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TheStormIRide
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:43 pm 
 

Thanks for the heads up on that. The wiki article got a little confusing... or something. Will fix what I've fouled.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:40 am 
 

How do we handle cases where only one part of the location changes whereas the other part changes over time. Does that looks okay as it is?
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Be ... 3540263720
"Templin, Brandenburg/Berlin (early), Potsdam, Brandenburg/Berlin (later)"
Changing it to
"Templin (early)/Potsdam (later), Brandenburg / Berlin"
Could also work.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:43 am 
 

Seems fine as is, I think.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:23 am 
 

Czechia is almost done. A few loose ends to sort out:

- Eponymous cities/regions:
There are a few occasions where I can't find out whether the city or the region is meant. Those are left as:
Zlín, Ústí nad Labem, Liberec, Olomouc, Pilsen
There aren't many, and I'll keep digging up old demos on discogs to see whether there's an address to be found or not. New bands don't state their address in the booklet anymore. Some of them do, but yeah, it's not like the old days.
If someone is willing to help out, please do.

- https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/De ... 3540291510
Moravský kras is a natural reserve full of caverns - uninhabited as it were, so, the use of the place is for tr00 purposes only I assume.
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravsk%C3%BD_kras
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravian_Karst
The reserve is in the South Moravian Region of Czechia, but I'm not keen on listing that either, as it may not be true. He may be from Liberec, but still wants to use such a place as his location nonetheless. I'm thinking of leaving this one blank. Up to you, Deri/KJ.

- https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bl ... 3540356035
Morava is Czech for Moravia, which encompasses many regions. Not sure what to do here.

- https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Lilith/94957
Morkovice isn't an independent village anymore.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morkovice ... D%C5%BEany
Do you want it listed as Morkovice or Morkovice-Slížany?

- https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Be ... 3540291637
The band lists Krym as one of its locations.
One of the members seems to be Russian (given his name and email address - 2nd link):
http://www.bellifer.wz.cz/profily.php
http://www.bellifer.wz.cz/profily.php
Crimea should be added, but then I think the Czechia should be changed to International as well.

- https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Po ... 3540378063
West Bohemia. Further research needed. I can't find anything.

The rest is done. However, when I say done I mean the bands only, not the artists.
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Derigin
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:33 am 
 

Antioch wrote:
Eponymous cities/regions:
There are a few occasions where I can't find out whether the city or the region is meant. Those are left as:
Zlín, Ústí nad Labem, Liberec, Olomouc, Pilsen
There aren't many, and I'll keep digging up old demos on discogs to see whether there's an address to be found or not. New bands don't state their address in the booklet anymore. Some of them do, but yeah, it's not like the old days.
If someone is willing to help out, please do.

No problem. I'm putting together a list in the OP of bands whose locations need more research. Cases where it's unclear if the city or region is being mentioned, as in this case, can be added to the list. Any location which seems suspect and probably requires more research, if at all possible, can be listed.

Antioch wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Degoryen/3540291510
Moravský kras is a natural reserve full of caverns - uninhabited as it were, so, the use of the place is for tr00 purposes only I assume.
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravsk%C3%BD_kras
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravian_Karst
The reserve is in the South Moravian Region of Czechia, but I'm not keen on listing that either, as it may not be true. He may be from Liberec, but still wants to use such a place as his location nonetheless. I'm thinking of leaving this one blank. Up to you, Deri/KJ.

Heh, reminds me of all the "Hell, Michigan" locations I keep running into on Bandcamp and Facebook. I agree that it's best to leave this one blank, and then to add it to the list of bands whose locations need more research.

Antioch wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Blood_in_Our_Wells/3540356035
Morava is Czech for Moravia, which encompasses many regions. Not sure what to do here.

Probably best just to set it to blank and add it to the list of bands whose locations need more research.

Antioch wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Lilith/94957
Morkovice isn't an independent village anymore.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morkovice ... D%C5%BEany
Do you want it listed as Morkovice or Morkovice-Slížany?

Go with the contemporary situation, which would be to name it as Morkovice-Slížany.

Antioch wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bellifer/3540291637
The band lists Krym as one of its locations.
One of the members seems to be Russian (given his name and email address - 2nd link):
http://www.bellifer.wz.cz/profily.php
http://www.bellifer.wz.cz/profily.php
Crimea should be added, but then I think the Czechia should be changed to International as well.

Agreed.

Antioch wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Poprav%C4%8D%C3%AD_Vrch/3540378063
West Bohemia. Further research needed. I can't find anything.

Aye. Best for the bands whose locations are in need of more research list.

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The rest is done. However, when I say done I mean the bands only, not the artists.

Awesome work dude!
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:29 pm 
 

Cheers, Derigin.

Thanks for the quick responses. Will deal with those later today, and then compile a list and send it your way tomorrow.

