Has anyone else seen this? What do you think? Personally I found it to be far superior to III and IV, although the original film is still my favourite, closely followed by II. I even enjoyed V better than its two predecessors despite watching only a crappy pre-release cam rip.

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I like how it focuses less on Jigsaw's history, something that I thought was explored too heavily in the previous two films and which showed his 'human' side too much thus detracting from the cryptic psychological scariness that comes from an anonymous, incognito killer that we know nothing about. I think the more we learn about his methods and the rationale behind his actions, the less we fear them because the less likely it seems that one could find themselves the victim of one of his traps for no apparent reason other than to appease the twisted delights of the captor, an element that truly terrified me while watching the first film, rather than knowing that there is a lesson to be learned and as long as the characters in the film abide by that lesson they will be safe from harm. Furthermore when we are given the background of some of the victims, often we lose sympathy for them (when we find out that they are murderers for example), thus detracting from the empathetic fear we feel for them.

I think the 'lesson' in the main 'game' involving the 5 unfortunate individuals was a lot less lame than the attempted moral axioms behind the games in previous installments in the series. The revelatory 'working together' maxim was something I found really clever and genuinely surprising (that in hindsight clearly more than one person could have fit into the chambers protecting the participants from the bombs in the second trap, for example), it was a twist that I truly did not expect.

Furthermore, I think the final trap with the closing walls was totally awesome. In fact all the traps I felt were a lot better than most of those in the previous two films and probably in Saw II as well.

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Any thoughts?

I hate that series and modern splatter/horror films so i won't bother with this one. They will also make a 6th saw...

I actually enjoyed. I hated the third and fourth installments, but Saw V did quite well tying the holes together, gore, and generally following a stable, productive plot. It is, however, pale in comparison to the first one.

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I love the entire Saw series, and the most recent movie was no exception. I agree that the traps are better than most in the more recent Saw movies, and I also agree that the first movie was better.

I just love how the movies all tie in to one big plot/storyline. Alot of people look at the Saw movies and think "it's the same movie over and over, just people getting stuck in disgusting traps/gory situations." I don't find that to be entirely true. While I do love most of the traps, I'm more fascinated by how the characters think and react, and their actions to try and save themselves.

This movie was great in my opinion. It really filled in a bunch of holes from the earliest movies, such as how the overweight guy got into the razorwire maze trap (in the first one), etc...

If you love the Saw series, than you'll definately love this movie. If you think that they've all sucked after the first or second movie, you probably won't enjoy this movie too much. If you hate the Saw series, seeing it as just a bunch of gore movies that are exactly the same, you'll most definately hate the 5th movie. That's what I've been telling my coworkers.

And by the way, the last trap was sick, eh? I cringed when his arm snapped. WOW!

I thought the original Saw was a fantastic film, with a great twist at the end. Saw II was alright, but now it's all formulaic. I stopped watching the films after demoting Saw III to just a rental at Blockbuster.

Every movie is the same (gorey traps, lessons to learn, shocking twist at the end), and despite many other horror franchises being formulaic too, Jigsaw does not hold a candle to horror movie icons like Voorhees, Kruger, or Meyers

Heh, I noticed it immediately when they were told that they had to get into the chambers.

Even if I hate splatter films, with no reason blood pumps, Saw series are really good. It's the plot which keeps you in agony and anxiety all the time.
I agree that the first one was brilliant, with 2nd and 3d following (3d>2nd). 4th was rather good, but not THAT good as previous ones.

About the 5th, I didn't know that is already done. So, I have to see it as soon as possible, according to the positive comments it got.


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Saw feels like this generations Friday The 13th with a bigger budget. They just keep churning 'em out.

I knew almost every plot twist in the movie, it was that cheesy. The traps are cool, but there is so much other crap. They should just do the whole movie as traps, w/o long and obnoxious story lines.

Haven't seen it, but the first was good, the second silly and sort of stale, the third boring crap, and the fourth enjoyable, if not cheap. This one I don't expect to be much different. None of them are worth above 4/5.

Saw V was absolutely horrible. The first three films were very good, but they decided to keep going on. The series should have just stopped at 3.

Just another Sub-par Z-slasher, let's kill some people and use a crap load of blood and such to make money, kinda movie.

I watched the first Saw movie ages ago and decided I'd rather not watch movies of this type ever again. I just don't see the point of this whole "torture porn" genre. Although I will say that Saw is much better than the atrocity known as Hostel.

I've really liked all of the films. This was no exception. It was on par with 3 4 5. 1 and 2 were far superior (those two are some of my fav films), but I still enjoyed number 5. The last trap was pretty sick (in a good way) I must say

That's the funniest part. In France, it will be called Saw six, which pronounces "saucisse" and means "sausage". Kill all.

lmfao!!!!!!!

