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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:48 pm 
 

Hard/Prog Rock. - The Greed
Spoiler: show
Listed genre: Heavy Metal, Thrash
Location: Germany
Band members: Rainer Teske (guitars), Jens Steutermann, Daniel Hüsing, Maximilian Sper (?)
Discography: "Therapy" demo tape (1993, 100 copies made)
Discogs link: https://www.discogs.com/The-Greed-Thera ... e/16720992

(Thanks for the DeVol links, Witcher.)

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oneyoudontknow wrote:
https://gloeckner-kloeckner.de.tl/Jason.htm
Quote:
Er bekam durch Rainer Teske die Chance, anfang der 90ger Jahre bei der georgsmarienhütter Hardrockband The Greed einzusteigen.

Hier war ein wesentlich groovenderes und akzentuirteres Spiel gefragt, welches zum damaligen Zeitpunkt genau seinen Vorstellungen entsprach. Über die Jahre entwickelte er sich bei The Greed zu einem der tonangebenden Mitglieder in punkto Songwriting und musikalische Ausrichtung. Somit entwickelte sich die Band in der Zeit seiner Zugehörigkeit weg von eingängigen Hardrockriffs wie sie zu dieser Zeit von Poison, Ratt oder Warrant zu hören waren, hin zu progerssiveren, experimentelleren Klängen. Des Weiteren übernahm Jason bei einigen Songs den Job des Leadsängers, welches dank seiner vielschichtigen Stimmlage dem Gesamtsound der Band einen zusätzlichen Schub in Richtung Progressiv Rock gab.

That does not sound very metal to me.

Witcher wrote:
Regarding The Greed: It seems, theat Underground Empire fanzine has a review of the album In Greed We Trust by the same band The Greed. Unfortunately i cannot seem to open it:
https://underground-empire.com/review.php?idx=11245

oneyoudontknow wrote:
utterly pointless reviews:

https://underground-empire.com/review.php?idx=10163
Quote:
Gerade mal 19 Jahre ist diese Band alt, und die Musiker haben ein Durchschnittsalter von stattlichen eineinhalb Jahren. Also eine Band, die noch ganz am Anfang steht, die ihr ganzes Leben noch vor sich hat. Bedenkt man diesen Umstand, so ist die auf vorliegendem Tape gebotene Leistung schon sehr beachtlich. Es passieren zwar noch so ein paar Kleinigkeiten, die alte Hasen mit traumhafter Sicherheit links liegen lassen, aber dafür gibt's ja noch die Zeit, die Entwicklungsprozesse ermöglicht. Da ist beispielsweise das Arrangement nicht immer ganz schlüssig, der ein oder andere Songs wird in die Länge gezogen, wo ihm ein kompaktes Kleid besser gestanden hat, etc. Sei's drum - in zwei Jahren wird man sich über solche Sachen keine Gedanken machen müssen, und ich glaube kaum, daß man sich im Lager von THE GREED der Illusion hingibt, vom Himmel gefallene Musikgötter zu sein. Trotzdem sind die 30 Minuten des Demos von THE GREED alles andere als schlecht - gute Ideen, interessante Ansätze und angenehme Songs, denen aber der letzte minimale, aber im Endergebnis lebenswichtige Schliff noch fehlt. Wenn bei der Band der Wille zur Weiterentwicklung ohne Rücksicht auf die damit verbundenen Mühen vorhanden ist, blicke ich für THE GREED optimistisch in die Zukunft!


The band is nineteen years old, while the musicians have an average age of 1.5 years.
Yeah, nothing better than professional reviewing.

