I second Veil of Maya. You might wanna try We Are the Romans, they're quite proggy and technical. They're not on the Archives anymore though.

I don't listen to much Metalcore, but I have to say that I really enjoyed the clean vocals on An Ocean Between Us by As I Lay Dying. I was really rather pleasantly suprised by it. Unfortunately, the guy can't do nearly as well in concert as he did on the CD.

If anyone hasn't yet, I suggest deathcore fans take a listen to Molotov Solution. One of the few good deathcore acts out right now and are heavy as fuck.

They really know what they're doing and their newest release, The Harbinger, is a great debut album out on Metal Blade. I'd check out their debut self-titled as well.

I heard a song from this band about 2 months ago and I was blown away. Thanks for the recommendation (even though it wasn't specifically to me). You are correct, one of the only good Deathcore bands along with Whitechapel. I will definitely listen more in the future. Also if your interested in Whitechapel at all be sure to check out "This is Exile".

that band is such a good live show, and their music is just simple all out aggression one of my favorite deathcore bands. You all should check out Whisteria Cottage and Mortal Remains (though they are more brutal death).

Am I just crazy, or is Killswitch Engage's Alive or Just Breathing a fantastic album?

no your sane dude that album kicks ass, Jesse leach makes that album

Yeah, no kidding. If he had stayed with the band, they really could have gone places. Good places... Not the shitty hyper-accessible hell in which they currently reside.

Leach made the band seriously, he has some of the best pipes in core and puts most death metal vocalists to shame just by his sheer singing ability. Their newer stuff is uh ok i guess..As daylight dies was when they died at least according to me Howard is a good vocalist but he can never match Leach

Don't get me wrong; Back when I was first getting into metal, The End of Heartache was one of my favorite albums, but once I got into heavier stuff, and realized how much better AOJB was, I could never sit through it again. It's not a bad album, but the quality difference is just huge.

WHY ISNT THIS LOCKED, HELPING PEOPLE FIND MUSIC THAT SUCKS? BUT LETS NOT HAVE HARDCORE ON THE SITE?

I dunno I was about 16 when that album came out and I was listening to real metal at that time as well. I didn't hear Alive or just breathing until about a year later and even then The end of heartache is the type of nostalgic listen that I listen too once in a while. But yeah in terms of quality AOJB is better.

Molotov most def has a great influence from WC, which is why I imagine Metal Blade picked them up. They did a great job on expanding the sound WC reinvented last year.

And like you said, them and WC are two of the very small amount of good deathcore acts.
Come to think of it, the only band within the genre that is equal in quality as the two aforementioned that I can think of is All Shall Perish.

And This Is Exile, as an album, is a great release in itself.



Because some death metal fans accept that new age heavy shit has some quality? This is why I listen to only the decent, quality deathcore acts. There is a lot of nonsense within the genre. No doubt. But being close-minded to new age is just lacking swagger. Which...you seem to be classified, by yourself, with this post.

Don't get me wrong deathcore is a mut-genre, but there are some acts out there that should be entitled DEATHcore.

the red chord lol.

Alive or Just Breathing is a fantastic album for metalcore fans and melodic metal fans alike. Whatever they were doing on that album, they were doing it right. When Jesse left I had serious doubts, and tey were confirmed by the lacklustre follow up. Its ironic that a band's breakthrough album is the one that will put true fans off.

Nowadays they are worse than Britney Spears.

they play shit tech death at that.
listen to suffocation

Already know of them, lol.

Any more reccs? I'm heavily in the mood for technical deathcore right now.

Try The Plasmarifle. Really unique sound. It can be best described as a mix of Pantera, Beneath The Massacre, Meshuggah and Psyopus.

Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but A Different Breed of Killer - I Colossus is a pretty solid deathcore album, and I typically don't like core bands.

never really got into them man..you should check out Through the eyes of the dead though.

I dunno where else to post this, but I'm looking for some of those metallica hardcore (the chugga chugga, breakdown laden style) like Sworn Enemy's first album and most of Hatebreed's stuff. I'm pretty new to the style, so yeah. What Agnostic Front album should I try first, by the way?

