You are woefully and arrogantly downplaying the capabilities that exist in the hands of a lot of private citizens.

Not all of these individuals are the stereotypical weekend warrior Meal Team 6 folks with pea shooters. Some of these people are veterans who have been to war and were part of the actual military at some point in the recent past. On top of that you have other individuals who basically have the equivalent of military training.

Also, may I introduce you to NFA items/weapons? A ton of Americans have those as well, up to and including fully automatic weapons, rocket launchers and explosives (yes, REAL military grade weapons and not just shit ignorant politicians with an agenda use to scare uneducated people).

I understand that the military has several orders of magnitude more available weaponry, but we shouldn't underestimate the potential firepower non military civilians have.

As far as foreign aid? Well, who knows?

Nah, he isn't. You can recognize that many private citizens in America have tons of firepower relative to other civilian populations (to an insanely excessive degree) and also recognize that Title II weapons, explosives, etc are not comparable to the hardware the government would be bringing to the table. The F-35 has the capability to deliver a highly precise, virtually undetectable 2,000 pound armor-piercing warhead from over a thousand miles away. Stew Rhodes the Oath Keeper Guy with his USAS-12 that he takes to the range once a week isn't gonna scare that warhead.

Also, can we not pretend these guys would be subjecting us to an Afghanistan-style guerrilla war if it came to that? The mujahideen had been fighting for two decades when we went in. Some of them had literally never known peacetime. These guys are not that. Not even the ones with prior military experience.

Yes, we know the government has the capability to do this ten times over. However, should it ever get to a point where a government is using warheads against its own citizens, said government runs the risk of losing its legitimacy, especially if it begins to incur collateral damage, which will only serve to further radicalize more people (this is not an outlandish hypothetical, because we have real world examples of this happening). People already express outrage if non-combatants get killed overseas whenever we get involved, even more so if they find out one of the non-combatants was an American citizen. If worse comes to worst, it must take a measured approach to dealing with such a flavor of domestic terrorism/violence. Otherwise, it could backfire in many directions; one of them being ending in a pyrrhic victory.

However, the people we're talking about don't necessarily have such reservations or concerns. They could bring out the big guns and start handing out Ls and cause some serious damage...potentially.



The middle east is not the only time in the last century where an insurgency has somewhat put up a legitimate fight against a government and handed out a couple Ls. It just happens to be the one we're most familiar with in recent memory.

Dude, I’ve been seeing these shitbags scream about civil war for over 30 years. Ever since Ruby Ridge and Waco. I’m at this point telling them put up or shut up because I’m sick of listening to it. If their tangerine Mussolini is the one their willing to fight and die for, they can go right ahead. I’ll sit back and watch these fools get curb stomped. Fuck em!

The issue that worries me about that is the potential for them to take innocent people with them. Like I said, unlike the government (at least hypothetically and presumably), these guys won't necessarily have any reservations about collateral damage or potentially causing further radicalization. All it takes is for one nutcase to go all out and then you have a bunch of casualties. For now, all we get is a lone radical or two or three who tries breaking into the FBI field office in Ohio. Lets hope that's about as bad as it gets for a long time, if not indefinitely.

This might be one of the most laughable things I've seen from DeSantis...


Basically, Ron is trying to limit discussions of diversity in work and school, and not only did a judge block it (for the better), but even referenced Stranger Things in their reasoning

Then again, I don't expect a bill called "Stop WOKE Act" to go anywhere at all...

Now the right wing lunatics think it's not just the FBI that is after them but also the IRS. They actually believe for some odd reason that IRS agents are now arming themselves with AR-15s and are coming to take their guns LOL.

FOX and all the right wing media outlets are supposedly fueling this shit, with even people as high up as Ted Cruz saying it, and on MSNCB (my go to news channel, slightly over CNN) they were saying that all these politicians supporting this rhetoric know it's not true but they just say it anyway.

Florida is ruled by Florida Man

I don't know, Florida Man in my mind is a meth-head carrying a gator on the highway, or something similarly silly, not an actual competent fascist (not a compliment) who says and do silly things to cater to the actual Florida Men.

It appears as if the Biden Administration are putting their student loan forgiveness plan into action, and my largely conservative family members are already complaining about it.

One side made a large move the other side is mad.

The staggering number of Republicans who are complaining about student loan forgiveness, only to get their own PPP loan forgiveness thrown right back in their faces, is insane.

