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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:43 pm 
 

Hog wrote:
The rules do seem strange for a site purporting to be encyclopedic.

I just found a band from Surrey also called Kraken with no releases listed yet I submitted info about a band with confirmed releases also called Kraken and it wasn't accepted.

No offence guys but you are not being consistent with your criteria which will affect the sites creditbility.

Hope you get it sorted.
It's a great idea but until the info is reliable you can't compete with existing info sources

Also another one for you to consider: Clive Burr (ex Maiden) was never a member of Elixir - he was only ever a hired gun. AKA session drummer.
I spoke with him less than 10 minutes ago to confirm this.
The band used his name on the sleee without his permission.

Best of luck
Hog.


All bands named Kraken listed here have releases. I have explained to you, that the release was not a valid one. You have to prove the existence of the demo and provide songsamples.
As for Clive Burr, it depends. he was listed as a member on the CD and so he will be listed as such here. Word of mouth will not change it, official written statement from him or the band or an interview in some established fanzine might.
It is not like he would not play on the album.

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northern_order
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:52 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
northern_order wrote:
Fanfarigoule wrote:
From Decrepit Spectre's MySpace:
The Graveriders will release their first exclusively limited MCD through Paradigms records, December the 24th.

Read the rules before complaining about anything and making groundless accusations towards mods. This is really the minimum.
Same for Dreaming Dead. Not released yet.


So because the release date is 2 days away you wont accept it? Both bands have released demos in the past, i thought that would at least be enough.

talk about being anal, you guys have a shitload of bands that dont even have any releases or even a link, but i guess that only matters when you want it to matter, huh?

You have not proven anything about them having physical demos.
Except for reading the rules (rule 7, for you), you argue about it, even if you do not know anything about them? Terrible.

That they do not have a link does not mean they have not released anything.
We do not have shitloads of bands that have no releases, stop lying.
If you will behave in this way, you can finish here pretty soon, trust me.

What, you want me to take a picture of the demos just to prove a point? give me a break, i got better shit to do with my day, the only reason i bother to add those bands is because i think this site is a great way of finding new bands and i thought more people needed to know about them.

And why would i lie about that? Am i trying to impress or prove a point to any of you, no, i could care less, i was just point out a fact, i could go and post a "shitload" of links to bands that dont have any releases, but like i said, i got better shit to do.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:52 pm 
 

BlackMetalGirl wrote:
I hope that adding VA compilations will be implemented in version 2.0!


Certainly not.

http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... 34&start=0


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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:56 pm 
 

northern_order wrote:
Witcher wrote:
northern_order wrote:
Fanfarigoule wrote:
From Decrepit Spectre's MySpace:
The Graveriders will release their first exclusively limited MCD through Paradigms records, December the 24th.

Read the rules before complaining about anything and making groundless accusations towards mods. This is really the minimum.
Same for Dreaming Dead. Not released yet.


So because the release date is 2 days away you wont accept it? Both bands have released demos in the past, i thought that would at least be enough.

talk about being anal, you guys have a shitload of bands that dont even have any releases or even a link, but i guess that only matters when you want it to matter, huh?

You have not proven anything about them having physical demos.
Except for reading the rules (rule 7, for you), you argue about it, even if you do not know anything about them? Terrible.

That they do not have a link does not mean they have not released anything.
We do not have shitloads of bands that have no releases, stop lying.
If you will behave in this way, you can finish here pretty soon, trust me.

What, you want me to take a picture of the demos just to prove a point? give me a break, i got better shit to do with my day, the only reason i bother to add those bands is because i think this site is a great way of finding new bands and i thought more people needed to know about them.

And why would i lie about that? Am i trying to impress or prove a point to any of you, no, i could care less, i was just point out a fact, i could go and post a "shitload" of links to bands that dont have any releases, but like i said, i got better shit to do.

You word is not enough. If you bothered to finally read the rules, you would know it. If you cannot provide proofs, do not submit bands. The rules are clear. If you want to add anything, then you have to respect them and know them.

As for the bands without releases, stop pulling things out of your ass. There are no such bands. You have big mouth, but nothing behind it.

http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... 08&start=0
If there still were some, we would see them in the thread above. There are bands with demos listed in additional notes, but those are valid demos we know about from fanzines, e-zines, distros etc.

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Hog
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:01 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
As for Clive Burr, it depends. he was listed as a member on the CD and so he will be listed as such here. Word of mouth will not change it, official written statement from him or the band or an interview in some established fanzine might.
It is not like he would not play on the album.


