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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:49 am 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
Antioch wrote:
Sometimes I wonder whether they honestly don't know what the band plays or they deliberately list genres that sell to boost their chances. :/

Yeah, that Cybernetic Errosion was listed as Industrial/Heavy Metal on Discogs. Turned out that the album was some soft electronic industrial with some sort of wave music. Didn't even have guitars...



I only wanted to point out, that I have found samples and info for another three bands, towo of them are clearly not metal: Mung(hardcore) and no souls In Manchester (nnu-metal/goth´c. The band jade, about which Antioch asked, is described as hard rock everywhere and I have also found two samples of it. I have also sorted out all the obvious bands with typos from the Neseblod's list and confirmed, the the band Scurvs is the same band as the Swedish Scurvy.

I only write it down, bbecause it apparently got buried in the huge number of my updates. Also, PagAlso, if you would be so kind and add the Japanese band Maria' Solfege to the list of bands needing research, I would be really thankful, since it got sort of overlooked too. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:28 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
I only wanted to point out, that I have found samples and info for another three bands, towo of them are clearly not metal: Mung(hardcore) and no souls In Manchester (nnu-metal/goth´c. The band jade, about which Antioch asked, is described as hard rock everywhere and I have also found two samples of it. I have also sorted out all the obvious bands with typos from the Neseblod's list and confirmed, the the band Scurvs is the same band as the Swedish Scurvy.

I only write it down, bbecause it apparently got buried in the huge number of my updates. Also, PagAlso, if you would be so kind and add the Japanese band Maria' Solfege to the list of bands needing research, I would be really thankful, since it got sort of overlooked too. Thanks.

We know that, it didn't get buried, and we really appreciate your work in the thread. It was a busy week for me, but I'll get through that pile of new posts and attach them to the appropriate post and also look into them. Planning on doing that today, can't promise that though as I have some real life stuff to work on.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:31 am 
 

I like this Jade shit actually, thanks Witcher. Listening to those two songs, I think the music is why they didn't get submitted back then when the note was written.
Actually Sacrifice sounds like a Heavy Metal band, not really heavy/power metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHAnHSMOxbg

EDIT: Pag, thumbs up for the work you've done here, mate.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:49 am 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
Witcher wrote:
I only wanted to point out, that I have found samples and info for another three bands, towo of them are clearly not metal: Mung(hardcore) and no souls In Manchester (nnu-metal/goth´c. The band jade, about which Antioch asked, is described as hard rock everywhere and I have also found two samples of it. I have also sorted out all the obvious bands with typos from the Neseblod's list and confirmed, the the band Scurvs is the same band as the Swedish Scurvy.

I only write it down, bbecause it apparently got buried in the huge number of my updates. Also, PagAlso, if you would be so kind and add the Japanese band Maria' Solfege to the list of bands needing research, I would be really thankful, since it got sort of overlooked too. Thanks.

We know that, it didn't get buried, and we really appreciate your work in the thread. It was a busy week for me, but I'll get through that pile of new posts and attach them to the appropriate post and also look into them. Planning on doing that today, can't promise that though as I have some real life stuff to work on.


No problem, take your time, I only wanted to ensure myself, that the info got noticed by the mods.

Edit: Forgot to add this one from Neseblod's list: Wynter is most probably the American Doom/death metal band Winter with their rare limited demo cassette: https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/W ... inter/7830

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:50 am 
 

Jade sounds like Hard Rock to me, but having the full album might not hurt, just in case, so I'm keeping it for now ;)

Mung sounds like hardcore, could be metal enough, hard to tell from the live samples, but at least we have something.
Found a mirror of their homepage, seems like they have a rather big discography:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130818054 ... .webs.com/
Their Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MUNGwpg/
ReverbNation: https://www.reverbnation.com/mung1
Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/artist/2767213-Mung-6
I went through their discography on ReverbNation -> all punk/Hardcore with some thrash and groove songs here and there.

Scurvs - seems that way, deleted.

Thelmno - Chelmno confirmed. They even appear as Chelmno on the Neseblod homepage and the info fits.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:14 am 
 

Lords Of The Grief = Lords ov The Grief. Tracklist fits, album title fits, lineup fits. band is pelled "ov" on the j-card, but "of" on the tape itself. Removed from the list.

Avadon = Abadon, might be true, there's one Abadon with a 1996 demo
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/A ... rno/263749

Akeron = Acheron. No. It's spelled Akeron on the image of the j-card on the neseblod site. Sadly.

