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darkeningday
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:20 am 
 

Can anyone explain the significance of Janet Yellen labeling Taiwan a Currency Manipulater?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:29 am 
 

darkeningday wrote:
Can anyone explain the significance of Janet Yellen labeling Taiwan a Currency Manipulater?


Essentially, Taiwan are being called out for large-volume state purchases of foreign currency vs. the TWD, which impacts the pricing of the TWD on the open market, which impacts the cost of goods denominated in TWD, which impacts the balance of trade with the US. The US gets bitten because it relies on Taiwan for lots of computer production related stuff.

The significance ? Nothing immediate; it's a warning shot at this stage, and in line with the US regulatory approach to the currency markets as they impact the US in general.

Longer term ? trade tariffs with the US can be put in place, currency trading limits can be put in place, both measures designed to correct the price of TWD to something that the US regulators see as more 'natural'. Other major currency markets (London, Tokyo, Frankfurt) would likely match any US-led penalties.

In terms of geopolitical significance - On this list currently is everyone from China to Germany to Vietnam to Switzerland - it's very much a US-perspective, driven by US trade & industrial concerns. Lots depends on the makeup of a given government.

Some interesting details here - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-11/taiwan-s-surging-fx-intervention-raises-risk-of-manipulator-tag

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Brooklyn center police have made the situation worse, as expected. The city decided they weren't allowed to use aggressive crowd control methods like CS gas at 8 PM, and by 8:30 PM they were doing it anyway. They gassed nearby apartment buildings, violently arrested residents in Bath robes, arrested press, shot at people taking cover behind umbrellas... Good job, you stupid violent fucks.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:18 am 
 

Thanks Methuen, although your post showed I know far less than I thought I did about global trade and currency, which was already practically nothing.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:13 am 
 

A who's who of the absolute worst GOP senators: https://ca.yahoo.com/news/ted-cruz-among-six-republicans-115850241.html.

Look at that. Cruz, Rand Paul, Tom Cotton and Josh Hawley among the six deplorables.

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Curious_dead wrote:
A who's who of the absolute worst GOP senators: https://ca.yahoo.com/news/ted-cruz-among-six-republicans-115850241.html.

Look at that. Cruz, Rand Paul, Tom Cotton and Josh Hawley among the six deplorables.


The article doesn't give a reason as to why they're voting against it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:08 am 
 

The article isn't clear, but at the end:

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Before the voting, Mr Cotton had said that the Senate should have discussed it from the “Department of Justice before blindly acting on this issue,”as Democrats had speed up the bill’s consideration before holding a hearing about it.


It's a bit of a word salad but seems like Cotton's issue with it is he wanted to discuss it more. But given four of the six GOP members are among their worst, and given that the vast majority of Republicans had no issue with it despite usually going against anything the Democrats advance as a reflex, it's evidently just an excuse to cater to their racist base.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:49 pm 
 

I think the bill is fine but I'm broadly opposed to legislation that expands the punitive powers of the government. Just because the bill purports to be about doing a good thing (reducing hate crimes) doesn't mean it can't actually be about something else that isn't good. The best example of this was a "stop human trafficking" bill that was actually almost entirely about stripping protections for sex workers and making them less safe.

Those six senators are the worst in congress though, so chances are it's pretty good. But the idea that voting against a bill means you're inherently opposed to what the title of the bill is is childish. I'd have voted against the sex trafficking legislation, does that mean I'm pro-trafficking?


To change the subject to something good, if Biden really does manage to pull out all US troops in Afghanistan by September, regardless of how badly he fucked up on the border and regardless that he's on track to settle fewer refugees than Trump, he will still go down in my book as the best president of my lifetime. Don't back down to the hawks and neolibs at the Pentagon and in the media, Joe. The world is watching.
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You know what's crazy? The founder of the town where Daunte Wright was killed, Earle Brown, was a literal member of the KKK. And the sheriff. And the founder of the Minnesota State Patrol. And The Vice President of the Minnesota Eugenics Society.

You can't make this up.

https://www.thenorthstar.com/p/sheriff-earle-brown-founder-of-the
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Roktan wrote:
You know what's crazy? The founder of the town where Daunte Wright was killed, Earle Brown, was a literal member of the KKK. And the sheriff. And the founder of the Minnesota State Patrol. And The Vice President of the Minnesota Eugenics Society.