It depends!!!
LOL

You can believe what you want.
As long as you perpetuate this BS your credibility is shot.

How about you contacting either Sanctuary or Clive via the website and confirming it for yourselves.

As the previous poster said there are more important things in my day than trying to convince you some of your info is incorrect!

Good luck.

Hog.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:07 pm 
 

Hog wrote:
Witcher wrote:
As for Clive Burr, it depends. he was listed as a member on the CD and so he will be listed as such here. Word of mouth will not change it, official written statement from him or the band or an interview in some established fanzine might.
It is not like he would not play on the album.


It depends!!!
LOL

You can believe what you want.
As long as you perpetuate this BS your credibility is shot.

How about you contacting either Sanctuary or Clive via the website and confirming it for yourselves.

As the previous poster said there are more important things in my day than trying to convince you some of your info is incorrect!

Good luck.

Hog.

So our credibility is shot, because we have Clive Burr listed according to the Cd booklet? :lol:
He even played with them live - see their webpage. So at least for some time, he was a member, apparently not for long.

Again, you did not bother to read our rules about reports and their sources.

You should back up your claims, we only validate, what is reported.

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northern_order
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:17 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
northern_order wrote:
Witcher wrote:
northern_order wrote:
Fanfarigoule wrote:
From Decrepit Spectre's MySpace:
The Graveriders will release their first exclusively limited MCD through Paradigms records, December the 24th.

Read the rules before complaining about anything and making groundless accusations towards mods. This is really the minimum.
Same for Dreaming Dead. Not released yet.


So because the release date is 2 days away you wont accept it? Both bands have released demos in the past, i thought that would at least be enough.

talk about being anal, you guys have a shitload of bands that dont even have any releases or even a link, but i guess that only matters when you want it to matter, huh?

You have not proven anything about them having physical demos.
Except for reading the rules (rule 7, for you), you argue about it, even if you do not know anything about them? Terrible.

That they do not have a link does not mean they have not released anything.
We do not have shitloads of bands that have no releases, stop lying.
If you will behave in this way, you can finish here pretty soon, trust me.

What, you want me to take a picture of the demos just to prove a point? give me a break, i got better shit to do with my day, the only reason i bother to add those bands is because i think this site is a great way of finding new bands and i thought more people needed to know about them.

And why would i lie about that? Am i trying to impress or prove a point to any of you, no, i could care less, i was just point out a fact, i could go and post a "shitload" of links to bands that dont have any releases, but like i said, i got better shit to do.

You word is not enough. If you bothered to finally read the rules, you would know it. If you cannot provide proofs, do not submit bands. The rules are clear. If you want to add anything, then you have to respect them and know them.

As for the bands without releases, stop pulling things out of your ass. There are no such bands. You have big mouth, but nothing behind it.

http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... 08&start=0
If there still were some, we would see them in the thread above. There are bands with demos listed in additional notes, but those are valid demos we know about from fanzines, e-zines, distros etc.


Like i said, i have nothing to prove here, but thanks for making yourself just look like an ass, you say there arent any bands like that, and immediately follow it by posting a thread about bands without any releases, haha, and im pretty sure you did not solve all of them.

Anyways, im done, its not a big deal anyways, its just a loss for your website.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:20 pm 
 

northern_order wrote:
Witcher wrote:
northern_order wrote:
Witcher wrote:
northern_order wrote:
Fanfarigoule wrote:
From Decrepit Spectre's MySpace:
The Graveriders will release their first exclusively limited MCD through Paradigms records, December the 24th.

Read the rules before complaining about anything and making groundless accusations towards mods. This is really the minimum.
Same for Dreaming Dead. Not released yet.


So because the release date is 2 days away you wont accept it? Both bands have released demos in the past, i thought that would at least be enough.

talk about being anal, you guys have a shitload of bands that dont even have any releases or even a link, but i guess that only matters when you want it to matter, huh?

You have not proven anything about them having physical demos.
Except for reading the rules (rule 7, for you), you argue about it, even if you do not know anything about them? Terrible.

That they do not have a link does not mean they have not released anything.
We do not have shitloads of bands that have no releases, stop lying.
If you will behave in this way, you can finish here pretty soon, trust me.

What, you want me to take a picture of the demos just to prove a point? give me a break, i got better shit to do with my day, the only reason i bother to add those bands is because i think this site is a great way of finding new bands and i thought more people needed to know about them.

