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darkeningday
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:06 pm 
 

It's not that great anyway. There's a few good episodes but there's more stinkers than there should be in a season that's so short.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:42 pm 
 

Been watching Altered Carbon. A few thoughts:

- Lots of blatant Blade Runner ripoffery, but I guess that's fine
- Super cool visuals, including some really graphic violence (also loads of nudity if that's your thing, nearly Spartacus levels)
- The kind of silliness/corny dialogue actually sort of mesh well with the pulpy feel that cyberpunk so often has, but still it sort of clashes with the serious tone of the other aspects of the show
- The main character is a gaping void of charisma. I don't really care about him at all. His cop chick foil is also pretty dry but not as bad.
- Pretty generic plot as of a few episodes in

I'll keep watching it, but so far it seems like a lot of wasted potential.
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Being a long time reader of the Watchmen comic book series I was fairly hesitant about watching the show. I actually like it quite a bit. I don't want to post any spoilers, but I like the direction it is taking. They do a great job with backstories. Although I am not really sure if a casual t.v. viewer would enjoy it. I say that because I fear it won't last for more than a few seasons, due to its complex storyline.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:14 pm 
 

I watched the first episode of Altered Carbon and found it so generic and predictable I declared the whole show garbage and anyone who liked it objectively wrong.

On a lark, I picked it up again and now it's one of my favorite TV shows. Even if you set aside the HBO production values, it's one of the most unique sci-fi shows out there. I also came to love the lead, despite him looking like a cracked out GI Joe.

But I still think the first two episodes suck and it's hard to blame anyone for quitting early. It's like they were so afraid of overwhelming the audience with the weird-ass INSANELY complex plot and novel ideas (at least for a TV show) that they course corrected into making "edgy Blade Runner" with VO so bad it made Harrison Ford's godawful original narration sound like Dostoyevsky. But it really does turn into something pretty awesome by just a few episodes in, and never really lets up.

It's also exactly 500 billion times better than Watchman.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:17 pm 
 

Watchmen's about 500 billion times better than I expected it to be. Huge fan of the comics, thought the idea of a sequel TV series was laughable, decided to check it out anyway and now I'm fairly blown away. Also the fact it has neckbeards screaming on the internet about being "too political" and "sjw" makes it even sweeter.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:48 pm 
 

Wait, there's actually a Watchman tv show?? I thought Timeghoul was talking about AC compared to the Snyder movie lol.

I mean, Alan Moore has been a lifelong hard left activist, so if the neoreactionary internet didn't declare something based on his work "SJW cultural marxist virtue signaling for fat blue haired feminazis who've never done a hard day's work in their lives" then it's probably not faithful to his work :lol: (see: Zach Snyder).
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The Watchmen show is fucking wild in every sense of the word. It's so far out there compared to most shows and does the original book faithful by being equally as fearless. Last three eps have been fucking nuts.
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darkeningday wrote:
I mean, Alan Moore has been a lifelong hard left activist, so if the neoreactionary internet didn't declare something based on his work "SJW cultural marxist virtue signaling for fat blue haired feminazis who've never done a hard day's work in their lives" then it's probably not faithful to his work :lol: (see: Zach Snyder).


That's exactly why it's embarrassing and hilarious - anyone whining about the TV series being too leftist political obviously never bothered reading the book. The show also retcons the awful Snyder movie right off the bat in the first eppy. Did you guys know that Snyder's lately been threatening to make big budget film adaptations of Ayn Fucking Rand books? What depths will he not sink to?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:50 pm 
 

I gave Altered Carbon a go. Visually super cool, but that's all I got from it. I could just as easily watch the whole thing on mute and still get the exact same level of enjoyment out of it.
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GTog wrote:
I gave Altered Carbon a go. Visually super cool, but that's all I got from it. I could just as easily watch the whole thing on mute and still get the exact same level of enjoyment out of it.

But how much did you watch? Because the first two episodes sucked (especially the first, which caused me to prematurely drop the show) yet it's one of my favorite shows.

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I mean, Alan Moore has been a lifelong hard left activist, so if the neoreactionary internet didn't declare something based on his work "SJW cultural marxist virtue signaling for fat blue haired feminazis who've never done a hard day's work in their lives" then it's probably not faithful to his work :lol: (see: Zach Snyder).


That's exactly why it's embarrassing and hilarious - anyone whining about the TV series being too leftist political obviously never bothered reading the book. The show also retcons the awful Snyder movie right off the bat in the first eppy. Did you guys know that Snyder's lately been threatening to make big budget film adaptations of Ayn Fucking Rand books? What depths will he not sink to?

