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Subrick
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:10 pm 
 

mjollnir wrote:
So did a bunch of you just get an email from some user called Piotr? Lol I got one and did see a bunch of usernames I recall in the CC.


I did last week. The email itself was an English teacher's worst nightmare, and it gave me a good chuckle.
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Slater922
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:39 pm 
 

I've been thinking about starting a "Death Album Ranking" thread on the Metal Discussions forum, but I'm not sure if I should do it. The album ranking thread is next to dead at this point, and I really wished I did it while it was still going strong. Oh well, better not to beat on a dead horse.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:39 am 
 

This might interest a couple of you - archaeologists resurrecting an 18,000 year old shell horn (the sounds it makes are interesting too).

https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/02/listen-to-haunting-notes-from-an-18000-year-old-conch-shell-trumpet/?comments=1
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:57 pm 
 

Horse conch. That's a big cool snail.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:03 pm 
 

This week's edition of The Best Thing to Have Ever Been Posted to YouTube:

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:18 pm 
 

Zelkiiro wrote:
This week's edition of The Best Thing to Have Ever Been Posted to YouTube:


A combo of two of my favorite things? Hell yeah! :love: :headbang:
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Vadara
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:17 pm 
 

I have noticed an extremely baffling phenomenon when it comes to modern rock bands. Racing games are probably my favorite genre of game, and they basically always have licensed soundtracks since the days of the PS2. No problem, a lot of my faves have pretty good soundtracks. The phenomenon I've noticed though is that when I look up a lot of the bands featured in the games, all of their songs will sound nothing like the one song that got licensed for the game. Take this song by Saving Abel for instance; it's on the Motorstorm Pacific Rift soundtrack and it's a pretty rockin' southern rock song. Fits with the game perfectly.



I decided to look up the actual album this song is from and holy shit. Nearly every song on it is incredibly fucking terrible vaguely-country twangy sappy southern rock ballads and vaguely-southern pop rock. The vocalist doesn't even sound like he does on New Tattoo. I won't torment your ears with it but sweet baby jesus, what the hell. This happens so often. These racing games get the one not-shit song on these semi-obscure 2000's rock albums and when I check out the bands the rest of their discography is terrible and sounds nothing like the one song the racing game snagged.

Like Crazy Taxi got All I Want by the Offspring and it's a good song, but the rest of the album it's from is just...not good. It's baffling.

I had a similar situation when I learned that Burnout snagged the two good Yellowcard songs and that everything else they made was terrible shitty ballads.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:10 pm 
 

Vadara wrote:
Like Crazy Taxi got All I Want by the Offspring and it's a good song, but the rest of the album it's from is just...not good. It's baffling.


Aw come on Ixnay also has Cool to Hate and The Meaning of Life! The Offspring has loads of legit songs even on their worst albums that people seem to not know about purely because the singles are so different and so much worse. Splinter has Da Hui and Lightning Rod and even Days Go By has Dividing By Zero and Slim Pickens Does the Right Thing and Rides the Bomb to Hell buried at the end.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:14 pm 
 

In today's example of "Facebook's TOS algorithm is completely broken", I got a 3 day ban just now for saying "Goatwhore" in a comment. Like, I instantly got the notification maybe 10 seconds after I hit enter. Not surprising, considering this is a site that lets racial slurs sit unopposed and open for the public to read.
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EzraBlumenfeld
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:33 pm 
 

Subrick wrote:
In today's example of "Facebook's TOS algorithm is completely broken", I got a 3 day ban just now for saying "Goatwhore" in a comment.


Goatwhore.

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Like, I instantly got the notification maybe 10 seconds after I hit enter. Not surprising, considering this is a site that lets racial slurs sit unopposed and open for the public to read.


Yeah, they let racial slurs go unanswered but will throw you in Facebook Jail for using the phrase "white people" with even the slightest negative connotation. Zuckerberg really has his priorities straight.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:31 pm 
 

One of the cats just climbed across my keyboard & wiped out 30 minutes of quite complicated IFERROR/IFAND/IFISBLANK/ function nesting. TONIGHT WE FEAST ON SMALL AMOUNTS OF MEAT.
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Slater922
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:34 pm 
 

Subrick wrote:
In today's example of "Facebook's TOS algorithm is completely broken", I got a 3 day ban just now for saying "Goatwhore" in a comment. Like, I instantly got the notification maybe 10 seconds after I hit enter. Not surprising, considering this is a site that lets racial slurs sit unopposed and open for the public to read.