Tstragramaton = Tetragrammaton. Don't think so. release years don't match, but might be another mistake on neseblod's end. Better keep it.

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USSR: I think those are actually 2 bands judging from a comment under the "Live Near Death" video.
One USSR was that punk band from UK and one was a solid thrash metal band from the US, one of the members was Tony Trujillo
https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... llo/492949
and one member now plays in Trial by Combat: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Tr ... 3540370012
According to the comment USSR is short for United Scumbags of Santa Rosa.

Going to contact that band.
->confirmed that, gonna ask them for more info.

No Souls In Manchester - Agreed. What a weird mixture.

Regarding The Motown - Was added by our fellow BuriedUnborn to Discogs, owned by none. Still unknown if it was officially released or anything.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:14 pm 
 

Thanks a lot for the update.

You forgot Winter/Wynter, but it has time.
I found an last.fm page of I Ruinerna Av Mig Själv, it has only a minimal info, but as you have said, it is better than nothing: https://www.last.fm/music/I+Ruinerna+av+Mig+Sj%C3%A4lv
Here are some demo titles for the bands from Naseblod's list:
Excubitor thou art-promo tape orginal.pris:100 nok/16.99 dollar
Wedan-Suddenly one day..orginal demo tape 1990.RARE.BID/BUD
Mortorigis-The darkened palace orginal reh nr24/50 copys.a gift to maniac/signed to maniac.BID/BUD
Almost funeral-Nearly funeral orginal demo tape number 5.NORGE.BUD/BID
Face the reality-Don`t belive the hype orginal demo tape 1996.pris:150 nok/24.99 dollar
Stealer of souls-s/t.orginal demo tape old.NR 23.NORGE.BUD/BID
Evil kebab-Hjernepine orginal demo tape 1990.NORGE.BUD/BID
Burn by tears-A path thr..orginal tape 1998.pris:150 nok/24.99 dollar
Tstragramaton-orginal demo tape 1993 BUD/BID
R.A.S.-Sackrotte orginal demo tape 1987 GERMANY BUD/BID
Wyver/Mortifer 2 in on orginal demo 1995 SWEDEN BUD/BID
Winter night overturn-1995-1996 2 in one RARE BUD/BID
Allegro rubato/Nightside kingdom-2 in one MEGA RARE NORGE BUD/BID
Notes: Wyver/Mortifer is apparently a split album, I wonder, if the band's name is really Wyver or Wyvern?
Allegro Rubato /Nightside Kingdom is a split album of two bands.
Winter Night Overture releae apparently contains two demos.
I left the price tags as they were, because trying to remove would mean another hour of work...
I have also noticed, by whom the Motowns album was added, that would mean, that the owner of Swoss Melodic Rock is ready to communicate and share some info. Good news, since he owns also the albums by Edison and Jade.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:33 pm 
 

Needs research. - Unlogic (Germany, Thrash Metal/Hardcore?)
- The Context (1994, EP)
1. From the Past ...
2. Rivers
3. Unscrupulous
4. Esper

https://www.discogs.com/Unlogic-The-Con ... e/10927295 Samples needed.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:45 pm 
 

In reference to the Nesblod list update from the last page, we can make a few more changes to it. I attempted to purchase a few of the cheaper releases on that list back in 2016, and had him come back to tell me he either 1) no longer had or 2) couldn't find the following:

    -Arktogaa
    -Excubitor
    -Psalm=1
    -Stanka
    -Wynter

Truthfully, it did take nearly 5 months of regularly emailing/Facebooking him to get any sort of update before I finally gave up on him, so I can't confirm if they are actually no longer available, or if he was just too lazy to look for them.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:16 am 
 

Burnt At The Stake was also recently blacklisted, so they can be removed from the list, too.
https://www.metal-archives.com/band/add

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:28 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Burnt At The Stake was also recently blacklisted, so they can be removed from the list, too.
https://www.metal-archives.com/band/add

Huh? Thought I removed them already... Seems like I only updated the post with a shiny "Not metal."
Fixed.
Also seems like I need to add the related comments to the original Neseblod post (and update the post, while I'm at it...)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:07 am 
 

Added. - Usurpator
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(Austria, Black/Doom Metal?)
- Beheading Pathos (2018, demo-tape)
1. Transfigured Cabbalist
2. Hollowheart
3. King Pathos

https://www.musik-sammler.de/media/1367097/ Samples needed, I couldn't find anything about this anywhere else online. The notes say it's limited to 100 copies.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:59 pm 
 

Needs research. Estigma (Argentina, Symphonic Heavy/Power Metal)

From Basavilbaso/Gualeguay/Victoria, Entre Ríos, active during the 2000s.