Fucking yikes though, Damon Lindelof spearheaded it? Him along with Rian Johnson and Edgar Wright are some of the only people whose work I dislike even more than Snyder.

I also kinda feel bad ragging on Snyder after his teenage daughter's suicide.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:37 am 
 

What! The Leftovers was great and Brick and Looper were both good.

I'm enjoying Watchmen a lot too.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:47 pm 
 

I never watched Lost but I liked Leftovers. As a series it wasn't totally great but it had plenty of great individual episodes. I was also pessimistic as hell re. Lindelof taking the reins of this Watchmen series, but eh, I've been won over. Let's just hope they stick the landing because obviously he's not known for spectacular endings.

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Empyreal wrote:
The Watchmen show is fucking wild in every sense of the word. It's so far out there compared to most shows and does the original book faithful by being equally as fearless. Last three eps have been fucking nuts.


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Regarding the Watchmen is Ozymandias inside the gold statue? Everything that is happening to him is all in his mind as he is in some kind of coma like state inside the statue? Is he Trieu's Father? That's the direction I am going.

Speaking of Trieu does anyone have any theories on the purpose of the Millennium Clock?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:34 am 
 

Watching new BBC's 3-part production of 'War of the Worlds'.

Not very hot one, I'm afraid, at least that is what I am going to say after the first part. It is not thrilling at all. I bet it is going to be overlong, too. Well, somehow I enjoy that Tom Cruise movie. At least it is shorter. While it happens in modern world, this new series happen in old times, so it's more like the book. I have to say, after what I've seen so far, Rafe Spall is boring as heck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, and there seems to be Fox's own version, too...
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darkeningday wrote:
GTog wrote:
I gave Altered Carbon a go. Visually super cool, but that's all I got from it. I could just as easily watch the whole thing on mute and still get the exact same level of enjoyment out of it.

But how much did you watch? Because the first two episodes sucked (especially the first, which caused me to prematurely drop the show) yet it's one of my favorite shows.


Yeah, I get that a lot from fans of this or that show. "Oh, but it gets good after...!" Look, there is exactly 0 shortage of interesting shows to watch. This ain't the era of network TV anymore. You don't get three episodes to start getting good. Get my attention or move along.
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Timeghoul wrote:
Empyreal wrote:
The Watchmen show is fucking wild in every sense of the word. It's so far out there compared to most shows and does the original book faithful by being equally as fearless. Last three eps have been fucking nuts.


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Regarding the Watchmen is Ozymandias inside the gold statue? Everything that is happening to him is all in his mind as he is in some kind of coma like state inside the statue? Is he Trieu's Father? That's the direction I am going.

Speaking of Trieu does anyone have any theories on the purpose of the Millennium Clock?


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I didn't consider that about the statue. It seems to me Ozymandias is in a prison of his own volition. He wants to be punished for what he did.

Some of the extra things on Peteypedia point to The Comedian being Trieu's father.

No idea at all what that clock is for... it's fascinating.
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GTog wrote:
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GTog wrote:
I gave Altered Carbon a go. Visually super cool, but that's all I got from it. I could just as easily watch the whole thing on mute and still get the exact same level of enjoyment out of it.

But how much did you watch? Because the first two episodes sucked (especially the first, which caused me to prematurely drop the show) yet it's one of my favorite shows.


Yeah, I get that a lot from fans of this or that show. "Oh, but it gets good after...!" Look, there is exactly 0 shortage of interesting shows to watch. This ain't the era of network TV anymore. You don't get three episodes to start getting good. Get my attention or move along.

If you want to skip over one of the most unique and mind bending sci-fi series ever made because it kicks off with a whimper instead of a bang, that's your prerogative. But I can say that once the "suicide" of James Purefoy (Mark Antony in Rome) was revealed, which happens well before the climax of the season I might add, my jaw was on the floor. Every single assumption you make about where the series is going from its seemingly pastiche and cliche opening episodes is wrong.

I also can't remember a single serialized sci-fi show that started out great from the first episode. Even for episodic ones; imagine if someone said that TNG wasn't worth your time because they watched Encounter at Far Point and The Naked Now?
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darkeningday wrote:
GTog wrote:
Yeah, I get that a lot from fans of this or that show. "Oh, but it gets good after...!" Look, there is exactly 0 shortage of interesting shows to watch. This ain't the era of network TV anymore. You don't get three episodes to start getting good. Get my attention or move along.

