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NintenTheMetalhead
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:38 am 
 

So I decided to listen to their album "Constellations" and I cannot see why this band is blacklisted. The album is very metal; it has plenty of riffs and even tremolo picking. In fact, in the breakdowns, the riffs and harmonies usually continue. There is a lot of Gothenburg melodeath influence in the guitar harmonies and riffs. I have read that the band has been blacklisted for being more "core than metal" but I do not see that at all. This album is definitely leaning toward being metal. It sounds very similar to As I Lay Dying and Killswitch Engage as well. Here are some songs from "Constellations."





This next one even has blast beats and tremolo picking, and it isn't the only song on the album that has it as well:



They also released a remixed version of Constellations this year. The remix could allow you to make a better decision on this band since the album should be clearer. I would strongly suggest a reevaluation.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:40 am 
 

Full length here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97T1Zo5-u-o

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:47 am 
 

And to these ears, sounds like Unearth too.

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:36 pm 
 

There's some aesthetic similarities to Unearth, but "Constellation" has considerably more hardcore in the music than Unearth. This album is one of those borderline cases, but I'm not sure I'd call it predominantly metal. Many of the melodic guitar parts are a few steps removed from Gothenburg death metal, but to use the Unearth comparison, "The Oncoming Storm" is mostly metal riffs with a few breakdowns, while "Constellation" is chuggy -core with melodies thrown on top, a good number of them in the Gothencore vein.

This one could use an opinion from another mod, but I'm not sure I'd call this album predominantly metal.

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TheStormIRide
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:12 pm 
 

Close but no cigar. Like Zodi said, this is more hardcore with a few metallic moments instead of the other way around.

I actually love seeing this type of stuff brought up since it was my jam back middle school.

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NintenTheMetalhead
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:26 pm 
 

Okay. I know band comparisons are looked down upon but quite frankly I just don't see how this is any more hardcore than bands that are already on here. It has the same amount of breakdowns or even less than some bands. Some call this band "melodic metalcore" and there are some bands labeled that on here. I listened to one of them (Aether) and it sounded quite a bit like this, maybe with even more breakdowns. But I guess it's your call.

Still though, I understand Demon Hunter's rejection more than this one.
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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:08 am 
 

That's probably because all it takes to be acceptable isnthat one album that's more metal. So bands can have a huge non-metal discography but end up on here because of that one record that happened to be riffier than everything else.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:05 am 
 

Can be re-evaluated based on their last album ?

Full album here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 9T_VKtkT01

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:09 am 
 

Post here: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=124394
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:16 am 
 

Can be re-evaluated again based on their last album ?

Full album here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=O ... =1&index=1

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NintenTheMetalhead
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:39 pm 
 

I didn't listen to the whole album, but I listened to the song "Invisible Enemy" from that album and I don't think that song specifically is really acceptable, especially if Constellations isn't acceptable. Maybe the rest of the album might be different though, idk.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:45 pm 
 

Listen the full length.

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:28 pm 
 

First of all: you're starting to get a bit annoying, would be cool if you could turn that down a little.

Secondly: That does still sound like metallic Hardcore...not hardcore-y metal. Given that I'm not the best at this core-stuff, but I wouldn't have submitted that. I welcome the other mods to prove me wrong here, though (or back me up *cough*).
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:14 pm 
 

Paganiusl, with your revaluation and opinion based on their last album, costs and is enough. Another moderators do not have to come to tell me the same, this re-evaluation was fine with you. Thanks!

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Bonziepsycho
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:14 pm 
 

Can they be re-evaluated based on their most recent album?

https://music.amazon.com/albums/B083ZPH ... phfa_xx_xx
https://open.spotify.com/album/3KJ44LRyBaBsZi2eW79pCV

It's still somewhat borderline, but I think it's much more melodic on their part than previous albums.
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Voice_Of_Steel
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:01 pm 
 

Bumping because the red check mark hasn't been removed yet.

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NintenTheMetalhead
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:39 am 
 

They probably won't remove it unless the album does qualify.
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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:36 am 
 

Do you know what a week is?
*Removes checkmark out of pure annoyance* :P

Eros: i dont feel like bumping this to the top again, changed the flag to red and my vote is not metal. case should be closed now, that's three no votes on the album brought up for reevaluation.
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camjr01
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:30 am 
 

Hey everyone, I was looking through the back catalog of this band and I'm listening to this band's debut EP Looks Fragile After All. I figured I should just let the mods know so they can evaluate it, just in case this is acceptable. I'm also currently listening to this band's discography so I might pop in with another release later on, I hope that isn't a problem. Anyways, here's a link to the EP: https://youtu.be/u1jv0yja3sA Also, if the mods could please tell me what albums they've looked at besides Constellations and Phantom Anthem (if any) that would be helpful to me.
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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:21 am 
 

The EP isn't metal and we listened to all their albums.

Unless they release something new that's significantly more metal than anything they released so far, they won't be acceptable.
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igortessele
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:26 pm 
 

ABR was always a generic metalcore band, I can see that, but is seems that threir last couple of songs from they'r upcoming album are going to a more metal path, with lot of melodeath and less metalcore/chug chug stuff. Is ABR ready to join Metallum ? (here's their latest song)

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Auselesspileofflesh
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:42 pm 
 

Duplicate post
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=124394&p=2898627&hilit=August+Burns+Red#p2898627

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Quorthallis
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:14 am 
 

Topics merged. Use the search function and post in the existing thread next time.

We don't evaluate upcoming releases, so you'll have to wait until March 24th and then post in this thread again.

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goflotsam
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:47 am 
 

New album finally out.

Link: https://open.spotify.com/album/7sgJqz58 ... RRiB2H57Qw

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camjr01
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:02 am 
 

Is this metal enough? Could I submit this?
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thejollyroger
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:31 pm 
 

Hey mods, Ive found a duplicate thread here
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=124485

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:22 am 
 

goflotsam wrote:

Still too far on the -core side of things, sorry.

camjr01 wrote:
Is this metal enough? Could I submit this?

That's not how appeals work. The appealer gets the right to submit the band when the appeal is succesful.

thejollyroger wrote:
Hey mods, Ive found a duplicate thread here
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=124485

Merged.

On a general note:
DO NOT BOTHER appealing this band again, unless a future album sounds SIGNIFICANTLY more metal than any of the previous ones (including this one).
Saves you the time submitting an appeal and saves multiple mods a fair amount of time listening to (essentially) the same music over and over again. Thanks :)
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igortessele
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:56 pm 
 

Moderators seems to have some hate this bands, becaus this album is like 70% melodic death metal

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:52 pm 
 

igortessele wrote:
Moderators seems to have some hate this bands, becaus this album is like 70% melodic death metal

Respecting/tolerating the decisions of the moderators is one of the first steps to co-existence and peace on MA.
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Alex Hellhammer
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:01 pm 
 

I think this needs to be revisited. This album is of with a metal twist.
https://deathbelow.bandcamp.com/album/death-below

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Quorthallis
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:36 pm 
 

See the third post above yours.

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igortessele
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:28 pm 
 

Their new album is more metal than core
https://open.spotify.com/intl-pt/album/ ... JfJaC7S88U


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Quorthallis
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:20 pm 
 

What part of this was not clear to you?
Quorthallis wrote:
Topics merged. Use the search function and post in the existing thread next time.

Seriously don't make duplicate threads again or you might get banned from the forum.

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