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darkeningday
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:00 am 
 

Dude, Family Research Council is just one of the many institutions that fall under the umbrella of James Dobson, a public figure under whom they either grew up on or came to admire. It's more like giving money to your friend whom you admire and either don't know or don't care that he will use some of that money to sell drugs to pre-schoolers.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:11 pm 
 

House voted 420-0 to make Mueller's report public. Smoke weed.

Senate voted 59-41 to reject Trumps fake border emergency.

And... https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2019/03/14/trump-issues-warning-to-opponents-it-would-be-very-bad-if-his-military-police-and-biker-supporters-got-tough.html
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:23 pm 
 

As is sometimes the case, the biggest news of the week got buried this time around:

https://thediplomat.com/2019/03/after-t ... -missiles/
https://www.apnews.com/ea243a96bc254378ba92f1e3e8761389

A new cruise missile (GLCM) was more or less expected post-INF, but that bit about a new IRBM is pretty big news. And bad news, even if it is conventional. And also completely unnecessary, like Trump's entire "let's cancel the INF" shtick. There's no need to introduce ground-launched missiles---which by definition are largely immobile and easily-targeted---into either the China or western Russia theaters, since we already have similar ship/sub-based missiles and hundreds of miles of international waters to move them around in; thousands of miles, in the case of China.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:31 am 
 

https://www.theroot.com/as-of-today-abortion-is-effectively-banned-in-kentucky-1833337195
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:10 pm 
 

"President Trump tweets that US will recognise Israeli sovereignty over Golan Heights, seized from Syria in 1967 war"

MAJOR shitstorm coming soon.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:46 pm 
 

Makes you long for the days of the ditherer Gerald Ford in the White House, whose official position on the Golan Heights was “uhhh... we’ll get back to you.” Seriously though, the United Nations have repeatedly been unanimous in condemning Israel’s occupation of Golan. The UN is never unanimous about anything! If Trump’s trying to turn the USA into a global pariah, this oughta do it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:47 pm 
 

This is the start of something so much uglier than any of you want to imagine right now. Earthcubed is spinning in his grave already before he's even dead.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:09 pm 
 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-abruptly-reverses-treasury-s-north-korea-related-sanctions-chinese-n986376

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"President Trump likes Chairman Kim and he doesn't think these sanctions will be necessary," Sanders said.



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:26 pm 
 

America will never be a socialist country like Denmark, instead we'll be a Randian free-market utopia like North Korea.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:30 am 
 

Doesn't really fit his normal Hitler-impersonating persona. I don't like Chairman Kim and I don't think any economic sanctions are necessary, because economic sanctions have the sole purpose of effecting regime change by deliberately starving the population so they'd rise up against the regime to be changed, which was used to great effect by people like Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin, but is a crime against humanity by definition, and like I said I don't think crimes against humanity are ever necessary. Donald Trump choosing not to further pursue killing off a population by the tens or hundreds of thousands as a means of foreign policy is really out of character for him though because that's usually the first choice. Maybe he figures sentencing the population of Venezuela to death for the crimes of someone they didn't elect will more than make up for it, it's a big population, should satisfy such desires even when the entire population of Yemen has died off - likely to be finished this year or next.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:52 pm 
 

If Trump wins reelection, upon RussiaGaters heads be it. Why people decided to make this a central issue in this utter trainwreck of a presidency really does make me question the "controlled opposition" conspiracy theory.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:34 am 
 

darkeningday wrote:
America will never be a socialist country like Denmark, instead we'll be a Randian free-market utopia like North Korea.


I saw a humorous meme on line that America is the best place for socialism to take root because it's the only country that can't be invaded by America.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:33 am 
 

Resident_Hazard wrote:
darkeningday wrote:
America will never be a socialist country like Denmark, instead we'll be a Randian free-market utopia like North Korea.


I saw a humorous meme on line that America is the best place for socialism to take root because it's the only country that can't be invaded by America.