I believe many, if not all, of them are also C-19 deniers, or something of that ilk. Constitution. Constitution. Constitution. USA! USA! USA! Rah! RAH! RAH! But take very government $ possible...and it is OK for them to screw the govt out of it.

Don't get too excited the supreme court will probably strike it down before it goes into effect in October/November.

“Chief Justice Roberts made his decision, now let’s see him enforce it.”

How are you so certain of this? Or are you just being facetious?

I think he's being facetious, but then, some states like North Carolina have announced they will consider the pardon as income and tax it. You know, because they care about the people who live in their states, and totally not just out of spite, no sir, no spite at all.

I don't know much about his student loan forgiveness plan, but what is it about it that conservatives seem to hate so much?

I mean, I don't really see how giving people help with their student loans is such a bad thing.

"Oh no, people are going to get help with something that drives countless people into crippling debt. Kids these days don't know the value of hard work and just expect the world to be handed to them on a silver platter. Also, a Democratic administration came up with this."

Yeah, conservatives on my social media feed have been nonstop posting stuff like "You're making your neighbors pay for your bad financial decisions," etc etc

No mercy for student loans. I have know plenty of people stuck with them. Shit shouldn't cost that much to begin with. Same for medical expenses. I went to a 4 year liberal arts college. It was just an excuse to party. I have no illusions about that. My father didn't go to college. He said it was bullshit and he was right. If you're not going for something like engineering, it's a joke.

You want to cheat the college system and get all the benefits? Work in a bar in a college town. Make friends. If people like you, you get hired and will be trained on the job. I know so many people with great careers that can be traced back to connections they made working in a bar.

90% of most jobs is really just showing up. Especially considering standards are REALLY low right now.

At this point I'm convinced that the lot of them just want everyone to be just as miserable as they must be deep down inside.

I mean...granted that's pure conjecture and I've got no real evidence to indicate that.

But, c'mon. Tell me I'm wrong, I dare you.

Also, it's odd to me that some of the very people who vote conservative aren't even necessarily the people who would benefit from the system or those policies. It's almost like they don't understand how they're ultimately only fucking themselves.

"We're all domestic terrorists" running on your giant header and Orban as a keynote speaker, and you're upset at being called semi-fascist and a threat to democracy? Little did we know how apt Hillary was with basket of deplorables.

I wish everyone could afford to go to college. It serves far more, and better, things than just getting a job. I've never understood why it is a boogeyman to talk about it from an experiential and opening and exercising of the mind perspective. I'm all for that convoluted definition of privilege and elitism. I could also never figure out all the backlash at the general educational class requirements. Our high school system has been whittled down to basics, yet we're supposed to know a life direction at 18 years old with little exposure to much of anything; so little exposure to ideas, other disciplines, and possibilities. I appreciated all those elective classes and still feel they serve a great purpose. Money well spent. I remember an Army recruiter using a GI Bill sales pitch, "We all benefit when someone goes to college. The knowledge and experience gets shared." Of course, it was a disingenuous carrot, but they weren't wrong. It's also akin to Mark Twain's statement “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.” Education is travel.

I'm fine with forgiving loan debt, but they really need to remedy the rising costs. It doesn't make much sense to do the former without the latter.

Spot on. 100% agree.

If it helps people I'm all for it, but people with college degrees don't strike me as the ones needing the most help. Having a degree, even a "worthless" one puts you ahead in the job market. Having a piece of paper that can document that you got a degree counts for a lot, and many jobs will simply require an education level regardless of area of study. I don't have the stats on hand for America, but I reckon it's the same most places. People with higher education generally earn better than if they had no education.

Now, of you quit college or had to because of illness or some other crisis, then the debt is an anchor dragging you down, I understand that.

Like I said, if it helps people I'm for it, but I can't shake the feeling that it's helping people who don't need it the most.

What's the percentage of college graduates who are from families needing the most help? To go to college, they were burdened with a massive amount of debt. I knew some rich kids in college, but most of my peers were from low income and working class families. And what Biden is giving them isn't a whole lot, really. $10K when "The average cost for one year of college tuition and fees at four-year schools in 2020-2021 was $19,020", which is down about $1K since 2017-18. It was actually more expensive five years ago. For many, dumping the interest is the biggie.

Man, I can't imagine if you made it a talking point to give "quitters" loan relief. I wouldn't call someone that, but the angry, hateful public would love to rip on that.

Well, for one instance: Ted Cruz is involved in a business that collects student debts, so he has interest in making it hard for them, because it means they accrue interest. If Biden just pays off part of their debt, he makes less money.

