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Dembo
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:55 am 
 

Zdan wrote:
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This Black Mark Production page on Bandcamp can't be official, right? I'm no expert on Bathory/Black Mark but to my knowledge the label haven't been run by anyone since back in the day.

https://blackmarkproduction.bandcamp.com/


What is the issue here?

Who would officially run that page if the label hasn't been run by anyone in many years? And to only put up one of their many albums?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:57 am 
 

Yeah if nothing else I'd like to buy some of those Bathory albums after the debut.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:59 am 
 

It would be nice to see those Bathory albums get a proper reissue. The 2004 ones with the merged tracks are awful.

I'm curious to holds the rights to Black Mark Production's back catalogue now.

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Dembo
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:39 am 
 

Well now there's two albums on there...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:58 am 
 

I made it to 666 posts! When does MA ship me my complimentary goats skull and basket of exotic cheeses?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:19 am 
 

MRmehman wrote:
I made it to 666 posts! When does MA ship me my complimentary goats skull and basket of exotic cheeses?


I could use some exotic cheeses too... but I passed my 666 post a looong time ago.. :grumble:


So I'm listening to Lingua Ignota's Sinner Get Ready, and man- she is just insanely deadass talented. Some real top tier shit. Her incredibly passionate vocals pour perfectly over a wide range of instruments in a way that so few people can convincingly do. It doesn't feel pretentious, but I feel like every other person performing in this way would come across as pretentious.

That said, I'm listening to this while being in a pretty good mood (and after listening to Porter Robinson's new album, which is a 180 on the musical mood spectrum) so it doesn't really click as powerfully as it probably should. Like, this is music you listen to when you're at an incredible low. But man- if I did? Dunno if I'd ever come out of that state. Would be akin to being stuck in a hole, looking up into the sky, and thinking "nah, I think I'll go 200 feet deeper".

She's so good at what she does, that it makes it downright hard to listen to at the moments where you'd connect to it the most.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:21 am 
 

MRmehman wrote:
I made it to 666 posts! When does MA ship me my complimentary goats skull and basket of exotic cheeses?

As customary, they will arrive within 666 hours of achieving your milestone. I do not recommend putting the goat skulls atop your own though, they cannot be removed and give terrible cravings for human flesh.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:24 pm 
 

Dembo wrote:
This Black Mark Production page on Bandcamp can't be official, right? I'm no expert on Bathory/Black Mark but to my knowledge the label haven't been run by anyone since back in the day.

https://blackmarkproduction.bandcamp.com/


Someone waited for Black Mark domain names to expire, then registered them, and is now pretending to be the label. It appears to be someone in South America. It seems Boss/Quorthon's family is not active in managing their catalogues/brands/affairs so this is going unchallenged right now.

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DanielG06
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:09 pm 
 

Dembo wrote:
Zdan wrote:
Dembo wrote:
This Black Mark Production page on Bandcamp can't be official, right? I'm no expert on Bathory/Black Mark but to my knowledge the label haven't been run by anyone since back in the day.

https://blackmarkproduction.bandcamp.com/


What is the issue here?

Who would officially run that page if the label hasn't been run by anyone in many years? And to only put up one of their many albums?


I believe Quorthon's dad still runs the label.

Edit: apparently The Boss hasn't been actively managing the label for a while. It probably is a bootlegger then.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:17 pm 
 

Boss died back in 2017. Not a clue who owns the rights to BMP's back catalogue now.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:24 pm 
 

Somebody REALLY REALLY should look into buying the back catalogue of BMP. Why? Because the CD editions of early Bathory albums are a fuckin' remixed, botched to hell mess. Someone really should reissue those properly. There are bootleges but...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:45 pm 
 

Having a version of Hammerheart without all the clipping/distortion would be nice. I was always under the assumption it just had a lousy production and accepted it for what it was.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:53 pm 
 

Its sad that Bathory seem to be going out like this. I figured the label was inactive but I didn't realise it was this inactive. I figured Quorthon's sister or someone else in the family was still keeping an eye on things but clearly not.