I once had a short Facebook debate with a pro gun supporter where he stated that one of the main reasons it was important for the citizens to have the freedom to possess all sorts (and quantity) of guns was for the Government to fear its people enough so they can leave them alone, so according to his reasoning at least, a war between patriotic Americans and commie Americans isn't that far fetched.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:43 am 
 

https://dod.defense.gov/News/News-Releases/News-Release-View/Article/1795239/dod-authorizes-support-to-counter-drug-border-security/

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March 25, 2019 (9 hour ago)
News Release
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Release No: NR-065-19

IMMEDIATE RELEASE
DOD Authorizes Support to Counter Drug Border Security

Today, Acting Secretary of Defense Patrick M. Shanahan authorized the commander of the U.S Army Corps of Engineers to begin planning and executing up to $1 billion in support to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Customs and Border Patrol. These funds will be used to support DHS’s request to build 57 miles of 18-foot-high pedestrian fencing, constructing and improving roads, and installing lighting within the Yuma and El Paso Sectors of the border in support of the February 15 national emergency declaration on the southern border of the United States.

10 U.S.C. § 284(b)(7) gives the Department of Defense the authority to construct roads and fences and to install lighting to block drug-smuggling corridors across international boundaries of the United States in support of counter-narcotic activities of Federal law enforcement agencies.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:21 am 
 

Thexhumed wrote:
Resident_Hazard wrote:
darkeningday wrote:
America will never be a socialist country like Denmark, instead we'll be a Randian free-market utopia like North Korea.


I saw a humorous meme on line that America is the best place for socialism to take root because it's the only country that can't be invaded by America.


I once had a short Facebook debate with a pro gun supporter where he stated that one of the main reasons it was important for the citizens to have the freedom to possess all sorts (and quantity) of guns was for the Government to fear its people enough so they can leave them alone, so according to his reasoning at least, a war between patriotic Americans and commie Americans isn't that far fetched.


Nothing is too far-fetched for those guys. A lot of them are Creationists, for one thing. But they are also our biggest dabblers in conspiracy theories, and that tends to be the segment of the population where we find doomsday preppers. But then, the idea that Americans are allowed to have guns to prevent a tyranny means nothing when those same citizens voted for the most tyrannical president we've ever seen.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:59 am 
 

Kind of non-US related but one of our major Right-Wing parties tried to get into the back pockets of the NRA.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-26/ ... s/10936052

For the record, only about 6% of Australians actually want stronger gun laws here.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:02 pm 
 

So, with everyone freaking out about the Mueller Report, it helps to have some clarity.

About the only thing Trump was exonerated on was collusion with Russia. That's it. There are still multiple points of corruption with him and his administration, and over a dozen investigations going on in Trump world.

Or to put it more amusingly:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:40 pm 
 

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:09 pm 
 

droneriot wrote:
"President Trump tweets that US will recognise Israeli sovereignty over Golan Heights, seized from Syria in 1967 war"

MAJOR shitstorm coming soon.


Russia already have troops on the ground there and have had them for some months. Not a peep from anyone.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:23 pm 
 

Russia and Israel consider each other allies and friends, which doesn't exactly make things less complicated.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:59 pm 
 

About 2 years too late but...

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/436220-dem-lawmaker-accuses-trump-and-mcconnell-of-collusion-on-release-of-mueller
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:51 pm 
 

That rush of wind you heard is the collective, dejected sighing of every establishment Dem after seeing the latest Biden accusations.

Resident_Hazard wrote:
So, with everyone freaking out about the Mueller Report


It's amazing to me that people are letting the administration hoodwink them into thinking there is no "there" there, on the basis of an extraordinarily weaselly-worded 4-page summary of a 400-page report, which defines criminality so narrowly---literal quid-pr-quo coordination between "the campaign" and the "Russian government," to the exclusion of, say, members of his family and GRU consultants, or his business partners and Russian government-owned businesses---that it's worthless for any CI purposes. Like, Trump's own son publicly admitted to trying to coordinating with a Russian citizen, which is something that Barr's definition doesn't cover. Oh and by the way, the CI side of the investigation, which was the largest part of it---nowhere in the summary. And not a single full quote from the report, every quote is a partial quote.

We've seen the Barr Memo, not the Mueller Report. Barr was appointed to bury this thing. For reasons I outlined way back on page 1 of this thread, I don't think and never did think this was going to be The Thing Which Sinks Trump, but people are letting themselves get gaslighted way too easily about this.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:44 am 
 

If Barr's summary misrepresented Mueller's report in any significant way, wouldn't the Special Counsel release a statement as they did when Buzzfeed News allegedly released inaccurate information earlier in the year?