But on a more ideological level:

1) "Why should I pay for someone else's debt" is a HUGE (some might say YUUUUGE) thing in conservatism. Rugged individualism, "pull yourself by your bootstraps", all that sort of things. It obviously ignores multiple things, namely that "the rugged Mississippi plumber who never went to colelge and who pays for other people's debt" will benefit greatly from other people's education, because these people include the scientists, the doctors, the nurses, the lawyers, the business consultants he deals with.

2) "College is indoctrination" is also a thing lately, so of course, conservatives oppose anything higher education (hell, anything education) because reality and modern conservatism are at odds. The average Republiturd thinks teachers teach critical race theory, pushes the trans agenda, makes kids gay heathen liberals. So they don't want to pay for that.

3) The higher ups realize that more educated people tend to vote Democrat.

4) When the lower downs think of college and university, they think gender or social studies, art majors, literary studies, i.e. things they don't value.

5) And of course, there is no small measure of "I got mine so fuck you", an attitude sadly very common among older folks but also some younger ones.

So really, it's not surprising that they oppose this. You might even add that they oppose everything the Democrats do by principle; if Democrats said "breathing is important", a bunch of Republicans would hold their breaths to death just out of spite.



Yet there are plenty of jobs requiring a college degree and not providing a commensurate pay. Teachers, for instance, are underpaid. Nurses too in many cases. So it can take years for people to pay their college debt, and that's not even taking into account people who were duped by more doubtful practices, like colleges with sub-par education or higher interest rates in loans.

Looks like some on the left are taking responsibility for the excessive Covid-19 responses:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

At least one side is acknowledging mistakes.

That opinion piece (and I must stress, it is one writer's opinion piece) seemed like concern trolling to me. "How do you do, my fellow liberals?"

It may have a point, but I still disagree with its sentiment. The closure of schools was a necessary evil. Yeah, it sucked. I was in my senior year of high school when fall of 2020 started, and then full-time community college afterwards. Super hard to pay attention in online classes, super easy to get distracted when at home. I resented the lockdowns at first for this reason, but thinking back, it was the right thing to do. You also have to consider that America's "distrust the government, be individualistic, look out for number one, give me my freedom" culture is different from the rest of the world's, who had much less problems with getting lockdowns and containment measures in place and getting their cases down pretty quick so things could start opening up.

I agree with you that the individualism in the US is extreme compared to most of not all other countries. And that it did contribute to a number of issues. Everything from anti-vax to willful obesity is covered with that unfortunately.

However I found the tone of the article to be less trolling, and more a side step. Not saying the left made a mistake directly, but using round about language to say it. And as an opinion piece, it does mean someone feels owning a mistake is order.

Lauren Boebert. Amazing how well she can deliver the stupid. It's a tough call between her and Greene. Where do we find dimwits like this?

Wait till you hear about a potential Herschel Walker in the House. The guy was probably not the sharpest knife, but years of concussion has made him barely coherent and completely idiotic.

He's a PERFECT fit for the Republican party...

As a person who grew up in a country were healthcare and education is basically free - far from perfect though - I can say that I really feel sorry for you guys. College and education, two of the most magnificent things that a young person can experience, are indeed the thing that nobody wants to talk because of those stupid loans. And to be honest it is really reasonable to not want to get a massive debt. Working a minimum wage job might be equally awful but I think many people prefer to be poor than be in debt.

At least dat money is going straight into your bank account and not contributing to your next student loan repayment. Truly a black cloud over one's head, for sure.

Pursuing a degree in the US seems to carry a lot more risks compared to other places and from what I know the system needs a massive overhaul, but provided you chose to pursue a degree with good job opportunities having a degree massively boosts your earnings. Definitely preferable to working a minimum wage job. Yes you'll be repaying loans for a while but the degree will pay for itself through the years.

why?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1571629917372039168

They're not even trying to hide it anymore, and it's been like this since the whole January 6 incident...

if true...as if we don't already know this guy is just another ANGRY scuzzball with power...

https://popular.info/p/the-smoking-gun- ... s-vineyard

I don't want to defend crazy republicans, but if you listen to what's being said it seems like they're doing a prayer thing with at the end a cheer where they're supposed to bring their hand down, akin to something you'd do at a sports event. It doesn't seem like they're doing a nazi salute to me.

Edit: looking into this guy I wouldn't be suprised if he threw a cheeky sieg heil once in a while though. But I don't think that's what's happening in the video.