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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:04 pm 
 

In order to help streamline the closing of reports, I'm putting a list here of reports that have been sitting with the "moderator attention requested" tag for a while with no mod input. If one of the mods wants to help knock these out, it will close up a number of old reports, many of them from 2015.

http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 1/show/all - Dealing with an issue of pre-gap tracks and track lineups
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 9/show/all - Azmodes had this assigned to him for a few months but it was never updated
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 6/show/all - Zodijackyl made some headway on it, but hit a wall it seems
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 0/show/all - Having to do with a somewhat confusing discography section for Lamb of God
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 5/show/all - Zodijackyl had some info on it, but it's been stale for a while now
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 8/show/all
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 8/show/all - Conflicting responses, maybe just close it?
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 1/show/all - Diamhea worked on it briefly, but the album in question looks off
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 4/show/all - Dealing with two bands merging members and discographies, all info is already there
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 0/show/all - Dealing with possible Dio bootlegs (from SF01)
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 1/show/all - Maybe a white-wash?
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 6/show/all - Wrong music genre (some samples provided)
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 5/show/all - Dealing with setting a band status to "disputed"
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 8/show/all - Wrong music genre (full-album samples provided)
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 8/show/all - Someone disputing dates from V1
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 2/show/all - Talks about the merging of separate parent pages for live CDs and DVDs of the same concert
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 6/show/all - V/A comp that needs to be deleted (didn't Knights have the ability to delete albums at some point?)
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 7/show/all - Guy says he wasn't in bands, Diamhea handled other similar reports
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 8/show/all - Wrong music genre
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 0/show/all - Band needs their country of origin set to Unknown
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 9/show/all - Band needs their country of origin set to Unknown
http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 4/show/all - More bootleg reports from SF01
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:47 pm 
 

Report queue still over 200. Not really gaining any ground here. Thanks so far MCH, but we need more people to pitch in. Seems like some regulars haven't been around lately.

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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:49 am 
 

I've been trying to do my best where I can too, but only ended up adding more reports for incorrect info...

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Klaagzang
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:18 pm 
 

I've been trying to help out. This is genuinely hard as shit, haha.

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:34 pm 
 

Yeah, most stagnated reports have been sitting a while for a reason.


The help is appreciated!

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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:12 am 
 

I've closed a few today and assigned myself some others.

Am I able to flag a user's attention on a report? If so, how? I can flag a mod to look at it, but if I want to go back to the reporter for more info, it doesn't seem I can?

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:27 pm 
 

No, you can't request user input at your rank. You can however flag it for a moderator to look at.

I also don't recommend assigning reports to yourself unless you are confident you can handle it in a timely fashion. Otherwise they get forgotten even easier, as nobody actively checks that part of the queue.
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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:06 pm 
 

Diamhea wrote:
No, you can't request user input at your rank. You can however flag it for a moderator to look at.

I also don't recommend assigning reports to yourself unless you are confident you can handle it in a timely fashion. Otherwise they get forgotten even easier, as nobody actively checks that part of the queue.


Ok. Thanks!

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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:38 pm 
 

Apparently Micheal Eden of Eden's Curse is mad at us: http://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/551263. If this is the real Eden, he's whitewashing, as I explained in detail on the report page.
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:56 pm 
 

I can't think of a better example for the term "disputed," so that is definitely staying as-is for now.

As for the condescending tone of that report, whoever that is can fuck off.
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 11:42 am 
 

Queue is pretty nasty lately.

Guys, you have my okay to close some of these stagnated reports. Simply include a cursory response to flag a new report if he/she can provide the details that we need to make the requested change(s). Let's try and get this back under 200 again.

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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 1:51 pm 
 

Been going through the older reports to clear out the dusty ones. For some reason a number of them appear to have already been update, whether on purpose or by happenstance, but the reports were never closed.
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 1:55 pm 
 

Yeah, that isn't uncommon actually.
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~Guest 193166
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 2:22 pm 
 

I had closed a couple earlier today that had no valid or otherwise clear sources and asked them to resubmit when they can be forthright with their sources... I'll be on the lookout for more.

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Antioch
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 6:04 pm 
 

Only few had to be closed for lack of evidence. Most had sufficient, valid sources. This round was for Dia, not for MA.
That's not why I'm here, though. Just an idea for "Reports" in general. Could you set a word/character limit? Some users/visitors just ramble on and on to get to the point, hence their reports don't get tackled right away. Others cram a gazillion updates into one giant report, which, in a perfect world, should be divided into three or four reports asking to update specific bits and pieces. I think that the longer the report is the less likely it's to be tackled promptly. There's just something about it that doesn't exactly scream "Handle me!".
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 7:17 pm 
 

I appreciate you guys giving me a hand here. Everything is looking much better.

