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Jimmy Calhoun
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:37 am 
 

Ever heard Acacia Strain? They might be vaguely along the lines of what you're looking for.
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LeMiserable
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:36 am 
 

Jimmy Calhoun wrote:
Ever heard Acacia Strain? They might be vaguely along the lines of what you're looking for.


Hey this band is cool, thanks man.

Any more, anyone?
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DeathcoreDecimator
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:59 am 
 

"Wiggercore" is my fucking specialty. The Acacia Strain is the cream of the crop, but if you're into that shit check out Dividing the Masses (more positive lyrics and Christian influence, but better than the good majority of bands in this style), Demolisher, Genocide District, Dweller, and even Xibalba. If you're looking for a bit more technicality check out The Red Chord, Despised Icon, Animosity, Ion Dissonance, Fit for an Autopsy, Molotov Solution, and Thy Art is Murder.

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Jimmy Calhoun
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:07 pm 
 

Sorry for this, but you mentioned Thy Art so I had to... :-D
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:48 am 
 

DeathcoreDecimator wrote:
"Wiggercore" is my fucking specialty. The Acacia Strain is the cream of the crop, but if you're into that shit check out Dividing the Masses (more positive lyrics and Christian influence, but better than the good majority of bands in this style), Demolisher, Genocide District, Dweller, and even Xibalba. If you're looking for a bit more technicality check out The Red Chord, Despised Icon, Animosity, Ion Dissonance, Fit for an Autopsy, Molotov Solution, and Thy Art is Murder.


Hmmm I hate to ask this, but what the heck is wiggercore? None of those bands make me think of wiggers, wiggercore sounds like it would be crappy stuff like attila and emmure.

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DeathcoreDecimator
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:26 am 
 

That cat's soul is definitely a tortured one.

But I don't really use the term wiggercore for many reasons. It is an ignorant title for a genre and wigger is an ignorant word to be using in the first place, hence why I put it in quotation. So given that I just used it interchangeably to mean very heavy deathcore with an emphasis on breakdowns or in some cases using breakdown as riffs.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:05 am 
 

DeathcoreDecimator wrote:
That cat's soul is definitely a tortured one.

But I don't really use the term wiggercore for many reasons. It is an ignorant title for a genre and wigger is an ignorant word to be using in the first place, hence why I put it in quotation. So given that I just used it interchangeably to mean very heavy deathcore with an emphasis on breakdowns or in some cases using breakdown as riffs.


Wasn't "wiggercore" more of an umbrella term for "br00tal meddle" people listen to? That does include a shitload of nu-metal and deathcore/metalcore bands.

OT: Any bands similar to Thy Art Is Murder's The Adversary?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:16 pm 
 

I'm not sure if it could be called "Wiggercore" but Shadow of the Colossus has a decent amount of heavy chugg riffing in their songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhvWjKvd3Uw
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lupin99
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:38 am 
 

I really dig Upon A Burning Body, I really like the mixture of groove and southern metal, i would like to find bands similar to them, does anybody have any good recomendations?

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DeathcoreDecimator
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:30 pm 
 

Deathcore is weird in that when you want to find X band that sounds like Y, it is close to impossible but all too possible. On one hand the deathcore bands that are impressive take the generic deathcore formula and do something special with it, while on the other most deathcore bands don't go further than that formula. So when I say check out Signal the Firing Squad's latest album for something similar to TAIM's The Adversary, take it with a grain of salt. They're Australian as well. Anything by Carnifex may be a better recommendation but they kind of suck.

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LeMiserable
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:32 pm 
 

Well, it takes patience and low expectations to find "good" deathcore outside of the standard recommendations. I'm listening to I Declare War's "Amidst The Bloodshed", which is basically the most mind-numbing ultra-brutal breakdowncore I have ever heard. It's incredibly dumb and doesn't make alot of sense but when you can accept that or have the patience for it it's very cool to listen to.

But really, "Nailed.Dead.Risen" is like Viraemia compared to this :)
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DeathcoreDecimator
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:52 pm 
 

Man you think Amidst the Bloodshed is incredibly dumb and mind numbing? You should listen to their latest album We Are Violent People by Nature. That album is knuckledragger music at its finest. It is also my favorite full length deathcore album of the year so far.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:57 pm 
 

Anyone knows some deathcore bands similar to Carnifex's debut? I mean that ridiculously heavy brutal deathcore sound with slam elements. (Not pure slam but some breakdowns sound like slams)
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Machine_Dead
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:50 am 
 

try All Shall Perish - Hate.Malice.Revenge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55UNcs-B2Y8


also try the belgian band Moker; they deliver a great mix of deathcore and death metal with very effective breakdowns (don't listen to this while driving! ;p ):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afAoDUBT0qE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzEtxuwaj7Q
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:54 pm 
 

No and No. If you wanna hear what I mean, listen to "Slit Wrist Savior" by Carnifex around 2:55 right before the breakdown, that's the kind of shit I want. Together with the deathcore, ofcourse.
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suleiman
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:16 am 
 

My first request in this thread :

I heard the new Architects album and to my surpirse, I enjoyed it a lot.
As normally this is quite outta my comfort zone / listening habits, I dont know where to really go from here.