Also yes, please reissue all the Bathory albums in either their original mix or a new one that doesn't sound butchered to hell and back. I've listened to these albums for years on the shitty 2004 CD mixes and their still some of my favorites. I'd love to hear these album as people heard them at the time.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:05 pm 
 

Weirdly enough, BMP repressed some Edge of Sanity vinyls last year. Unless they're bootlegs...

Guess that must be similar to GUN releasing some Running Wild vinyls 2 years ago (despite that label being dead for over a decade).

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Zdan
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:23 pm 
 

Deadened wrote:
Having a version of Hammerheart without all the clipping/distortion would be nice. I was always under the assumption it just had a lousy production and accepted it for what it was.


There is a CD version of Hammerheart that sounds really good - I just do not remember which one. One of the early CD pressings.

As for the early Bathory discs - if the bootleggers can do it correctly and use the original mixes then it really is a damn shame nobody can do PROPER CD reissues of those. A band like Bathory really deserves better.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:46 pm 
 

I've seen a version on Noise Records floating around, maybe that's the one? I'll have to snag it next time I see it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:27 pm 
 

Deadened wrote:
Boss died back in 2017. Not a clue who owns the rights to BMP's back catalogue now.


Shit man, R.I.P.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:30 pm 
 

MRmehman wrote:
Its sad that Bathory seem to be going out like this. I figured the label was inactive but I didn't realise it was this inactive. I figured Quorthon's sister or someone else in the family was still keeping an eye on things but clearly not.

I'm not really sure what's up with who controls Bathory's catalogue, but whoever's doing it needs to step down and let someone else do it. I own some of the BMP CDs of Bathory, and I personally don't find them as terrible as others are saying, but I would love to hear the songs in a better quality. Only time will tell if we actually do get that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:40 pm 
 

Slater922 wrote:
MRmehman wrote:
Its sad that Bathory seem to be going out like this. I figured the label was inactive but I didn't realise it was this inactive. I figured Quorthon's sister or someone else in the family was still keeping an eye on things but clearly not.

I'm not really sure what's up with who controls Bathory's catalogue, but whoever's doing it needs to step down and let someone else do it. I own some of the BMP CDs of Bathory, and I personally don't find them as terrible as others are saying, but I would love to hear the songs in a better quality. Only time will tell if we actually do get that.


I also did not mind the Black Mark CD's and then I got my hand on some bootlegs that featured the original vinyl mixes. I got angry as hell because BMP was selling people clearly inferior shitty sounding versions of these classic albums.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:25 am 
 

Stuff like that is part of why I stopped collecting physical albums. It isn't always easy to track down CDs, especially from European labels, and then it might sound worse than the mp3s you downloaded.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:02 am 
 

I think one of the worst things is buying an expensive Japanese pressing, only to find out it has a lossy master (this happened to me twice).

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:05 am 
 

Deadened wrote:
I think one of the worst things is buying an expensive Japanese pressing, only to find out it has a lossy master (this happened to me twice).


This may happen but it is NEARLY impossible with early Japanese pressings. These usually have unique masterings and are not lossy. In some cases they have certain problems that would make you choose another edition but that is normal. As usual with expensive pressings it is a case-by-case basis and research needs to be done. There are certain labels that you can buy with nearly 100% security.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:27 am 
 

MRmehman wrote:
Its sad that Bathory seem to be going out like this. I figured the label was inactive but I didn't realise it was this inactive. I figured Quorthon's sister or someone else in the family was still keeping an eye on things but clearly not.

Also yes, please reissue all the Bathory albums in either their original mix or a new one that doesn't sound butchered to hell and back. I've listened to these albums for years on the shitty 2004 CD mixes and their still some of my favorites. I'd love to hear these album as people heard them at the time.


If i remember correctly the label was often accused of caring little for the signed bands even when it was actively managed, a crappy situation like this doesn't really surprise me

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:35 am 
 

With BMP I can understand not caring about OTHER signed bands but doing this to Bathory?! Really?! "Boss" was the owner of BMP so doing this to the music of his own son really does boggle the mind.

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Zdan wrote:
With BMP I can understand not caring about OTHER signed bands but doing this to Bathory?! Really?! "Boss" was the owner of BMP so doing this to the music of his own son really does boggle the mind.