https://underground-empire.com/review.php?idx=11245
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Im letzten UNDERGROUND EMPIRE hatte ich THE GREED aufgrund des vorhandenen Potentials die Möglichkeit einer enormen Steigerung zugetraut, wenn sie denn nur kräftig an sich arbeiten würden. Dies scheint absolut der Fall gewesen zu sein, denn das neue »In Greed We Trust«-Demo, welches mich ganz kurz vor Redaktionsschluß erreichte, eröffnet gleich mal mit einem fabelhaften Song namens ›Holy War‹, der einfach mitreißend ohne Ende ist und zudem auch textlich was hermacht, und zu der Problematik des religiösen Fanatismus Stellung bezieht. Diesem Song könnte man bedenkenlos umgehend Vinylgrundlage zukommen lassen. Allerdings möchte ich mich nun in keine Euphorie hineinsteigern, denn ›Holy War‹ ist eindeutig der beste Song des neuen THE GREED-Demos. Die vier folgenden Stücke gefallen mir auch gut, aber können das Niveau des Openers nicht bebehalten. Davon ist besonders ›Good Old Germany‹ zu erwähnen, der musikalisch den Qualitäten des Openers am nächsten kommt und textlich das Thema "Gehirnamputation 3. Grades" aufgreift, nämlich das Thema des in letzter Zeit zunehmenden Rechtsradikalismus in diesem unserem Lande, obgleich wir vor gerade mal 50 Jahren diese Perversionen schon bis zum Exzeß durchgespielt hatten, aber trotzdem nichts daraus gelernt haben. Es gibt also auch keyboardorientierten Hard Rock, der nicht nur von Begattungsszenen und deren Vorbereitung erzählt. Aus diesem Grunde drücke ich THE GREED sämtliche Daumen, denn ich finde es grundsätzlich begrüßenswert, wenn eine Band sich gegen eingefahrene Schemen stellt. Da man sich - wie bereits beschrieben - musikalisch auf dem Weg nach oben befindet bin ich auch ziemlich optimistisch, daß die Jungs mal gut einen losmachen können.

KingSpooky wrote:
Thanks, Witcher. I took a look at them and it seems they referred a lot to the quality of the music and didn't talk much about the actual style that they play. Underground Empire is a great resource in general, though. They've brought out tons of obscure information about older bands and are very accurate in their facts.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:41 pm 
 

Regarding Sentinela: I found the Facebook page of their vocalistFereirra jr. His brother A. Filho played apparently also guitar in Sentinela. He lists Stryper vocalist Michael Sweet among hïnspiratios on Facebook, sot it must be surely him. Please, since I don't have Facebook, could someone (at best Paganiusi :smile: :wink: ) contact him anand ask about the physical release of the Seu Destino album on Cd? Thanks.
https://www.facebook.com/JoaoFerreiraFilhoJasffl


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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:26 am 
 

KingSpooky wrote:
Needs research. - The Greed
Listed genre: Heavy Metal, Thrash
Location: Germany
Band members: Rainer Teske (guitars), Jens Steutermann, Daniel Hüsing, Maximilian Sper (?)
Discography: "Therapy" demo tape (1993, 100 copies made)
Discogs link: https://www.discogs.com/The-Greed-Thera ... e/16720992

(Thanks for the DeVol links, Witcher.)

https://gloeckner-kloeckner.de.tl/Jason.htm
Quote:
Er bekam durch Rainer Teske die Chance, anfang der 90ger Jahre bei der georgsmarienhütter Hardrockband The Greed einzusteigen.

Hier war ein wesentlich groovenderes und akzentuirteres Spiel gefragt, welches zum damaligen Zeitpunkt genau seinen Vorstellungen entsprach. Über die Jahre entwickelte er sich bei The Greed zu einem der tonangebenden Mitglieder in punkto Songwriting und musikalische Ausrichtung. Somit entwickelte sich die Band in der Zeit seiner Zugehörigkeit weg von eingängigen Hardrockriffs wie sie zu dieser Zeit von Poison, Ratt oder Warrant zu hören waren, hin zu progerssiveren, experimentelleren Klängen. Des Weiteren übernahm Jason bei einigen Songs den Job des Leadsängers, welches dank seiner vielschichtigen Stimmlage dem Gesamtsound der Band einen zusätzlichen Schub in Richtung Progressiv Rock gab.

That does not sound very metal to me.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:50 am 
 

Regarding The Greed: It seems, theat Underground Empire fanzine has a review of the album In Greed We Trust by the same band The Greed. Unfortunately i cannot seem to open it:
https://underground-empire.com/review.php?idx=11245