I was almost done with Belgium by the way, but then I thought I'd finish Czechia first as KJ had already started. Belgium will be done in a couple of days.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:23 pm 
 

Derigin, I would like to work with Argentina.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:46 pm 
 

You've been assigned it. :)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:03 pm 
 

Hey. What to do with the bands that are from the autonomous city "Buenos Aires" and not from the province?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:28 am 
 

Buenos Aires is the only city that doesn't get a region in Argentina, so it just stays as Buenos Aires. Otherwise, every other city gets a region.

If you were talking about a band from the city of Buenos Aires, you'd write: Buenos Aires
If you were talking about a band from the province of Buenos Aires, you'd write: La Plata, Buenos Aires
And, if you can't find the city, but know the band is from the province, you'd write: Buenos Aires Province
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:49 am 
 

Derigin wrote:
Buenos Aires is the only city that doesn't get a region in Argentina, so it just stays as Buenos Aires. Otherwise, every other city gets a region.

If you were talking about a band from the city of Buenos Aires, you'd write: Buenos Aires

Hi. In this case, I suggest write Ciudad Autónoma de Buenos Aires instead of Buenos Aires, this will be more specific and thus avoid confusions. What do you think of that idea?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:08 pm 
 

It's best just to keep it simple, and stick with the English short name as Buenos Aires.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:11 pm 
 

Hungary is done.

Ambiguous city/county cases that need to be resolved:

Békés
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Abiozis/3540415421 (county only)
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ti ... 3540440215
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/K%C3%B6r%C3%B6s/3540440270 (county only)

Csongrád
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Fo ... ruth/69326

Veszprém
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/In ... 3540378308
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mirror/43026
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Stonehenge/7969
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sunrow/82218
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/GuilThee/97329
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/At ... 3540404562
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Na ... 3540377196
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Aliens/108146
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Witchmasters/47218
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Grox/3540341378
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Moonfog/86919
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Without_Face/2696
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Antichrist/24729
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Celebrant/40873
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sutcliffe/67498
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Pa ... rowd/45491
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Almost_Saint/44468
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Co ... cans/45497
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Depth/85181
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Prowler/47039
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Lu ... lum/105161
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Kr ... 3540344549
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:04 pm 
 

Hi,
What about band locations from Ireland?
I think counties will be a good option.
for example:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/De ... 3540379696

Add province? There are only four = Munster, Connacht, Leinster and one of them partly in the UK -> Ulster.

And it will look like this:
Navan, Meath, Leinster

Thanks for answer

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:23 pm 
 

For Ireland, best just to stick with counties only.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:37 am 
 

I came across a few instances of this:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bu ... ive/118677

Looks like the band is from Brual which is part of the municipal of Rhede. At least that is often refered to as "village-municipal" around here, but not in any official way that I knew of (postal stuff, maybe)
But can we be sure that they aren't from Brual and Rhede (which is also a village in the same municipal) with the "-" essentially acting as an "&"?
But given the way it's handled around here, I'm fine with just deleting the "-municipal" part.
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Slovenia is done. We opted to just forgo regions entirely.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Lintver/3540257034 Used to be Goriška Brda, which translates to "Gorizia Hills" and is also what Wikipedia has, so that's what I went with. It's a region, which should be fine absent a more specific location. There are a few more cases where I chose to go with one of the traditional regions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karst_Plateau_(Italy-Slovenia) There are three bands from the Karst area, which is referred to as Karst Plateau or Karst region on Wikipedia. Which to use?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carinthia_(Slovenia) One band from Slovenian Carinthia (as opposed to the Austrian state of the same name). I was considering "Slovenian Carinthia" or somesuch thing, but I think it's probably fine as is, since the CoO already specifies.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/S.L.O.D./100201 "New Polje". This seems to be a village near or a neighbourhood in Ljubljana? https://www.cs-polje.si/novo-polje/

The following have locations that correspond to more than one place in Slovenia. If we can determine which it is, should we add the municipality/region/whatever to disambiguate?
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/EstWind/3540388081
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Praslovan/53467 (already specified with the municipality when I came across it)
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ch ... 3540350510

More iffy region-only stuff:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Acrodus/125220 Might refer to the statistical region, which variant to use exactly if that's the case?
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Marax/3540440348 "Savinja Valley", go with that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savinja_a ... lek_Valley
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mora/118031 Maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mura_Statistical_Region also see https://www.slovenia.info/en/places-to- ... ia/pomurje
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:11 pm 
 

Derigin, I can update Ukrainian cities.

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Derigin
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Alright, I'll put you down for it.
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Gelordum
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Ukrainian cities for bands and main lineups were updated.

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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:09 pm 
 

Done, Derigin, I finished, there were many bands that I did not fix anything because their locations were fine and there were others that I could not fix anything just could not contact the bands.

