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Firmament1
Mallcore Kid

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:37 pm 
 

It's my one-year anniversary of joining this site. And if you asked me last year what my favourite bands were, I would've listed them as one of my favourites.

I don't hate them, and I still think there are plenty of things to like about some of their material, but... A lot of their stuff really doesn't do much for me at this point.

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Hexenmacht46290
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:19 pm 
 

Music preferences change. Doesn’t mean they’re bad. Go on YouTube and Bandcamp, check out more music. You might come back to them in a few years, and really enjoy it.

I went in the opposite direction as you. I hated them for years, because I considered them posers, for being popular. When I actually listened, I found a lot to like.
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Oxenkiller
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:25 pm 
 

I was that way about a lot of my early "gateway bands" - I grew up in the glam rock era and by the late 1980s, it was considered really "uncool" to be into Motley Crue, Ratt, etc, even though when I was like 13 or 14 or so that was what I dug.
I do think a lot of music is specifically geared towards a younger audience though, which does make it inevitable that one will "Grow out of it" so to speak- but then, nostalgia for the music of one's younger years can be a powerful thing.

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LithoJazzoSphere
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:10 pm 
 

Sometimes you grow out of bands. Sometimes you grow into them. Just make sure you don't do it to please some strangers on an online message board.

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Unorthodox
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:01 am 
 

I'm 28 and this year I got back into Slipknot in a big way. Great band, Iowa rips.
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Firmament1
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:14 am 
 

Definitely hoping that I start enjoying them more again, at some point. Iowa's still a really good album. It's mostly everything after that.

I don't think I'll ever find myself outright disliking them though, mainly because I'm always gonna be grateful to them for helping me get into metal, at the bare minimum.

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Turner
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:36 am 
 

That first Slipknot album made huge waves when it first came out - I was in high school at the time and everyone loved it. I didn't really go much for nu-metal but it was a lot better than the rest. But Iowa was a huge disappointment and I just completely forgot about them until I heard the album with Gematria and Sulphur on it... in maybe 2010? Either way I spun that constantly for a while, great album, but the ones after that have all been mostly boring. I gave the debut another listen a few months ago and I was amazed at how badly it's aged - the good songs are still great, but there's a LOT of filler, it's way too long, and the production is shithouse. I know Ross Robinson was applauded for it at the time, but these days it just seems so... rough and annoying? haha.

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InnesI
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:21 am 
 

Firmament1 wrote:
It's my one-year anniversary of joining this site. And if you asked me last year what my favourite bands were, I would've listed them as one of my favourites.

I don't hate them, and I still think there are plenty of things to like about some of their material, but... A lot of their stuff really doesn't do much for me at this point.


There is often a case for younger fans that they eventually find things more extreme, or more cool, or more whatever-it-may-be and thus reject what they once liked. Or that people give them flac for liking a certain band and after a while it takes hold and they themselves drift away from said band.

Music preferences do change but I find that I don't dislike any music I used to like. I may not be as into it as before. Or I may enjoy it occasionally but not as often as when I was young. But usually there is still something there which resonates and I try to value that. The first rock I really liked was probably Europe. As I got older, and more into metal, it was not a cool band to like. I never cared. Their early stuff is good heavy metal and their later stuff is good hard rock (haven't heard their post-reuinion stuff though). I think we are to often influenced by what others think of the music we like. I try my best not to be. Ignore those with negative comments and embrace those who wants to open doors to new music. I build my music library - I don't sort out stuff.
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wizard_of_bore
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:27 am 
 

LithoJazzoSphere wrote:
Sometimes you grow out of bands. Sometimes you grow into them. Just make sure you don't do it to please some strangers on an online message board.
That's well put. To reiterate that, whoever told you that you will just grow out of liking Slipknot is an asshole. I like their first three albums quite a bit. That's not even really it though. Fuck that elitist attitude. Like whatever you want and whatever makes you happy. Nu Metal, Country, Rap, Techno, Punk whatever it is.
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LithoJazzoSphere
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:37 am 
 

InnesI wrote:
Music preferences do change but I find that I don't dislike any music I used to like. I may not be as into it as before. Or I may enjoy it occasionally but not as often as when I was young. But usually there is still something there which resonates and I try to value that.


Yeah, I've never cared for the mentality of hating music you used to love. Maybe for some people that is an authentic shift in taste, but too often it reeks of chasing trends, and portends disliking the music you're currently hyping in a number of years when something else has become ascendant in popularity.

To the topic itself, I was never a huge Slipknot fan, but the song "Wait and Bleed" when it came out was definitely a major stepping stone towards other types of metal I would get into later, with the heavily-downtuned guitars, double bass and harsher vocals, and I still enjoy listening to it and a few other songs of theirs once in awhile. "Duality" was also another intriguing song, and there's a great Rick Beato video breakdown of it on YouTube.

