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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:02 am 
 

http://grrm.livejournal.com/58155.html

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HBO has given the production order.

They will be filming the pilot episode of A GAME OF THRONES.

It's just the pilot so far. They'll need to see that before they decide whether to proceed with a full season's episodes. So let's all hope the pilot will kick serious ass.

It should. David Benioff and Dan Weiss did a terrific job with the script. And yes, all of you can relax, it's very faithful. Dan and David will be the executive producers for the pilot and (we hope) the eventual series.

More details when I have 'em. The news is very fresh. HBO just issued their own press release, which should be up on their website soon, if it's not there already.

Winter is coming to HBO. Hot damn.


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Best news in a long time. I hope they approve a full series soon.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:16 am 
 

Holy futzing shit, go HBO!

It's about time someone did something with A Song of Ice & Fire. I'd rather it be a high budget HBO series than a bunch of shit Hollywood movies like LotR.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:33 am 
 

AWESOME!!!

The one thing that upsets me is that I wanted to try to audition for a part...

Oh well, it was a long-shot anyway.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:03 pm 
 

No HBO for me unfortunately. Gotta wait for net leaks I guess.

Or maybe live streams...
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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:40 pm 
 

rexxz wrote:
No HBO for me unfortunately. Gotta wait for net leaks I guess.

Or maybe live streams...

No HBO here either, but I do buy the DVDs of the better series so at least I support them. :nods:

Can't wait to see what the cast will be.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:53 pm 
 

Haha they should take some cues from that huge index of character - actor match ups that we saw some time ago. Of course not all of those were logical decisions based on acting ability (or even availability) but it would be cool to see some of the "right people", so to speak.

*regarding the HBO thing, I just mentioned it because even if you might buy the DVDs of shows you like to support them, they might get taken off the air or not even have a chance to go beyond pilot due to poor ratings, that is my main concern*
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:27 pm 
 

Yes, I'm aware of that. We don't even get HBO over here though, so even if I had cable, there wouldn't be much I could do.

All HBO subscribers had better watch this, or else. :p

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:09 am 
 

Hmm, I thought they greenlit it ages ago!?

I will have my very own feast for crows the day this airs!

EDIT: Frick when is George gonna finish Dance?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:11 am 
 

Yes, they did greenlight it, but they never gave a hardline production date, which is what this news bit is all about.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:05 pm 
 

thomash wrote:
AWESOME!!!

The one thing that upsets me is that I wanted to try to audition for a part...

Oh well, it was a long-shot anyway.


You are an actor in the business?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:12 pm 
 

thejuicebitch wrote:
thomash wrote:
AWESOME!!!

The one thing that upsets me is that I wanted to try to audition for a part...

Oh well, it was a long-shot anyway.


You are an actor in the business?

Not really, but I have acted before, particularly in high school; most notably, I played Paul in "Barefoot in the Park" and Claudius in "Hamlet," for what it's worth. I was thinking of jumping through the requisite hoops (i.e., union membership) just to audition for "A Game of Thrones." Don't get me wrong, I love acting, but I don't want to make a career out of it.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:02 pm 
 

Hah, which character would you want to play? Also, can you do British accents? Because if the creators are not retards, they won't allow North American accents in there - I know I'm biased and it's arbitrary, but it just wouldn't feel right.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:12 pm 
 

After The Sopranos was laid to rest, nothing HBO has released since interests me.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:01 pm 
 

Morrigan wrote:
Hah, which character would you want to play? Also, can you do British accents? Because if the creators are not retards, they won't allow North American accents in there - I know I'm biased and it's arbitrary, but it just wouldn't feel right.

I was thinking Jon, Robb, or Theon. Also, I think I can do a decent British accent; I'm not going to fool native Englishmen in the real world, but I can probably deliver lines convincingly enough to pass as British in a performance. Besides, I know how to go about training myself for accents. I do agree that it wouldn't feel right to have a North American accent in the show; especially not mine, which is a subtle mix of California, Chicago, and Florida.

However, I should mention that historians believe that, at least before the Norman invasion and possibly throughout much of the medieval period, the English accent sounded much like a Minnesotan or Canadian accent. It's only in the early modern period that the British developed their modern style of speech. You might have a better, more natural accent for the show than me in that respect!

