NURDS!

Hey, you are too! Think about all of those times you've analyzed and debated over ASOIAF.

I'm not asking for perfection, I'm asking for a decent ending.

Well I certainly would call it a good ending, but of course I said that already.

Well I certainly wouldn't call it a good ending, but of course I said that already.

Ok you don't need to take a quote verbatim and edit only a few words to make your point. That shit is useless.

I did it for a reason. The whole batman argument was completely useless and can boiled down to 2 different sentences with one changed word. Obviously you had one opinion about the end and I had another. A difference in opinion that could be summed up with one changed word. No matter how much we debate it will be the same. So can I please leave yet, without explaining my every opinion and post?

Who ever forced you to reply in the first place, I wonder? All I ask is that you present your opinion in a decent manner. Quoting me directly and editing it is not really something of that sort.

See now even after this you do not have to reply. No one is obliging you to. Any action you make to continue the debate is entirely on your own accord. Anyway I'm going to end this discussion of "discussion" and ask that we go back to discussion of movies.

On the topic of batman falling, why didn't he, or Rachel die after falling out of a god damned sky scraper. He didn't grab on to anything, since when has he had "Mystic falling from buildings armour". And even then, why would she survive, simply being held by someone indestructible doesn't amke her indestructible.

He was reducing the momentum greatly by sliding on the side of the building. The shock force was absorbed mostly by Batman (and mostly by his armor) so, Rachel did not get hurt as much.

Meh, it's bullshit, but I don't care, still a good movie.

Just watched Be Kind Rewind. It was pretty crap really, I wasn't expecting it to be great, but I was expecting at least sort of average. The synopsis I'd heard was much better than what actually took place (that they only had one customer, and senile old woman, who they were just trying to trick), soon as people started actually thinking the shitty remakes were good they lost me. A few of the sweded films were funny, but not all that much.

1) Not for several pages like that;
2) ASoIaF is Serious Business. Batman is a superhero, which automatically makes him inferior and nerdy, remember?

You have to wonder how Batman can use a grappling hook to catch a falling Joker, but can't use it to brunt the fall from a penthouse.

Come on, he was totally using it as a chance to feel up Rachel.

When Aaron Eckhart put his hand on her face I half expected them to meld together. She's like jello or something

I bet you've talked about it before in other places that would have amounted to several pages. Don't be dishonest now!

Batman is serious business too. Both series are nerdy.

Ahh ha ha ha, Giant Spider Invasion. Supposedly filmed in Wisconsin over a 6-week period. Oh how it shows. I saw it before it ended up on MST3K. Laughable trite.

Clonus Horror--more MST3K ribbing was done with this one--which is the only form in which I've seen the film. Truly pathetic all around.




Happiness of the Katakuris?
PURE FUCKING CINEMATIC GOLD.
Probably my favorite Miike film. 100% pure entertainment right there. A total blast in every aspect.

I've had a very hard time finding "The Happiness..." due to the regionized DVD's and the torrents I find of it are, for some reason, like 5 gigs?

Also, The Dark Knight is the new standard by which all superhero movies should be measured. Totally fucking awesome. I finally regret Heath Ledger's untimely death. BEST. JOKER. EVER.


Watchmen better be at least as good.

the Dark Knight - saw for the third time in the theaters, this is the max no of times ive been to theater for the same movie.. easily 9/10

Wall - E : weirdly fun to watch, recommended for animation fans.. its more like animation for adults i feel .. 7.5/10

Jumping back to Watchmen, again:



http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/07/24/ex ... e/#more-26

I don't really care much that MCR will have their little song(s) in this movie, but I'm a bit more curious about why they would have regular songs up until the 80's when the timeline in Watchmen changes at Vietnam. Half of the songs during the 70's might not have been made or there could've been a second hippy movement. I know it's nit-picking but it kind of bugs me.

have you seen "The Quiet Family" which it is apparently based on?

Just watched Futurama - Beast With A Billion Backs. It was good...better than the first one. I just wish there were more jokes in it, rather than those little sad scenes they scatter throughout. It feels like I'm watching a drama. Not a bad movie, though...definitely worth at least one watch.

