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balbulus
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:30 pm 
 

Is there anything out there that combines the hypnotic repetition of Minimalism (specifically Philip Glass) with the instrumentation of Metal?

Philip Glass's music is one of my biggest loves outside of metal, especially his earlier, less orchestral output. The hypnotic repetitions and gradually developing patterns seem to fit perfectly with how my brain works, and I would love to find something that does the same thing in the metal world.

I guess there may be some vague parallels somewhere in the realms of prog-metal or maybe even djent, but I'm thinking of something quite stripped down and, well, minimal. The key thing for me is the hypnotic repetitive element, with little or no dynamics. Probably instrumental. Fuck, the more I think about it, the more I think I may have to create it myself.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:42 am 
 

Have you listened to Boris - Flood?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:59 am 
 

Gravetemplar wrote:
Have you listened to Boris - Flood?

Thank you, no, I hadn't. I've just checked it out, it's quite an interesting listen. I can see the Steve Reich influence on the first section with the phasing looped pattern, after that it gets more into fairly standard post-rock territory.

Thank you for the recommendation, it's a good album to know.

Basically I'm after something along the lines of these examples, but with distorted guitars. Long hypnotic passages of repeating/developing patterns, no dynamics (i.e. soft/loud) at all.

https://youtu.be/1huNePGHgeU
https://youtu.be/-kCWMrl9uEk
https://youtu.be/J2MO1LZLGV8
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:07 am 
 

I'm not sure something like that exists but check this stuff just in case:






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balbulus
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:59 am 
 

Gravetemplar wrote:
I'm not sure something like that exists but check this stuff just in case

I think you're probably right. But those recommendations are still great. I know Aluk Todolo, great stuff definitely. I had heard of Oranssi Pazuzu and Liturgy, but not bothered to check them out. That Oranssi Pazuzu track is fantastic, I'll definitely be delving further into their material. With Liturgy, I'll need to spend some time getting my head around what's going on there, definitely interesting.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:54 pm 
 

Maybe I'm just trying too hard but this sax kind of reminds me to some Wim Mertens compositions and Colin Stetson is known for his post-minimalism solo project.



In case you're not familiar with Colin Stetson you should check him out.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:53 pm 
 

Woah, you've pretty much nailed it with Ex Eye. I'm already a fan of Colin Stetson, I had no idea he had a band as well. Cheers man, your hard work has paid off!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:03 pm 
 

Just as an addendum, I remembered this Mugstar track that kind of nails the sound I have in my head; really basic rock instrumentation, just hammering out the repetition with little let-up. It doesn't evolve like Glass, but I could well imagine something along those lines that does.

https://youtu.be/hpccWLu4Eaw

Also, this Shellac song hints towards the idea as well, though more stripped down.

https://youtu.be/gPQIMA6H6F8
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:04 am 
 

balbulus wrote:
Just as an addendum, I remembered this Mugstar track that kind of nails the sound I have in my head; really basic rock instrumentation, just hammering out the repetition with little let-up. It doesn't evolve like Glass, but I could well imagine something along those lines that does.

https://youtu.be/hpccWLu4Eaw

Also, this Shellac song hints towards the idea as well, though more stripped down.

https://youtu.be/gPQIMA6H6F8

Those songs you posted remind me of other stuff that isn't metal related. I'm guessing you're already familiar with Glenn Branca and other noise rock bands such as Swans, Akauzazte, etc. Let me know if you're not.








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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:16 am 
 

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I'm guessing you're already familiar with Glenn Branca and other noise rock bands such as Swans, Akauzazte, etc.

Yeah, Swans have been one of my all-time favourite bands for over 20 years, probably my greatest live experiences. I flew from the UK to NY to catch one of those 3 final shows of their previous lineup.

I've always been aware of Glenn Branca, but never really got round to exploring his work, which is probably mistake #1. I think I just didn't know where to start, but that album sounds like the perfect place. Same with This Heat. I did see This Is Not This Heat at a festival a few years back, but they didn't click with me at the time.

Not heard of Akauzazte, that track sounds a bit dirgey for what I'm after here, but I'll investigate further.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:12 am 
 

balbulus wrote:
Gravetemplar wrote:
I'm guessing you're already familiar with Glenn Branca and other noise rock bands such as Swans, Akauzazte, etc.

Yeah, Swans have been one of my all-time favourite bands for over 20 years, probably my greatest live experiences. I flew from the UK to NY to catch one of those 3 final shows of their previous lineup.

I've always been aware of Glenn Branca, but never really got round to exploring his work, which is probably mistake #1. I think I just didn't know where to start, but that album sounds like the perfect place. Same with This Heat. I did see This Is Not This Heat at a festival a few years back, but they didn't click with me at the time.

Not heard of Akauzazte, that track sounds a bit dirgey for what I'm after here, but I'll investigate further.

Thanks again!

Yeah, this incarnation of Swans was great. I've watched them a few times (more than I'm proud to admit) and they always delivered.

Glenn Branca's The Ascension and This Heat's Deceit are great, two of my favourite albums of all time. I'd start with those.

Akauzazte have some wild stuff, they remind me of Swans but they are rawer and darker. I've seen them live once and it was incredible. Check Etzazuaka. https://akauzazte.bandcamp.com/track/anuki

Check this one out if you don't know them. All their stuff is free. They are my favourite band and I think you'll enjoy them. https://bidehuts.bandcamp.com/track/heg ... etenaldian

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