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:16 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Regarding The Greed: It seems, theat Underground Empire fanzine has a review of the album In Greed We Trust by the same band The Greed. Unfortunately i cannot seem to open it:
https://underground-empire.com/review.php?idx=11245

utterly pointless reviews:

https://underground-empire.com/review.php?idx=10163
Spoiler: show
Gerade mal 19 Jahre ist diese Band alt, und die Musiker haben ein Durchschnittsalter von stattlichen eineinhalb Jahren. Also eine Band, die noch ganz am Anfang steht, die ihr ganzes Leben noch vor sich hat. Bedenkt man diesen Umstand, so ist die auf vorliegendem Tape gebotene Leistung schon sehr beachtlich. Es passieren zwar noch so ein paar Kleinigkeiten, die alte Hasen mit traumhafter Sicherheit links liegen lassen, aber dafür gibt's ja noch die Zeit, die Entwicklungsprozesse ermöglicht. Da ist beispielsweise das Arrangement nicht immer ganz schlüssig, der ein oder andere Songs wird in die Länge gezogen, wo ihm ein kompaktes Kleid besser gestanden hat, etc. Sei's drum - in zwei Jahren wird man sich über solche Sachen keine Gedanken machen müssen, und ich glaube kaum, daß man sich im Lager von THE GREED der Illusion hingibt, vom Himmel gefallene Musikgötter zu sein. Trotzdem sind die 30 Minuten des Demos von THE GREED alles andere als schlecht - gute Ideen, interessante Ansätze und angenehme Songs, denen aber der letzte minimale, aber im Endergebnis lebenswichtige Schliff noch fehlt. Wenn bei der Band der Wille zur Weiterentwicklung ohne Rücksicht auf die damit verbundenen Mühen vorhanden ist, blicke ich für THE GREED optimistisch in die Zukunft!

The band is nineteen years old, while the musicians have an average age of 1.5 years.
Yeah, nothing better than professional reviewing.

https://underground-empire.com/review.php?idx=11245
Spoiler: show
Im letzten UNDERGROUND EMPIRE hatte ich THE GREED aufgrund des vorhandenen Potentials die Möglichkeit einer enormen Steigerung zugetraut, wenn sie denn nur kräftig an sich arbeiten würden. Dies scheint absolut der Fall gewesen zu sein, denn das neue »In Greed We Trust«-Demo, welches mich ganz kurz vor Redaktionsschluß erreichte, eröffnet gleich mal mit einem fabelhaften Song namens ›Holy War‹, der einfach mitreißend ohne Ende ist und zudem auch textlich was hermacht, und zu der Problematik des religiösen Fanatismus Stellung bezieht. Diesem Song könnte man bedenkenlos umgehend Vinylgrundlage zukommen lassen. Allerdings möchte ich mich nun in keine Euphorie hineinsteigern, denn ›Holy War‹ ist eindeutig der beste Song des neuen THE GREED-Demos. Die vier folgenden Stücke gefallen mir auch gut, aber können das Niveau des Openers nicht bebehalten. Davon ist besonders ›Good Old Germany‹ zu erwähnen, der musikalisch den Qualitäten des Openers am nächsten kommt und textlich das Thema "Gehirnamputation 3. Grades" aufgreift, nämlich das Thema des in letzter Zeit zunehmenden Rechtsradikalismus in diesem unserem Lande, obgleich wir vor gerade mal 50 Jahren diese Perversionen schon bis zum Exzeß durchgespielt hatten, aber trotzdem nichts daraus gelernt haben. Es gibt also auch keyboardorientierten Hard Rock, der nicht nur von Begattungsszenen und deren Vorbereitung erzählt. Aus diesem Grunde drücke ich THE GREED sämtliche Daumen, denn ich finde es grundsätzlich begrüßenswert, wenn eine Band sich gegen eingefahrene Schemen stellt. Da man sich - wie bereits beschrieben - musikalisch auf dem Weg nach oben befindet bin ich auch ziemlich optimistisch, daß die Jungs mal gut einen losmachen können.
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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:23 am 
 

Thanks, Witcher. I took a look at them and it seems they referred a lot to the quality of the music and didn't talk much about the actual style that they play. Underground Empire is a great resource in general, though. They've brought out tons of obscure information about older bands and are very accurate in their facts.

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:27 am 
 

Added. - Ensamble
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Genre: Thrash Metal
Location: Eugene, Oregon, USA
Band members: Rob Cook (guitars), Tom Ebling (guitars), Dave Ryker (vocals), John Jackson (bass), Mike Stein (drums).
Discography: Demo 1993 (referenced in Rusted Metal book)
- In doing a web search, I came across the description of a video that was once uploaded to YouTube, in 2008, with 3-4 minutes of live footage. Unfortunately the video has been taken down at some point.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:33 am 
 

Added. - Eratic Pace
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Genre: Thrash/Speed Metal
Location: Bremerton, Washington, USA
Band members: Todd Newton (lead vocals, guitars), Kempton Baker (guitars), Kyle Mausbach (bass), Robert Wall (drums)
Discography: "Living Fast" demo 1989 (6 songs; mentioned in Rusted Metal book. Engineered by Rich Hinklin)
Played shows with Apocrypha and Jagged Dagger (both on Metal Archives). Split up in 1990.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:10 am 
 

