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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:55 am 
 

DoomMetalAlchemist wrote:
Astronomica's cool, didn't get into Strange and Beautiful.

If I remember correctly, the reviews on MA for Astronomica were largely negative on Wade Black's vocals, but his vocals might be my favorite aspect of the album.


Wade Black is killer... only issue is just that he wasn't Midnight. It's always hard to measure up to that kind of thing.

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You have a fave from Transcendence?


Probably "In Dark Places," amazing bass groove. But it's an album where I don't think I could list a weak track.

Dungeon_Vic wrote:
Astronomica was surprisingly good. I would rate Touch the Sun as a Transcedence caliber song.


Yeah good song... that one, the title song, Edge of Forever and Cydonia I like a lot. Lucifer's Hammer is a good heavy assault too.

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Jeff Lords' boss ass bass tone really makes Astronomica for me


Yeah - really one of the better produced metal albums I can think of, everything sounds fantastic. Great bass tone indeed.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:15 am 
 

Good morning, friends. How is your day going?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:17 am 
 

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Good morning, friends. How is your day going?

Learning to tie a turban, which is rather frustrating, but other than that, fairly good. Enjoying a rainy tuesday afternoon.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:53 pm 
 

Finished a MONSTROUS book translation and just chilling and writing some video game reviews (for money!).

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:55 pm 
 

Am I the only one who feels frustrated at how relatively mediocre Piece of Mind is? Some fine moments, and it’s sandwiched between two classics of the classic era so I guess it’s understandable. But man, Quest for Fire and Sun and Steel are so filler!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:12 am 
 

One of my favorite albums they ever did actually.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:48 am 
 

Where Eagles Dare..pretty good, especially that heavy psychedelic guitar solo. Revelations is alright, but sounds too much like Children of the Damned. Let’s see..Flight of Icarus is ok-ish but annoyingly anthemic. The Trooper has deserved its status as a permanent mainstay on all subsequent live set lists. I appreciate the effort of To Tame a Land as another epic album closer by them, but it’s no way better than the other ones like Rime or Alexander.

I just don’t like how boringly mid-tempo the whole record is. It seems they aimed to write a few numbers geared toward concert material and fudged the rest of it with filler.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:47 am 
 

IMO, Still Life is unsung IM anthem that deserves to be played live constantly.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:28 am 
 

marktheviktor wrote:
Am I the only one who feels frustrated at how relatively mediocre Piece of Mind is? Some fine moments, and it’s sandwiched between two classics of the classic era so I guess it’s understandable. But man, Quest for Fire and Sun and Steel are so filler!

Powerslave is way better, unironically. Piece of Mind only has a few memorable songs and I think people hold it up so highly only because it's the album with The Trooper on it.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:36 am 
 

Someday I will revisit the IM discography but lately I have been sticking to the Di'Anno albums (and assorted singles) - which are my absolute favourites from the band - and my unsung hero of the discography - The X Factor. I know the Bruce Bruce stuff by heart and I do not feel the need to revisit it anytime soon. If I feel like listening to him I would rather put on Chemical Wedding any day of the week.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:36 pm 
 

Megatokyo wrote:
marktheviktor wrote:
Am I the only one who feels frustrated at how relatively mediocre Piece of Mind is? Some fine moments, and it’s sandwiched between two classics of the classic era so I guess it’s understandable. But man, Quest for Fire and Sun and Steel are so filler!

Powerslave is way better, unironically. Piece of Mind only has a few memorable songs and I think people hold it up so highly only because it's the album with The Trooper on it.


Nah the first six songs or so are some of their best tracks, and the last few are also very good.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:43 pm 
 

I can hear classic songs on each Maiden album...

I take 'Fear of the Dark' as newer 'Killers': loads of variety and many songs. Both have awesomeness, but also some lesser songs.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:37 am 
 

I've got my cheese playlist on shuffle and huh the riff from "Hey, Hey, Helen" by Abba is kinda similar to the riff from Living After Midnight xD
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:20 am 
 

Just hit 3000 points and am happier than I have any real right to be.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:37 pm 
 

cmg92 wrote:
Just hit 3000 points and am happier than I have any real right to be.

Congrats! I'm getting closer to hitting 1000 points, so I can't wait to eventually hit that goal!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:34 am 
 

Slater922 wrote:
cmg92 wrote:
Just hit 3000 points and am happier than I have any real right to be.

Congrats! I'm getting closer to hitting 1000 points, so I can't wait to eventually hit that goal!