All I know is that rthe Architects album would have sounded waaay more awesome for me if they had ditched the breakdown bits and generic melo-death / djenty bits.

So essentially that's my request : slick well produced melodic metalcore with impassioned vocals that avoids breakdowns and crappy melo-death/ djent bits completely. The vocals have to be impassioned and a bit of subtle atmosphere via key/pads would be cool.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:53 pm 
 

Maybe, -just maybe- you'll enjoy Being as An Ocean. They do have impassioned vocals a subtle atmospheres, but not really via keys/pads though. Anyway, I believe that you should give them a listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CkqhWIrMYM

In Hearts Wake (Maybe a bit too christians haha, hope you're fine with that) Again, very impassioned vocals with atmospheric music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUy9ytCkEjk
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suleiman
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:38 am 
 

IntoNevermore wrote:
Maybe, -just maybe- you'll enjoy Being as An Ocean. They do have impassioned vocals a subtle atmospheres, but not really via keys/pads though. Anyway, I believe that you should give them a listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CkqhWIrMYM

In Hearts Wake (Maybe a bit too christians haha, hope you're fine with that) Again, very impassioned vocals with atmospheric music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUy9ytCkEjk


Thank you for the recs. I will check them out at the earliest. Heres fingers crossed for no breakdowns or djent bits :)

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televiper11
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:06 am 
 

Has anyone picked up on what Candiria was doing in the mid-90's?

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tentacleterror
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:38 pm 
 

televiper11 wrote:
Has anyone picked up on what Candiria was doing in the mid-90's?

Yeah they did weird stuff!! Their "Deep in the Mental" 7" is one of my all time favorite 7inches, real schitzo


And haha damn, what people call metalcore today is not what it used to be. (back in the 90's)
I'm not really that into metalcore, but these are my favorites (the ones i still listen to from time to time, when i wanna get my SxE groove on xD)

Overcast (The old stuff, not that god awful Reborn crap. Members from this band ended up in Shadows Fall and Killswitch Engage)
Ascension (Christian band (i think) Their "The Years of Fire" 10" is real nice)
Omegaman (Florida band, i know nothing about them except they released a Self Titled CD in the 90's)
Cro-Mags (Old-school!!)
Integrity (More old-school)
Fall Silent (Heavy as fuck, highly recommended, especially their "Six Years in the Desert" Compilation CD (collection of older stuff))
Wisigoth (Canadian band, dont know much about these guys)
Unruh (fast and heavy, their "Setting Fire to Shinking Ships" album is a real beast)

And all those brutal tough-guy Sxe bands like Earth Crisis, Reprisal, Children of Gaia etc.

And finally Stabyouintheheadandeatyourfaceoff (now called Stab you in the Head)
That's the only non 90's band in this list, but god damn they are awesome.

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suleiman
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:09 pm 
 

IntoNevermore wrote:
Maybe, -just maybe- you'll enjoy Being as An Ocean. They do have impassioned vocals a subtle atmospheres, but not really via keys/pads though. Anyway, I believe that you should give them a listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v



Thats a fantastic band and that Dear G_d album was exactly what I was searching for. Any more recs like this ?

The Hearts Awake song sound nice but that album is pretty hard to find.

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Indecency
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:43 pm 
 

suleiman wrote:
IntoNevermore wrote:
Maybe, -just maybe- you'll enjoy Being as An Ocean. They do have impassioned vocals a subtle atmospheres, but not really via keys/pads though. Anyway, I believe that you should give them a listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v



Thats a fantastic band and that Dear G_d album was exactly what I was searching for. Any more recs like this ?

The Hearts Awake song sound nice but that album is pretty hard to find.


Isn't that album just super soft atmosphericore with spoken word over top, and they occasional typical post hardcore section with possibly pianos overtop?

If you like that, maybe try "A Day's Past"? They have no shortage of breakdowns though.

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Cookiemonster16
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:24 pm 
 

Could I get some recommendation for bands like, All Out War, Arkangel, Cold as Life, ACME, Catharsis, Lariat, Merauder, Gaza, Ironside and Acrid.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:15 am 
 

Has anyone listened to The Acacia Strain's new album Coma Witch? How do you think DL's replacements fared in terms of living up to his legacy? Personally I think this album is so much better than Death is the Only Mortal. The Observer is more pointless than Tactical Nuke off of Wormwood in my opinion, but it's still a great album.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:59 pm 
 

I heard a couple tracks off the new Acacia Strain, I'm really liking that guitar tone, but I really haven't listened to any of their previous stuff at all.