Needs research. - French Kiss
Genre: Heavy Metal
Location: Portland, Oregon, USA
Activity period: 1985-1987
Band members: Steve Benito (vocals - https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... nito/13213), Ronn Chick (guitars - https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Ronn_Chick/1249), Bernard Rambow (bass)
Discography: Demo 1986 (recorded at Triad Studios in Redmond, Washington) - mentioned in Rusted Metal book.
The band broke up in 1987 when Benito left to join Heir Apparent (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/He ... ab_members)

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Witcher wrote:
Regarding French Kiss: Contact info for Ronn Chick:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronn-l-chick-3942418a


- (Spooky) When looking at an old 'zine, this band was mentioned as playing commercial or mainstream stuff, so they likely weren't metal the way Heir Apparent is, the band that Benito went to next.

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:24 am 
 

Added. - Gangland
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Genre: Heavy Metal
Location: Bellevue, Washington, USA
Activity period: 1990-1992
Band members: Rich Tresner (vocals, bass, keyboards - https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... 80786), John Trytek (guitars, ex-Sentinel), Todd Stoltz (drums, ex-Ray Gunn)
Discography: Demo 1991 (cassette, recorded at Tandem Audio in Redmond, Washington by Rod Young; mentioned in Rusted Metal book)

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Regarding Gangland: Fandalism page of guitarist John Trytek.
https://fandalism.com/6strngr
He also seems to play in Stargazer, a Mother Love Bone tribute band:
https://business.facebook.com/pg/starga ... e_internal

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:31 pm 
 

Regarding Gangland: Fandalism page of guitarist John Trytek.
https://fandalism.com/6strngr
He also seems to play in Stargazer, a Mother Love Bone tribute band:
https://business.facebook.com/pg/starga ... e_internal

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:57 pm 
 

Regarding French Kiss: Contact info for Ronn Chick:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronn-l-chick-3942418a

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:15 pm 
 

Added. - Michael Shine
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Listed genre: Heavy Metal
Location: Melville, New York, USA
Band members: Michael Shine (vocals?)
Known discography: Promotional tape (year unknown, probably '80s)
Discogs link: https://www.discogs.com/Michael-Shine-P ... e/16729110

(thanks for more information, Witcher.)
- March 8: Came across a review on their demo in Metal Forces magazine #18

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:30 pm 
 

Needs research. - Hard Colors
Genre: Heavy Metal/Hard Rock
Location: Portland, Oregon, USA
Band members: Steve Pershing (guitars, vocals - https://ms-my.facebook.com/Steve-Pershi ... 143125155/ - now playing in Flat Black Tomato), Art Osbourne (guitars), Matthew Thom (lead vocals), Joe Southern (drums - later in Flat Black Tomato), John Howard (bass '86-'89), Brian Bailey (bass '89 on, was later in Splintered Throne)
Discography: Self-titled demo tape (1988, recorded at Frankenstein's Lab Studios in Corvallis, Oregon - info in Rusted Metal book)
- They played shows with Metal Archives-listed bands Cruella, Coven 6669, Teachers Pett. In 1993 they changed the name to Common Ground. Not sure if they were still playing metal or hard rock by that point)

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Regarding Hard colours: Facebook page of Steve Pershing:
https://www.facebook.com/46951314312515 ... 434326710/

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:01 pm 
 

Regarding Hard colours: Facebook page of Steve Pershing:
https://www.facebook.com/46951314312515 ... 434326710/

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:10 am 
 

Added. - Iron Kross
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Location: Seattle, Washington
Listed genre: Heavy Metal
Activity period: 1985-1988
Band members: Dennis Campbell (guitars - later played in Typhoid Mary), Jeff Allen (drums), Bill Giest (bass), Gillian (vocals). Vocals on a couple of songs by Paul Crisman, late vocalist of Rottweiller (https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Paul_Crisman/185212)
Discography: Demo tape (year unknown) - mentioned in Rusted Metal book.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:48 pm 
 