Regardless, I think a redacted version of the Mueller Report will be in the public's hands before the year's end. The question then will be what's in the redactions.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:03 am 
 

Earthcubed wrote:
That rush of wind you heard is the collective, dejected sighing of every establishment Dem after seeing the latest Biden accusations.

Resident_Hazard wrote:
So, with everyone freaking out about the Mueller Report


It's amazing to me that people are letting the administration hoodwink them into thinking there is no "there" there, on the basis of an extraordinarily weaselly-worded 4-page summary of a 400-page report, which defines criminality so narrowly---literal quid-pr-quo coordination between "the campaign" and the "Russian government," to the exclusion of, say, members of his family and GRU consultants, or his business partners and Russian government-owned businesses---that it's worthless for any CI purposes. Like, Trump's own son publicly admitted to trying to coordinating with a Russian citizen, which is something that Barr's definition doesn't cover. Oh and by the way, the CI side of the investigation, which was the largest part of it---nowhere in the summary. And not a single full quote from the report, every quote is a partial quote.

We've seen the Barr Memo, not the Mueller Report. Barr was appointed to bury this thing. For reasons I outlined way back on page 1 of this thread, I don't think and never did think this was going to be The Thing Which Sinks Trump, but people are letting themselves get gaslighted way too easily about this.


The complacency of people in this country--in this world--and moreso, among American conservatives is astounding. I suppose, conservatives have thrived on lies their whole lives, given the religion they cling to, but at the same time, when did self-respect bottom out completely? People don't care about being conned, misled, or lied to anymore? That anyone is accepting of a 4-page summary of a 400-page report that ran for two years is absurd. That people seem hoodwinked into thinking "no collusion for Trump specifically" is the only take-away from this goes beyond absurd. And that Barr is so clearly covering for what's in the report, and McConnell worked so diligently to prevent it's full release despite everyone wanting the full report released? This is a level of corruption that you literally only find with narrative villains.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:30 pm 
 

The issues the Trump administration has with the government of Germany are going to solve themselves because the government coalition of Germany is going to change, the Trump administration said that today. No one in the German government is in on that and they're all just puzzled about it, but apparently there's some wizardy powers at work.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:21 am 
 

failsafeman wrote:
It's actually becoming possible that he'll be impeached. This Russian stuff is just ridiculous - you'd think any sane person in his situation would be extra, extra, extra careful to keep any dealings with Russia very safe-looking, given the rumor mill, but nope. He doesn't even give enough of a fuck to get the story straight with his own PR people.

What was the issue with Hillary's email servers again? National security? And now Trump himself is INTENTIONALLY BLABBING NATIONAL SECRETS to Russian officials IN PERSON.



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Quality of life for the average American? Abysmally low.
US reputation abroad? Somehow even lower.
Prognosis for the future? Even lower still.
Likelihood that the Trump admin won't drag us into another 2008 economic crash (or even worse)? So close to zero it's not even worth acknowledging.
But lib triggeredness? Way, way over 9000.

Conclusion: will vote against class interests again because who cares about boring shit like healthcare and not dying when there are internet liberals to be owned?!?
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darkeningday wrote:
Quality of life for the average American? Abysmally low.
US reputation abroad? Somehow even lower.
Prognosis for the future? Even lower still.
Likelihood that the Trump admin won't drag us into another 2008 economic crash (or even worse)? So close to zero it's not even worth acknowledging.
But lib triggeredness? Way, way over 9000.

Conclusion: will vote against class interests again because who cares about boring shit like healthcare and not dying when there are internet liberals to be owned?!?



sources please …. sorry your life sucks if this is a reflection
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kaoswar wrote:
darkeningday wrote:
Quality of life for the average American? Abysmally low.
US reputation abroad? Somehow even lower.
Prognosis for the future? Even lower still.
Likelihood that the Trump admin won't drag us into another 2008 economic crash (or even worse)? So close to zero it's not even worth acknowledging.
But lib triggeredness? Way, way over 9000.

