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funeralravens wrote:
Cool, lots of new bands to check out. I listened to Sulphuric Night's album and it's pretty good, even though I still think Bekhira is better.

Sick6Six wrote:
Thanks for reminding me that Bekhira existed, I'm listening to the full album right now and it's so fucking good. A few things off the top of my head that may be somewhat similar, but probably not all as good.

Thank you for your suggestions and yes, Bekhira is a great black metal band that should be better known. If you like them, you might enjoy Winter Funeral. They played together in Dark Sanctuary.

You may enjoy Nidernes.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:58 pm 
 

Damballah wrote:
Any japanese keyboard Black Metal Bands? Not stating symphonic because i don't want to listen classic or an orchestra... Just good old second wave keyboard. Most japanese stuff i've heard is way to dilettante and raw..the few good bands i know from japan are thrash/black.


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sonic_enemy_333
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:41 am 
 

Can somebody recommend more like

Dodecahedron
Kriegsmaschine
Mgla

etc.

Stuff that has off tempo drumming.
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sonic_enemy_333 wrote:
off tempo drumming.

That term makes me think of very early Solstafir like the Til Valhallar (sp?) EP.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:23 am 
 

sonic_enemy_333 wrote:
Can somebody recommend more like

Dodecahedron
Kriegsmaschine
Mgla

etc.

Stuff that has off tempo drumming.


off tempo is not the word i would use, those drummers are tight as hell :lol: maybe you meant odd?

if you are not familiar with them start with Ved Buens Ende's Written in Waters, the you could try Lugubrum's experimental albums that feature Svein's really odd, creative drumming: De vette cuecken, Heilige dwazen and De ware hond are super weird and really interesting


also while they are not strictly black metal Virus feature Einar Sjursø's great drumming, this track (and album) inspired me a lot to improve as drummer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUF4DnOq_0Q

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:54 pm 
 

Yes thanks for the correction I meant odd and creative drumming.
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So I understood it right and my recommendation stands in case you haven't heard that EP.
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Hey folks. I'm looking for lo-fi black metal of a certain heroic/melancholic sound. The combination of the two vibes, heroic and melancholic, is really what I'm after.

Best examples I can think of are Sapthuran's "...In Hatred" (which was rec'd to me here many years ago when I asked for lo-fi heroic bm), Drowning the Light (I especially like "Catacombs of Blood"), also perhaps early Satanic Warmaster ("Strength and Honour"). I know all of those are somewhat different, but each captures something of the heroic/melancholic sound that I'm craving. Mütiilation sometimes comes close, but what I'm looking for might be a tad (but just a tad!) more melodic.

It's not full-on triumphant/epic brooding melancholy like Sargeist, it's more austere and rough around the edges than that. And it's not really something that is captured well with synths of any kind, either.

I've looked into most of the "similar artists" for those bands, but since I'm looking for more of a feeling than a distinct style, it didn't quite have what I was looking for. I know it's a bit subjective, but hopefully someone has something for me? Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:33 am 
 

BeholdtheNicktopus wrote:
lo-fi black metal of a certain heroic/melancholic sound

Did you check The Black Twilight Circle bands? Some of them are probably what you need.

Shataan "War Cry Lament" has 100% lo-fi, heroic and melancholic sound, as for me.

Some other works has about the same features, but a bit different, by my perception. Rhinocervs on the early demos has something like this, I'd say, maybe just with melancholy being less pronounced. Volahn on "Aq'Ab'Al" is raw, triumphant and melodic, but not exactly melancholic, as for me. Tukaaria is raw and epic, but for me it's not particularly melancholic, it's rather tragic.

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BeholdtheNicktopus wrote:
Hey folks. I'm looking for lo-fi black metal of a certain heroic/melancholic sound. The combination of the two vibes, heroic and melancholic, is really what I'm after.


I can think of Macabre Omen, triumphant sound with depressive style screaming.
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BeholdtheNicktopus wrote:
Hey folks. I'm looking for lo-fi black metal of a certain heroic/melancholic sound. The combination of the two vibes, heroic and melancholic, is really what I'm after.

Best examples I can think of are Sapthuran's "...In Hatred" (which was rec'd to me here many years ago when I asked for lo-fi heroic bm), Drowning the Light (I especially like "Catacombs of Blood"), also perhaps early Satanic Warmaster ("Strength and Honour"). I know all of those are somewhat different, but each captures something of the heroic/melancholic sound that I'm craving. Mütiilation sometimes comes close, but what I'm looking for might be a tad (but just a tad!) more melodic.

