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KathaarianBlood
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:13 pm 
 

The band has been added together with website links and bandcamp songs, together with full album stream. Still it was rejected a few times by moderator. There's plenty of other bands, that were submitted having literally no record on the account. Question is, do they want the physical copy? If yes, where to send it.

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KathaarianBlood
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:00 pm 
 

https://youtu.be/TExoPs_2du8

Full album stream from Official band account on YouTube. Moderator claims that's unofficial.

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:06 pm 
 

There's no need to send us a physical copy.
The issue is that there is no valid release.
As I told you, a youtube stream is not a valid release by our standards and only 2 of the 4 songs are on bandcamp.

What you should also consider is that ther are in fact not "plenty of other bands" with no record (or at least there shouldn't be). Just because there is nothing listed in their discography doesn't mean they don't have a valid release. Usually that simply means there is one crucial bit of information missing to add the release to their discography which is why they are only mentioned in the band's additional notes.
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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:07 pm 
 

KathaarianBlood wrote:
https://youtu.be/TExoPs_2du8

Full album stream from Official band account on YouTube. Moderator claims that's unofficial.

Never claimed it was not official, I simply told you that we don't consider a Youtube stream to be a valid release based solely on our standardsas you can read here:
https://www.metal-archives.com/news/view/id/272
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KathaarianBlood
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:52 pm 
 

What that means. Upload full album on bandcamp with a demo cover? I'm really worried about the future releases with such a strict moderation. For example Spirit of Metal is adding bands to their database without that suspicious security checks. Noone is trying to rob you. YouTube stream is official.

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Witcher
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Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:27 am
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Location: Czech Republic
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:30 pm 
 

I am not a moderator, but yI wold advice you to read the rulesof the website. it's not a matter of security checks, it's a matter of what is considered a valid relase by the site standars . The Spirit Of Metal site has other , very low standards, an thet's their own choice. iIt also shows something about the quality of their database, something quite negative. This site has however other standards, as shwn below:
https://www.metal-archives.com/content/rules

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KathaarianBlood
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:38 pm 
 

F knows. Seems like we have to produce physical record. YouTube site no good. For f sake tell us what we need to upload to be on this site. We just don't know. Phantom hate whatsoever.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:48 pm 
 

You have it all explained in the site rules, to which I have pointed you. It's under the headline va"valid albums" only, there you have explained , what proofs you need for a valid album. Digital album must have a cover and must be either downloadable from an official source, or be streamable from sites like Spotiy and a few other mentioned there. Youtube is not among them and streams on Youtube are explicitly described as unvalid and unacceptable.

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 1:57 pm 
 

It's all written there, either in the rules or the news post I posted above.
It's not really a strict system we have currently. Stricter than Spirit of Metal, sure, but that's because SoM is more a metal community with some sorta database attached. We're the other way around.
All we need is a release that is either
a) physical (CD, Tape,...)
b) a download (Bandcamp, iTunes)
c) streamable on a major platform that was actually designed for this exact purpose (Spotify, Deezer)

Youtube is one of the very few sources we don't consider valid because it's first and foremost a video hosting platform.
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KathaarianBlood
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:47 pm 
 

Downloadable version is available on bandcamp website ‎(4xFile, FLAC, Album).

https://incrustation.bandcamp.com/album/iconoclast

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KathaarianBlood
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:11 am 
 

The logo has been changed in an odd way and it isn't official. Perhaps moderator can regain original band logo.

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:24 am 
 

Feel free to resubmit your band.
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Quorthallis
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:27 am 
 

The band is already approved. https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/In ... 3540485087

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:07 pm 
 

even better.
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