Needs research. - Mor Amore
Listed genre: Heavy Metal
Location: Seattle, Washington
Formed in: 1986
Band members: Scotty Lamont (vocals), Mark Thunder (guitars), Greg "Bam Bam" Smith (drums), Dan Bellman (keyboards), Phil Bushman (bass)
Discography: 4-song demo (1986), full-length demo (1988) - reference in Rusted Metal book
- Played shows with Cyperus, Hammer Head, Kil d'Kor, Lethal Dose (all listed on Metal Archives)

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Regarding Mor Amore: I found some live clips from a band called Mor Amor on youtube, they band plays eighties hard rock with keyboards. Could it be the same band?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpFAul ... uL5cRHJwYw

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I doubt that it's the same Mor Amore. The guitarist is the only one that looks old enough that he could have been an original member. The uploader is 3 hours away from where the band was based out of. I guess it's possible that the guitarist could have used the original name and found all new members to play bar rock/pop, though. Thanks for the links.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:28 pm 
 

Added. - Otovoid
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Listed genre: Progressive Metal
Location: Portland, Oregon
Formed in: 1988
Band members: Jason Ewing (vocals/guitars), Jason Fellman (drums), Eric Lawrence (keyboards), Ryan Moore (guitar - later in the band Sweaty Nipples), Bob Kapka (guitars, ex-Gargoyle - https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... 81639), Jason Simpson (bass), Shane Hout (bass), Kenny Lee Ricker (? - was also in Island of Kings, Victory Gin, Into the Jungle, Static, Synapse, Orange)
Discography: Demo (late '80s, exact year unknown; 5 songs)
- Played shows with Dead Conspiracy, Laden Saint, Prowler, Island of Kings, etc.
- Facebook page of Jason Ewing, where this band looks to be a theme: https://www.facebook.com/jason.ewing.14
- Facebook page of Kenny Lee Ricker where they're mentioned: https://www.facebook.com/blaise.trinity.9

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Regarding Otovoid: Facebook page of Jasn Ewing, he even dedicates his entire profile to his old band:
https://www.facebook.com/jason.ewing.14

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:16 pm 
 

Regarding Otovoid: Facebook page of Jasn Ewing, he even dedicates his entire profile to his old band:
https://www.facebook.com/jason.ewing.14

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:04 pm 
 

Regarding Mor Amore: I found some live clips from a band called Mor Amor on youtube, they band plays eighties hard rock with keyboards. Could it be the same band?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpFAul ... uL5cRHJwYw

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:57 am 
 

Regarding Savoir Fair: I have found a page of Mark Larue Todd, a bassist from Portlan, Oregon, at Fandalism. He played in ddiverse rock bands during the eighties and although I am not entirely sure, it could be also a member of Savoir Faire:
https://fandalism.com/laruetodd

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:37 am 
 

I doubt that it's the same Mor Amore. The guitarist is the only one that looks old enough that he could have been an original member. The uploader is 3 hours away from where the band was based out of. I guess it's possible that the guitarist could have used the original name and found all new members to play bar rock/pop, though. Thanks for the links.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:47 pm 
 

Needs research. - Triathlon
Location: Seattle, Washington, USA
Listed genre: Heavy Metal
Activity period: 1985-1987 (as De Oppresso Liber), 1987-1992 (as Triathlon)
Band members: Vogard Kane (bass, ex-Thor (early '80s), nowadays in a band called Dog Leg Preacher - https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... Kane/22060), Darrell Vernon (guitars, vocals - also played in The Blast, Brat, Shipwreck, Agent, most recently in a band called Simply Shameless), Frankie Rongo (drums early, guitars later; was in Thor, Nightshade, Q5 (live) https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... ongo/22067)
Discography: Demo 1987 (cassette) - referenced in Rusted Metal book

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Regarding Triathlon:
Official homepage of Frankie Rongo:
http://www.frankierongo.com/about-frank ... o/drummer/
Facebook page of Darrell Vernon:
https://www.facebook.com/darrell.vernon
Interisting bit of info about Triathlon in the alice In Cahins biographic book:
https://books.google.cz/books?id=kUonBg ... on&f=false

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:53 pm 
 

(Joecubbie): Regarding Cason, the Arizona, US band that released the "Space and Time" cassette in 1994, they also have a follow-up CD, "Technical Overdrive" (1996). 2 of the songs can be heard here:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... +overdrive
CD on Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/Cason-Technical ... e/12817619

This band became Night Stalker, which then evolved into Exiled:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Exiled/4950

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:59 pm 
 

From Neseblod's list, is there a second band called Waricide? This New York band is on the site already.
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/W% ... cide/30443