Thank you - Congrats in advance then!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:49 pm 
 

Got almost ready to present my thesis… aaaaanndd my professor wants some "last changes" which include me scrapping almost an entire chapter, rewriting two sections and running my simulations again…
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:21 pm 
 

I went to the local record shop, looking for Body Count cds(because they aren’t on Bandcamp). They weren’t in the metal or hardcore sections, or with Ice-T in the rap section. I noticed though, that Black Sabbath was in the rock section, not metal(I’ve seen Pantera moved back and forth, at this store).

They also had Timewave Zero in the metal section. So, if any of you were asking, if it appeals more to metal fans, or if ambient fans take it seriously, I guess it’s not true ambient.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:14 am 
 

The face of the "Lars Ulrich toilet" is now officially my new sleep paralysis demon:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:26 am 
 

Having seen the full thing in the article, being forced to sit on that to take a shit should be legally considered a form of sexual assault.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:24 pm 
 

Smalley wrote:
The face of the "Lars Ulrich toilet" is now officially my new sleep paralysis demon:

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I can't tell if this is the best thing I've ever seen or the worst thing I've ever seen.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:52 pm 
 

It's very cursed, but it seems a bit intentionally cursed as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:40 pm 
 

Mekong Delta now have their splendid catalog on Bandcamp. As I listened to The Healer, I was very surprised to hear Doug singing along to the melody from around the 12 second mark until the 30 second mark where the singing along is there for the melody that kicks in then, because that wasn't the case on the CD version I used to have. The CD version has the melody-singing from the 30 second mark until the lyrics kicks in (though in my view in a less noticable way), but not the the previous singing.

How can a vocal part be "lost" like that for decades? Or perhaps it's been on other editions in between, but it's still strange that something like that isn't on all of them.

Compare the beginning of this:
https://soundcloud.com/mekongdeltaoffic ... ugitives-1

with this:
https://mekongdelta.bandcamp.com/track/the-healer

Anyway, I quite like it the Bandcamp way. Sounds kind of ethereal the way he goes daaaaa-daa-dee-daa-dee-dee-daa-dee-dee-daaaa, and so on.

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Face_your_fear_79
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:10 pm 
 

Am I going to far about this? You give me your thinking.

The department I work for is really taking the bad way. I work as a stock guy and the code system the department uses does not always match up with what the display is saying.

When I brought this up to the manager I was told (it kind of sounded like a threat) that the system we are using can change depending on what is being sold and I think I remember hearing the time of year can also effect things.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:51 am 
 

Dembo wrote:
Mekong Delta now have their splendid catalog on Bandcamp. As I listened to The Healer, I was very surprised to hear Doug singing along to the melody from around the 12 second mark until the 30 second mark where the singing along is there for the melody that kicks in then, because that wasn't the case on the CD version I used to have. The CD version has the melody-singing from the 30 second mark until the lyrics kicks in (though in my view in a less noticable way), but not the the previous singing.

How can a vocal part be "lost" like that for decades? Or perhaps it's been on other editions in between, but it's still strange that something like that isn't on all of them.

Compare the beginning of this:
https://soundcloud.com/mekongdeltaoffic ... ugitives-1

with this:
https://mekongdelta.bandcamp.com/track/the-healer

Anyway, I quite like it the Bandcamp way. Sounds kind of ethereal the way he goes daaaaa-daa-dee-daa-dee-dee-daa-dee-dee-daaaa, and so on.


It's been a while since I heard anything by MD, but I do know that some of their albums were remixed at some point. That would bring out some "lost" bits and pieces (and potentially bury some that were there originally) - that's the nature of the remixing process. What you had was probably the original mix and what you're hearing on Bandcamp is most likely the remix. That would account for the difference.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:51 am 
 

Smalley wrote:
The face of the "Lars Ulrich toilet" is now officially my new sleep paralysis demon:

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I only saw the hair and forehead at first and thought this was a statue of... something else
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Hexenmacht46290 wrote:
They also had Timewave Zero in the metal section. So, if any of you were asking, if it appeals more to metal fans, or if ambient fans take it seriously, I guess it’s not true ambient.

I've been listening to a lot of ambient albums, and I really enjoyed Timewave Zero when it came out. It has a slightly different sound than most of the ambient music I've heard, but I wouldn't consider it any less ambient than the rest.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:34 pm 
 

EvergreenSherbert wrote:
Smalley wrote:
The face of the "Lars Ulrich toilet" is now officially my new sleep paralysis demon:

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I only saw the hair and forehead at first and thought this was a statue of... something else

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That article says that the toilet was already used, at a bar. I don’t buy the claim that it wasn’t meant to insult Lars Ulrich. This is totally immature.