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thomash wrote:
Morrigan wrote:
Hah, which character would you want to play? Also, can you do British accents? Because if the creators are not retards, they won't allow North American accents in there - I know I'm biased and it's arbitrary, but it just wouldn't feel right.

I was thinking Jon, Robb, or Theon. Also, I think I can do a decent British accent; I'm not going to fool native Englishmen in the real world, but I can probably deliver lines convincingly enough to pass as British in a performance. Besides, I know how to go about training myself for accents. I do agree that it wouldn't feel right to have a North American accent in the show; especially not mine, which is a subtle mix of California, Chicago, and Florida.

However, I should mention that historians believe that, at least before the Norman invasion and possibly throughout much of the medieval period, the English accent sounded much like a Minnesotan or Canadian accent. It's only in the early modern period that the British developed their modern style of speech. You might have a better, more natural accent for the show than me in that respect!


Florida accent? What Florida accent?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:16 pm 
 

Shovel wrote:
Florida accent? What Florida accent?

Well, what I refer to as a Florida accent is really more a weird hybrid of southern and northern accents. It's not a very strong accent, but there's a particular sort of... relaxed pronunciation to it. People from Central Florida, anyway, seem to speak in a very leisurely fashion. In other words, it's like a typical American accent except more drawn out. It's a subtle difference that I've noticed from living in Florida and elsewhere. You're right, though, that I should have been more specific to Central Florida.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:24 pm 
 

LunarTower wrote:
Holy futzing shit, go HBO!
I'd rather it be a high budget HBO series than a bunch of shit Hollywood movies like LotR.
Thankfully it didn't end up being on the sci-fi channel instead, too. I'm fucking pumped to see how this turns out.

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Morrigan wrote:
Hah, which character would you want to play? Also, can you do British accents? Because if the creators are not retards, they won't allow North American accents in there - I know I'm biased and it's arbitrary, but it just wouldn't feel right.


I'd prefer an American accent over the "hey guys let's use British accent for every fantasy movie/show ever made", actually.
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I think that as long as whoever is playing the part doesn't have an overwhelmingly strong accent, it should not be a problem. Someone like Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt comes to mind straight away. A really 'yokel' southern US guy wouldn't be any worse than a Brummie or Geordie from the U.K.

'Neutral' accents (if that makes sense) are preferable for me. Look at many of the cast of HBO's Rome. Kevin McKidd (Vorenus) is Scottish, but it didn't sound obvious when he was speaking.

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Ha I just bought the entire Song of Ice and Fire series hopefully it doesn't come out too soon!
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rexxz wrote:
Morrigan wrote:
Hah, which character would you want to play? Also, can you do British accents? Because if the creators are not retards, they won't allow North American accents in there - I know I'm biased and it's arbitrary, but it just wouldn't feel right.


I'd prefer an American accent over the "hey guys let's use British accent for every fantasy movie/show ever made", actually.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:35 pm 
 

Morrigan wrote:
Hah, which character would you want to play?

Actually, I just remembered a few more that I neglected to mention: Viserys, Rhaegar, and Bronn. Actually, there are probably more, particularly villains, that I'm forgetting but I figure there's not much point in mentioning smaller roles, even if I would be happy playing the "third squire" or something like that.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:50 pm 
 

Thomash, well, if you are a good actor and can go through the hoops, why not give it a try. I'll root for you, for what it's worth.

Viral wrote:
After The Sopranos was laid to rest, nothing HBO has released since interests me.

Rome? Deadwood? The Wire*?

*Haven't actually watched that one, but heard nothing but praise...

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I'd prefer an American accent over the "hey guys let's use British accent for every fantasy movie/show ever made", actually.

I disagree. There is a reason they use non-American (e.g. British, Irish, Scottish or even Aussie) people and/or accents in those movies - it just feels more historical and theatrical. It's not exactly rational, after all, ancient Romans didn't speak in English, but hearing yankee accents (especially Southern USA, aka "redneck" accents -- no offense for people in the South) in Rome would have ruined the feel of the show. That's why, though I feel Josh Holloway would make a perfect Jaime, if he can't get rid of his accent, I hope they don't use him.

Besides, those accents just sound a million times cooler than our boring North American accent. :p

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I think that as long as whoever is playing the part doesn't have an overwhelmingly strong accent, it should not be a problem. Someone like Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt comes to mind straight away.

