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odium
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:59 am 
 

What's the reason for black-listing Elderwinter from Russia? Don't know much about their previous releases, but the new EP sounds like traditional black metal to me:

https://elderwinter.bandcamp.com/album/ ... darkness-2

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Uncolored
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:30 am 
 

odium wrote:
What's the reason for black-listing Elderwinter from Russia?


plagiarism. they stole from emperor, darkthrone, burzum ecc...
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NecrodevilEvilous
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:38 pm 
 

Elderwinter, black metal band from Chernykhovsk, Russia was previously blacklisted (seems for "plagiarism") - and I contacted Feanor, the project's main member, and he described the situation - on his early demo "All Roads Lead to Darkness" he used some elements of the riffs from other bands (Emperor, Darkthrone and Burzum) - but the songs were original in composition and borrowed only some riffs - and only on some songs.

Anyway Feanor says he is regretting doing that because he was immature and just started playing music then - but except this release (which is anyway not fully "plagiarized" - just more like borrowed some riffs) Elderwinter doing fully original music - and especially it can be heard on the latest EP "Under the Influence of Necromancy":

https://elderwinter.bandcamp.com/album/ ... necromancy

So by other standards I think the band definitely suits being here - so thanks in advance!


Last edited by PaganiusI on Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Quorthallis
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Joined: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:40 am
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:13 pm 
 

NecrodevilEvilous wrote:
Elderwinter, black metal band from Chernykhovsk, Russia was previously blacklisted (seems for "plagiarism")

Yes, that's true. viewtopic.php?f=27&t=124910&hilit=elderwinter

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NecrodevilEvilous
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:24 pm 
 

But, as I wrote above, Feanor, the band's main members, described the situation (it was not fully plagiarized but just used some riffs/inspired by for some songs only on one demo "All Roads Lead to Darkness") - and anyway (and I think it's really important) he says he is regretting doing this with this demo (by his own words he was "immature and stupid") - and after this Elderwinter released all original stuff.

So I think we need to mention the info from above for "All Roads Lead to Darkness" - and anyway all other releases are completely original - and if you ask me are real good quality for a black metal project.

So regarding all info I think it will be fair to add the Elderwinter to the database.

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Quorthallis
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:54 pm 
 

Don't mind me. I've just bumped the link for a topic merger that's all. On that note, when you use a search function and find that there is already a topic for the band you want to appeal, it would be a good idea to use that existing topic instead of making a new one.

I can't comment on anything you said since I'm not a mod. So if you see a comment in your appeal from someone who is not a mod you don't have to give an answer. Pretty much you can just ignore it.

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:12 pm 
 

Topics merged.

We're discussing this.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:54 am 
 

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