And given that the first one was a steaming load of utter crap, I think I'll do what I've done since I learned from the mistakes I made watching the first two, stay far the fuck away.

I'm holding out for Saw 38, so I can just watch the boxed set with all the movies together.

They really are milking this one dry huh.

I give it another two installments before they cease to continue.

They planned 6 movies from the very beginning, so it's not so much "milking" it in that sense.

The first film had this sort of twisted detective story/dramatic thriller atmosphere to it that made all of the gratuitous stuff bearable, particularly the obsession that Danny Glover's character develops with Saw. Once the first movie ended, the cat was out of the bag and everything became extremely predictable. There was a little bit of a surprise in Shawnee Smith's character joining forces with him in the second flick, but they kind of foreshadowed the hell out of it in the first one so it didn't have nearly the same effect. Largely the second flick was mostly a pointless snuff film with a couple of odd twists, and with the third one the twists were completely gone. I didn't even bother watching the 4th one because the 3rd one was so damned boring and pointless.

Movies like these don't usually work as an extended series, the only exception I can think of where it worked to any extent was the Elm Street series because of the ever-expanding mysticism of Freddy's powers and the somewhat lighthearted sense of comedy that came about. The later sequels weren't great, but they were at least bearable.

As far as the 5th Saw goes, it sounds similar to the 2nd one from the description, so I'll probably wait until it hits my local blockbuster video, this is most probably not worth the $10 of theater admission.

They'll probably try to milk it further anyway, though, sad as it is. This series doesn't need any of that.

i felt the same but the 4th one actually has a much better twist in it, its worth a watch

i didn't really find any of the saw movies to be particularly interesting. amusing to watch perhaps, but more boring than i expected. i did like the first one, mainly because of the more psychological/suspense aspect of it. I find well done suspense and things like that scarier than a bunch of gore.

The twist in the fourth one is the worst part of the movie, and the ending is a serious letdown. The good part about that movie is the way it worships Se7en in an entertaining way.

Saw is a great series. V was real good.

I rented the first film on dvd soon after it was released because i was familiar with one of the guys who wrote it. The series really isn't that great, though i'm yet to see the fifth film.

However i must admit the drowning in mulched up pig carcass's bit in the third film is a cool idea.

Granted I liked Saw, I didn't like it enough to go out and rent 2 and 3, but I did watch 4 in theaters. Last Friday night I found myself bored enough to go to the movies and blow 7 bucks on this movie. It was ok. Wanted to see more gore that I could just turn my brain off and watch, but I got more of a retracing and a story about stuff I felt like I already knew.

It was a 6/10 in my book. But it got bonus points for a sense of closure.

Definitely want to see it.
Last year a friend and I went to a marathon when 4 came out (we had already seen the first 3 but were eager to watch them in a row). I don't know if it was because we sat thru 3 movies until seeing the 4th for the first time - but we both found it INCREDIBLY confusing. Is it one I should watch again before seeing the 5th?

Well, renting is cheaper than theater outings so I might do that. I'm not terribly big on pointless gore, which is why I didn't particularly care for the 2nd or 3rd one, not to mention that the acting took a nose-dive big time.

2 and 3 were up there with stupidest movies I've ever seen that weren't humorous. Didn't see 4.

How much is Danny Glover in this one? That's about the only reason I'd want to watch it.

I went to see it with some friends, and they didn't let us in because we weren't 18; which is retarded

I didn't like III or IV, but I was curious on how it would turn out. Fucking MPAA ratings.

I don't really like the story line of saw, but i do enjoy the "games" the victims go through.

What's so pointless about it?

I could sort of understand the main character's altered and distorted sense of morality in the first one, being treated like a number on a piece of paper while dying of cancer would probably get me pissed off enough to put my doctor through hell.

Afterward the whole thing just turned into an odd sort of laboratory experiment without any real endgame to speak of, each time the methods of death getting more and more ridiculous. What was he doing other than playing God with people who he thought were beneath him, while ratcheting up the shock factor of his death machines?

There was slightly more of a method to Saw's madness than what was in Hostel, which was a complete snuff film, but elaborate scare tactics and shock factor lose their punch without the sympathetic element.

Yes, but however miniscule or deranged his points may be, they are points nontheless. He clearly states the reason for his actions in numerous of the films.

The problem from my end is that if there's nothing there that I can grab onto and identify with, the film doesn't convey anything meaningful to me. I'm not minuscule or deranged in my reasoning, at least as far as I'm concerned, so it would almost be patronizing for me to just argue something along the lines of "well I didn't get this film, but I'm sure there is some point to it within Saw's twisted logic".

But certainly you can evaluate from an objective stance that the Jigsaw killer does indeed have a clearly formulated method and reasonings for them, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. So to call it pointless is inherently wrong.