Well, I know that's not what you meant but there won't be any such big names for sure. Way too expensive and honestly, I don't want Tom Cruise anywhere near this series... or anywhere near anything, really.

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'Neutral' accents (if that makes sense) are preferable for me. Look at many of the cast of HBO's Rome. Kevin McKidd (Vorenus) is Scottish, but it didn't sound obvious when he was speaking.

It didn't sound as obvious as his role in Dog Soldiers, but it wasn't "neutral" sounding either. There is no such thing as having no accent or a "neutral" accent, anyway.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:00 pm 
 

Morrigan wrote:
Thomash, well, if you are a good actor and can go through the hoops, why not give it a try. I'll root for you, for what it's worth.

Thanks! I make no claims about my abilities other than that I've decided to pursue this as persistently as possible.

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Morrigan wrote:
I disagree. There is a reason they use non-American (e.g. British, Irish, Scottish or even Aussie) people and/or accents in those movies - it just feels more historical and theatrical. It's not exactly rational, after all, ancient Romans didn't speak in English, but hearing yankee accents (especially Southern USA, aka "redneck" accents -- no offense for people in the South) in Rome would have ruined the feel of the show. That's why, though I feel Josh Holloway would make a perfect Jaime, if he can't get rid of his accent, I hope they don't use him.

Besides, those accents just sound a million times cooler than our boring North American accent. :p


Well, it's obvious you felt the opposite way, which is why I addressed it. You don't need to state that you disagree twice! :P

I disagree with you in thinking that it sounds more historical and theatrical. I'd prefer North American accents by a far margin.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:39 pm 
 

I was just clarifying my reasons, that's all.

Why do you think American accents sound more theatrical? If anything, there's the whole Shakespeare thing going on for British accents, at least. I can't imagine why anyone would think Yankee accents would sound more historical or theatrical.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:02 pm 
 

I agree with Rexxz...the British accent thing for people in authority on American shows just feels corny now and cliched.

I can see how someone would find American accents to be more theatrical...perhaps because American shows tend to be more exaggerated and over the top than British shows?
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Given the debt ASoIaF owes to the War of the Roses and Medieval European history, I don't see a problem with utilizing British accents.

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I'd prefer an American accent over the "hey guys let's use British accent for every fantasy movie/show ever made", actually.


Which makes me wonder how many fantasy films actually use British accents? I don't recall that many really, in fact people were concerned LotR would use American accents for the men to make it more accessible.
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Certain stories need certain accents or dialects to remain faithful. If there was to be a big blockbuster production based off of a Redwall book, and the Moles didn't have Somerset accents then it would be utterly stupid. For others, it is not such a big deal I suppose.
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By the way, I've been wondering about the ages of several of the characters in ASOIAF. I know that the Stark children are supposed to be children and adolescents, but I'm not sure they're quite as young as we assume they are. In the books, they reckon age by 'name days,' which are at least a little later than birthdays. I can't remember any point in the books where Martin clarifies when name days are, so I was thinking that it might be common practice in Westeros, as in some real-world cultures, to name children a couple of years after they are born, which would make the Stark children somewhat older. I would find this a bit more believable, particularly in the cases of Robb and Jon. Any thoughts?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:10 pm 
 

I have seen no evidence that "name days" are not the same as birthdays. There are also a few specific instances of exact ages, such as Daenerys's.

The characters really are that young. It was not that unbelievable to see young men of 14 or 16 (they were considered men in the Middle Ages, and young noblewomen often got married at that age or earlier) assume positions of power or leadership that young. There are countless examples across history.

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Morrigan wrote:
The characters really are that young. It was not that unbelievable to see young men of 14 or 16 (they were considered men in the Middle Ages, and young noblewomen often got married at that age or earlier) assume positions of power or leadership that young. There are countless examples across history.