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Firmament1
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:13 pm 
 

InnesI wrote:
There is often a case for younger fans that they eventually find things more extreme, or more cool, or more whatever-it-may-be and thus reject what they once liked. Or that people give them flack for liking a certain band and after a while it takes hold and they themselves drift away from said band.

Music preferences do change but I find that I don't dislike any music I used to like. I may not be as into it as before. Or I may enjoy it occasionally but not as often as when I was young. But usually there is still something there which resonates and I try to value that. The first rock I really liked was probably Europe. As I got older, and more into metal, it was not a cool band to like. I never cared. Their early stuff is good heavy metal and their later stuff is good hard rock (haven't heard their post-reunion stuff though). I think we are too often influenced by what others think of the music we like. I try my best not to be. Ignore those with negative comments and embrace those who wants to open doors to new music. I build my music library - I don't sort out stuff.

I'd say that to some degree, this is the case. Like I said, I'd never outright dislike Slipknot, mainly because they were pretty important into getting me into metal. And there's still aspects that I like. But y'know, I should probably focus on what I DO like about them more than what I now don't like.

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InnesI
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:43 am 
 

Firmament1 wrote:
I'd say that to some degree, this is the case. Like I said, I'd never outright dislike Slipknot, mainly because they were pretty important into getting me into metal. And there's still aspects that I like. But y'know, I should probably focus on what I DO like about them more than what I now don't like.


You will always come across people who tell you what to like and not to like (for various reasons). My advice is to not pay them much attention at all. Don't conform to them and don't go into clinch with them. Leave them with their opinions and go back and listen to whatever you like.
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jimbies
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:47 am 
 

I still love hearing songs from the self-titled and Iowa for nostalgic purposes. I was never the biggest fan, but I was in 9th grade when the self-titled came out, and I latched onto it for a while. Saw them live in 2005 at Ozzfest and they were fun.

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Zerberus
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:31 am 
 

Preferences change. I used to adore Slipknot as well. Upon discovering new music, I just discovered that the parts I liked about Slipknot were done better by other bands.
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draconiondevil
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:32 pm 
 

I never got into Slipknot but when I first started listening to heavier music my go-to band was System of a Down. By the time I was 14 I had moved onto Slayer and other "truer" metal bands and SOAD fell by the wayside. That was 13 years ago and I recently listened to all of System of a Down's albums again for the first time in over a decade. They're not something I would be into nowadays but I enjoyed those albums more than I was expecting too.

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Pincushion
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Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:04 pm
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:53 am 
 

LithoJazzoSphere wrote:
InnesI wrote:
Music preferences do change but I find that I don't dislike any music I used to like. I may not be as into it as before. Or I may enjoy it occasionally but not as often as when I was young. But usually there is still something there which resonates and I try to value that.


Yeah, I've never cared for the mentality of hating music you used to love. Maybe for some people that is an authentic shift in taste, but too often it reeks of chasing trends, and portends disliking the music you're currently hyping in a number of years when something else has become ascendant in popularity.


You must still love "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" then, eh? :-P My point being that I'm sure there is something from your past you don't like if you go back far enough, so obviously age factors into this. Not just due to the amount of musical exposure but because the brain doesn't finish maturing until age 25. I dislike most of the music I was listening to at age 10. I dislike maybe half the music I liked at age 15 (including Slipknot). Most of the music from age 20, though, I still like. I don't think this is uncommon, and most people are just honing their tastes rather than trend-chasing. The music that you love at the end of your honing journey can make the music at the beginning look bad by comparison.

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asmfc
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Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:24 am
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:57 pm 
 

Well I don't really listen to them anymore and I was a huge fan 20 years ago when Iowa came out, but youtube recommended me this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O_8XI7fPjw

And if you tell me that they were not one of the best live bands in 2001, just huge energy and they sound awesome

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twistedknife
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:40 pm 
 

For me it was the opposite. I got into Slipknot after thrash, death, black, and doom metal. I'm not a massive fan, but I do like some of their music. Besides Korn's first album, they're the only nu metal band I listen to.

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Gravetemplar
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:16 pm 
 

LithoJazzoSphere wrote:
Sometimes you grow out of bands. Sometimes you grow into them. Just make sure you don't do it to please some strangers on an online message board.

Pretty much this.

I grew out of Black Sabbath, thrash and classic death metal but still enjoy some Slipknot. Stay true to yourself no matter what.

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pressingtoplead13
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:53 pm 
 

Nope. Not all of us said you'd grow out of Slipknot. I have gone through phases where i was in and out of bands but most bands that I really loved alot at one point i did for a good reason and I always come back and enjoy them later.

I was a teenager when Slipknot was blowing up and Corey Taylor was like the voice of my childhood. He spoke the angst and heartbreak that I could never put into words. Slipknot IMO is atleast a top 15 band in my collection, and they will always hold a dear spot in my childhood, they are part of me. Are they the best band nah, but I'll never grow out of them. Side note. The first Stone Sour album was great as well.

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