Members:
- Facundo Ponce (Bass)
- Claudio Abrahäm
- Darío Ramos (Guitars)
- Daniela Noville (Keyboards)
- Danilo Muñiz (Vocals)

Released a CD in an unknown date, at least that's what Abraham told me some weeks ago, he told me he was going to search for it but I still have nothing, as he's too busy with stuff and I don't want to bother him.

Arcangel de la destrucción & La oscuridad
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:36 am 
 

Regarding Usurpator: The band was recently submitted and currently awaits approval. The submission has a link to their Bandcamp page: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Us ... 3540446548

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:38 pm 
 

Soo. Divine Clarity answered me. According to the band, the demo was only released as a stream on Soundcloud and all downloads from torrent sites as well as a youtube stream were never officially sanctioned. They are however currently recording their debut album, so they might end up on the site anyway once it's released.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:51 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Needs research. - Spellbound (Swden),
heavy metal from Jönköping.
Not to be confused with the well-known heavy metal Band Spellbound from Uppsala, which was signed to Sonet Records.
Release: Heavy Metal Maniacs, demo, 1983.
Proofs, that the demo was released physically and more info about it are needed. Samples and the official Youtube of their former bassist Hakan Fransson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5MyV8UvLUo
https://www.youtube.com/user/66TGE/vide ... shelf_id=1

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Trying to contact Hakan Fransson, there are some chances he might answer and I can get a photo of the cassette.

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Spellbound: Hakan Fransson didn't answer any of my messages in Facebook so I guess he just doesn't use it anymore or doesn't want to share any info, or something like that. Probably someone else could give it a try.

Restored, this is fine.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:50 pm 
 

Thanks a lot, Azmodes. On a related note, the band Dizzy (Swe), which was posted in this thread by you and also another user, iis also listed at FWOSHM with their demo. Janne Stark apparently owns the tape and there are scans of the cassete itself. His version has apparently nocover and he asks , if somebody knows, if the demo was released with a cover or not. My Question: Would this info be enough to get the band accepted or is the missing cover a major problem?

Source: http://www.fwoshm.com/index/D/1124-dizzy-swe/1664-demo

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:50 am 
 

Added. Inhuman Humor
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- (Portland, Oregon, USA; Black Metal)Side project of Bizarre Culprit of the CW Production scene/record label. Featured on a split with Cirrhus here. This distro blurb says that Inhuman Humor "still retains the same melodic style and disposition as other CW bands," so I think it's safe to assume it's metal, but I've been searching for samples and can't find any. The tape is still available from that distro for $6 if anybody wants to buy it.

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Witcher wrote:
Thanks a lot, Azmodes. On a related note, the band Dizzy (Swe), which was posted in this thread by you and also another user, iis also listed at FWOSHM with their demo. Janne Stark apparently owns the tape and there are scans of the cassete itself. His version has apparently nocover and he asks , if somebody knows, if the demo was released with a cover or not. My Question: Would this info be enough to get the band accepted or is the missing cover a major problem?

Source: http://www.fwoshm.com/index/D/1124-dizzy-swe/1664-demo

I'd really like to have a bit more information about the tape first. Where he got it from, for starters.

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Inhuman Humor (Portland, Oregon, USA; Black Metal)

Side project of Bizarre Culprit of the CW Production scene/record label. Featured on a split with Cirrhus here. This distro blurb says that Inhuman Humor "still retains the same melodic style and disposition as other CW bands," so I think it's safe to assume it's metal, but I've been searching for samples and can't find any. The tape is still available from that distro for $6 if anybody wants to buy it.

Bought it.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:29 pm 
 

Regarding Wyver: I can say with high probability bordering on certainty, that the band is in fact the Swedish band Wyvern. The most important fact- their origianl guitarist Jonas Berndt has also played in Mortifer, other Wyvern band members have also played in black metal bands and Wyvern have some rare demos rleased before their demo album. The 2 in one remark does not always mean a split album, but it can be a double demo package made by the Neseblod owner or the source he got it from. See here: https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... rgon/35976
The name Wyver looks like an obvios typo and I could not find any info about a band of such name. The expression has also nno meaning in any language known to me. The Neseblod entry also makes it clrar, that both "Wyver" and Mortifer are Swedish bands.

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Needs research. - Reflections of Ruin
Random band search:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/On ... ment/43402
It says the band released a demo prior to the name change. The note was added by Az upon deleting said demo from the discography, and "Reflections of Ruin" isn't blacklisted. Samples and proof of release may be needed here.