That reminded me of a time when Facebook was giving people 30 day bans just for posting Burzum songs. This one didn't even make any sense, since the user was posting a dark ambient song from him.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:11 pm 
 

Facebook, like most companies, exists to make money. And it’s average user is a white American, older than average. They’re going to cater to that.

I deleted my Facebook page, almost 10 years ago. It wasn’t accomplishing the goal, which was to egotistically get attention. Some people, back then, when Facebook was mostly young people, can’t speak for what it’s like now, were allowing others to take photos of them, shitfaced drunk, and it got posted on there. This is despite these people having probation terms of “don’t use alcohol,” and they were genuinely surprised, when there probation officers told them that they didn’t believe they were getting sober, or not associating with other gang members.

Social media isn’t real. It’s cherry picked moments of life. And if you are “friends” with 500 people you went to high school with, those aren’t real friends!

I fully expect someone to chime in with some smartass “lol, old man yells at clouds” nonsense. But, I’m winning, every day I don’t use it. Because I’m at work, in the break room, right now, and I’m wasting time on this forum instead.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:14 pm 
 

It's all about how you use it like anything else. Social media, smart phones, all that stuff can either be used in a good or bad way; you just have to figure out what works for you. That's really it.
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Cosmic_Equilibrium
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:01 pm 
 

^ Basically.

FB is useful because the Messenger function has replaced texting, and it's basically the only way I can keep in touch with various people.

Twitter is a cesspool, but that is because people use it for political debate, and it's just about the worst platform in the world for that. The setup and character limits neuter in depth discussion and encourage people to say something pithy instead. What Twitter is useful for is as a live bulletin service providing minute by minute updates - very good for Parliamentary debates reporting, unfolding news stories, and travel disruptions/service updates. During the recent US elections I followed the Arizona vote count via a couple of local journalists/bloggers who were posting regular statistical information as the votes came in, without any kind of charged opinionated comment.

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Hexenmacht46290
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:03 pm 
 

What works for me, is that I just don’t use it. I don’t play video games either. I’m not going to tell someone that that’s necessary, or the ideal way to live, but I won’t do it. It saddens me, to see friends, or couples, sitting at the same table, in the break room, and not talking, but looking at their phones. Someone I used to work with talked about cutting back on video games, to 3 hours a day, saying that it wasn’t that much, because he had done 16 before. I was shocked that he even had 3 hours to waste, everyday. I’ve spent time dissociating, with electronic distractions, too much time. I spent most of the free time in my childhood, watching TV, and I’ll regret it, forever. People need to understand, social media sites weren’t created because they wanted to help you, or are your friends. Like everything else, they only care about the money, and if they help the spread of stupidity and extremism, they don’t care, whatever keeps you looking at ads.

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Slater922
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:42 pm 
 

Cosmic_Equilibrium wrote:
Twitter is a cesspool, but that is because people use it for political debate, and it's just about the worst platform in the world for that. The setup and character limits neuter in depth discussion and encourage people to say something pithy instead. What Twitter is useful for is as a live bulletin service providing minute by minute updates - very good for Parliamentary debates reporting, unfolding news stories, and travel disruptions/service updates. During the recent US elections I followed the Arizona vote count via a couple of local journalists/bloggers who were posting regular statistical information as the votes came in, without any kind of charged opinionated comment.

It's why I stopped using Twitter years ago. There's just too much toxicity and drama there.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:16 pm 
 

I made the mistake of reading political conversations and updates on an evolving situation via Twitter about two years ago (I don't have an account myself). After spending three days in bed unable to stop doomscrolling and worrying, I basically decided not to go near it ever again apart from when I need a rolling update on something very key (like train services, or the results for Arizona counties).

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:50 pm 
 

I don't use Twitter, and when I did it was solely to post live commentary of wrestling shows. I do occasionally open the app in the event of needing/wanting moment-by-moment coverage of major events, such as the BLM protests or the Capitol invasion, but beyond that, it's just an app icon on my phone that is perpetually ignored.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:20 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
It's all about how you use it like anything else. Social media, smart phones, all that stuff can either be used in a good or bad way; you just have to figure out what works for you. That's really it.