If you want to skip over one of the most unique and mind bending sci-fi series ever made because it kicks off with a whimper instead of a bang, that's your prerogative. But I can say that once the "suicide" of James Purefoy (Mark Antony in Rome) was revealed, which happens well before the climax of the season I might add, my jaw was on the floor. Every single assumption you make about where the series is going from its seemingly pastiche and cliche opening episodes is wrong.

I also can't remember a single serialized sci-fi show that started out great from the first episode. Even for episodic ones; imagine if someone said that TNG wasn't worth your time because they watched Encounter at Far Point and The Naked Now?

Lol yeah the whole first season of TNG blows. I'm glad I went on to the later seasons though because there was plenty of great material there.

There do seem to be a number of shows that are enjoyable overall, but you just have to muscle through the first one or two blander "set up" episodes. I was talking with a friend the other day about how there seems to be a "two episode rule" for the Marvel Netflix series, where for the most part the first two episodes of each season are pretty dull and exposition-heavy, but they distinctly pick up on the third episode onward. (The main exception to this rule is Jessica Jones season 2, which had a very intriguing first episode but turned out to be not very good at all.)

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darkeningday wrote:
If you want to skip over one of the most unique and mind bending sci-fi series ever made because it kicks off with a whimper instead of a bang, that's your prerogative. But I can say that once the "suicide" of James Purefoy (Mark Antony in Rome) was revealed, which happens well before the climax of the season I might add, my jaw was on the floor. Every single assumption you make about where the series is going from its seemingly pastiche and cliche opening episodes is wrong.

I also can't remember a single serialized sci-fi show that started out great from the first episode. Even for episodic ones; imagine if someone said that TNG wasn't worth your time because they watched Encounter at Far Point and The Naked Now?


Fair point about TNG. But that was the era of network TV, where you could get away with that shit. These days, I need episode one to give me something, right out of the gate. It doesn't have to be earth shattering. It just has to get me to episode two. Altered Carbon gave me that. Then I need episode two to give me a little more, and so on. Altered Carbon got me to episode 3.
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The X-Files episode Signs and Wonders. When a young man is found dead of a hundred snakebites Mulder and Scully follow a trail leading to an Evangelical cult of rattlesnake handlers. But when the dead man's wife turns out to be the cult leader's daughter, the question of paternity leads Mulder to a confrontation with someone who may be the devil himself!

It BAFFLES me that this episode gets such low marks!?! I never saw the twist coming, and when it arrives the theme of the entire episode is revealed - some of the best plotting of the entire series!!! The gross-out effects are good, the acting is perfect - what more can I say?!? The final scene caps the plot in a clever way... I would rate this episode the best of season 7 - maybe the best of the past three seasons!

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By the end of episode 3 of Altered Carbon I was pretty interested, although it did get better still. Different strokes I guess. But remember that network shit was supposed to be watched weekly, while Netflix episode dumps are meant for binging. This makes the shows better quality and less schlocky, but demands more from the viewer.

Speaking of quality, finally started watch Righteous Gemstones. Went in with high expectations and was not disappointed. Rather surprised at how good-natured the show is towards evangelicals. They're not cynical grifters but rather honest grifters unwilling to examine why what they do is so despicable.
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GTog, you're confusing something. Tons of stuff got cancelled in network television, TNG had a free pass thanks to first run syndication. Network TV alone sucked, if you were on Fox, you could have something as awesome as Firefly, and 13 episodes later the Fox cancelatron would say "nope, best show in the decade means nothing, we want something like Friends."
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Xenophon wrote:
darkeningday wrote:
If you want to skip over one of the most unique and mind bending sci-fi series ever made because it kicks off with a whimper instead of a bang, that's your prerogative. But I can say that once the "suicide" of James Purefoy (Mark Antony in Rome) was revealed, which happens well before the climax of the season I might add, my jaw was on the floor. Every single assumption you make about where the series is going from its seemingly pastiche and cliche opening episodes is wrong.

I also can't remember a single serialized sci-fi show that started out great from the first episode. Even for episodic ones; imagine if someone said that TNG wasn't worth your time because they watched Encounter at Far Point and The Naked Now?

Lol yeah the whole first season of TNG blows. I'm glad I went on to the later seasons though because there was plenty of great material there.

There do seem to be a number of shows that are enjoyable overall, but you just have to muscle through the first one or two blander "set up" episodes. I was talking with a friend the other day about how there seems to be a "two episode rule" for the Marvel Netflix series, where for the most part the first two episodes of each season are pretty dull and exposition-heavy, but they distinctly pick up on the third episode onward. (The main exception to this rule is Jessica Jones season 2, which had a very intriguing first episode but turned out to be not very good at all.)