That was full of jokes, at least compared to the first one.

"Wow, that was pretty brutal, even by my standards" is probably the harshest thing I've seen in a while.

Harshest thing by Futurama or anywhere?

I liked, "that's just a gangrene infection-- Oh, you're talking to Amy." (can't remember it exactly, but it was something to that effect)

Anywhere, at the time I saw it, I hadn't seen anything so harsh since the train scene in There Will Be Blood. I don't watch many movies, and I know, it was a "ha ha funny" harsh, but when you think about it, it was pretty brutal.

Oy vey Why MCR? If there are lots of 'celebrities coming out of the woodwork as Watchmen fans' why not choose one that's appropriate for the movie?

The Dark Knight
Yes, it was really good, easily the best superhero movie I've ever seen. Completely blows the others away. Having said that... surprisingly, I think it had the potential to be even better. I felt the Harvey Dent and Joker storylines were both strong and intriguing enough for their own films, but having the two together means they both get a bit short-shrift: they deserved more time and exploration than they got.

The Good:

Heath Ledger was a magnificent Joker. I was never a fan of Jack Nicholson's Joker (rather, I was never a fan of Jack Nicholson), but Ledger's is a great mix of panache and insanity that I found very lacking in the Nicholson portrayal. I don't think it's some sort of superlative that will never be equalled or surpassed (Mark Hamill's still the best Joker), but it's a great performance nonetheless.

The Bad:

The return of the Scarecrow was totally wasted. He was a big menace in the first film, but here reduced to Head Mook along with some Sons of Batman and miscellaneous neerdowells, which was lame, since Cillian Murphy did a fantastic job in the first film. As well as that, the entire Hong Kong/Lau subplot was completely superfluous, and it could have been excised or truncated without the story suffering.

Also, was this meant to be Gotham City? It looked like just about every other city in America. Batman Begins' Gotham had a character about it that made it distinct, like London or Washington or Chicago is distinct. Heck, even the horrible Schumacher films gave Gotham a look that made it DIFFERENT. Dark Knight Gotham just looked generic, which is a terrible shame as Gotham is one of the few cities in comics as big a character as their heroes & villains.

The biggest problem I had with the film was that many of the brilliant ideas either weren't explored enough, or were executed poorly. The Harvey Dent tragedy of a good man falling to chaos and insanity didn't work for me because he was too good, so given the provocations and trials he endured it was just not believable that he would go bad. There was no indication that he had a dark side until late in the film when he's interrogating that nutter, no sense that there was a single possibility of him going to the "dark side".

Then when Rachel died and he was horribly disfigured, combined with injury and recent stress... it just wasn't enough. I didn't believe he suffered enough stress and pain, because he was shown to be practically superheroic beforehand: if there was some dark side to his personality that few people saw but the audience did it would make some sense. The dude dealt with a gun-wielding ASSASSIN in a courtroom with contemptuous ease, he dealt with enough stress to kill a dozen people without showing any strain, and he even refused skin grafts and drugs despite being in agony, and yet we're supposed to believe that having his girlfriend die would push him over the edge? If they played up his dependence on Rachel more, and maybe showed him as being vulnerable without her, THEN I could buy it quite happily.

Also, how come the police call him two-face? I never saw him do anything hypocritical. Why didn't the film SHOW us him being hypocritical instead of just saying "yeah, he did that, take our word for it". Just... annoying.

The scene on the boat was infuriating. I can believe some people rising to the occasion in the face of adversity, but not all of them. I cannot believe NOT ONE crazy inmate or mother made a grab for the switch, that EVERYONE on the boat was a brave and outstanding citizen willing to let themselves die rather than choosing to let half of them live. Sure a few strawmen & women go for it, but bottle out because they'd rather passively allow themselves to die than to do something which will ENSURE that half of a group of people will live. That nonsense may fly in Metropolis or wherever Spiderman lives, but not freaking Gotham.

I guess the reason I'm picking on the smaller details like this is because the film was really, really good. I loved it, but the flaws and problems then become magnified in comparison to the good stuff. Kind of like when people complain about plot holes and anachronisms in Shakespeare.

