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Lich Coldheart
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:45 am 
 

Has Erosion of Humanity just become a mod?
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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:52 am 
 

Was my name previously this nifty shade of orange?

To answer your question in a word. Yes.
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Lich Coldheart
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:01 am 
 

Erosion of Humanity wrote:
Was my name previously this nifty shade of orange?

To answer your question in a word. Yes.

... And here was I thinking that "just" was a keyword...
Anyway, congrats man.
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BastardHead
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:38 am 
 

Ero was actually modded the day he signed up as a sort of experiment to see how long he'd go before he'd notice, at which point we'd actually change his color and title. The answer is: roughly four years.
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Lich Coldheart
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:33 pm 
 

BastardHead wrote:
roughly four years.

:o
Man, that's a lot of time...
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:06 am 
 

When was the rank "Metal knight" created, and who was the first user to be promoted to it?

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:30 am 
 

Storm of the Light's Bane wrote:
When was the rank "Metal knight" created, and who was the first user to be promoted to it?


October 1, 2012. The first two knights were MutantClannfear and myself, along with three former mods (BlackFlag, Drowned, and PhantomOTO.)

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iamntbatman
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:44 am 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
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Hey!
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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:56 am 
 

Boom, page 2 thread necromancy.

Piggybacking off the last post, there's about 40 or so Metal Knights on the site. How many of those are former staff (I feel like I recognize a lot of those names from v1)? Moreso, does every former mod in good standing get the knight rank? And have you guys ever had to strip that rank from users? Finally, was metal knight designed firstly as a way to provide more capabilities for trusted users, or was it conceived as a testing ground for staff?
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:35 am 
 

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
Piggybacking off the last post, there's about 40 or so Metal Knights on the site. How many of those are former staff (I feel like I recognize a lot of those names from v1)?

PhantomOTO, Drowned, BlackFlag, Tueur (most active christkiller account), Stormrider, Fanfarigoule, Corimngul, Crick, The_Internet, Argus Monitor, Perdition666, Demenekan, Snow Listener/sofashue, Halloween/UndeadIdiot, Dexter(_prog), Fulgurius

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Moreso, does every former mod in good standing get the knight rank?

Pretty much, yes, though there are some (long inactive) mods from way back that aren't Knights now.

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
And have you guys ever had to strip that rank from users?

No.

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Finally, was metal knight designed firstly as a way to provide more capabilities for trusted users, or was it conceived as a testing ground for staff?

Both.
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Thumbman
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:10 am 
 

Have any of the mods read Noktorn's history of MA posts on his blog? Just wondering how accurate they think it is and if he's full of shit.

http://trialbyordeal666.blogspot.ca/201 ... -half.html
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BastardHead
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:12 am 
 

I'm pretty sure most of the old guard who were actually around at the time hate that because it sorta puts himself at the center of the site's history, as he was wont to do.

Personally, it's interesting to me because my experiences parallel his pretty closely at times. I had made a handful of posts right when I signed up in 2005 and everybody just seemed really hostile. I'm pretty sure I got called a fucking moron and told to get my ears checked because I said Litany was the best Vader album, haha. So I just avoided the forums for a few years until I understood the community a bit better. Like he said, I totally think he was right that the early userbase didn't really appreciate young newcomers all that much and demanded a pound of flesh to be a part of the club.

However he loses me when he says the community was irreversibly changed when people had the audacity to show concern for a long time friend threatening suicide. That's a really childish segment on his part.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:14 am 
 

What do you mean, sorta? It's called "TL;DR History of the Metal Archives" but it opens up talking about him.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:12 pm 
 

noktorn's pretentiousness aside, and keeping his subjective-nacissist perspective in mind: I found his blog posts mildly amusing and enlightening, as well as factually correct - as far as I can tell - and reflective of an apparent bigger trend in more or less underground metal "communities" (oh man I hate this term) on the internet in the last 10+ years.
I've been around for a while too, but mainly stick to the trade and main sections (and the recommendation central since it was established), since these focus on my main interests. that's why I didn't follow most of the MA drama noktorn delineated, but his tales correspond with my experiences on other (mostly black) metal message boards that I have been more involved with through the years.
all the unmodded and hostile, but highly creative and funny anarchy has slowly gotten replaced by a more strictly moderated and more streamlined posting culture. which is perfectly understandable, especially from a moderating or administering pov, because of all the shit such a job entails and that you just don't want to take anymore one day. also, it reflects certain user generations or waves, as noktorn called it, getting older and then fizzling out, and being replaced by new posters who have a vastly different relationship to everything internet. noktorn really has some valid points there.
less underground, more commercialisation regarding metal, and less metal and more social in general, as noktorn put it. it feels to me like most of the space for all kinds of deviation and lots of the playfulness is simply gone. of course this is also me being older now, but I'd say it reflects a bigger trend also. in fact it's a very complex and highly interesting sociological issue with many factors at play, and I'm sure it coincides with a broader cultural scheme we've been experiencing.