This is arguably true of simple tools or devices; it is not true of complex systems like "social media." Social media is an instrument of capitalist power; it is not a value neutral "tool."
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kalervon
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:46 pm 
 

It is amazing how disabling Facebook from my phone has improved my life. I still have messenger on my phone though.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:56 pm 
 

Sedition and Pockets wrote:
Empyreal wrote:
It's all about how you use it like anything else. Social media, smart phones, all that stuff can either be used in a good or bad way; you just have to figure out what works for you. That's really it.


This is arguably true of simple tools or devices; it is not true of complex systems like "social media." Social media is an instrument of capitalist power; it is not a value neutral "tool."


I use it to keep in touch with friends and be a part of a community I cultivated over years. I know the companies have done fucked up shit, but they're also pretty intertwined with digital socializing, news dispersing, conversation, etc so I didn't just up and quit them. But what I said was what I meant, in that it doesn't have to be this toxic thing - I just close the window or don't look at it if it's bothering me.

Hexenmacht46290 wrote:
What works for me, is that I just don’t use it. I don’t play video games either. I’m not going to tell someone that that’s necessary, or the ideal way to live, but I won’t do it. It saddens me, to see friends, or couples, sitting at the same table, in the break room, and not talking, but looking at their phones. Someone I used to work with talked about cutting back on video games, to 3 hours a day, saying that it wasn’t that much, because he had done 16 before. I was shocked that he even had 3 hours to waste, everyday. I’ve spent time dissociating, with electronic distractions, too much time. I spent most of the free time in my childhood, watching TV, and I’ll regret it, forever. People need to understand, social media sites weren’t created because they wanted to help you, or are your friends. Like everything else, they only care about the money, and if they help the spread of stupidity and extremism, they don’t care, whatever keeps you looking at ads.


I spent my childhood a pretty even mix of games or TV and being with friends. As I got older it became necessary to have social media around to keep in touch as everyone moved around - by no means do we all live anywhere close anymore. And it's just good to connect and talk with others, some of whom I never met. Everyone'll have different reasons. Everything we like from music to movies to sports or whatever is about money at some level. That's just how shitty our society is at some levels. Not a reason to write it all off.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:43 am 
 

kalervon wrote:
It is amazing how disabling Facebook from my phone has improved my life. I still have messenger on my phone though.


This for me - I never was a twitter / instagram / whatever user, never got the point of them - but Facebook just ended up as a feed of political loons, advertising, and those people you just didn't want to "re-connect" with. Weirdly, a lot of my peer group have gone back to phone calls / days out together / actually sending each other physical cards & things.

The great trick Facebook played was normalizing non-anonymity on the internet. When I was very young and first online (via pay-per-minute dial-up) it was very much the fag end of that handles & hackers culture online, no-one expected (or largely wanted) to have a 'real' life laid out in-front of them. Facebook making that normal has done a great deal of harm to social norms regarding privacy and the expectation of privacy. Try explaining to someone under 25 in this country that 'ID cards are an invasive nonesense', and you'll be told "well, it's all already on Facebook/Insta/Twitter/whatevr, isn't it ?". I'm actually quite happy to see Apple beating Facebook with a great big privacy stick.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:01 am 
 

I deleted facebook in spring 2014 and never looked back. I remember for like, the first 3 days, ACTUALLY not knowing what to do with my hands in moments of idleness. After that, I didn't miss it at all. I saw a family member logged into the web version of facebook last week, and didn't recognize the outlay at all.

The only social media I have is Instagram, and on the tab of "daily use", my average time per day is below 5 minutes. I'm not trying to be holier than thou, if you enjoy using social media, that's great. I just realize how negative it was in my life, so I ditched it for the most part.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:46 pm 
 

Apparently a new Rammstein album is coming. Just read this on Wikipedia:

The band finished writing and recording their 8th album during the pandemic.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:04 pm 
 

Unity wrote:
Apparently a new Rammstein album is coming. Just read this on Wikipedia:

The band finished writing and recording their 8th album during the pandemic.

Now THAT is something to look forward to in 2021.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:08 pm 
 

I do this Ladder Match thing on my blog where I take two completely different bands and rank them against each other to see who is better based on arbitrary math, and when Rammstein released their last album I said "Oh hey now they and Death both have seven albums and I can write up a matchup really quickly since I'm super familiar with both discographies and don't need to relisten to much". Then I got lazy and it's been sitting in a draft with like three entries to go and now all the sudden they're actually releasing a new one in a reasonable timeframe.