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I think Thailand can be scratched off the list now. Except these 22 bands which all of them are long-disbanded or very obscure and hard to find the location.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Blue_Planet/118544
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Even/118554
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/In ... 3540417249
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Isis/115437
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ki ... 3540284620
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/La ... 3540403214
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Le ... 3540439840
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Li ... 3540258299
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Luridness/118557
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Me ... ect/118550
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mirror/114873
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Morranaphab/20048
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Rhythm_God/125830
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ro ... 3540287718
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Rotten_Flesh/47647
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/S.O.S./127303
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sa ... hat/125827
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Speedy_Dog/114969
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ta ... 3540293920
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Th ... 3540286382
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Th ... dow/125832
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vetal/3540383900

Also, there are bands that the location is vague and not comprehensive (eg. members are from different location). But I will keep update on this in the future.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:08 pm 
 

Moving the report here.
https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/694906

I remember there was a band name once that exceeded the characters limit and then HB increased the capacity of the field, so I'm wondering if this can be done to the location field as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:13 pm 
 

I'll pass that along to him and ask. :)

Sorry I didn't get to your report earlier. Been a busy week with the review challenge going on.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:41 pm 
 

Great.

No worries. I should've probably posted here in the first place. It certainly belongs here more than in a report. ;)
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This needs immediate attention from either TSIR or Derigin.

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/ex ... nds%20Blog

He's re-editing Bogota...
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Antioch wrote:
This needs immediate attention from either TSIR or Derigin.

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/ex ... nds%20Blog

He's re-editing Bogota...

Derigin warned him
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Whew. Good catch Antioch!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:56 am 
 

A tad late, though, considering how many he'd done.
Thank y'all. :) Rock on.
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PaganiusI wrote:
Antioch wrote:
This needs immediate attention from either TSIR or Derigin.

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/ex ... nds%20Blog

He's re-editing Bogota...

Derigin warned him


Still doing that
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Thanks for the update. I'm reverting all of the edits and sent him a warning to refrain from editing Bogota locations again.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:30 pm 
 

TheStormIRide wrote:
Thanks for the update. I'm reverting all of the edits and sent him a warning to refrain from editing Bogota locations again.


Hello again Storm, I don't want to be repetitive or panoptic, but now this user is removing the correct accent mark for Atlántico to Atlantico multiple times (which is not correct grammatically speaking!) Atlántico is the correct form, in spanish this kind of words are known by the term "esdrújula" words, I will correct everything, but why is he doing that?! He has 18684 points and is not like he is helping with anything but point-bitching and purposely mistaken the correct grammar of the Spanish language...

EDIT: He did the same with Quindío department *sigh*

EDIT 2: Same with Medellín........... Now I see, I got the theory that he removes the accent marks of the words expecting to be sneaky in front of non-speaking Spanish people.
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ᴎostalgiʞK wrote:
Hello again Storm, I don't want to be repetitive or panoptic, but now this user is removing the correct accent mark for Atlántico to Atlantico multiple times (which is not correct grammatically speaking!) Atlántico is the correct form, in spanish this kind of words are known by the term "esdrújula" words, I will correct everything, but why is he doing that?! He has 18684 points and is not like he is helping with anything but point-bitching and purposely mistaken the correct grammar of the Spanish language...


Please stop fixing Colombia locations. I originally set both without the accent marks (as per the English version of Google Maps). I understand there is a different take on that in the Spanish speaking world, but MA is using the English version. I already informed him that he was reverting my edits, which he started to correct, and now you are trying to correct what has already been corrected. So again, please just let the Colombian locations alone for the time being and let me handle it.

I feel like all I've done in the last week is fix locations that were already correct, only to have to fix them again.
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AND FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS UNHOLY FUCKING LEAVE BOGOTA ALONE.
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Chile is done.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:20 am 
 

I haven't seen this 'till now (good news, for the lack of homogeneity). I could afford Spain. After all, most of the incorrections at the light of new rules are my fault.

Edit:

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5. Top/First Level Regions. [...] Likewise, it is also not desired to utilize sub-city districts/regions, either.


Do the same rule applies when it comes to isolated urban nucleus or separate residential areas without their own municipality?

An example:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/El+Fr ... 6549?hl=en

El Franco is the municipality (smallest administrative level in Spain), but there is not any town called like that.
Do we set bands from "La Caridad" to be from "El Franco" or leave it the way it is now?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:34 am 
 

TheStormIRide wrote:
Chile is done.

Seems this user is removing tons of regions you added to the location field.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:34 am 
 

Duisterling wrote:
TheStormIRide wrote:
Chile is done.

Seems this user is removing tons of regions you added to the location field.


I have already reversed everything in the name of TheStormIRide and the credibility of Metal Archives.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:36 pm 
 

Duisterling wrote:
TheStormIRide wrote:
Chile is done.

Seems this user is removing tons of regions you added to the location field.

Friendly message sent.
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I noticed a mistake regarding locations in Israel which needs to be corrected-

The administrative term for Judea and Samaria is not "West Bank," but "Judea and Samaria." Therefore, bands who have "West Bank" as the district of their location should be fixed to the correct term.

example for reference

proof:

wikipedia
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