most of these experiences were made on other msg boards, but I'm sure that they pertain to the MA too, at least for some of the older users. so what do others think of this?

and a question to the staff, especially those longer in charge: how has the number of bans (forum bans in particular) developed in recent years? I'm really interested in numbers, if you have them, as well as personal opinions. can you still imagine banhammer challlenges in 2017?
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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:10 pm 
 

dystopia4 wrote:
Have any of the mods read Noktorn's history of MA posts on his blog? Just wondering how accurate they think it is and if he's full of shit.

http://trialbyordeal666.blogspot.ca/201 ... -half.html

I stopped reading at that opening line. Man, that vapid moron really couldn't be more of a narcissistic piece of shit now could he

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However he loses me when he says the community was irreversibly changed when people had the audacity to show concern for a long time friend threatening suicide. That's a really childish segment on his part.

Wait what. I guess he could...?
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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:17 pm 
 

Since I've been one of the most active forum mod, the feel and culture of the forum has changed (for the better, I hope?) and yeah such things as the banhammer challenges are not necessary or even adequate to the atmosphere anymore. Sure, some recent political threads gave us some banhammer-esque moments but they're rare occurrences.

The forum isn't perfect but I'd rather have it heavily moderated than tolerate ugly bigotry, homophobia, outright racism. There's no numbers unfortunately but they would be invalid due to the amount of banned spambots we had to deal in the past. With the new Policy for new users (first post on the forum needs to be approved by a moderator), this has solved this issue.
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GTog
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:54 pm 
 

dystopia4 wrote:
Have any of the mods read Noktorn's history of MA posts on his blog? Just wondering how accurate they think it is and if he's full of shit.

http://trialbyordeal666.blogspot.ca/201 ... -half.html


So... MA is worse off for not being populated mostly by deranged shits these days...? And Autothrall ruined his fun by out-reviewing him...?

I've been around a fair piece myself. Not quite how I'd characterize it, not that I've been terribly prolific.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:21 pm 
 

I honestly couldn't get through it, and had to skim it for any valuable points. It's not that it's a tl;dr text (I enjoy those, given that I enjoy writing them, too), but because it's just rhetorical self indulgence.

But to Noktorn's main point... He suffers from what most people tend to suffer from after some time in a single place, which is the belief that the objective "good times" of the place are when they, themselves, were most happy there. In other words, the "Golden Age" of this forum was, without a shadow of a doubt, the exact time that Noktorn was most active. Much of what he says isn't typical of any specific time period so much as it's typical of a user's experiences. He complains at the beginning that the community was hostile towards him, which is something many "newbies" to a community often feel. Hell, I remember feeling it once. I know people today feel it, too. He then waxes poetic about the "good times" which correspond exactly to his own personal "good times" here. He concludes with how a "generation" of people moved on about the same time he did, and how a new "generation" took over that just wasn't the same... like an old guy reflecting on all the young people. This isn't the story of the forum at all. This story isn't even just a narrative of Noktorn's life here. It's the typical trajectory of any person's experience in a community, real or online, where you start off with the hazing, live through the good times, and then lose interest and move on. That's the only value of Noktorn's blog post.

Objectively, there have been changes in the way this community operates and functions, but I wouldn't say they're good or bad changes. Undoubtedly this community has gentrified; the site is a lot older than 10 years ago and the average age of the person who posts here has also probably gone up as the regulars who remain here have gotten older. That's to be expected. It's impacted the discussions here, sure, and perhaps enforcement, too. However, the same narrative Noktorn put out exists for everyone here at varied times throughout this forum's history. Right now someone is experiencing their "good times" and will look back on 2017 as the best time this site ever had.
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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:43 pm 
 

^ Very well put, but I'm also completely unsurprised that a self-absorbed little twit like Noktorn would be so lacking in self-awareness to realize that. :)
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tomcat_ha
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:04 pm 
 

well MA did turn from a interesting, elitist place into more a place for e-friends to hang around and post. Don't think that many posters around 10-15 years ago would have even considered meeting up.
I do miss a few things of how internet culture used to be but compared to most other boards ive been on for ages MA handled the transition from the rough near anarchistic internet times to what is the norm now in a much better way. Heck most forums are dead now with web 2.0.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:42 pm 
 

Can't really comment on the whole of noktorn's piece since yeah there's no way in hell I'm reading through all those words, but just in general since I've been here (which was slightly before noktorn joined)

1. I don't miss the downtime. The site crashes, the lost posts, periodically checking Wikipedia to see if the website was back online.

2. I don't miss Witcher and I know I'm not alone :lol:

3. I do miss the occasional immaturity/hilarity that took place on the boards, I'm not opposed to a good troll now and then, but I prefer the stronger moderation overall. Honestly, the best part about the influx of trolls and shitposting wasn't them, it was Nightgaunt's reaction to them :p . It's better to have a forum that's just adults talking and shooting the bull at the end of the day.

