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Azmodes
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Location: Gradec, Austria
PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:56 pm 
 

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No cat food and a toe knife out the window?! I mean, what am I doin'? Puttin' on airs because I got company?

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Krister Jensen
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Joined: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:48 am
Posts: 149
Location: Russia
PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:09 am 
 

This album needs to be nuked. Derigin accidentally missed it dealing with my report.

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Snow Listener
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Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:13 am
Posts: 159
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:11 pm 
 

This single should be nuked. When I submitted the band a year ago, they were just about to release the full-length album, and they wanted to promote it on bandcamp, so they uploaded one track. (They had more tracks on a few official Chinese websites at that time.) The bandcamp single was added by another user immediately after the band got accepted. The point is, the single was just for promo online, it's not intended to be a standalone release. Some time later, the band uploaded another track, also from the full-length. Since it wasn't a well-known band, the second "single" got overlooked.

This is not just for one single. The point is, promotional individual tracks from a full-length posted anywhere should not be counted as standalone releases. According to site Rules -> Valid albums only -> complete albums only, "Likewise, we DO NOT consider unfinished/unreleased recordings, samplers or label-only promotional albums to be valid in any context."

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Azmodes
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Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:44 am
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:23 pm 
 

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No cat food and a toe knife out the window?! I mean, what am I doin'? Puttin' on airs because I got company?

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Midnight Rider
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Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:07 pm
Posts: 245
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:16 pm 
 

Let's discuss about Tricky Beans/Tricky Means and -hopefully- find a permanent solution for this dilemma.

"In 1996 Sonata Arctica was formed in the northern Finland city Kemi. Their first name was Tricky Beans. After some line-up changes in 1997, they changed their name to Tricky Means. In 1999 the band recorded the new demo “Full Moon” in the Tico Tico Studios in Kemi. (...) This new demo was the first survey for the band in heavy metal waters. Meanwhile Tricky Means changed the name to Sonata Arctica." (source: https://www.facebook.com/sonataarctica/about/)

That's a coincidence with the info available at Wikipedia (https://goo.gl/fFYqXM):

1996-1997 as Tricky Beans, playing Hard Rock (releasing three demos: "Friend 'til the End", "Agre Pamppers" and "PeaceMaker")
1997-1999 as Tricky Means, playing Metal (releasing the "FullMoon" demo)

A third, unnoficial source also shares the same information and includes the cover artwork of most demos: http://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/vie ... 49&t=11917

My suggestion:
• Correct the years to: 1996-1997 (as Tricky Beans), 1997-1999, 1999-present (as Sonata Arctica)
• Nuke the demos and keep "Fullmoon" only.
• Leave the additional notes as they are.
• Let's make a reminder for newbies: Do not add Tricky Beans demos.

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BlackFlag
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Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:30 pm
Posts: 198
PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:53 am 
 

Less that 5 copies were made of these:
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/B ... ies/432996
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/B ... Demo/82904
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/D ... ches/42955

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TheGrimWombat
Metalhead

Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:06 am
Posts: 1488
PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:46 am 
 

BlackFlag wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Death_SS/The_Horned_God_of_the_Witches/42955



This one appears to have been re-released on vinyl, according to the additional notes.
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BlackFlag
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Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:30 pm
Posts: 198
PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:03 am 
 

TheGrimWombat wrote:
This one appears to have been re-released on vinyl, according to the additional notes.


I think that's a 2012 reissue of their 2004 compilation:
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/D ... ches/47971

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Antioch
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Joined: Sun May 01, 2011 4:08 am
Posts: 1252
Location: Netherlands
PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:07 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ha ... iscography

I believe the bottom two releases should be removed or at least listed as splits. There's a distinction between Halford/Rob Halford, the band, and Rob Halford, the artist. Both the compilation and the boxed set feature material from Halford, Fight, and Two, and it makes no sense to have the material listed under Halford. The releases are meant to highlight the artist's career, not sell Fight's material as Halford's.

How are those releases any different from live albums where Rob sings, say, a Priest or a Fight song? Every which way. Whatever Rob performs live with Halford is a cover and it does belong on the band's page; however, material played by Fight doesn't belong on Halford's page.
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