From the main list, Lazy Wizzard is on the site, unless there is another one by the same name:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/La ... ard/106305

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:05 pm 
 

(Witcher): Regarding Bethlehem Steele (US): Yes, the band that did the 1985 demo is the same one that did the Metal Meltdown compilation track. There's a bio on them in the Rusted Metal book. Active 1985-1988, from Mountlake Terrace, Washington. Chris Rasmussen (vocals), Jim McGee (guitars), Paul Ellis (guitars), Steve Ray Enyeart (guitars), Ric Smoots (drums). Their 1985 demo was recorded at Triangle Studios in early 1985. Split up in late '88.
https://pig-records.bandcamp.com/track/man-enough

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:35 pm 
 

(MetalCuresHeadaches): Regarding Hand Over Fist (Virginia, US):
Stream of a full album from them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scX1DAz ... e=emb_logo
Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/artist/5482198-Hand-Over-Fist-2
2 of their tapes have also been on eBay for the last several weeks:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hand-Over-Fist ... Swbe1fjdJi

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hand-Over-Fist ... Swo4pfjdSV

It seems like I remember them being on a compilation tape as well, but can't find the info on that at the moment.


(I emailed to let him know that they can be submitted)

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:58 pm 
 

(Azmodes): Steel Assassin (California): In April of last year Stormspell Records announced that they had found out who was in the band, posted their logo, and said that they were from Lake Tahoe, California. On a post that came after it on the same page, someone who was apparently a band member (Johnny Tantrum) chimes in. Stormspell said that more info would be available eventually, and that they'll probably be able to negotiate an official release with this information becoming available, but the pandemic has been slowing things down:
https://www.facebook.com/Stormspell.Rec ... =3&theater

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:49 pm 
 

KingSpooky wrote:
(Witcher): Regarding Bethlehem Steele (US): Yes, the band that did the 1985 demo is the same one that did the Metal Meltdown compilation track. There's a bio on them in the Rusted Metal book. Active 1985-1988, from Mountlake Terrace, Washington. Chris Rasmussen (vocals), Jim McGee (guitars), Paul Ellis (guitars), Steve Ray Enyeart (guitars), Ric Smoots (drums). Their 1985 demo was recorded at Triangle Studios in early 1985. Split up in late '88.


That's great, many thanks. I have already submitted the band, since I found the metal Meltdown compilation with their song as a sample at Heavy metal Rarities forum.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:38 pm 
 

Regarding Elly: The band can now be removed from the list, since it has been added to the database:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Elly/3540480102

Removed (-KingSpooky)

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:05 pm 
 

Regarding Triathlon:
Official homepage of Frankie Rongo:
http://www.frankierongo.com/about-frank ... o/drummer/
Facebook page of Darrell Vernon:
https://www.facebook.com/darrell.vernon
Interisting bit of info about Triathlon in the alice In Cahins biographic book:
https://books.google.cz/books?id=kUonBg ... on&f=false

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:36 am 
 

Needs research. - Wisdom
Location: Bergamo, Lombardy, Italy
Genre: Heavy Metal/Hard Rock (supposedly)
Band members: Unknown
Discography: "No Exit" demo (1989), "Vampires and Pigs" demo (1994; songs on side A are "Sorrow" / "Vampires and Pigs" / "Use Your Love")
Photo of tape on eBay: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Wisdom-Vamp ... 2741469541
Photo of tape in case eBay link expires: https://www.mediafire.com/file/wc9w2tde ... 5.jpg/file
Not to be confused with other Italian band named Wisdom that's currently on the site.

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Needs research. - Yesod Malkut
Location: Italy
Listed genre: Heavy Metal
Band members: Mimmo (guitars, vocals), Gino (bass, vocals)
Discography: Self-titled demo tape (December 1989; track listing: Back for the Attack/ I Salute You/ (From) the Dead Zone/ Master of My Life/ Deepest Lie/ Outro.
Discogs link: https://www.discogs.com/Yesod-Malkut-Ye ... e/13560306

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:39 am 
 

Needs research. - Crimson
location: Switzerland
Genre: Heavy metal
The band released the ep Why? in 1996. I need proof of a valid release and also possibly more songs from it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yycT8drJYOE

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KingSpooky wrote:
Regarding Crimson and Crimson Moon: If the person who posted them on YouTube can't give any further detail, the person who runs this website might know something about the bands: http://www.petp.ch/HeavyTrashDemo/

