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Kennermahn
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 3:26 pm 
 

Hello
There are over a thousand songs with feat. Artist in the title (and I'm not including here "featuring" and other variations), which isn't a real title, but something appended just to show that a artist is featured in the song (any simple search on any search engine shows this). Other than the silliness of having the names of artists in more than a thousand songs, this means many artists aren't being properly credited. Unless there's a problem with this, I'm going to fix this with as many songs as I can.

Anyone is welcome to contribute.

The following songs seem to be cases where the "feat." is legit:
Spoiler: show
Coroner - Old Man Bickford (feat S.W. Bouroughs)
Hell's Pigeons - Taub-O-Negative (feat. Peter Steele)
Moulk - If I Were a Girl (Feat. Google Traduction)


Thanks


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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 4:43 pm 
 

Hi
If that's okay, I'd like to contribute too.
I'll try to dig up as much information as possible about the mentioned artists, if there's any.

Thanks.

Edit: I've been doing some clearing, hope all is well. I've tried to fill in as much information as I was able to find.

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Kennermahn
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 2:06 pm 
 

Cool! Thanks

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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 8:07 pm 
 

Well, I've came across this album and I think this is worthy of note:

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/M ... ulk/706529

Track 6 is literally called "If I Were a Girl (Feat. Google Traduction)" and, taking into account the fact that's a parody band, I assume that's just a comedic title that was given to that song. Additionally, all the songs in that album are written in French, apart from that one, specifically, so, I guess that the artist behind that project just needed some more help in writing lyrics for it (hence the "feat Google Translate"). Also, it's not even "Translate" but "Traduction", which is the French translation for that same term.
So, in conclusion, I'd say this is a joke title and not an actual collaboration with someone else who could've used that alias.

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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 9:58 am 
 

Yes, I agree, there are of course exceptions to this, but these humorous/meta cases are more like the exception. Every case must be looked into, but almost any single instance of the title without the "feat" thing should be considered enough.

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 10:58 am 
 

Here's another situation like the one above:
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/C ... 5%29/39526

The track "Old Man Bickford (feat S.W. Bouroughs)" seems like a play on the homonimous Burroughs' song "Old Man Bickford". It's not even a cover, as the lyrics are very different from one another. Should the typo on the person's name be corrected?

Personally, I think that the original post should be updated with a list of cases just like those, hidden in spoiler, so that another contributors can understand that such situations can happen and to avoid confusing these titles as collaborations between different artists. What do you say about this?

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 2:51 pm 
 

Yeah, this sounds like a good idea, thanks.

I tend to think the "feat." from the Coroner song should be removed because he's there because they use a sound sample of him speaking, but not strongly enough to do it myself, so I won't.

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2021 11:24 am 
 

Oh, okay, in that case, it surely might've been a play by the band itself, since it is also mentioned in the versions available on Discogs. I'll just correct the typo on the man's name.
Thanks.

Edit: Here are a couple of cases in with the "feat" is legit, since they're covers of popular songs:
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/E ... tal/363239
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/E ... xes/620882

Eddie Kim - Nothin' on You (B.o.B. feat. Bruno Mars cover)
Eddie Kim - OMG (Usher feat. will.i.am cover)
Eddie Kim - California Gurls (Katy Perry feat. Snoop Dogg cover)
Eddie Kim - Major Lazer & DJ Snake- Lean On feat. MØ
Eddie Kim - Iggy Azalea- Fancy feat. Charli XCX

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2021 12:36 pm 
 

MDL wrote:
Oh, okay, in that case, it surely might've been a play by the band itself, since it is also mentioned in the versions available on Discogs. I'll just correct the typo on the man's name.
Thanks.


I think either we consider the feat and the misspelled name part of the title or we remove it entirely, I wouldn't touch it.