It's not full-on triumphant/epic brooding melancholy like Sargeist, it's more austere and rough around the edges than that. And it's not really something that is captured well with synths of any kind, either.

I've looked into most of the "similar artists" for those bands, but since I'm looking for more of a feeling than a distinct style, it didn't quite have what I was looking for. I know it's a bit subjective, but hopefully someone has something for me? Thanks in advance!

The most heroic album that comes to mind is https://deathfortress.bandcamp.com/track/wrath-of-god but I don't think that's what you're looking for. Maybe this Nidernes album I recommended a few messages above? It has a few pretty melancholic songs but in a heroic way. Check the 4th track:



Mystras too:



Forteresse?


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Damballah
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:11 pm 
 

I'm looking for neoclassical black metal, does anyone have some recommends? I would mostly prefer something with the influence of Castlevania soundtrack music, Mozart, Shostakovich, Bach, Beethoven, Organ or Harpsichord as instrument.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:55 pm 
 

Damballah wrote:
I'm looking for neoclassical black metal, does anyone have some recommends? I would mostly prefer something with the influence of Castlevania soundtrack music, Mozart, Shostakovich, Bach, Beethoven, Organ or Harpsichord as instrument.

I'm guessing you're already familiar with Pensees nocturnes but just in case...

https://penseesnocturnes.bandcamp.com/album/vacuum

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:56 pm 
 

Gravetemplar wrote:
Damballah wrote:
I'm looking for neoclassical black metal, does anyone have some recommends? I would mostly prefer something with the influence of Castlevania soundtrack music, Mozart, Shostakovich, Bach, Beethoven, Organ or Harpsichord as instrument.

I'm guessing you're already familiar with Pensees nocturnes but just in case...

https://penseesnocturnes.bandcamp.com/album/vacuum


Yeah, i'am not sure thats what i'am looking for.. They seem to use more accordion or whatever that weird instrument is called they use in france. I'am looking for more Baroque stuff i think hmm
But thanks for the Recommend anyway ^^

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:12 am 
 

Thanks, folks! Most of these tended more epic than I expected but that's not a bad thing at all. I'm not totally sure "heroic" was the right word for me to use, but I still got some very good recommendations that scratch the same itch. In fact, maybe my itch is tending more epic after hearing these.

@HviteGuden: I know some of those bands, in particular I enjoy Volahn, Aq'ab'al is a great album, but not quite the right atmosphere as you note. Tukaaria is closer, I listened to "Raw to the Rapine" and found it really excellent in general. You are right about it being more tragic than melancholic, but it's still a great rec.

@Dr_Fiemost: Macabre Omen was incredible, a bit on the epic side but I really liked it. Great recommendation. Instant purchase.

@Gravetemplar: I knew Death Fortress, but I didn't know they had a new (well, new to me! 2018) album out, and man it is a really good one. So that's a happy rec even if not exactly the aim of my current search. And I know Mystras already, I hadn't thought of them in this connection but I've been listening to that album almost nonstop since it came out! But Forteresse was extremely good, a little on the melodic side but definitely captures the vibe. Nidernes likewise was really good, grim and epic and raw.

Always happy for more from anyone, but this is great and I've already grabbed a few of these! Thanks again!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:28 am 
 

Damballah considering how famous they are I figure you already know early Sigh, but just in case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPWTTr4PH7M
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:14 am 
 

droneriot wrote:
Damballah considering how famous they are I figure you already know early Sigh, but just in case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPWTTr4PH7M


Yeah early Sigh stuff is good...sadly their first two album are so short :(

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Even though it's a recommendation thread I am in hindsight kinda glad you're familiar with them because I just realised what a crummy example I picked for the request, that one only has the two brief harpsichord moments.

Buuut, speaking of stuff that isn't neoclassical 100% of the time, that promo Varathron did after their second album, when it's in black metal mode it's regular Hellenic BM style, but it gets really classical-influenced during the synth/violin solo sections:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHvHIgs6ZIY
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:15 am 
 

droneriot wrote:
Even though it's a recommendation thread I am in hindsight kinda glad you're familiar with them because I just realised what a crummy example I picked for the request, that one only has the two brief harpsichord moments.