ThStealthK wrote:
Physical proof, in what comes proof of valid release:
https://i.paste.pics/B8K2G.png

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Needs research. - Crimson Moon
Location : Switzerland
Genre: Heavy metal/Hard Rock
Released the demo-Ep "Crimson Moon" in 1998. I need proof of valid release for it as well as more songsamples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ymM-PhkO-E

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KingSpooky wrote:
Regarding Crimson and Crimson Moon: If the person who posted them on YouTube can't give any further detail, the person who runs this website might know something about the bands: http://www.petp.ch/HeavyTrashDemo/

ThStealthK wrote:
Physical proof, in what comes proof of valid release:
https://i.paste.pics/B8K39.png

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:27 pm 
 

Regarding Crimson and Crimson Moon: If the person who posted them on YouTube can't give any further detail, the person who runs this website might know something about the bands: http://www.petp.ch/HeavyTrashDemo/

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:26 pm 
 

KingSpooky wrote:
(Joecubbie): Regarding Cason, the Arizona, US band that released the "Space and Time" cassette in 1994, they also have a follow-up CD, "Technical Overdrive" (1996). 2 of the songs can be heard here:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... +overdrive
CD on Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/Cason-Technical ... e/12817619

This band became Night Stalker, which then evolved into Exiled:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Exiled/4950


Interesting. Do you think this new information, coupled with the original info/songs I found is enough for a new submission?

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KingSpooky
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:03 pm 
 

Yeah, I think that Cason could be submitted. Here's a song originally from "Technical Overdrive" performed live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_h9OcvcREw (and it's also on the Exiled debut)

Also, just noticed that the song "Fighter Planes" is on both "Technical Overdrive" and the Exiled debut. It's basically the same band, so if anything the site is missing that early information currently.

http://veilarch.blogspot.com/2018/07/ex ... w.html?m=1
("The band started under the name CASON (actually from the name of the singer Jason Cason and founder of the band), then changed into NIGHT STALKER and after that took the name that they have until today. The band released its debut album in 2002")

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 6:56 pm 
 

Needs research. - The Wrath (later known as Hammer Damage)
Location: California, US
Genre: Heavy/Speed Metal
Band members: Paul Gensert (bass, ex-Martyr), Eric Keck (drums, ex-Martyr), Dave Hughart (vocals), Bill Simmons (guitars: ex-Martyr, ex-Agent Steel (1984 and 2019) - https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... mons/15974)
Compilation appearance: "Midnight Madman" on Metal Massacre 9 (1988, Metal Blade Records - song starts at 33:22 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drp6PC0 ... e=emb_logo. Engineered by Rich Vardian).
Discography: Unknown - if they ever released a demo, they should have an entry on the site. Great metal, with the interesting fact that the band is comprised of the pre-Agent Steel band Martyr, except for the vocalist. It's likely that this song came from a complete demo, but I haven't come across that information yet.
Additional info: https://en.wikipedia-on-ipfs.org/wiki/Agent_Steel.html (In the section here 'The Rise', which sounds like it was written by one of the band members of The Wrath: "He left Abattoir and teamed up with Bill Simmons guitar Paul Ginsert bass and Eric Keck drums as Agent Steel. John got upset and left us which we became The Wrath and onto Hammer Damage and he teamed up with drummer Chuck Profus to form Agent Steel with new members.") So at some point their name changed to Hammer Damage.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:17 pm 
 

joecubbie wrote:
Needs research. - Cason (United States, Heavy Metal)

Released an album in 1994 entitled Space and Time. The only sample I can find is the opening track, "Rock Night". If anyone can help, it'd be greatly appreciated.

"Rock Night": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8Cq9tXS-OE

Discogs page: https://www.discogs.com/Cason-Space-And ... e/13780971

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nomazlab wrote:
I believe this band changed their name to Exile, and are in the Archives under that name: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Exiled/4950
Searching the band members names as listed in that Discogs page brought me to this page for a band called Exile, mentioning they've also been known as Cason: http://www.metalhead.ro/exiled/#gsc.tab=0

GraveWish wrote:
Needs research. - Cason
Genre: Heavy Metal/Hard Rock? (can be anything really)
Location: Arizona, USA
Release: https://www.discogs.com/Cason-Space-And ... e/13780971
Found a song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8Cq9tXS-OE
Project of: https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/John_Cason/96742

I need samples.

The band was accepted:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Cason/3540480203
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