MDL wrote:
Edit: Here are a couple of cases in with the "feat" is legit, since they're covers of popular songs:
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/E ... tal/363239
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/E ... xes/620882

Eddie Kim - Nothin' on You (B.o.B. feat. Bruno Mars cover)
Eddie Kim - OMG (Usher feat. will.i.am cover)
Eddie Kim - California Gurls (Katy Perry feat. Snoop Dogg cover)
Eddie Kim - Major Lazer & DJ Snake- Lean On feat. MØ
Eddie Kim - Iggy Azalea- Fancy feat. Charli XCX


In these cases what I'll do is I'll remove the feat. too because these are B.O.B., Usher... covers, the feat. artist is an unnecessary addendum. Although can't deny I liked the idea of having Charli XCX in a song title here :D

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2021 6:57 pm 
 

Ahah, yes, indeed, there's surely many other gems around the database.

About the Coroner song, I was able to find a written source of that same release, in which the song is mentioned with the typo, yes. It's probably the same with the other versions around, but the image quality made them pretty much unreadable. But by the amount of ofuscated words and letters, I guess that the "feat" is, indeed, part of the song, including the typo. I'll update it, once again.
https://www.discogs.com/fr/Coroner-The- ... e/15554969

Edit:
Situations like these usually boggle my mind:
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/D ... ien/531304

With songs that are remixed by other single artists, or even entire musical groups, like MRDTC with the band above, should we also add them or this information should be exclusively mentioned in the additional notes? We might need some mod help with this one.

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* This looks like another case just like the one above. There's no more information about the collaborating artists in the record below, so, we cannot assume that both "l-KRz" and "Abbandonica" are single artist, since there's a possibility that those entities can also be bands.
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/S ... ole/821032

* I assume this is just another situation in which the "feat" seems legit:
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/S ... ife/380143
The initials "SDE" are, most likely, a reference to the band's name (Sun Devoured Earth). The band is even searchable on the database with just those initials. The feat part looks like a play on it. I guess there's no other way to confirm, since the band hasn't been active on its social media since 2015.

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2021 4:35 pm 
 

Hello again.
Pardon for the double post, but I've been across some cases that might need some extra work involved, it would be great if there were more users contributing actively in this process than just us.
The following releases need further investigation, so we can know for sure what the collaborative artist's duty was, either by listening to the band's music, to find any piece of information that clarifies that or any other way that somehow elucidates us about such:

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/K ... 27s/341809

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Z ... ida/657081

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/A ... ans/157958 (one of the results in Google search led me to the singer Carole King, which is not correct).

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/I ... ows/536872

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/B ... III/503189

There are many more of those, but I've only began to list them at the moment.

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2021 5:22 am 
 

MDL wrote:

2nd edit:


* This looks like another case just like the one above. There's no more information about the collaborating artists in the record below, so, we cannot assume that both "l-KRz" and "Abbandonica" are single artist, since there's a possibility that those entities can also be bands.
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/S ... ole/821032

* I assume this is just another situation in which the "feat" seems legit:
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/S ... ife/380143
The initials "SDE" are, most likely, a reference to the band's name (Sun Devoured Earth). The band is even searchable on the database with just those initials. The feat part looks like a play on it. I guess there's no other way to confirm, since the band hasn't been active on its social media since 2015.


To be honest, I wouldn't bother too much with very specific cases, it's not like anyone really cares about some weird remix album... Although mod input would be nice.

MDL wrote:
Hello again.
Pardon for the double post, but I've been across some cases that might need some extra work involved, it would be great if there were more users contributing actively in this process than just us.
The following releases need further investigation, so we can know for sure what the collaborative artist's duty was, either by listening to the band's music, to find any piece of information that clarifies that or any other way that somehow elucidates us about such:

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/K ... 27s/341809

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Z ... ida/657081

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/A ... ans/157958 (one of the results in Google search led me to the singer Carole King, which is not correct).

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/I ... ows/536872

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/B ... III/503189

There are many more of those, but I've only began to list them at the moment.


If you don't know what they did, credit them as Unknown (track #) and that's it, if someone comes along and wants to improve the information, they're more than welcome to do so.

MDL wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ioriya/Cosmic_Sorrows/536872


This case is weird, though. I've credited this "person" because I saw it was credited already, but this is not an actual person, but a voice set generated with Vocaloird. I asked about this in this forum.