And why would i lie about that? Am i trying to impress or prove a point to any of you, no, i could care less, i was just point out a fact, i could go and post a "shitload" of links to bands that dont have any releases, but like i said, i got better shit to do.

You word is not enough. If you bothered to finally read the rules, you would know it. If you cannot provide proofs, do not submit bands. The rules are clear. If you want to add anything, then you have to respect them and know them.

As for the bands without releases, stop pulling things out of your ass. There are no such bands. You have big mouth, but nothing behind it.

http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... 08&start=0
If there still were some, we would see them in the thread above. There are bands with demos listed in additional notes, but those are valid demos we know about from fanzines, e-zines, distros etc.


Like i said, i have nothing to prove here, but thanks for making yourself just look like an ass, you say there arent any bands like that, and immediately follow it by posting a thread about bands without any releases, haha, and im pretty sure you did not solve all of them.

Anyways, im done, its not a big deal anyways, its just a loss for your website.

You did not bother to look at the thread, it contains bands, that have valid relesases in their additional notes. all bands without releases were cleansed up long time ago. Work on your reading comprehension.

It is no loss for our website, because other users, who are able to comprehend the written rules, will add them when the albums are out. How was that about making an ass out of oneself?

What Derigin wrote in the thread:

It's tied to the database, so it is automatically updated. This occurs when releases have been added to bands which previously had their releases listed only in the additional notes and the additional notes are cleared of such information (these bands are automatically removed from the list), or when a new band is added to the site, where its releases are only listed in the additional notes (these bands are automatically added to the list).

The latter occurs, as Witcher already stated, because the releases of some bands are known, but at the time of addition to the site, have little known information otherwise (the tracklist of the release, for example, which is required for a release to be added to the site correctly). This occurs typically for demo bands and obscure bands, but also for bands (say, a thrash band that played only in 1985) that have obviously limited information online. These bands are typically known though zines.

This "bands without releases" thread is not unlike the "incorrectly added splits" thread, which can also be found in this forum. The dedicated contributors to this site typically tend to work on both lists slowly - whenever they have the time to do so. Give it time, and this thread may be lively again; that's partly why it is a sticky. Keep it mind also, I suppose, that updating this list doesn't require you to post anything in this thread. You can go ahead and add releases to bands, perhaps (if you're a Veteran) clear their additional notes of such information, and it will be removed from the list automatically. So while this thread may seem dead, it doesn't mean the list isn't being worked on.

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Now how to call someone who constantly repeats something which is blatantly not true, despite being proven by visible proofs to be wrong?

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Hog
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:33 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Hog wrote:
Witcher wrote:
As for Clive Burr, it depends. he was listed as a member on the CD and so he will be listed as such here. Word of mouth will not change it, official written statement from him or the band or an interview in some established fanzine might.
It is not like he would not play on the album.


It depends!!!
LOL

You can believe what you want.
As long as you perpetuate this BS your credibility is shot.

How about you contacting either Sanctuary or Clive via the website and confirming it for yourselves.

As the previous poster said there are more important things in my day than trying to convince you some of your info is incorrect!

Good luck.

Hog.

So our credibility is shot, because we have Clive Burr listed according to the Cd booklet? :lol:
He even played with them live - see their webpage. So at least for some time, he was a member, apparently not for long.

Again, you did not bother to read our rules about reports and their sources.

You should back up your claims, we only validate, what is reported.


For what it's worth - I speak the truth and you have to do very little research to establish this.
If you chose not to that is up to you.

I truly wish you luck with this project as the idea is a good one.
But if you do not validate what you are given you will end up with more BS than truth.

One last time for the record and then I'm outta here!
Clive Burr was never a member of Elixir he was a hired gun.
The CD cover was printed without his permission.
I spoke with him this evening and he confirmed this.


Best wishes all

Hog.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:35 pm 
 

Thank you for your input, northern_order, but that's enough now. We postponed accepting Alestorm for a long while because we want to follow the rules and allow no exceptions, and neither of those bands has even Alestorm's stature. Your bands may well be metal, and they may well release their stuff two days from now, but they haven't done so yet.

Please stop whining, read the rules and have a beer. It's not the end of the world, and we need to have rules and enforce them for obvious reasons.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:32 pm 
 

Sanguine Pluit was apparently previously rejected.

Why?

http://www.myspace.com/sanguinepluit

It sure as hell is metal and it does have physical releases.