I think it's been brought up in this thread twice by me alone, ha, but the first two seasons of any non-TOS Trek series tend to be borderline unwatchable. No franchise seems to go through growing pains as long as any given Trek series. Granted, any TV series tends to find it's groove seasons 2-6, and after that, nearly every TV series begins losing steam.

The Next Generation had some baffling bad episodes in the first season, including the surprisingly racist "black people planet where they abduct the white blonde woman" episode. They just straight up didn't know what to do with Deep Space 9 until the Dominion showed up in the final episode of the second season. Voyager was plain boring. Enterprise started out somewhat lifeless. Discovery, thus far, has been an unfocused mess of groan-inducing action set pieces and anachronistic on-screen technology. I'm really hoping season 3 turns things around, but I heard Pike exits the series and he was the high point so far. Cautiously optimistic for Picard... very cautiously. It sounds like CBS is hoping to hammer hard on Trek to support their unnecessary streaming service, which I refuse to support.

I always think it's amazing Firefly has such a following since it only delivered it's awkward growing phase season. I always found it to be a bit underwhelming, but it had potential. Had that series lasted, it likely would have been something incredible. The first six episodes of Bojack Horseman are better skipped, also.
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First season of Voyager was actually pretty legit. It was the second season that fell completely dropped the ball. Meld, Cold Fire and The Thaw were all classics, but everything else went from "really bad" to "the worst episodes in Star Trek and perhaps even television history. Remember that Threshold appeared in that season.
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First season of Voyager was actually pretty legit. It was the second season that fell completely dropped the ball. Meld, Cold Fire and The Thaw were all classics, but everything else went from "really bad" to "the worst episodes in Star Trek and perhaps even television history. Remember that Threshold appeared in that season.


I don't remember a lot of Voyager. There was a time when an ex-girlfriend and I were watching a lot of TV series and at one point we went through the Treks in production order (except the animated series, which I'm not certain, but may not have been streaming at the time). I remember Voyager being a patience-killing slog. It was the only Trek series that seemed like it was never going to get better, and I don't feel that it did until they allowed the Doctor to become a full character and Seven of Nine joined. And no, it wasn't because of her skin-tight outfits. She added a much-needed counter to Janeway's domineering command, her character was more interesting, and Jeri Ryan was arguably the best and most talented actor on the series. I don't remember the episode, but I remember her singing and was shocked to see how fucking good she was.

Anyway, when the ex and I were watching Voyager, we hit a fatigue point somewhere near the middle and stopped to watch something else for a while. I think we did the revival of Battlestar Galactica, which had it's own less-than-stellar opening with those, I think, initial two movies. Some very rough acting and wince-inducing moments in the start to that franchise, but then it turned into some addictive sci-fi television.

And yes, Threshold is fucking garbage. I think you're right, though, that Voyager took a dive in season 2, because, looking back, I think that's when the fatigue started. My brother and I used to ridicule the series because of the absurd number of times Janeway elected to set the self-destruct to solve their problem. Also, the ship was in simply too well maintained to be believable. They never got to return to Starfleet to get repairs, so it should've looked like a bettered wreck by the time the series ended.

Voyager also struggled by being just downright fucking dull. I'd estimate a good 50-65% of the series literally follows this formula: Ship threatened by treknobabble, treknobabble solution one tried, treknobabble solution one fails, treknobabble solution two succeeds. It's like watching the formulaic emptiness of old Voltron cartoons in which every episode was "the cat robots failed, merge to Voltron, Voltron succeeds." Every. Fucking. Episode. Yes, I know, treknobabble was persistent in the franchise since the start, but they knew how to write more dramatic stories not dependent on treknobabble to conclude the narrative. Each treknobabble solution episode is, basically, a Deus Ex Machina ending. The treknobabble should support the in-show universe, but cannot serve as the solution for problems, because it's so blatantly invented.
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I love Voyager probably as much as humanly possible, I think there are a solid fifty really great episodes. Yeah it's out of 170, but that doesn't change I love the episodes that are great.

Watched season 1 of The Boys, had fun.
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The Boys was tons of fun.