I like deathcore myself, things like:

Thy Art Is Murder - "Infinite Death EP"
Through The Eyes Of The Dead - everything except "Malice".
Burning The Masses
The Red Shore
Veil Of Maya - mainly "All Things Set Aside"
Molotov Solution - "Molotov Solution", "The Harbinger"
Oceano


I highly recommend Thy Art Is Murder and Molotov Solution if you're looking for, or exploring deathcore.
Oceano has many breakdowns, and one of their influences are Molotov Solution.
The Red Shore and Thy Art Is Murder are both from Australia

if you like Through The Eyes Of The Dead and Beneath The Massacre, I recommend Burning The Masses,

These bands are not breakdown-heavy, but they fit under metallic hardcore. Check out Trapped Under Ice's Secrets of the World, Samsara by Catharsis, Ringworm's Venemous Grand Design, and Integrity's Humanity Is The Devil. Trapped Under Ice is probably the closest thing to your request.

Random rec...Been listening to the band "Culling the Weak" alot lately. Highly recommended, especially for fans of All Shall Perish and the like.

I do like the A Different Breed Of Killer album, and I was able to listen to it a few times, but it sounds generic, and gets repetitive. It's better than some deathcore, but I don't think I would purchase "I, Colossus"

edit:
I recommend Rose Funeral's "Crucify. Kill. Rot." it came out in 2006, and was re-released in 2007. This album has made one of the biggest influences on me, shaping what I've listened to. The replay value is very high, as I still listen to it today.
I have the 2007 re-release on Candlelight,
if you have a copy of the 2006 originial self-release, and is willing to sell, contact me

Here Comes the Kraken is good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGRChJECyMU

The Boy Will Drown
Thy Art Is Murder

I think both are amazing. Thy Art Is Murder leaning more towards deathcore than The Boy Will Drown.

Animosity.

I'm looking for Metalcore (Deathcore ) with superior clean vocals, that actually have 'passion' in them. Also, with minimal breakdowns. One band that I can think of that best describes the 'style' is Howard era-KsE, especially their latest album. Thanks in advance...

My most recent Deathcore interests have been..

Glass Casket
Molotov Solution
The Plasmarifle

I definitely suggest them to anyone looking for some refreshing deathcore- seeing as its hard to find.

Metalcore with doom. Can it be done?

No.

Very deep, informative, and overall thought-provoking post, WebOfPiss.

It's quite obvious why they cannot merge together. Not even considering ideology, attitude, and aesthetic (all integral parts of the music [and in this case those of doom metal are the exact inverse of metalcore]), the compositional techniques are totally opposed to one another. Breakdowns could never be placed into doom metal. Also the riffing style doesn't accommodate it and even if you were to awkwardly add it into the music, it would no longer be doom metal. When you say "doom metal", I assume you mean traditional doom metal.


If you mean some faggy band like Ahab, then sure I guess you might be able to merge them together, but thats a totally different argument.

Hopefully you don't need to me to actually go into the compositional theory behind both genres to grasp this utterly simplistic concept.

Armed For Apocalypse

..however its more sludgey doom then anything. They are a very interesting band.

You should check out The Sorrow. They have some very nice clean vocals.

Will definitely check the 3 out. I never liked deathcore before, but I quite enjoy it now, and considering that you have a great taste in deathcore I'll check those bands out for sure.

Anyway, my request. I'm looking for a different kind of metalcore. Imagine the basic sound of Cro-Mags first album brought into the 21st century with a modern melodic metalcore twist. Any bands out there? Bonus points if the band's music makes me wants to punch random idiots in the face.

All three bands have their flaws but are definitely awesome. Molotov Solution is probbably the weaker of the 3. They are similar to Whitechapel but a bit more melodic at times. The Plasmarifle are a very sparatic band that does alot of weird shit. Often switching from yelling to growling vocals. Glass Casket is fucking awesome. They have some very original sounding riffs. You may hate all 3, like 1 or 2, whatever. I find them interesting and I hope you do too.

Dooods, Prayer for cleansing? how could you forget this one?
Deadwater Drowning,
Whisteria Cottage
Premonitions of War
Martyr A.D.
Old Norma Jean, bless the martyr kiss the child
Converge
Old Everytime I Die


early 2000's metalcore is fucking awesome, especially early 00's deathcore (deadwater drowning, prayer for cleansing, undying) before all these bands starting forming and ruining it, its not that it sucks its just every guitar riff and breakdown has been done a million times.

lol how old was that post? I saw Illogicist live with KtK and Maruta. They made me want to leave. I was listening to Suffocation when I was 16, which, sadly, was 18 years ago. Why on earth should I listen to them now? It's not like they've improved...