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2021 6:01 am 
 

Okay, in that case, I'll update these albums.
About the Vocaloid, I guess that I'll just change the gender to "N/A", because, even if the character is female, it's more like an entity, comparable to an orchestra, for example.

Edit: Another case where the "feat" seems legit:

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/H ... %21/259297

They have a song named "Taub-O-Negative", featuring Peter Steele. I assume this is a prank by the band, since I highly doubt Peter Steele had actually collaborated with this unknown band from Saxony, that didn't release anything else since that same demo, without that participation being relatively well known.

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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:18 am 
 

MDL wrote:
Okay, in that case, I'll update these albums.
About the Vocaloid, I guess that I'll just change the gender to "N/A", because, even if the character is female, it's more like an entity, comparable to an orchestra, for example.


Yes, this makes sense.

MDL wrote:
Edit: Another case where the "feat" seems legit:

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/H ... %21/259297

They have a song named "Taub-O-Negative", featuring Peter Steele. I assume this is a prank by the band, since I highly doubt Peter Steele had actually collaborated with this unknown band from Saxony, that didn't release anything else since that same demo, without that participation being relatively well known.


Yeah, I'll add it

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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 7:27 pm 
 

Hello again.
There's another case of a song which features members of another entire bands:
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/G ... eak/877494

I've contacted the band and they told me that they usually compose songs featuring side-projects of the same band. In that case, there's CorpseShade, but they've mentioned some other groups, such as Bended Steel, Bedum and MAFBYB, which are bands on their own and not parody/fake bands.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:12 pm 
 

Hello.
I've contacted KingSpooky about these specific situations ("feats" with remixes and with entire bands) and he redirected me to the MA's Discord server, so I could get help from someone who would know what to do in such cases.
I described the situations and Derigin chimed in:

-For circumstances like those of Die Krupps (remixes), the collaborating artists should be mentioned in the album's line-up with the role "remixer", even if there are bands, and not just single artists, doing that job.

-In situations in which there are bands listed as having collaborated in a single track, that band should be mentioned on the additional notes as having taking part on it, as well on the band's page. This applies unless individual band's members have confirmed roles for these tracks. In circumstances like these:
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/L ... tem/369467

I'll then proceed to update these informations as soon as I can.

Edit: updated.

Edit2:
Another case where the use of "feat." is legit (at least, that's what it seems to me, and I'll explain below):
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/I ... %29/719131

Well, this is an obvious and infamous troll project. I cannot find any information regarding a "Count Progula" anywhere else on the internet than the websites that mention this release. My take is that this is a play on Count Dankula, you know, that Youtuber who does some satyrical or even downright retarded far-right content for his channel. I've made a quick search and yes, that's probably it. That song was released on June 2018 and Count/Mark was involved in a bunch of judicial processes during March-April 2018. The incident received some media coverage and triggered the public opinion in the United Kingdom. And guess what, Count is from Scotland and the In Snakes project is based on Scotland as well.
So, quite a big explanation for saying that this is surely another case like the aforementioned songs.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:11 pm 
 

Hello.
Pardon for this amount of subsequent posts.
I'll list a bunch of songs in which the "feat" part can be preserved, along with the reasons for such:

Gas - Ultimatum 666 Feat. Charles Manson
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/R ... don/119585

This one is pretty much evident.

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Genetikai Hulladék - Intracloacal Sperm Injection Feat. Lady Kaka
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/G ... hes/522756

Although that's an unlisted band, it still can stay. It's obviously a play on Lady Gaga ("caca" means "poop" in Spanish) and the song has a pop music sampler with a female singer on the background. I'm not sure if that's Lady Gaga, though, but I guess that the band itself isn't too worried about it as well lmao.

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Andri from Pagefire - I Made Some Hardbass Feat. Vladimir Lenin
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/A ... r_3/839665

It's a play by a parody/comedic band.

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The Cops - Wave Jammers Waverly AM Jams for Big Sky Halcyion Benefit Feat. The Cops - Eccentricity vs. Craziness
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/T ... ops/311745

It's a play by a parody/comedic band.