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BlackMetalGirl
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:19 am 
 

BlackMetalGirl wrote:
Hi guys, i've tried to submit the band The Brainwash, and i found they were previously rejected.
In my opinion they have the requirements to be in the Archive because their music is Heavy/Thrash Metal with some Punk influences, and their releases actually exists.
To give you an opinion:
http://www.myspace.com/thebrainwash

http://www.thebrainwash.it/

In the offivial site, under the discography section, you can find songs gor every demo!

Just let me know!!

bye!!!


Up this post. Any mod opinion?
bye guys!

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:06 am 
 

BlackMetalGirl wrote:
BlackMetalGirl wrote:
Hi guys, i've tried to submit the band The Brainwash, and i found they were previously rejected.
In my opinion they have the requirements to be in the Archive because their music is Heavy/Thrash Metal with some Punk influences, and their releases actually exists.
To give you an opinion:
http://www.myspace.com/thebrainwash

http://www.thebrainwash.it/

In the offivial site, under the discography section, you can find songs gor every demo!

Just let me know!!

bye!!!


Up this post. Any mod opinion?
bye guys!

You can submit it, if it has a physical release.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:10 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
BlackMetalGirl wrote:
BlackMetalGirl wrote:
Hi guys, i've tried to submit the band The Brainwash, and i found they were previously rejected.
In my opinion they have the requirements to be in the Archive because their music is Heavy/Thrash Metal with some Punk influences, and their releases actually exists.
To give you an opinion:
http://www.myspace.com/thebrainwash

http://www.thebrainwash.it/

In the offivial site, under the discography section, you can find songs gor every demo!

Just let me know!!

bye!!!


Up this post. Any mod opinion?
bye guys!

You can submit it, if it has a physical release.


Yep, they have! Noe i provide to submit!
Bye!!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:21 am 
 

Reign_of_Praine wrote:
Sanguine Pluit was apparently previously rejected.

Why?

http://www.myspace.com/sanguinepluit

It sure as hell is metal and it does have physical releases.


So what has been released? Would that be "New Track" or "Untitled Track1" on the myspace page? Certainly seems like peculiar track titles for released material.

Include all pertinent information in your submission.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:23 am 
 

So i got a question...my band Northern Order has been broken up for about 2 years now, and id love to add it to this website but there is noway for me to prove we released our demo, especially since even in our heydays, we just burned it in a cd-r. So is this a hopeless question, or are there ways around it?
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:27 am 
 

northern_order wrote:
So i got a question...my band Northern Order has been broken up for about 2 years now, and id love to add it to this website but there is noway for me to prove we released our demo, especially since even in our heydays, we just burned it in a cd-r. So is this a hopeless question, or are there ways around it?

There ae no "ways around it", unless the deemo was reviewd in some fanzine, which would prove its existence.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:51 pm 
 

Greetings

I had just resubmitted my old band Gallows Hill to the Encyclopaedia; it was rejected due to "lack of information, or this band has no apparent discography". When I resubmitted, I forgot to include the photo I took of the physical release and I apologize for any annoyance/inconvenience I've caused.

Here's the picture:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v450/ ... 1_0425.jpg

As for the website, all I could submit was the MySpace page the former keyboardist put up, as the original webpage has been lost in cyberspace for years now.

Anyways, thank you for your time and consideration.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:07 pm 
 

ogmetal wrote:
Reign_of_Praine wrote:
Sanguine Pluit was apparently previously rejected.

Why?

http://www.myspace.com/sanguinepluit

It sure as hell is metal and it does have physical releases.


So what has been released? Would that be "New Track" or "Untitled Track1" on the myspace page? Certainly seems like peculiar track titles for released material.

Include all pertinent information in your submission.


I did. It got rejected before, though, and didn't appear in the queue. That's what I would like to know.

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hi, we tried to submit our band , Hunbatz (Mex), to Metal Archives and was rejected, it says that we need a physical proof that we aren't a ficticious band. We have already released a home-made demo this year, the first release of the band, with 2 tracks that are in our MySpace, it was limited to 60 copies delivered to fans and friend bands, such as Black Torment (Mex), we send a pic showing the demo disc haha during the submit. Waiting for your answer, Thanks and stay heavy

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:36 pm 
 

Why was Satanic Scums rejected? I have their 2008 full-length and it is symphonic black metal with synthesized instruments ala Echoes Of Silence. The music is pretty clearly symphonic black metal despite the choice of synth instruments. I can upload the album if desired.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:56 am 
 

Noktorn wrote:
Why was Satanic Scums rejected? I have their 2008 full-length and it is symphonic black metal with synthesized instruments ala Echoes Of Silence. The music is pretty clearly symphonic black metal despite the choice of synth instruments. I can upload the album if desired.

