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Dead Tree Group
Mallcore Kid

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:42 am 
 

Hello!

I´m trying to create a band site for the band Outshine from Gothenburg, Sweden but it states the band is blacklisted. Don´t know why? It is a known band that has been around for many years.

The band was formed in 1996, done 7 US tours, 2 European tours with Paradise Lost and released albums through GAIN/SONY, Sound Pollution and Dead Tree Music throughout the years. They are now in place to release a new album during 2021.

Info: http://www.outshineofficial.com

Latest video "Nightcall" has more than 1.000.000 views on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr79glM ... e=emb_logo

Can you help me to correct any issues?

Best,
Jimmy - Dead Tree Group


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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:57 am 
 

Currently blacklisted for being "poppy" goth rock, but that was in 2013.
Have they released a metal album since then?
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ThStealthK
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:53 am 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
Currently blacklisted for being "poppy" goth rock, but that was in 2013.
Have they released a metal album since then?

This was their last album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqR38cHFf2Q
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?stor ... n__=%2AW-R
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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:55 am 
 

That's not what I asked for...

Maybe leave it to the appealer to elaborate on their case instead of dumping random links.
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Quorthallis
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Joined: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:40 am
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:34 pm 
 

ThStealthK wrote:
PaganiusI wrote:
Currently blacklisted for being "poppy" goth rock, but that was in 2013.
Have they released a metal album since then?

This was their last album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqR38cHFf2Q
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?stor ... n__=%2AW-R

Not trying to be a mini-mod or anything like that, but ThStealthK provided a valid link for the whole album and it can be streamed on YouTube in its entirety. However, there is one problem here and that is that the album in question isn't really metal at least in my opinion. It's in the same vein as the albums released before it for which they got blacklisted in the first place. So if those albums didn't qualify as metal, I don't think this one should qualify. In my opinion, there are some metal elements in there but not enough to justify their inclusion. If it were up to me I would say no, they haven't released any metal albums since 2013, but it's your call to make, not mine.

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Since I can see that you are the guitarist of the band in question maybe you should elaborate on the case since on the band's Facebook it says in about section "Dark, Melodic, Gothic Metal from Gothenburg, Sweden." while in additional information it says "Dark, melancholy gloomy rock based in Sweden." which are two completely different things. https://www.facebook.com/pg/outshineoff ... e_internal

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:54 pm 
 

Quorthallis wrote:
Not trying to be a mini-mod or anything like that, but ThStealthK provided a valid link for the whole album and it can be streamed on YouTube in its entirety. However, there is one problem here and that is that the album in question isn't really metal at least in my opinion. It's in the same vein as the albums released before it for which they got blacklisted in the first place. So if those albums didn't qualify as metal, I don't think this one should qualify. In my opinion, there are some metal elements in there but not enough to justify their inclusion. If it were up to me I would say no, they haven't released any metal albums since 2013, but it's your call to make, not mine.

Exactly. I didn't ask for their latest album, I asked for a metal album which the appealer should be able to provide since that's why he's making that appeal (usually) in the first place.

I know you guys mean well and your effort is of course appreciated, but sometimes people just miss the point. Just a heads up to maybe give the appealer more time to elaborate on his case on his own before trying to help out.
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Dead Tree Group
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:14 am 
 

Hello, thank you for the input and comments and also the remarks!

The style has fluctuated during the years and has been branded both metal and heavy rock depending on the listener. Do I understand it correctly that the style of the band is not "Metal" in your perspective then?

There is a new album coming up 2021 that I believe should be branded "Metal", should I provide you a hidden link for an editorial view?

Best regards,
Jimmy

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:01 am 
 

We (the mod team) have not yet listened to any of the post-2013 albums because I wanted to wait for your input on what's the band's most metal album (in your opinion).

As for your other offer, we don't judge bands based on upcoming albums, so you'd have to wait for it to release before bringing it up here.

Cheers :)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:35 am 
 

Great, thanks for the info.

Then lets check when the album is out.

Cheers!

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:34 am 
 

Marking it red until someone wants to point out a metal release.
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