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Jason Becker - Nate, You Funky Mofo! ( 16 yrs old ) (feat. N8 Fox)
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/J ... pes/662147

N8 Fox aka Nate Fox is a friend of Becker, that was responsible for producing the documentary about him, Jason Becker: Not Dead Yet (2012).
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8194072/

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Erock- Turn Me on by David Guetta feat. Nicki Minaj Meets Metal (David Guetta cover)
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/E ... ._1/608849

I was told that, since that's an actual song title, as displayed on the band's official media, it should be left as it is.

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Sadistic Experiments - Street Sweepers (feat. Ramones)
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/M ... omy/590752

This one is evident.

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G.O.D. - The Drummin' Blues (Feat. The Growlin' Band)
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/G ... ues/122825

It's a humorous project and that title looks like a play on these words, just as it appears on the other tracks from the same album.

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Lakupaavi - Shitter Limited on maailman paras bändi (feat. Vitummoista pörinää)
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/L ... %A4h/95061

Another humorous project that appeared to have made a play on another band's album title (Vitummoista pörinää, by Puhelinkoppi).

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All the songs in this Byron Nemeth's compilation:
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/B ... ars/475458

I've written a note in the additional notes clarifying this situation. I've contacted Byron and he told me that this compilation features re-recordings of songs composed by his past/current bands that have never made it to an official full-length release, due to eventual line-up changes. Some of these songs were even recorded with a different line-up than the original one. MA's staff told me to leave the "featuring" parts as they are currently displayed and to write an additional note to explain that.

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Die Krupps- Robo Sapien (Technomancer feat. Angst Pop Rmx)
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/D ... ien/531306

I was told that this one must stay like that.

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Hyper Talbot - Corona de rayos (Feat. Fer)

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/H ... est/628157

"Fer" is most likely the band's guitarist Fernando Hooch Blatanikov, who is also known as Fer. In these cases, it should stay as it is.

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Rubeus and the Hagrids- Fluffy the 3 Headed Doggo (feat. Kose Pose)
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/R ... rid/835926

Kose Pose is another project from the same person behind Rubeus. In these cases, it should stay as it is.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:57 am 
 

Okay, those make sense, thanks.

By the way, this is a work in progress, I just got tired of it for a while, but it's something I always do every once in a while.

Shouldn't an official announcement recommending people not to add those "feat" unless entirely justified be added?

Thanks

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:19 pm 
 

Hello.
Yes, I agree with that. I've been noticing some newer additions with that "feat" thing on the song titles, which tends to mess up and delay the completion of this task.

I've done some more clearing, lately, thanks!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:37 am 
 

Hello.
I've just noticed that the "feat." ain't the only thing we shall decimate, but also its long form, "featuring". These appear to be mostly associated with well-known bands, so, I guess it might be easier to clean these up:
https://www.metal-archives.com/search?s ... song_title

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:27 am 
 

Hello.

Here's another potential exception:


Songs from the album "Tales from Shangri-la" by Legion of the Deceased

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/L ... -la/554999

Taken from the band's parodic style, I'd say that all these feats might be invented, just for the sake of it. If we could have access to their music, it would be better to confirm, but their Spotify page doesn't work for me:

https://open.spotify.com/album/3o6Bh1ycDEQKuuNIIMEV7w


Edit:
Some more cases in which the "feat" must stay:

The Saviour- The Conqueror Worm feat. Zack Wylde (Glass Prism cover)
(it's a joke band)
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/T ... War/601370

Bahajang- Firauan Dikecam feat. Adolf Hitler (this one is quite obvious, but it would be hilarious to have Hitler added as an artist lmao)
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/B ... ion/367555


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:05 pm 
 

MDL wrote:
Hello.
I've just noticed that the "feat." ain't the only thing we shall decimate, but also its long form, "featuring". These appear to be mostly associated with well-known bands, so, I guess it might be easier to clean these up:
https://www.metal-archives.com/search?s ... song_title


Yes, that's true.

MDL wrote:
Hello.