I know, but if the label was little managed even when Boss was alive there are high probabilities that no one is taking care of the business right now... which is a huge shame, considering the historical value and quality of their catalog :(

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:08 am 
 

Well - some of the BMP catalogue seems to be getting licensed reissues announced so we can only hope that someday the early Bathory catalogue will get the proper reissue treatment.

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Am I the only one scratching my head at the large amount of necro threads in the Tavern lately, seemingly all by one user?
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Lord_Of_Diamonds wrote:
Am I the only one scratching my head at the large amount of necro threads in the Tavern lately, seemingly all by one user?

No, and I was thinking about reporting that...
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Zdan wrote:
Deadened wrote:
I think one of the worst things is buying an expensive Japanese pressing, only to find out it has a lossy master (this happened to me twice).


This may happen but it is NEARLY impossible with early Japanese pressings. These usually have unique masterings and are not lossy. In some cases they have certain problems that would make you choose another edition but that is normal. As usual with expensive pressings it is a case-by-case basis and research needs to be done. There are certain labels that you can buy with nearly 100% security.


Yeah, I think its more of a mid-00s to present thing, and usually on smaller labels/unknown bands (Masterstroke "Sleep", Moonville "Silver Screen" and Death Dealer "War Master" were the offenders, in case anyone is interested). I guess if the production sounds really off, doesn't hurt to put a flac in audacity and check spectrals.

I have had one instance where there was a mastering defect (skip/clicking) on a Japanese pressing where I don't recall it in on the Euro pressing (Misanthrope "Sadistic Sex Daemon"). Conversely, I've seen Japanese pressings completely free of defects on the Euro pressing. I remember my Euro-pressing of Rage "21" had some clicking between tracks, which were thankfully absent on the Japanese one. I could've had a botched pressing too, that shit does happen sometimes.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:58 pm 
 

If you really want some examples of proper Japanese pressing look no further than the first pressing of Holy Terror's "Terror and Submission". That is the only non-remastered pressing that has no defects and skips before the most recent reissues. But - to flip the coin - the Japanese early pressing of Armored Saint's "Delirious Nomad" has a light pop at the beginning of "Nervous Man" - only detectable on good headphones. The American Chrysalis pressings sound better than Japanese ones in the case of Armored Saint. As said - it is on a case-by-case basis in the case of old pressings. For example - the early Destruction Steamhammer pressing are more dynamic but sound flat as hell. The Japanese two-on-one are a little less dynamic but sound more punchy and powerful with sounding too compressed. I go on and on with this...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:46 pm 
 

EvergreenSherbert wrote:
Lord_Of_Diamonds wrote:
Am I the only one scratching my head at the large amount of necro threads in the Tavern lately, seemingly all by one user?

No, and I was thinking about reporting that...

Yeah, it's a little weird. How far back to you have to go to find threads that old anyway?
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Snorre, why did you name your long-awaited second album "Tony Martin"?
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Snorre, why did you name your long-awaited second album "Tony Martin"?

Damn, I got really excited at a glance and thought we were actually getting a second Thorns album. Please don't break my heart like that again. :lol:
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:03 pm 
 

CreepingDeath16 wrote:
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Snorre, why did you name your long-awaited second album "Tony Martin"?

Guess he really wanted to express his love for Tony Martin that badly! :lol:
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:08 am 
 

People laugh but they really should give that Tony Martin album a shot. In place it is REALLY heavy stuff ;)

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After a lot of listening, my favorite Motorhead songs on the albums I know have to be "Capricorn" followed by "I Got Mine."
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Empyreal wrote:
After a lot of listening, my favorite Motorhead songs on the albums I know have to be "Capricorn" followed by "I Got Mine."


Ah. Give a shot to "Burner", "Death or Glory" or an absolute crusher in "Orgasmatron" (which is not a typical Motor track).

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Ah I've heard all those. They have a lot of good stuff for sure.
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Empyreal wrote:
Ah I've heard all those. They have a lot of good stuff for sure.


Then shoot for some stuff that is later - "Buried Alive", "Brotherhood of Man" (this one is THE THING!) and "God Was Never On Your Side".

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