Antioch: I know what you mean. Can't say that's a great idea because multiple reports will simply inflate the queue more. If something sits for a while, so be it.
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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 1:10 am 
 

Well it's down to 211 in the main queue. A number of them are reports waiting in limbo for responses, but not enough time has passed that I'd consider closing them for inactivity. I'm also trying to go through and sort the assigned category (to weed out those people who report something and then assign it to themselves before anyone sees it) and the resolved category, to make sure the reports were properly addressed by the veteran users before closing them out.
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~Guest 193166
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 1:46 am 
 

At least a good share of the quite recent influx--at least 25--were a couple orphan artist entries I had stumbled across, incidentally, that I thought I would flag for removal. Some of the other recent ones I had looked over coincidentally are also members individualizing reports as Antioch and Dia described above.

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 2:36 am 
 

Orphan entries will be automatically purged, so no need to put too much time into those.

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~Guest 193166
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 2:39 pm 
 

Alright, thank you sir.

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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 10:45 pm 
 

Success. 173 as of 11PM EST.
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 10:51 pm 
 

My report queue mantra is to avoid snowballing, almost always pursuant to stagnation. This has kept it under ~300 for over two years straight. It was over 2000 before that.

The user can always flag another report. If something seems to be sitting/stalling waiting for a response (especially visitor reports), don't be afraid to close it as I mentioned above.

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Midnightwards666
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 9:10 am 
 

You've done very well
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 9:25 am 
 

Appreciate it HS. We've got it down to as much of a science as it could be, by this point.

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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 11:55 am 
 

Alright, the assigned queue has been pruned, with reports either set back to unassigned after being mistakenly taken by the reporting user, or input being requested on behalf of the lower-ranked users that took the assignment.

I've cleared about 100 from the resolved category as well. 99% were fine, but we have a few newer queue workers that need to hone their skills. Several reports were only partially fixed, or did not properly update the data to our standards.
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 1:43 pm 
 

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
Alright, the assigned queue has been pruned, with reports either set back to unassigned after being mistakenly taken by the reporting user, or input being requested on behalf of the lower-ranked users that took the assignment.

I've cleared about 100 from the resolved category as well. 99% were fine, but we have a few newer queue workers that need to hone their skills. Several reports were only partially fixed, or did not properly update the data to our standards.


Great. Wish I had a way to reward you more at the moment but hey... points!
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 2:46 pm 
 

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
I've cleared about 100 from the resolved category as well. 99% were fine, but we have a few newer queue workers that need to hone their skills. Several reports were only partially fixed, or did not properly update the data to our standards.

Minus 60 more. I cheated big time, though. Had them listed by assignee, and as you said, some did better than others.
I'm done with reports for a long time. :p
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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 5:28 pm 
 

And now we're down to 60, which I'll probably knock out before bed tonight.
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 7:21 pm 
 

^^ The report queue masters! xD

Incidentally, I'm beginning to take note that the primary frustration apart from mere lack of evidence is how effectively one communicates the update they desire. It can be tricky interpreting just what this or that means in a given context, and it helps to familiarize yourself with the source content and the user/visitor input and slowly but surely gradually put the two together into the prescribed update. The way some people write (myself included on a recent report), all you have to go off of is essentially the source.

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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:08 am 
 

Alright. Resolved queue is empty as of writing this. I ended up putting 30ish reports either into my assigned queue or back in the main queue to be properly worked, but the other 300 or so have been closed out.
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:40 pm 
 

Great. "Resolved" are a section that I never bother with, to be frank. I leave this one for knights and other higher-ranking regular users to handle.

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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:53 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... /show/mine

Half of my response to this report seems to have disappeared in the few hours since I posted it. What gives?
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:30 am 
 

So, BlackMetalCultRecord [banned] pops in every now and then to report a few bands' involvement in some kind of cult or whatever. How do you want us to proceed?
The site is so slow as of late. Is it just me?
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:07 pm 
 

Antioch wrote:
So, BlackMetalCultRecord [banned] pops in every now and then to report a few bands' involvement in some kind of cult or whatever. How do you want us to proceed?

How do you mean? If the reports are nonsense, just close them. He's already banned.

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The site is so slow as of late. Is it just me?

Haven't noticed.
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:23 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
How do you mean? If the reports are nonsense, just close them. He's already banned.

Voila: http://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/564362
It's first-hand knowledge, that's the thing. I remember Dia telling me to ignore similar reports, but I can't remember whether this was the user who filed them. There are a few banned users who still flag reports - some useful some not - so not sure which category this one belongs to.

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The site is so slow as of late. Is it just me?

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Haven't noticed.

Probably my connection, then. Thank you.
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ah yeah, you can add a mention of these droll "cults" to the band notes. If it's evidently true, you can resolve reports by banned users.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:23 pm 
 

Great job whoever is working the queue as of late. Down to 275 from 300 about almost an hour and a half ago.

Edit: Ah, I see Diamhea and Antioch had requested input and that's about all I need to know!

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Antioch
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:09 pm 
 

It's actually Dia. I'm doing the usual, i.e. not much.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:10 pm 
 

I see! I try to do what I can in the queue but I feel like it's never enough sometimes.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:18 am 
 

yeah, marking valid reports you can't work on as "resolved" is hardly help, tho, ksevile...
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