I don't read any of the comics, but the Animated Series covered Dent's transformation into Two-Face well. In the Animated Series, while he is running for District Attorney, he gets diagnosed with multi-personality disorder caused by years of repressing his anger. One of the mob bosses, fearing what he might be able to do if he becomes DA, get a hold of his psychological records and threaten to blackmail him with it. When Dent catches up with this mob boss in a chemical plant, he loses his temper, and his bad-side comes in control, and goes off trying to kill him. One of the mobster's stray gunfire causes an explosion scarring Dent into Two-Face. Because of all the stress caused by recent events, Dent's "bad-side" is permanently in control over him.

I read somewhere that they were actually going to cover Two-Face in the next movie, which they should've done. Could've given more focus to both villains.

Honestly I hated Batman Begins Gotham, that railways system irritated me for some reason, it looked too sci-fi. I admit there wasn't much character to TDK's Gotham, but oh well...

Also, since when could the batmobile shoot a bat bike?

I'm going to see the new Batman movie this afternoon.
Everyone I've talked to says its great.

SINCE WHEN I SAID SO.

The narrows were awesome, that might be clouding my memory of BB Gotham.

I reckon it could happen, to be honest. Being horribly burnt, having your girlfriend die, and seeing the enemy/bad guy get away with it can leave a person to fall. Having said that, I can see what you mean. One would expect more tragedy; for him to hit rock bottom would be the ultimate fall from grace.


If you focus on the flaws, you will begin to hate the movie. I'm with you, though. The movie had some flaws, but doesn't all of them? It was a great movie, and probably best of 2008.

See, going through the stuff Harvey went through was perfectly fine for anyone else, I'm sure plenty of guys would fall to the dark side having gone through that: I just think the Harvey of the film was presented as being made of much sterner stuff than that. Either he should have been portrayed as a bit more vulnerable (they missed a trick at the fundraising scene: his dependence on Rachel could have been more pronounced than the generic romance we see in the film), or he'd have to go through worse stuff for the fall. And frankly given the stuff the Joker did in the film (that magic trick was dynamite, classic movie scene for the ages right there), I'm surprised they didn't make Harvey really suffer.



Heh, too late for me & Lord of the Rings I guess.



It's certainly the best film I've seen for a long time, yes.

You have a very hardened argument there, which I can't disagree with. He was about to become mayor of Gotham (right?), so he would've needed to be as hard as steel, so for him to fall from a few instances, despite them being major if you look at a person's life, is a little unrealistic. However, I never thought of it that way before and probably won't in the future.

I don't think it showed his dependence on Rachel, but more of his love for her.


Lord Of The Rings is shit. I hate everything about it. THAT'S RIGHT, MA. COME GET ME.

I just saw "Step Brothers." It was surprisingly hilarious as I thought it was going to be stupid and just plain slapstick comedy (and I was getting tired of Will Ferrell for awhile there).

Talking about superheroes movies... Aquaman's movie is gonna be real??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvmB8uCSRMQ

Just wait till I get my Visa

Nah, that's for the tv show http://www.aquamantv.com/

Either way, it looks like shit.

I don't like LOTR myself, or any of the other sort of "high fantasy" type stuff I've encountered. Someday I will give some of the more esteemed movies/books of its genre a try, though.

Old School - 4/5

I stumbled my way into this school of films - that of the "frat pack," as the actors common to the films call themselves - after watching Anchorman, and now I suppose I'm hooked. Well, being that this one was the one where all of that originated, I checked it out second. This is pretty much no different in quality than Anchorman, being the same crass, goofy stuff that that movie was, with an extra dosage of naked females to balance out the lack of a character as charismatic as Ron Burgundy. Endlessly hilarious and charming, I can recommend this to anyone who wants a great comedy.

My Cousin Vinny - 4/5

This is a classy 80s comedy about two young men who are mistakenly arrested and end up with their cousin, a lawyer who doesn't know all of the ropes just yet. Along with his girlfriend, the spunky and practical Lisa, they aim to get the two boys off charges. Sure, it isn't the most original thing ever, but it's got charm and pizazz to it, and it's fun to watch everything link together and culminate into the satisfying ending. A good movie.