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Killed_by_Death
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:57 pm 
 

I recognize that Deep Purple has influenced Heavy Metal, but is SOTW a Heavy Metal song?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:44 pm 
 

No, it's clearly a bossa nova song
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It's free-form jazz, you pleb.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:58 pm 
 

Yes. If it’s not metal enough, for you, however, check out “pictures of home,” “highway star,” or “hard lovin’ man.” Those songs are so true, that mainstream rock radio is actually scared to play them. They only play “smoke on the water,” and “my woman from Tokyo,” because clear channel forbids them from playing true metal.

If you play or write music, look up the video on the band’s official YouTube channel, for highway star. You will understand the infernal power. I watch that and think “I want to write a song like this, I want to form a band that’s this cool.”
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Killed_by_Death
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:44 pm 
 

Hexenmacht46290 wrote:
clear channel forbids them from playing true metal.
Therein lies the answer to my question, thanks.

Hexenmacht46290 wrote:
If you play or write music, look up the video on the band’s official YouTube channel, for highway star.
I play bass & TBH the bass-arrangement for Highway Star is quite boring. The bass-arrangement for SOTW is actually more fun.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:50 am 
 

It's lightweight by modern standards, but most songs from that era are just because of all the techniques and better recording standards developed ever since. However, it's definitely a metal song.

In terms of early/proto-metal songs popularly considered heavy metal that really aren't, "Born to Be Wild" is my pick. Sure, it gave us "heavy metal" as a term in rock music, but the track itself is and has always been hard rock. Even when metal bands cover it, it sounds like hard rock to my ears.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:07 am 
 

Apparently so. I always have liked the song. People don't really talk about the guitar solo for that song however it is almost as good as the riff!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:22 pm 
 

Killed_by_Death wrote:
I play bass & TBH the bass-arrangement for Highway Star is quite boring. The bass-arrangement for SOTW is actually more fun.

I tend to agree with you, and Lemmy, and Cronos, when it comes to what the bass should be doing. But it still kicks too much ass for the radio, which never plays Motörhead.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:31 pm 
 

Nothing more efficient than a Power Trio with a bass-playing vocalist.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:55 am 
 

Probably was considered heavy metal at the time it came out.

Like listen to the sex pistols now and they sound like some average pub rock'n'roll band yet in 1977 they were as extreme as you could get

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:10 am 
 

In an interview with the Guardian, Richie says he doesn't mind Deep Purple being called heavy metal. In a not so roundabout way the man who now puts out albums of Christmas music says yes. Yes, Deep Purple were heavy metal.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/apr/15/ritchie-blackmore-i-have-a-bad-reputation-but-i-dont-mind

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:14 pm 
 

100% yes. Deep Purple is absolutely a heavy metal band.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:47 am 
 

Call it what you want, I would bet dollars to donuts that everybody that ever picked up a guitar and wanted to play something heavy, started by learning that riff and Iron Man.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:36 pm 
 

wizard_of_bore wrote:
In a not so roundabout way the man who now puts out albums of Christmas music says yes. Yes, Deep Purple were heavy metal.

Blackmore's Night is so much more than Christmas albums. If you haven't checked them out I would highly recommend doing so. It's really really good music and there isn't really anything else like it out there.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:27 pm 
 

black_metal_mountaineering wrote:
Like listen to the sex pistols now and they sound like some average pub rock'n'roll band yet in 1977 they were as extreme as you could get
Too bad The Ramones & Iggy & the Stooges beat them to it.

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100% yes. Deep Purple is absolutely a heavy metal band.
They were a Hard Rock band with about 5 Heavy Metal songs.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:25 pm 
 

Yuli Ban wrote:
In terms of early/proto-metal songs popularly considered heavy metal that really aren't, "Born to Be Wild" is my pick. Sure, it gave us "heavy metal" as a term in rock music, but the track itself is and has always been hard rock. Even when metal bands cover it, it sounds like hard rock to my ears.


Maybe the radio edit is pure old school rock. But the full song has that long psychedelic proto-speed metal section going on and I think that is what people are talking about.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:19 am 
 

Definitely not heavy metal in any way.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:00 pm 
 

Zelkiiro wrote:
It's free-form jazz, you pleb.


It's bubblegum bass, fucking poser.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:01 pm 
 

Yeah I'd say it's definitely heavy metal. Reminds me of Man On The Silver Mountain - of course that's Blackmore's signature sound.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:07 am 
 

Hexenmacht46290 wrote:
Yes. If it’s not metal enough, for you, however, check out “pictures of home,” “highway star,” or “hard lovin’ man.” Those songs are so true, that mainstream rock radio is actually scared to play them.
It's interesting you say this, since I actually just heard "Highway Star" on my local Classic Rock station the other day. Anyway, regarding the original post, I've always considered "Smoke On The Water" to be Hard Rock as opposed to Metal, although that style still deserves respect for laying the seeds for what would eventually grow to be Metal.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:47 am 
 

More free form blues rock imo
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:17 am 
 

for me is slow song of hard rock

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:51 pm 
 

Yes, as is Deep Purple in general.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:28 am 
 

black_metal_mountaineering wrote:
Probably was considered heavy metal at the time it came out.

Like listen to the sex pistols now and they sound like some average pub rock'n'roll band yet in 1977 they were as extreme as you could get


Yeah it's fifty years on now, it definitely would've been a lot heavier by 70's standards. I definitely see DP as a metal band, but I've never listened to them as much as Dio era Rainbow
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:09 pm 
 

oldmetalhead wrote:
Call it what you want, I would bet dollars to donuts that everybody that ever picked up a guitar and wanted to play something heavy, started by learning that riff and Iron Man.

Great post. I wasn't thinking in terms in becoming a guitar player, but from the perspective how how these two songs in particular brought the heavy musical world to life for so many kids. Iron Man gets readily shat upon, but to a young listener, it's a comic book in musical form. It's prime for turning someone young into a music listener, like a good comic book can turn a kid into a reader. Smoke has that same power.

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Speed King was metal, one of the first metal songs.

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