Buuut, speaking of stuff that isn't neoclassical 100% of the time, that promo Varathron did after their second album, when it's in black metal mode it's regular Hellenic BM style, but it gets really classical-influenced during the synth/violin solo sections:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHvHIgs6ZIY


Actually the "In Somniphobia" Album by Sigh comes close to what i'am looking for. The songs are composed like classical Baroque music at times. It's just a little too happy-sounding and too close to power/thrash metal for my taste.

And yeah i love Varathron...<3 That keyboard play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2yFmzdzefk

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It's honestly kinda hard to know more obscure bands in that style because it requires a lot of talent to pull it off (Profanum from Poland is a good example of how it ends up when that talent isn't there, just annoying keyboard noodling) and said talent usually comes with more or less widespread recognition as a by-product.

The notable exception of course is when the musical talent is there but the band also plasters swastikas on their front covers.
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Damballah wrote:
I'm looking for neoclassical black metal, does anyone have some recommends? I would mostly prefer something with the influence of Castlevania soundtrack music, Mozart, Shostakovich, Bach, Beethoven, Organ or Harpsichord as instrument.


Are you familiar with Tartaros? his ep and full lenght are all about creating an "haunted castle" atmosphere. It's a bit on the cheesy side, but it reminds me of Castelvania for sure

i'll link a track, it gets very Castelvania from halfway point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDstVLFVhE8


Another one that could work is I Shalt Become. their music is very focused on string arrangements and the guitars are pushed in the background. I'll link two songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WncU2iT8f0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvBwuLbgOUc

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 pm 
 

Can somebody recommend more like

Aaskereia Aaskereia - Dort, wo das alte Böse ruht

Trelldom - Til Et Annet

Ty.

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Actually your request seems to fit quite well with that of BeholdtheNicktopus and also those two bands might be good recommendations for him.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:04 pm 
 

Damballah wrote:
I'm looking for neoclassical black metal, does anyone have some recommends? I would mostly prefer something with the influence of Castlevania soundtrack music, Mozart, Shostakovich, Bach, Beethoven, Organ or Harpsichord as instrument.

Nazgûl - De Expugnatione Elfmuth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR9v-GROdf0
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LunarisCZE wrote:
Damballah wrote:
I'm looking for neoclassical black metal, does anyone have some recommends? I would mostly prefer something with the influence of Castlevania soundtrack music, Mozart, Shostakovich, Bach, Beethoven, Organ or Harpsichord as instrument.

Nazgûl - De Expugnatione Elfmuth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR9v-GROdf0
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The music is pretty good but the singers voice is abysmal...nevermind..there aren't that many voice parts anyway

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sonic_enemy_333 wrote:
odd and creative drumming.

I think Thromos has some of the best drumming I've ever heard in a true second wave black metal sound. The style and "attitude" of the drummer is infectious and fun as fuck. I suggest checking out song 1 and 5 from this album at least, but you really can't go wrong with anything from their last like 5 albums.

https://schattenkultproduktionen.bandcamp.com/album/thromos-ger-taucht-ein-in-finsternis

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Hi,

I have an odd request. Looking for black metal that has a jangly type of guitar tone in parts, sort of like an indie band playing black metal. Sloppy and lilting riffs. REM black metal as it were.

My best reference for this is all music by Forgotten Woods, and maybe Graveland (I know) - Thousand swords.

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Maybe LIK? They're pretty heavy on the non-black metal stuff, but might be worth your while.

https://youtu.be/y9HIzDP2D08

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Grav maybe. Black metal with a very weird and cool choice of guitar sound and overall production.

https://svartrit.bandcamp.com/album/omh ... -kretslopp

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YesIam wrote:
Grav maybe. Black metal with a very weird and cool choice of guitar sound and overall production.

https://svartrit.bandcamp.com/album/omh ... -kretslopp


yes! totally the sort of guitar sound im going for!

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FromMysticStreet wrote:
Hi,

I have an odd request. Looking for black metal that has a jangly type of guitar tone in parts, sort of like an indie band playing black metal. Sloppy and lilting riffs. REM black metal as it were.

My best reference for this is all music by Forgotten Woods, and maybe Graveland (I know) - Thousand swords.