No band with synth instruments is metal. Metal is guitar based music. Stuff like this will not get listed, whatever you may do. The music is pretty clearly as heavy as Erasure, no matter what they try to emulate.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =227905014
How do you even dare to call something like this metal??


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:58 am 
 

hunbatz wrote:
hi, we tried to submit our band , Hunbatz (Mex), to Metal Archives and was rejected, it says that we need a physical proof that we aren't a ficticious band. We have already released a home-made demo this year, the first release of the band, with 2 tracks that are in our MySpace, it was limited to 60 copies delivered to fans and friend bands, such as Black Torment (Mex), we send a pic showing the demo disc haha during the submit. Waiting for your answer, Thanks and stay heavy

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Myspace does not prove anything, neither does computer created "cover".
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:02 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Noktorn wrote:
Why was Satanic Scums rejected? I have their 2008 full-length and it is symphonic black metal with synthesized instruments ala Echoes Of Silence. The music is pretty clearly symphonic black metal despite the choice of synth instruments. I can upload the album if desired.

No band with synth instruments is metal. Metal is guitar based music. Stuff like this will not get listed, whatever you may do. The music is pretty clearly as heavy as Erasure, no matter what they try to emulate.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =227905014
How do you even dare to call something like this metal??

That singer reminds me of Frieza from Dragon Ball Z. :lol:
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:08 am 
 

Would Place Vendome be accepted under the side-project rule? Melodic rock side of project of three Pink Cream 69 members, Gunter Werno from Vanden Plas and Michael Kiske, with one album released internationally on Fronteirs Records.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:29 am 
 

Radagast wrote:
Would Place Vendome be accepted under the side-project rule? Melodic rock side of project of three Pink Cream 69 members, Gunter Werno from Vanden Plas and Michael Kiske, with one album released internationally on Fronteirs Records.

No.
Its status as side project is questionable, the musicians were more a session ones. The songs were written by Frontiers boss for Kiske.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:54 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Radagast wrote:
Would Place Vendome be accepted under the side-project rule? Melodic rock side of project of three Pink Cream 69 members, Gunter Werno from Vanden Plas and Michael Kiske, with one album released internationally on Fronteirs Records.

No.
Its status as side project is questionable, the musicians were more a session ones. The songs were written by Frontiers boss for Kiske.

The first album was actually written by Dennis Ward but fair enough.

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Noktorn
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:46 am 
 

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Why was Satanic Scums rejected? I have their 2008 full-length and it is symphonic black metal with synthesized instruments ala Echoes Of Silence. The music is pretty clearly symphonic black metal despite the choice of synth instruments. I can upload the album if desired.

No band with synth instruments is metal. Metal is guitar based music. Stuff like this will not get listed, whatever you may do. The music is pretty clearly as heavy as Erasure, no matter what they try to emulate.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =227905014
How do you even dare to call something like this metal??


You'd probably want to delete Echoes Of Silence as well, and I'm surprised Cruor Deum was allowed when they were using all-synth instruments (which was for quite a while). There's a number of other bands that don't use real guitars either which are cast into question as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:20 pm 
 

Noktorn wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Noktorn wrote:
Why was Satanic Scums rejected? I have their 2008 full-length and it is symphonic black metal with synthesized instruments ala Echoes Of Silence. The music is pretty clearly symphonic black metal despite the choice of synth instruments. I can upload the album if desired.

No band with synth instruments is metal. Metal is guitar based music. Stuff like this will not get listed, whatever you may do. The music is pretty clearly as heavy as Erasure, no matter what they try to emulate.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =227905014
How do you even dare to call something like this metal??


You'd probably want to delete Echoes Of Silence as well, and I'm surprised Cruor Deum was allowed when they were using all-synth instruments (which was for quite a while). There's a number of other bands that don't use real guitars either which are cast into question as well.

Noktorn, stop tying. Nothing what you say changes the fact, that the band is as heavy or metal as Britney Spears.
Echoes of Silence use real instruments, at least on some releases - on the first demo and on the latest release - it is on their myspace.
Aren't you ashamed for trying to submit this keyboard wankery, at least a bit??