If you like Metallica, you like his drumming. It’s a foundational part of the band. He and James Hetfield co-own the Metallica name. He’s not going anywhere. But, I still hear some avid fans telling me “they need to fire Lars.”

Porno/gore/copro grind bands could do something like this.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:09 pm 
 

Hexenmacht46290 wrote:
That article says that the toilet was already used, at a bar. I don’t buy the claim that it wasn’t meant to insult Lars Ulrich. This is totally immature.

If you like Metallica, you like his drumming. It’s a foundational part of the band. He and James Hetfield co-own the Metallica name. He’s not going anywhere. But, I still hear some avid fans telling me “they need to fire Lars.”

Porno/gore/copro grind bands could do something like this.
Don't you think it's possible to like Metallica despite Lar's drumming? I mean, I like Immortal, but that sure isn't because Abbath was a good drummer or anything...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:57 pm 
 

Paranoid through Vol 4 completely changed the musical landscape and killed 60's psychedelic hippie optimism.

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Lars isn't the best drummer in the world, everyone knows that but the chemistry he has with Hetfield is undeniable. Het comes up with the riffs and Lars helps on the arrangement. I know I'm stating the obvious here but they are a good songwriting team.

That toilet needs to be destroyed.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:32 am 
 

Meh saying they need to fire Lars is crazy. Metallica would be boring as shit with some random other drummer. Not every band needs to have some arbitrary standard of virtuosity to be good. It just is what it is with some things like Lars' skills.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:35 am 
 

Am I the only one who thinks the toilet looks more like Mikael Akerfeldt without the mustache?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:04 am 
 

Face_your_fear_79 wrote:
Paranoid through Vol 4 completely changed the musical landscape and killed 60's psychedelic hippie optimism.


The Velvet Underground, The Stooges and Alice Cooper did more to do that. Plenty of anti-war, environmental and tripping-out themes in Sabbath. But hippie optimism was killed by factors outside music, and not for the better.

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oldmetalhead wrote:
Lars isn't the best drummer in the world, everyone knows that but the chemistry he has with Hetfield is undeniable. Het comes up with the riffs and Lars helps on the arrangement. I know I'm stating the obvious here but they are a good songwriting team.


Co-signing this. Everybody knows the criticism of Lars' drumming is not about the drumming. It helps to remember that it usually comes from pockets of humanity that hold such technical masters like Abbadon, Quorthon, whatshisface from Dissection and fuckin' Mike fuckin' Sus in the highest regard. ("Oh, but it fits the atmosphere.")

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:15 am 
 

I'm not a huge fan of Lars as a drummer but he works for Metallica's needs. Their focus has never been on super technical playing, if you listen to Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets it's easy to see that they're all about bombastic songwriting and hard-as-bricks riffing. If anything, Hetfield is the technical highlight of the band, and I'm fine with that.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:10 am 
 

oldmetalhead wrote:

That toilet needs to be destroyed.


Now when you say that..... do you mean in the sense when someone takes a huge stinky messy shit and they go, "Man, I destroyed that toilet."?

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DoomMetalAlchemist wrote:
oldmetalhead wrote:

That toilet needs to be destroyed.


Now when you say that..... do you mean in the sense when someone takes a huge stinky messy shit and they go, "Man, I destroyed that toilet."?

:lol: That works too.

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Smalley wrote:
Don't you think it's possible to like Metallica despite Lar's drumming? I mean, I like Immortal, but that sure isn't because Abbath was a good drummer or anything...


Yes. But you have Metallica super fans doing things like this, or people complaining about Saint Anger snare drum(I’ll take that over triggered stuff any day, trash can snare sounds heavy and barbaric).

Recently, at work, someone I know walked by, wearing a Metallica shirt. I asked him, out of curiosity, what he thought of the St Anger snare. He said that he didn’t care about it, but that “they need to fire Lars, and get a real drummer.”

I don’t get it, is he supposed to be bad, or something? Maybe I’m at fault, for just listening to guitar and bass too much, because I can actually play them, and not paying attention to the drums. If someone can show me an example, of Lars making mistakes, or something else bad, please show me. I’ve never seen them live, but I don’t hear any mistakes on the albums, it sounds good.

I’m asking in good faith, I’m just wondering. I’ll believe it, if someone can show me.
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