I guess the Holy Guile has a new album out, I'm really torn on this album. On one side there's the incredibly obnoxious white kid rapper aspect, and on the other is some really phenomenal riffing and some overall awesome vocals, but there's rapping, in the most offensive, "damn gurl" way. Maybe I just wanted a Crimson Armada pt.2 without the Christian undertones. I want to like this band but... there's a white kid rapping... and he's no RA the Rugged Man by far.
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LeMiserable
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:18 pm 
 

Anyone got some deathcore bands that operate on high speeds, but aren't necessarily technical?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:23 am 
 

I want to find some metalcore that I may like. Normally I listen to slow placed melancholic or atmospheric music. So is there any band that might fit the bill in some way
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:14 pm 
 

Not exactly a direct post to the one above. Just throwing this out there to the thread.

What Awaits Us
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Good album. Nice melodic parts coinciding with the riffs.
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OzzyApu wrote:
Not exactly a direct post to the one above. Just throwing this out there to the thread.

What Awakes Us
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Good album. Nice melodic parts coinciding with the riffs.


This is really good stuff. It sucks that they don't have a bandcamp up or anything. I can only find 2 full songs on youtube.

And for fast-paced deathcore that isn't technical, maybe Animosity (especially their last album) and Salt the Wound
Animosity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFf5jfVHDms

Salt the Wound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzfjXHmd6O8
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Just to dump more good -core stuff that's come out that I wasn't aware of until earlier today, Reaping Asmodeia's full length is pretty impressive, it's really fast and kinda proggy with some almost poppy melodies in between some really savage riffs and vocals.
http://reapingasmodeia.bandcamp.com
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georgeluvsthemetal777
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:52 am 
 

Yeah man Most metalheads like a handful of such bands. My fav metalcore bands are ZAO, As I Lay Dying, Trivium & Bullet For My Valentine (childhood favorite) Deathcore: Whitechapel, Carnifex, Suicide Silence, Black Dahlia Murder,Winds of Plague, Sea of Treachery, Fit For An Autopsy. However Carnifex and Fit For An Autopsy contain high quantities of death metal elements.

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Cookiemonster16 wrote:
Could I get some recommendation for bands like, All Out War, Arkangel, Cold as Life, ACME, Catharsis, Lariat, Merauder, Gaza, Ironside and Acrid.
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That's quite a broad spectrum, but I'd recommend Morning Again, Aftershock, early Bloodjinn, Prayer for Cleansing and Undying for the more metal influenced end of the spectrum (All Out War and Arkangel). As far as Cold As Life, I'd look for Bad Luck 13 Riot Extravaganza, Misura, Buried Alive and Shockwave. Hell most of the mid to late '90s Buffalo, Cleveland and Erie scenes should be up your alley.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:59 pm 
 

OneSizeFitzpatrick wrote:
I heard a couple tracks off the new Acacia Strain, I'm really liking that guitar tone, but I really haven't listened to any of their previous stuff at all.

I guess the Holy Guile has a new album out, I'm really torn on this album. On one side there's the incredibly obnoxious white kid rapper aspect, and on the other is some really phenomenal riffing and some overall awesome vocals, but there's rapping, in the most offensive, "damn gurl" way. Maybe I just wanted a Crimson Armada pt.2 without the Christian undertones. I want to like this band but... there's a white kid rapping... and he's no RA the Rugged Man by far.


Kinda late here but I felt like I had to chime in: The vocalist of The Crimson Armada and The Holy Guile is in no way white. It doesn't excuse his rapping but he's still not white.

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nestee8
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:40 pm 
 

There any deathcore bands out there that sound like old school metalcore bands like Integrity but use death metal riffs and vocals?

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Indecency
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:44 pm 
 

It sounds like you're asking for death metal with old school metalcore drums, just by the process of elimination.

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Cookiemonster16
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:12 pm 
 

nestee8 wrote:
There any deathcore bands out there that sound like old school metalcore bands like Integrity but use death metal riffs and vocals?

Starkweather sort of fit this description, try there first album.
Starkweather RYMhttps://rateyourmusic.com/artist/starkweather_f1
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Lonewolfen
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:21 am 
 

Hi! I listen to second wave metalcore, bands like killswitch engage, unearth, trivium! But i dont love third wave so shitty! Last times i felt in love with deathcore downtempo! Bands like BLACK TONGUE and TRAITORS!

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FuzzyxPickles
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:34 am 
 

if you arent listening to the new NO ZODIAC album then you're messing up! is almost straight up death metal now.

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TheCryptologist
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:21 pm 
 

For anyone interested in Blackened Deathcore, some bands I like and descriptions of them:

Carnifex - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1hafyakGXE (black metal riffs, sorrowful melodies, symphonic elements)

Ovid's Withering - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIDRyoCTV5E (black metal riffs, some shrieked vocals, metalcore/deathcore breakdowns)

Take Charge - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D69nK8GpQw (metalcore styled chugging, black metal melodies and solos, death metal drumming)

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:19 am 
 

ColeMiner wrote:
I want to find some metalcore that I may like. Normally I listen to slow placed melancholic or atmospheric music. So is there any band that might fit the bill in some way


I think you'll like Aegaeon. They play mix of metalcore/deathcore and downtempo ambient music. Their sound is very unique and interesting.

Here's a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgzR_g7b85A

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