Conclusion: will vote against class interests again because who cares about boring shit like healthcare and not dying when there are internet liberals to be owned?!?



sources please …. sorry your life sucks if this is a reflection


Actually how about this, fuckhead. Post your sources that this ISN'T happening.
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alexo666 wrote:
kaoswar wrote:
sources please …. sorry your life sucks if this is a reflection


Actually how about this, fuckhead. Post your sources that this ISN'T happening.

[litany of articles citing the well-being of the out-of-touch super-rich intensifies]
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kaoswar wrote:
darkeningday wrote:
Quality of life for the average American? Abysmally low.
US reputation abroad? Somehow even lower.
Prognosis for the future? Even lower still.
Likelihood that the Trump admin won't drag us into another 2008 economic crash (or even worse)? So close to zero it's not even worth acknowledging.
But lib triggeredness? Way, way over 9000.

Conclusion: will vote against class interests again because who cares about boring shit like healthcare and not dying when there are internet liberals to be owned?!?



sources please …. sorry your life sucks if this is a reflection



Quality of life index has been steadily falling since 2016- https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/ ... title=2019

International approval of the country and the president- https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... -9-charts/

Prognosis of the future/ economic uncertainty- https://www.axios.com/great-barrier-ree ... 78a9a.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 367027002/

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/10/styl ... risis.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/bu ... 977661002/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billconerl ... h-in-2019/

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:18 pm 
 

ATTN resident natsec xpert EarthCubed: what's the significance of Trump firing the longtime USSS director?
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I don't think there is any particular significance in him being Secret Service director. I think it's just Miller blowing steam all over DHS. He thought throwing children in cages was insufficiently harsh, he blames DHS for being unable to deal with migration flows, so he's pushing Trump to throw out whoever he can in the department. It isn't just Secret Service director and the DHS secretary, he also forced out the USCIS director, and I thought I saw an article they forced out DHS' top lawyer too. In the meantime they can intimidate the acting directors to try to find more creative mechanisms of needless cruelty.


Immigration is pretty much the only policy area his base cares about at a level deeper than "we like it cause it triggers the libs," so we should expect to see more harsh-but-arguably-legal measures and border stunts for the next 18 months. Or at least attempts to.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:17 pm 
 

VaderCrush wrote:
kaoswar wrote:
darkeningday wrote:
Quality of life for the average American? Abysmally low.
US reputation abroad? Somehow even lower.
Prognosis for the future? Even lower still.
Likelihood that the Trump admin won't drag us into another 2008 economic crash (or even worse)? So close to zero it's not even worth acknowledging.
But lib triggeredness? Way, way over 9000.

Conclusion: will vote against class interests again because who cares about boring shit like healthcare and not dying when there are internet liberals to be owned?!?



sources please …. sorry your life sucks if this is a reflection



Quality of life index has been steadily falling since 2016- https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/ ... title=2019

International approval of the country and the president- https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... -9-charts/

Prognosis of the future/ economic uncertainty- https://www.axios.com/great-barrier-ree ... 78a9a.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 367027002/

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/10/styl ... risis.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/bu ... 977661002/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billconerl ... h-in-2019/

Also, shut up


all cited from liberal-one sided news sources ... and yes, you shut up and go fuck yourself
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Yes, because, as we all know, reality has a well known liberal bias.
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Forbes and Pew are "liberal one-sided news sources," amazing, simply amazing.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:28 am 
 

The only Western country with no universal healthcare is also the only Western country with an average life expectancy below 80 and also the only Western country with a decreasing average life expectancy, they're just basic numbers you cannot bias in any way, it's just how it is.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:30 pm 
 

The Kool-Aid is strong in that one.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:18 pm 
 

People who don't feel right with Star Wars The Last Jedi, Captain Marvel, Star Trek Discovery and all that corporate leftbaiting stuff, I made a video about the politics of Star Trek Discovery comparing actual leftism with that leftbaiting shit multinational corporations do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4bxXZw8vX0
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:38 pm 
 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... spartanntp

Quote:
"If I'm still the majority leader in the Senate think of me as the Grim Reaper. None of that stuff is going to pass," McConnell said while speaking to community leaders in Owensboro, Ky.

"I guarantee you that if I'm the last man standing and I'm still the majority leader, it ain't happening. I can promise you," McConnell added.


I hope this man dies before 2020.

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