4. With respect to noktorn and what he may remember about the forum's old days, he has stated elsewhere (not here) that a not-insignificant portion of his time here consisted of hazily posting while fumbling through a heroin maze. I'm not really sure how reliable his memory of the forum can be on those grounds alone.

5. UltraBoris was something of a legend at one point but his disappearance was not a momentous watershed moment whose portent everyone understood at the time. It was just some guy not posting anymore, and over time a bunch of his reviews got deleted because they were in point of fact shit. He didn't go off in a blaze of thrash glory, he just moved on to prepare the less impressive boner of traffic sign photography.

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GTog
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:12 pm 
 

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UltraBoris was something of a legend at one point but his disappearance was not a momentous watershed moment whose portent everyone understood at the time. It was just some guy not posting anymore, and over time a bunch of his reviews got deleted because they were in point of fact shit. He didn't go off in a blaze of thrash glory, he just moved on to prepare the less impressive boner of traffic sign photography.


That's... interesting. Why would anyone do that? It's like taking pictures of all the flyover states out the airplane window, but tossing all the pictures of your actual vacation.
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Lich Coldheart
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:58 am 
 

What does "version somethingorother" mean in the literature thread's title?
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Napalm_Satan
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:05 am 
 

As stated in that thread's OP, every time someone made a literature thread it got pushed off the front page rapidly, and that happened a lot.
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Lich Coldheart
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:20 am 
 

Napalm_Satan wrote:
As stated in that thread's OP, every time someone made a literature thread it got pushed off the front page rapidly, and that happened a lot.

I don't know whether or not it's a language barrier, but I still don't get it. :scratch:
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:46 am 
 

"version: something or other"

As in, 2.0? 4.3? 8.1? The thread creator is unsure of the version of the thread because of the frequency at which previous threads disappeared.
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Lich Coldheart
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:16 pm 
 

iamntbatman wrote:
"version: something or other"

As in, 2.0? 4.3? 8.1? The thread creator is unsure of the version of the thread because of the frequency at which previous threads disappeared.

Oh, I see. Thanks a lot. :)
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:14 pm 
 

So, does anyone really enjoy UltraBoris' reviews?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:37 pm 
 

Honestly his review of Cradle of Filth's Damnation and a Day is kind of cool just because it's so out of left-field.
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Boris was certainly integral to me even becoming a reviewer in the first place. They haven't aged well but they're still a fun read on occasion.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:54 pm 
 

Same here. They're by no means a model by which I write mine, but I think he's just absolutely hilarious. That review of Beneath the Remains is gold. Same with the Dark Angel one.

"Thrash you worthless, ignorant sluts!"
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Lich Coldheart
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:36 am 
 

OpsiusCato wrote:
So, does anyone really enjoy UltraBoris' reviews?

No. There are some cool/fun expressions here and there but overall I find his reviews not worth reading. He had that annoying habit of believing the reader is already familiar with the album and reads his review just for the sake of finding out what ol' Boris had to say about it.
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I sometimes exclaim "PREPARE THE LARGE BONER OF THRASH" at inconvenient times during awkward Capitol Hill cocktail parties as a tribute to UltraBoris. The pols are too geriatric and the skinterns too young to understand my sense of humor.



I don't like thrash metal enough to actually enjoy UltraBoris reviews beyond his always adolescent but sometimes amusing turns-of-phrase. I can't imagine how his rejected reviews read if these are his best.

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Earthcubed is Jonah Ryan confirmed.
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iamntbatman wrote:
Earthcubed is Jonah Ryan confirmed.

Who's that guy?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:19 pm 
 

OpsiusCato wrote:
iamntbatman wrote:
Earthcubed is Jonah Ryan confirmed.

Who's that guy?

A character from the TV show VEEP. He's awesome.
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iamntbatman wrote:
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Fucking lol
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:13 am 
 

I'm always amused by people who hate this because of the bands excluded and/or included. I've seen people bitch about this site on other forums, claiming that this site is run by posers because some metalcore or hard rock band got included (ignoring the whole one metal album, and you're in rule). I've seen them bitch about you not including hardcore/noisecore/whatevercore/rock band they want you to. You are both posers and elitist snobs according to these people. So my question to the staff is whats the most hostile, bitter, whiny complaining you ever seen both on site and off site about MA?

The reason I ask is because i came across this only minutes ago http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Qwerty100 ... _metallum/
This guy is extremely bitter and extremely immature about. He don't provide good reasons, just type about how you are all are power metal loving losers and finishes his list with a bitchy rant. I just want to see if you guys have ever seen worse and more pathetic.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:15 am 
 

I'm not even going to waste my time reading it to know if I've seen worse or more pathetic. Pretty amusing that people expend that kind of energy and thought towards something petty like that, though.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:16 am 
 

Well, I noticed that he gave it the tag humor, but still, you don't make a huge ass list like that and rant on just for the sake of a joke.

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