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:55 pm 
 

Has Maruta been discussed?

The albumis on download here:
http://screwdeathcore.blogspot.com/2008 ... -2008.html

Isnt this tipical Nasum sound?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:26 pm 
 

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Has Maruta been discussed?

The albumis on download here:
http://screwdeathcore.blogspot.com/2008 ... -2008.html

Isnt this tipical Nasum sound?

Yes, and always dismissed. Hc based grindcore. Please. give it a rest, this is not the first grindcore band you try to push in here.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:02 pm 
 

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Has Maruta been discussed?

The albumis on download here:
http://screwdeathcore.blogspot.com/2008 ... -2008.html

Isnt this tipical Nasum sound?

Yes, and always dismissed. Hc based grindcore. Please. give it a rest, this is not the first grindcore band you try to push in here.


fine. i do not push anythig . i just have my own opinions.
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bloodeyss88
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:00 am 
 

this is concerning all projecyts of FJY, Ravenr,null, and Soulreaper
Forstwarg,Mountains,Wotans Vrede, UnendlicheBlüt muninn, etc.




these projects all exist and they all were deleated for reosons so pathetic

heathen circle
http://heathenfrontline.proboards57.com ... =86&page=1



offcial elite hammer site
http://forstwargkult88.webs.com/index.htm

a place to buy the music

http://forstwargkult88.webs.com/apps/webstore/

people work hard on their music.the ones in this site have thing against NSBM.

I read in a bulleten on here some warg of wotan is behind these projects who the fuck is that.you read a myspace comment.some of the older material was photoshopped due to self releasing .or the band did not have the funding to professinaly release all material.but i can clearly download most songs.and order from varois zines.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 8:33 am 
 

Encyclopaedia Metallum to me

Sorry evildude, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Clairvoyants (Italy), for the following reason:

Either there is a lack of information, or this band has no apparent discography. Please see rule #7. If this band has indeed released anything and you can show us proof, you can resubmit it again.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:18 am 
 

evildude wrote:
Encyclopaedia Metallum to me

Sorry evildude, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Clairvoyants (Italy), for the following reason:

Either there is a lack of information, or this band has no apparent discography. Please see rule #7. If this band has indeed released anything and you can show us proof, you can resubmit it again.
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The discography page says "OUT 12th JANUARY 2009", and, therefore the band doesn't have a release yet. Resubmit it when the physical release is out.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:46 am 
 

Yeah, like there has never been an album submitted before it was released officially.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:52 am 
 

A thrash / melodic death metal band 'Ego Fall' from China was rejected days ago, due to the reason of no apparent release and a possibility of being a nu-metal band. Ok, here is the first album 'Spirit of Mongolia' under Mort Productions, out on Nov. 23, 2008, catalog: MORT29.
http://www.mort-prod.com/release/release.htm
I have bought this album via an online store, read here:
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/item ... html?pm1=2

Google '颠覆M - 蒙古精神' (band name and album title in Chinese) and you will get tons of results.

As to the music style, here are some video I found: (the sound quality is terrible...)
Iron Horseshoe: http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f2149760o1p6.html
Rebirth: http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f2149760o1p8.html
Founded in Lust: http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f2149760o1p9.html

If you are interested, the whole album is available here:
http://ifolder.ru/9362708

Can I resubmit it?

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Zorg85
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 11:34 am 
 

evildude wrote:
Yeah, like there has never been an album submitted before it was released officially.


Normally no, read rule 7

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LordFoufoune
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:27 am 
 

Hello,

My band Apoptosis has been rejected again, because submitted three times, in fact I submitted it only once, but I add information, first album, lyrics and etc ..., and then additionnal links, and it seems EM have some kind of bug, since the three submission were like this, 1st : band's general information, 2 submission : the same but album added : 3 same as 2 but official link.

Can't you fix the problem and accept the hird submission then ?

That's boring ...

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Zorg85
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:33 am 
 

LordFoufoune wrote:
Hello,

My band Apoptosis has been rejected again, because submitted three times, in fact I submitted it only once, but I add information, first album, lyrics and etc ..., and then additionnal links, and it seems EM have some kind of bug, since the three submission were like this, 1st : band's general information, 2 submission : the same but album added : 3 same as 2 but official link.

Can't you fix the problem and accept the hird submission then ?

That's boring ...


You'll have to resubmit it again as it has disappeared from the queue.

Be sure to add all info needed (links, discography...)

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