Always happy to get more Rammstein but come on guys, facilitate my laziness and be slow again!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:51 pm 
 

Remember a Hungarian band AWS that shook up the Eurovision shitshow with guitars? Their singer passed away from leukaemia (。╯︵╰。), age 29. I don't listen to AWS, and have just found out the news by watching a cover of their song by Phrenia, a band I follow on Youtube.
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When it comes to social media, I have never had facebook, twitter, instagram or similar stuff, just my LinkedIn account and blog. I hate social media culture and selfie trends (''look at my face!'' ''look at my coffee cup!'') and I'm glad I'm able to save my goth face and love for diabolic arts from online attacks.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:26 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
I spent my childhood a pretty even mix of games or TV and being with friends. As I got older it became necessary to have social media around to keep in touch as everyone moved around - by no means do we all live anywhere close anymore. And it's just good to connect and talk with others, some of whom I never met. Everyone'll have different reasons. Everything we like from music to movies to sports or whatever is about money at some level. That's just how shitty our society is at some levels. Not a reason to write it all off.


Like I said, I don’t tell everyone that they must live the way I do. But it isn’t good for me. I’ve used tobacco, which is supposed to be more addictive than opioids, and I don’t feel the need to use it. I don’t want to ever use an opioid, because I’m scared I would like it, and didn’t use to pills I was given, after getting my wisdom teeth removed. I’ve never been addicted to any drug, but I’ve been addicted to clickbait and video games, and other electronic stuff. And yes, I’m somewhat of a hypocrite, for typing this on a forum.

The problem isn’t the desire for money, but the level of greed, and what they’ll do to get it. And most importantly, the understanding that that’s what motivates them, not helping you. I’ll pay bands ticket and merch money, and alcohol money, to the venue, in exchange for entertainment. If you use such things, I’d recommend researching the privacy settings, and being willing to say no to certain friend requests. I didn’t want everything I posted, shown to everyone, all the time. Researching how to limit what was shown, to who, was just a drain on my time. I’ve thought about getting onto something, for keeping in touch with people(the ones that aren’t out of my life for a reason), but I wouldn’t be showing my real life, it’d be fake, and so would theirs.

But, what should be remembered, is that these sites need your attention. They cannot get much of it by showing you something positive. News media knows if it bleeds, it leads, and some platform that requires your attention, is going to be biased towards the negative, which becomes a problem, when ignorant people are following each other. Also, keeps me from awkward, “why don’t you friend me” conversations. If I’d just have to censor myself all the time, then I’d rather not.

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The best part about Facebook actually came to me within the last 12 months: I got to find out who within my social hemisphere and local area came out as an authoritarian apologist, raging bigot, and/or conspiracy nutjob so I can blacklist them from my life for good. They certainly didn't do a good job hiding that.
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Osore wrote:
When it comes to social media, I have never had facebook, twitter, instagram or similar stuff, just my LinkedIn account and blog. I hate social media culture and selfie trends (''look at my face!'' ''look at my coffee cup!'') and I'm glad I'm able to save my goth face and love for diabolic arts from online attacks.



Of course I find it really appalling to see people dickriding themselves on the Internet, but don't write off social media as a whole. This forum is a form of online socialization, albeit more respectful to privacy and everybody's personality.

I would recommend you to read the book "Digital Minimalism" by Cal Newport. It will give you many points to agree on, points that I too support about how social media feeds our ego and our brain. On the other hand it proposes a way for someone to use social media to his benefit. That is the way I do it.

I have an Instagram account but I log in only from my desktop and only from secure browsers like Duckduckgo or Brave. I log in once every month or when a major motorsport event is taking place. I only follow a handful of friends but mostly I follow people from my hobbies - motorsport drivers, musicians and producers, programmers etc. -. On Facebook I only use the Messanger function to communicate with my friends and my sister who doesn't fucking pick up her bloody phone ever. :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: .
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:59 am 
 

Wilytank wrote:
The best part about Facebook actually came to me within the last 12 months: I got to find out who within my social hemisphere and local area came out as an authoritarian apologist, raging bigot, and/or conspiracy nutjob so I can blacklist them from my life for good. They certainly didn't do a good job hiding that.