You can't make this up.

https://www.thenorthstar.com/p/sheriff-earle-brown-founder-of-the


Dammit.

There's a paywall.

I'd like to read this.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:51 am 
 

Now back to your regularly scheduled "why the fuck is Biden significantly better than Trump again?" post.
1.) Biden is retaining Trump's mandatory minimums for Fentnyl dealers. This includes dealers who are selling even trace amounts of Fentnyl in their product who are probably not aware of it which, unsurprisingly is almost all of them.
2.) Biden is continuing to seize land from Southern US farmers to continue Trump's border wall, as well as "fixing" holes where dem durty ummigrants managed to squeeze through Trump's newly erected wall.
3.) Biden will continue to sell arms to Saudi Arabia, as long as the Saudis claim it's for "defensive purposes," which they are free to say for literally everything, and which they will.
4.) Biden is likely to slightly increase the cap on refugee resettlement, however to even bring it back to Obama's already historically low cap is "not happening."
5.) Biden has proposed a larger military spending bill than Trump.
6.) Biden is pushing for Colombia to resume spraying coca crops with aerial Glyphosate, which is basically handing out free cancer to Colombia's citizens and a doubling down Trump's drug warhawkishness.
7.) Caged kids continues.
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Not to mention his abhorrent response to the Daunte Wright killing - he didn't even call the family before jumping on a video and saying any rioting would be bad. I fucking hate that shit.
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6.) Biden is pushing for Colombia to resume spraying coca crops with aerial Glyphosate, which is basically handing out free cancer to Colombia's citizens and a doubling down Trump's drug warhawkishness.


Glyphosate doesn't cause cancer.
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it likely does
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Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.
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Slater922 wrote:
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I don't have the time or the patience to go over the statistics here, but there's about as much reason to believe glyphosate gives you cancer as there is for coffee.

There is also a long, storied history of verifiably fraudulent research on the topic. Your meta-analysis even cites Seralini.
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The sole reference to this notorious study was, "These studies, in which mice were exposed to only glyphosate, may have underreported incidence of malignant lymphoma given evidence of increased toxicity of GBHs compared to glyphosate alone."

The metanalysis I linked is far more recent, and lacks the financial connections to Monsanto that make up the base of most of Lowe's assertions. Derek Lowe was a blogger and attack dog for the pharmaceutical industry since ages ago. I'd be much more enthusiastic about peer-reviewed studies from rank and file university scientists. Citing Lowe for this is like citing a Philip Morris study on cigarettes and lung cancer in the 1970's.

Here's the Vice article that kicked off the controversy. It includes the letter which asserts the possible link to cancer: https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjpygb/ ... glyphosate
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darkeningday wrote:
Derek Lowe was a blogger and attack dog for the pharmaceutical industry since ages ago.


You don't actually read his blog, do you?

You sound like an idiot here. I'd love to hear your biochem or statistics credentials.
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Pretty amazing this cop was found guilty on all three.

I don't think I could've asked for much more.
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Took them long enough. He should've been fired and charged for this shite ages ago. Late is better than never though, and this is really the best we could hope for.
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CoconutBackwards wrote:
I don't think I could've asked for much more.


lol.
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l Lunaris l wrote:
Took them long enough. He should've been fired and charged for this shite ages ago. Late is better than never though, and this is really the best we could hope for.


Imagine - if there had been no video, he would probably have walked.

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Oblarg wrote:
darkeningday wrote:
Derek Lowe was a blogger and attack dog for the pharmaceutical industry since ages ago.


You don't actually read his blog, do you?

You sound like an idiot here. I'd love to hear your biochem or statistics credentials.

It's really hard to make a point about "credentials," when an easily vettable group of more than 150 professors from institutions as diverse as the University of Chicago, Oxford, Northwestern, Stanford, Berkeley, Amsterdam and countless more signed an open letter in January that asserted, "Indeed, glyphosate is being curtailed or banned globally as scientific studies show that exposure to the active agents causes cancer, miscarriages, and respiratory illness, among other grave consequences."