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Antioch wrote:
Needs research. - Reflections of Ruin
Random band search:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/On ... ment/43402
It says the band released a demo prior to the name change. The note was added by Az upon deleting said demo from the discography, and "Reflections of Ruin" isn't blacklisted. Samples and proof of release may be needed here.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:28 pm 
 

Regarding Wyver....probably yes, seems to be a very likely thing. Removing them.

Also was able to add Alliance to the database.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:43 pm 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
Also was able to add Alliance to the database.

George Bellace is the same guy as the one in Oktober. He played bass in both bands.
I asked the guy when Lord_Sauron asked about the band:
https://www.bellacephoto.com/about.html
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Antioch wrote:
PaganiusI wrote:
Also was able to add Alliance to the database.

George Bellace is the same guy as the one in Oktober. He played bass in both bands.
I asked the guy when Lord_Sauron asked about the band:
https://www.bellacephoto.com/about.html
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Fixed...but...aren't you as a metal knight able to merge artists yourself? :-P
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:07 am 
 

Didn't want it to look like a random merge, Paggie. ;)
I usually file a report "for reference only" and close it, but I thought - seeing how you'd been managing this thread - that the info belonged here more than anywhere else.
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Witcher wrote:
Needs research. - Maria' Solfege
Country: Japan
Genre: Symphonic Black/Gothic metal

The band has released one song on the Punishment Party Vol. 5 compilation, which was released on Cd in 2002.
Since most of the bands on this compilation have released at least some physical demos or singles, an info on whether Maria solfege has also some physical rleases outside of that compilation, iinfo about such releases, if they exist, their exact tracklisting and also song samples would be greatly appreciated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTJrmS0sMKA
https://www.discogs.com/artist/2898815-MariA-Solfege


All right, this is my area of expertise.
According to this https://www22.big.or.jp/~yunisan/vi/mariasolfege.html site which usually is fairly useful, Maria' Solfege released one live-distributed video tape in 30 copies. That is obscure enough for there to not exist any references online, and so that piece of information is nearly useless.

It is plausible that the band released a demo tape, as many bands did at the time, especially in order to land deals for compilations and stuff; I would even go so far to say that it is implausible that they didn't. The problem is that I still can't find a good reference to any.

If further samples are required to add this band, I think that adding this band would be impossible for now.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:40 pm 
 

Laurence02 wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Needs research. - Maria' Solfege
Country: Japan
Genre: Symphonic Black/Gothic metal

The band has released one song on the Punishment Party Vol. 5 compilation, which was released on Cd in 2002.
Since most of the bands on this compilation have released at least some physical demos or singles, an info on whether Maria solfege has also some physical rleases outside of that compilation, iinfo about such releases, if they exist, their exact tracklisting and also song samples would be greatly appreciated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTJrmS0sMKA
https://www.discogs.com/artist/2898815-MariA-Solfege


All right, this is my area of expertise.
According to this https://www22.big.or.jp/~yunisan/vi/mariasolfege.html site which usually is fairly useful, Maria' Solfege released one live-distributed video tape in 30 copies. That is obscure enough for there to not exist any references online, and so that piece of information is nearly useless.

It is plausible that the band released a demo tape, as many bands did at the time, especially in order to land deals for compilations and stuff; I would even go so far to say that it is implausible that they didn't. The problem is that I still can't find a good reference to any.

If further samples are required to add this band, I think that adding this band would be impossible for now.


TThanks for the iinfo. I wanted you to know, that I appreciate every bit of additional info provided for "my" bands here, even if they still do not lead directly to the acceptance of saidband. Your info is still useful, since we now know, that the band had at least one physical release and a possible demo release. I have waited for some months for aan expert on Japanese/visual kei band to show up in this thread and I am glad , that finally someone like that has appeared. TThere are namely more Japanese bands, which were originally submitted by me, but rejected for lack of info, in this thread. Since you know some useful pages in Japanese, I would be very glad, if you could help me with following bands:
viewtopic.php?p=2793211#p2793211 Ckroll
Kitsunebi, Gideon Knights, Glace, Eve, Jéz, Eroticism, Hot Coke, Idare and Teen Sprits. All of these bands have reportedly released at least a demo or a (physical) single:
viewtopic.php?p=2782960#p2782960

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:36 pm 
 

Regarding Excalibur(Hol): The whole -demo 1987 was recently uploaded to Youtube. It has four songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXHQvXiyUFI

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