I have always wondered why the FUCK are people arguing about politics on Facebook. Especially now that most teenagers and people in their 20 somethings have moved to Instagram FB is flooded with racist/politically incoherent copy pastas by 50 year old grampy dudes...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:38 am 
 

My friends and I always joke that Facebook went to shit when our parents found out about it. It quickly went from a place to share pictures and connect with friends to a political cesspool.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:55 pm 
 

I’ve never changed my mind on something because of internet arguments. I’ve done so, from reading actual writing, with a lot of evidence, or from events in real life.

Still, everyone who disagrees with me on anything, especially music, is lame.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:54 pm 
 

Today I Learned: The actual photo to the cover of Darkthrone's Transilvanian Hunger is even more creepy than the final product!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:42 pm 
 

Methuen wrote:
The great trick Facebook played was normalizing non-anonymity on the internet.
True. We've heard about Cambridge Analytica, echo chambers, Social Dilemma.. but each of these problems, as bad as they may be, overlook this primordial fact.

In the 90s, only a handful of people had the patience to chat, discuss on BBS and alt.newsgroups. They would seldom reveal their identity, but they usually resorted to a handle/nickname. Sometimes you could make out their identity if they used their college's email address, but even then, the email address would nomally contain some cryptic handle, not the full.name

Only people with a certain level of patience, not to mention basic computer knowledge, were often online in those days.

Then things got easier: Wifi, cell phones.. but to convince people to show who they were online, with their full name and face picture, it took Facebook. It also took the selfie culure, so the advent of the modern cell phone was instrumental.

I remember in the mid 2000s, when newspaper and other media websites started adding comment sections to their news pages, most people were still using handles or fake names. And then we started seeing a lot of racist, bigot and hateful comments. I remember a lot of people saying: "All those keyboard warriors are protected by anonymity.. they would never dare display those behaviours publicly"... Boy were they wrong !! We quickly found out a few years later that was not the case.

The whole 'echo chamber' thing was not a problem for me on Facebook. I 'liked' and 'followed' a bunch of news outlets, even some media known to be conservative (Postmedia, Sun News), in addition to scientific news outlets and universities. The opposite of an echo chamber happened. Every single piece of news, no matter where it was published, was followed by a shitload of negative comments climate-denying, gun-toting, left-communist/amalgamating, racist, etc... comments. It was like a constant torrent of shit. Even some news reported by right-of-centre media were sometimes criticized for being too 'left' (not that I adhere to a left/right worldview, but that's how most people chose to portray everything), and soon even the Toronto Sun became 'MSM' in the light of those keyboard warriors.

At first I thought I could play it cool and take 'snipe' shots at some comments that were ludicrously wrong and confront people with facts they could not deny. But I quickly found out truth does not matter for those people. And a cold feeling started growing inside of me that I actually started resenting that these people even breathed the same air that I did.

It wasn't echo chamber, it wasn't "doomscrolling".. it was just me losing faith in humanity and being reminded too often how many idiots live on this Earth. Now I know.. I know it's lots.. I know being right is not enough. But I don't need a constant reminder.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:05 pm 
 

"Adam's Song" by Blink 182 hits different at 28 than at 13 when I first heard it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:07 am 
 

ObservationSlave wrote:
My friends and I always joke that Facebook went to shit when our parents found out about it. It quickly went from a place to share pictures and connect with friends to a political cesspool.



And this is the main reason that Facebook bought Instagram. They knew that Instagram would blow up even more and take away their function of a social platform with photos etc.

I think that it really works on their benefits that people argue on comments about everything basically. It keeps their feed and their posts and the whole site alive. But for me it just made it not so appealing. I like the whole idea of shitpost groups - most of them are certained around series and games I like - but many of them, including pages, are just a honeycomb of troll feeding idiots who think their opinion matters on the Internet.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:10 am 
 

Hexenmacht46290 wrote:
I’ve never changed my mind on something because of internet arguments. I’ve done so, from reading actual writing, with a lot of evidence, or from events in real life.

Still, everyone who disagrees with me on anything, especially music, is lame.



THIS

I hate the fact that we rely so much on the Internet to gather knowledge. Sure it is really handy to watch a tutorial on Youtube or search for a textbook that costs an arm and a leg on Library Genesis but forming your opinions based on articles written in 2011 by some random person on Facebook is lame.

Also I don't know why but everything on the Internet has a "tl;dr" vision to my eyes.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:48 am 
 

The biggest trick social media pulled out was to take people off the streets and rant/"riot" online, where is absolutely meaningless.

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