But I'm sure a blogger's thoroughly outdated piece is much more credible. I mean, are you serious?
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I just wanna say that Nancy Pelosi is the dumbest motherfucker alive right now in a position of political power on a scale equivalent to hers. "Thank you, George Floyd, for sacrificing your life for justice." Bitch, George Floyd would still be alive if he hadn't been murdered by a fucking cop, you fucking idiot.
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darkeningday wrote:
It's really hard to make a point about "credentials," when an easily vettable group of more than 150 professors from institutions as diverse as the University of Chicago, Oxford, Northwestern, Stanford, Berkeley, Amsterdam and countless more signed an open letter in January that asserted, "Indeed, glyphosate is being curtailed or banned globally as scientific studies show that exposure to the active agents causes cancer, miscarriages, and respiratory illness, among other grave consequences."


You cited a meta-analysis that looked at mostly observational studies and which cited a verifiably fraudulent paper.

You can find on the order of a hundred academics to sign just about anything.

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But I'm sure a blogger's thoroughly outdated piece is much more credible. I mean, are you serious?


It's really not that outdated? The science hasn't changed much in four years. The data sets are still hopelessly confounded and there's still essentially no evidence that exposure at typical levels causes any harm at all.
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Subrick wrote:
I just wanna say that Nancy Pelosi is the dumbest motherfucker alive right now in a position of political power on a scale equivalent to hers. "Thank you, George Floyd, for sacrificing your life for justice." Bitch, George Floyd would still be alive if he hadn't been murdered by a fucking cop, you fucking idiot.


What the hell

Please tell me she didn't actually say that
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l Lunaris l wrote:
Subrick wrote:
I just wanna say that Nancy Pelosi is the dumbest motherfucker alive right now in a position of political power on a scale equivalent to hers. "Thank you, George Floyd, for sacrificing your life for justice." Bitch, George Floyd would still be alive if he hadn't been murdered by a fucking cop, you fucking idiot.


What the hell

Please tell me she didn't actually say that

Actually, she did.
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That's how a lot of these out of touch old liberals probably see it, like some fantasy story where everything ended up OK in the end and had a neat and tidy resolution. As if the pig cops haven't killed dozens of more people even just recently.

Pelosi should really hang it up - just so sick of this out of touch broken-ass establishment.
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The underlying sentiment of her statement is clearly "his death won't be in vain", because she talks about the bill that's now being talked about in the senate ( George Floyd Justice in Policing Act), but directly thanking the dude for being murdered is not the way to do that...

Isn't Pelosi calling it quits in 2022?
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A 16 year old black girl was killed by Columbus police in the fucking interim period between the jury reaching a verdict and the verdict being read in court. She’s the one that called the cops in the first place, and they killed her. One conviction is not going to lead to anything, no matter how much out of touch neolibs want to try and will that anything into existence.

Also, I’m 100% certain that this bill that Pelosi referred to is not gonna have anything substantial in it. If anything, it’ll dump a bunch MORE money into police training, because another thing neolibs also believe is that you can train police culture to not be murderous, trigger happy racists anymore.
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Subrick wrote:
A 16 year old black girl was killed by Columbus police in the fucking interim period between the jury reaching a verdict and the verdict being read in court. She’s the one that called the cops in the first place, and they killed her. One conviction is not going to lead to anything, no matter how much out of touch neolibs want to try and will that anything into existence.


Body cam footage shows that seconds after the cop arrived on scene, that 16 year old lunged at another girl and tried to stab her. The cop shot to protect the person being attacked. Her being the person that called the cops in the first place doesn't matter, at all.

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I’m 100% certain that this bill that Pelosi referred to is not gonna have anything substantial in it. If anything, it’ll dump a bunch MORE money into police training, because another thing neolibs also believe is that you can train police culture to not be murderous, trigger happy racists anymore.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/here-s-what-george-floyd-justice-policing-act-would-do-n1264825

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The bill aims to end certain police techniques, including chokeholds and carotid holds, two forms of potentially deadly force. Such practices would be banned at the federal level, and federal funding for local and state police agencies would be conditioned on those agencies outlawing them. The bill also seeks to improve police training and invest in community programs designed to improve policing and promote equitable new policies.