Woodtemple is worship of that era of Graveland, so that may work for you. Countess has that slopping lilting vibe you speak of on several albums, though best demonstrated on the "Shining Swords of Hate" album. That album is also a very slow burn though and might not give you that rock feeling. Njiqahdda's "Nji. Njiijn. Njiiijn." is murky and feels very indie to me. Has some of that rich, lustrous minimalism you get from a song like "Losing My Religion" as well as that ambivalent feeling. On that wavelength you might also like Velvet Cacoon's "P aa opal Poere Pr. 33f". I know these recs are a bit scattershot. :P

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BeholdtheNicktopus wrote:
Hey folks. I'm looking for lo-fi black metal of a certain heroic/melancholic sound. The combination of the two vibes, heroic and melancholic, is really what I'm after.

Best examples I can think of are Sapthuran's "...In Hatred" (which was rec'd to me here many years ago when I asked for lo-fi heroic bm), Drowning the Light (I especially like "Catacombs of Blood"), also perhaps early Satanic Warmaster ("Strength and Honour"). I know all of those are somewhat different, but each captures something of the heroic/melancholic sound that I'm craving. Mütiilation sometimes comes close, but what I'm looking for might be a tad (but just a tad!) more melodic.

It's not full-on triumphant/epic brooding melancholy like Sargeist, it's more austere and rough around the edges than that. And it's not really something that is captured well with synths of any kind, either.

I've looked into most of the "similar artists" for those bands, but since I'm looking for more of a feeling than a distinct style, it didn't quite have what I was looking for. I know it's a bit subjective, but hopefully someone has something for me? Thanks in advance!



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FromMysticStreet wrote:
Hi,

I have an odd request. Looking for black metal that has a jangly type of guitar tone in parts, sort of like an indie band playing black metal. Sloppy and lilting riffs. REM black metal as it were.

My best reference for this is all music by Forgotten Woods, and maybe Graveland (I know) - Thousand swords.

Not that odd. I’ve sought after something very similar. Grav was the first thing that came to mind. Glad it was mentioned. I love “Projektioner af Död” - that album is my go to when I am craving clean/minimally distorted guitars in black metal. You may also dig this album from Svarti Loghin
https://svartiloghin.bandcamp.com/album/empty-world

cdedsml wrote:
Njiqahdda's "Nji. Njiijn. Njiiijn." is murky and feels very indie to me. Has some of that rich, lustrous minimalism you get from a song like "Losing My Religion" as well as that ambivalent feeling.

Hell yes. Njiqahdda is awesome. They have some songs I would consider much more “jangaly”

https://eeerecordings.bandcamp.com/trac ... n-the-hive
https://eeerecordings.bandcamp.com/track/infertel
https://eeerecordings.bandcamp.com/trac ... rtului-nji
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:10 am 
 

Might sound like an odd request but...black thrash with a production like rawish ambient black (ie say Black Cilice, as opposed to the crust/Hellhammer type production that is sometimes seen in this genre).

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I'm looking for bands with a concept, costumes etc like Mephorash, Cult of Fire and Batushka

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Hellllloooo. Lalalaaa. Looking for some Doomy BM.. "Sign of an Open Eye" by Gorgoroth and "Watchers of My Black Temple" by Behexen are good examples of the kind of sound I'm searching for. Oh, and I'm very familiar with The Ruins of Beverast. Thanks.

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MetalCheese wrote:
Looking for some Doomy BM.. "Sign of an Open Eye" by Gorgoroth and "Watchers of My Black Temple" by Behexen are good examples of the kind of sound I'm searching for. Oh, and I'm very familiar with The Ruins of Beverast. Thanks.

Try the likes of Skitliv, Grief (Swe), Alkymist (Can), Sa Meute, Xantotol, Ophthalamia, Nephilim’s Howl.

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MetalCheese wrote:
Hellllloooo. Lalalaaa. Looking for some Doomy BM.. "Sign of an Open Eye" by Gorgoroth and "Watchers of My Black Temple" by Behexen are good examples of the kind of sound I'm searching for. Oh, and I'm very familiar with The Ruins of Beverast. Thanks.


Try early Barathrum.
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MetalCheese wrote:
Hellllloooo. Lalalaaa. Looking for some Doomy BM.. "Sign of an Open Eye" by Gorgoroth and "Watchers of My Black Temple" by Behexen are good examples of the kind of sound I'm searching for. Oh, and I'm very familiar with The Ruins of Beverast. Thanks.


Forgotten Tomb's first three albums are great works of this genre, i'll suggest them all. If you are not familiar with them you can try songs like Disheartment, Subway Apathy and House of Nostalgia to see if they are what are you looking for

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A few months old album from Atmospheric- post black metal band Zorya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnzoJs1wPYld

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