Watched the first four episodes of Future Man. Proof that weed neither makes you a better nor worse writer, rather you're unable to decipher between the two. It looks fantastic with a few laughs but it's cliche and obvious far more than a show with this much acting talent and production values should even come close to, never mind deserves. Goldberg and Rogen should either switch to coke or just hand over the giant wads of cash they get forwarded to someone with actual writing talent.
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That Bojack Horseman midseason finale... Oof.
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Trashy_Rambo wrote:
That Bojack Horseman midseason finale... Oof.

Who was he?
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Glad to say that The Expanse feels like the same show it was on SyFy.
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yeah I watched the first five episodes last night, it's really solid.
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Quantum Leap. Absolutely awesome

I was only eleven when this show started and 30 years later it holds up this show is epic. Why they only made five seasons is beyond me. This show is funny and witty with the famous Oh Boy... you should watch this if you haven't yet believe me it's not to be missed.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:55 am 
 

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Just finished the first season of The Boys myself. Fucking outstanding. Butcher and Captain Homelander are two of my favorite characters of any show this year. Holy shit are they good. But the show is filled with great characters, intense story, great twists and turns, and surprisingly good action. This is probably the most realistic portrayal of super-heroes I think I've seen. Each character is so starkly human in their flaws and egos and nuances. Believing themselves to be above everyone else. Capitalizing on their invincibility. Ultimately so dark and greedy.

This show is basically every adult conversation about superheroes. Would a guy who can be invisible need to be naked? Would he be a fucking gross pervert? Would super powers affect sex with regular people? Can anyone stand up to them? Why do we need a military if we have them? What prevents Superman from just doing whatever the fuck he wants?

I can't wait for season two. All of the supes are analogues of existing superheroes in comics, with the exception that there is no clear Batman type, as Batman has no powers. I'm curious if there'll be a Batman to counter these guys the way Batman has when Superman has gone off the rails. But Captain Homelander is too good a character. He has all of the arrogance you'd expect of an invincible man, but unlike Superman, he lacks the ignorance that he can just handle everything with power. Superman is kind of stupid, and that's why his biggest threats have always been smart people. Homelander isn't stupid. He's cunning as hell and cold as ice, all of it hidden behind that Superman smile.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:10 am 
 

As for my quantum leap comment mostly I am being sarcastic. There really are a few episodes that are definitely worth a watch but not for the most part.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:44 am 
 

I just binged the two seasons of Dark. Incredibly well done, probably the best television show I've seen in a really long time.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:18 pm 
 

Unorthodox wrote:
I just binged the two seasons of Dark. Incredibly well done, probably the best television show I've seen in a really long time.


That's a fucking gem. Can't wait for the 3rd and final season next year.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:47 pm 
 

Anyone checked out The Witcher yet? I have Netflix but I'm waiting for a 4K rip lol.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:59 pm 
 

Watched most of the Witcher (being Polish and all I felt I had to it). There are things to like in the series - Cavill is good as Geralt, the world is gritty and grim enough, the fights are often visceral and bloody, the cinematography is mostly ok. There are some flaws - if you do not know the books (because this is based on them and not on the games) than you can get lost easily. I also felt that the stories could be scripted better. What is worse is the series version of Triss - they made her a boring, flat, NPC-like character.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:31 pm 
 

Zdan wrote:
Watched most of the Witcher (being Polish and all I felt I had to it). There are things to like in the series - Cavill is good as Geralt, the world is gritty and grim enough, the fights are often visceral and bloody, the cinematography is mostly ok. There are some flaws - if you do not know the books (because this is based on them and not on the games) than you can get lost easily. I also felt that the stories could be scripted better. What is worse is the series version of Triss - they made her a boring, flat, NPC-like character.


While I definitely agree that Triss came off as very flat and boring, she really wasn't a centrepiece of this season in any way, shape, or form. I feel like once she takes the spotlight a bit, her character will really come alive in the way that literally every other character did. I have read the books and can definitely agree that it can be confusing, but what I like about that choice is that it encourages multiple viewings from people not particularly in the know. As an initial viewing, it's still spectacular if a tad confusing for the uninitiated. After a second viewing, how good it is really comes into focus. I really appreciate the dedication to remaining mostly true to the source material. It might lose a few viewers because it hasn't been streamlined like a lot of modern television, but for anyone with an appetite for an incredible fantasy series that is brutal like GoT, but also humorous, I think this show is well worth it.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:23 pm 
 

I'm enjoying it a lot. I think people need to understand what it is: well produced sword & sorcery schlock. It's not GoT, it doesn't have top-notch writing or characterization...it's more Conan/Howard than Tolkien, but something slightly in between. I don't think the critics get what it's aiming for, but I dig it.
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