Believe me, I know; I am writing my B.A. thesis on early medieval Spain, you know. :wink:

The reason I asked was just to make sure that there was just to make sure that 'name days' = 'birthdays' for all intents and purposes. It seemed weird to me to call them 'name days' if he just meant birthdays. While it may have been the case throughout much of history that 16-year-olds were considered adults, that doesn't mean that's the way it is in the books. Martin is generally pretty historically accurate (even if he is writing fantasy), very rarely are any books completely accurate. Besides, it is fantasy, so Martin doesn't really have to adopt all the conventions of medieval European societies if he doesn't want to.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:45 pm 
 

I agree, and he doesn't, but in this case I'm fairly sure that naming days are just fancy names for birthdays (likes how he prefer to use "craven" instead of "coward", "raper" instead of "rapist" or "jape" instead of the more common "joke"), since there's nothing in the books to show otherwise. Hell, Daenerys' son is named during her pregnancy, even.

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Morrigan wrote:
I agree, and he doesn't, but in this case I'm fairly sure that naming days are just fancy names for birthdays (likes how he prefer to use "craven" instead of "coward", "raper" instead of "rapist" or "jape" instead of the more common "joke"), since there's nothing in the books to show otherwise. Hell, Daenerys' son is named during her pregnancy, even.

Good point.

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Update from the HBO producers, from the Westeros forums:

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Thanks again to everyone who has posted their casting suggestions and a special thanks to our excellent hosts here on the board for their synopses, which save us a great deal of time. It is encouraging to see that our actor/character ideas often match those of the board, and it is helpful to learn about a whole slew of actors we weren't familiar with before.

The age of the actors is a significant issue; trust us that this is something we've discussed with George since our earliest conversations (well over two years ago). None of the characters will be radically aged.

The location has not yet been finalized, but we're getting close. With any luck, George will be giving you an answer to that question before the end of the year, or very early in 2009.

Shooting dates have also not been determined yet. We're impatient, too, but as you can imagine this is an elaborate production, with large sets to be built, a huge cast to be filled, etc.

For those who would like to send resumes, videos, etc.: we hope to have a casting director in place within the next month. When we do, we'll let you know his/her name and where materials should be sent.

One last thing: our focus at the moment is on casting the pilot. So we're only worried about characters who appear in the pilot. Just so you know the pilot parameters, here's the first line of dialogue:

"We should start back."

And here's the last line:

"The things I do for love."

Sound familiar?

We think you're going to like it...

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*three or four iterations of 'YES' would've sufficed, methinks.*
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Morrigan wrote:
Update from the HBO producers, from the Westeros forums:

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Thanks again to everyone who has posted their casting suggestions and a special thanks to our excellent hosts here on the board for their synopses, which save us a great deal of time. It is encouraging to see that our actor/character ideas often match those of the board, and it is helpful to learn about a whole slew of actors we weren't familiar with before.

The age of the actors is a significant issue; trust us that this is something we've discussed with George since our earliest conversations (well over two years ago). None of the characters will be radically aged.

The location has not yet been finalized, but we're getting close. With any luck, George will be giving you an answer to that question before the end of the year, or very early in 2009.

Shooting dates have also not been determined yet. We're impatient, too, but as you can imagine this is an elaborate production, with large sets to be built, a huge cast to be filled, etc.

For those who would like to send resumes, videos, etc.: we hope to have a casting director in place within the next month. When we do, we'll let you know his/her name and where materials should be sent.

One last thing: our focus at the moment is on casting the pilot. So we're only worried about characters who appear in the pilot. Just so you know the pilot parameters, here's the first line of dialogue:

"We should start back."

And here's the last line:

"The things I do for love."

Sound familiar?

We think you're going to like it...

D&D


:hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

All I have to say is fuck yes.

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Wra1th1s wrote:
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Morrigan wrote:
Hah, which character would you want to play? Also, can you do British accents? Because if the creators are not retards, they won't allow North American accents in there - I know I'm biased and it's arbitrary, but it just wouldn't feel right.


I'd prefer an American accent over the "hey guys let's use British accent for every fantasy movie/show ever made", actually.


Me too


I can't imagine a redneck in shiny armor though! :lol:

BTW, I once acted as Adam from Genesis. Haha. I've got some other shameful roles. :lol:
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rexxz wrote:
Morrigan wrote:
Hah, which character would you want to play? Also, can you do British accents? Because if the creators are not retards, they won't allow North American accents in there - I know I'm biased and it's arbitrary, but it just wouldn't feel right.


I'd prefer an American accent over the "hey guys let's use British accent for every fantasy movie/show ever made", actually.
Agreed. Anyways, looking forward to watching it.
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You guys really like Mr. Martin, eh? I should read the first book.
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