Here's another potential exception:
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/L ... -la/554999

Taken from the band's parodic style, I'd say that all these feats might be invented, just for the sake of it. If we could have access to their music, it would be better to confirm, but their Spotify page doesn't work for me:

https://open.spotify.com/album/3o6Bh1ycDEQKuuNIIMEV7w


Edit:
Some more cases in which the "feat" must stay:

The Saviour- The Conqueror Worm feat. Zack Wylde (Glass Prism cover)
(it's a joke band)
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/T ... War/601370

Bahajang- Firauan Dikecam feat. Adolf Hitler (this one is quite obvious, but it would be hilarious to have Hitler added as an artist lmao)
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/B ... ion/367555


Okay, those make sense.

Thank you for your help

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:34 pm 
 

No problem!

Here's another one:
Clostridium Perfringens- Herpes Genital (Feat. Dr. Dráuzio Varela). Varella is a well-known Brazilian doctor and this was surely a play by the band, that also comes from Brazil.

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/C ... tos/859890

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Purulent Excretor - The Pommade Master (feat. Pascal Obispo). Pascal Obispo is a famous pop/rock singer from France, who certainly didn't took part in a grindcore song.

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/P ... ibu/743464

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:41 pm 
 

Hello. Here's another exceptional case:

Irontree - Johnny I Hardly Knew Ya (Rehearsal Bonus Track Feat. The Final Bing)

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/I ... ess/987558

According to the band, "The Final Bing" isn't an artist, but a reference to the German slang term "Bing", which represents the sound of the drummer hitting the ride cymbal. That wasn't supposed to happen on that song, but it did occur anyway and the band decided to mention that on a funny way, in that song title.

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Darah Perawan - Bulu Henceut (Featuring Karinding)

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/C ... omy/625526

Karinding is not a person, but an Indonesian instrument that was used on that song.

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All songs from Pitchshifter's Un​-​United Kingdom EP (20th Anniversary Brexit Edition)

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/P ... %29/837910

I was told that it should be left as it is, since it would make all the songs' titles equal to each other.

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Frogoroth- The Call of the Tadpole (feat Petunia)


https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/F ... my/1007340

This should also stay as it is. That's an integral part of the song title and, actually, "Petunia" is not a person, but a pig that the band allegadly featured on that song.

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Intoxicate- Into Hibernation (feat. Revenge of Lunchecho)


https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/I ... tion/69121

The band told me that's not an actual artist, but a reference to a burp sound in the middle of the song.

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Spinach Lady - A Message From Satan (ft. Bruno Powroznik)

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/S ... st/1020074

Reference to a guy who makes weird videos.

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Cuckoo's Nest - Grey Music (feat. Ignem)

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/C ... ngs/685947

It's originally a song by Ignem, but the band has reached an agreement with the artist, in order to credit him for covering the song, and the song was named this way.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:40 pm 
 

Thanks for carrying on with this work.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:37 pm 
 

Hello, here are other cases:
Femur- Holy Trumpet (Feat. El Hombre Trompeta)

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/F ... on/1047014

This is certainly a joke by the band, having in account the song's title and their comedic style.

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石渡太輔- Crossing Fate feat. P4U / Uni / Rwby

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/% ... ack/979588

I believe that those are most likely voice generators in the vein of vocaloids, but regardless of that, whenever there a case of songs with the same title appearing one next to the others, the "feat" part must not be removed, as it differs each one of them accordingly, as the title doesn't appear repeatadely.

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Cx9 - Viruela cumbietón feat. El Gucci

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/C ... ore/597663

Surely another comedic title.

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Souldevorer- March of the S.O.D. feat. Sgt. Hartman (S.O.D. cover)

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/S ... .t./994743

A reference to the Full Metal Jacket character.


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Iraventus - Sign of Thunder (Feat. Stream of Hope)

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/I ... ath/226145

That is actually the name of an outro song by the band. If it's not an artist, it must be kept that way.

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New one(s):

Awful - A Fit of Caughing (feat. Maurino)

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/A ... ns/1081230

Maurino is certainly the thing that is doing those strange sounds that appear on that track. I don't know where it comes from and it is surely a comedic title, for the sake of it.

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