Ban no-knock warrants in federal drug cases and, as with chokeholds, encourage local and state agencies to comply by tying bans to federal funding. A no-knock warrant led to the fatal shooting of 26-year-old Breonna Taylor by police last year in Louisville, Kentucky.
End “qualified immunity,” which protects law enforcement officers from most civil lawsuits.
Make it easier to prosecute police officers accused of misconduct by lowering the legal standard from willfulness to recklessness.
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Require local and state police agencies to use existing federal funds to ensure the use of body cameras, require all federal uniformed officers to wear body cameras, and require all marked federal police vehicles to use dashboard cameras.
Create a national police misconduct registry to prevent police officers who are fired or pushed out for bad performance from being hired by other agencies.
Use federal grants to help communities establish commissions and task forces to study police reforms.
Address police militarization by limiting how much military-grade equipment is awarded to state and local law enforcement agencies.
Enhance “pattern and practice” investigations of police departments by granting the Justice Department subpoena power and establishing grant programs for state attorneys general to conduct their own probes.
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Still inexcusable either way. The cops have other recourse besides shooting to kill. They're the authority so they bear the most responsibility.

Plus every white jizz stain mass shooter gets away fine despite actually fucking killing people. No fucking excuses.

And yeah Pelosi is supposedly stepping down but she should've done so like 10+ years ago.
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What other resources should the cop have used during those two seconds when the girl was actively trying to stab a person?

I don't think this situation can be compared to mass shooters. Just totally different things, and they don't "get away fine" in a lot of cases.
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The mass shooters get to be alive in prison. This 16 year old was killed as if a 16 year old couldn't ever possibly reform or change how she was acting.

How about shooting them just to wound? Four shots was an appropriate way to do this, for one teenager with only a knife? It wouldn't have been easy enough to defuse the situation otherwise?
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I tend to agree with henkkjelle here. If lethal violence is being committed when the police is at the scene that is actually a pretty good excuse to use heavy force on the attacker. Let's not put this scenario, if the info is correct, together with the ones where the victim of police shootings haven't resisted, were unarmed or where heavy force wasn't necessary.

That said I do think there is a good argument for not using actual guns as often as American police does. There has to be alternatives that could work as well. Like stun guns or something along those lines.

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Plus every white jizz stain mass shooter gets away fine despite actually fucking killing people. No fucking excuses.


I got curious and tried to fins statistics on this. The closest I got was this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... n-america/

Out of 198 mass shootings (from 1966 onwards) the killers also died at the scene, or in close to it, in 106 cases. So 53% of the cases. Sometimes by the police but often by suicide. Couldn't see the ratio between the two though.
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The mass shooters get to be alive in prison. This 16 year old was killed as if a 16 year old couldn't ever possibly reform or change how she was acting.

How about shooting them just to wound? Four shots was an appropriate way to do this, for one teenager with only a knife? It wouldn't have been easy enough to defuse the situation otherwise?


If possible, ofcourse. But I don't see how it was possible in this case. Sorry, but I think the cop should be more concerned about the life of the person being assaulted with a knife.

Edit: The "only a knife" comment sounds dishonest. You must know that knives are deadly weapons, right? She wasn't 20 meters away from her target, she was on her.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:24 pm 
 

Watching the video and I just don't see any justifications for it. Fight at a foster care home. They're still children and there was no reason for a 16 year old to be slaughtered for this. It wasn't some kind of malignant threat or a horrible bogeyman villain or anything.

Basically any cop involved shooting is going to get traction right now though. I guess I'm biased though, I'm usually very against state mandated murder and don't believe that cops usually have anyone's best interest in mind but their own.

And no I don't believe the "only a knife" comment was disingenuous at all. They have tasers and they could break it up. Happens every day. This was just more racist murder as far as I'm concerned. More "oh my god, a black person, better pull the trigger." People will frame it as a knife attack = she intended to stab someone to death. Really kinda doubt it would've gotten that far. This was a thoughtless, angry fight. Probably happens a shitload of times with no one dying or even coming close.

And black people tend to get construed as dangerous and adult more even when they're younger. I think that played into the cop's actions.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:53 pm 
 

But she was a very real threat to the other girl. It's like the possible loss of her life or severe bodily harm doesn't factor in at all for you. But maybe we just have different ideas on justifiable force. As far as I'm concerned the well-being of an aggressor should come behind the well-being of a victim. And I'm not comfortable with a cop just kinda eyeballing how severse an ongoing knife attack is or could be. You're gambling with the life of the victim at that point.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:57 pm 
 

It would've been the exact same outcome if there was no knife and they were just shoving each other.

Policing in America is a racist institution.

Whatever justifications you might have, a 16 year old girl was killed. This was not some kind of irredeemable monster or someone who was even finished developing as a person yet. A teenager getting shot by the cops is shitty in any instance.
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