Yes but that's the problem if I add an album then a new sublmission is on so it will be rejected again ...

When you add your band you click submit then directly "add a single-CD release" and you add your album

If it fails, use "http://www.metal-archives.com/queue.php", click on your band name then "Report additional info on this band" to explain that you have released an album (read rule 7 about it)

Then I just added it again, with no additionnal information so Iwill wait the bad to be accepted and ten add album etc ..

If I were you i'd report that yo have the album officialy out or they might reject the band if they don't see any proofs...

I reported the myspace link of my band : http://www.myspace.com/apoptosisblackmetal
There are 2 songs and the info on how to order our album available sice 15/12, do you think this info will be enough ?

Normally yes, there are 2 pics of the CD

Thanks for your help we'llsee now if it works.

What about Apocalyptica? No guitars are used and they're here. I thought I read a post by a mod about how it doesn't matter what instruments a band uses to create metal so long as the music is metal.

Not to be seen to stir shit or anything, but a lot of bands use programmed drums and Virgin Steele have been known to programme their bass lines (yes, I do appreciate most of their albums have a full band line-up so it's not really the best example).

Now I happen to agree with Witcher that the band in question were definitely not metal, but if a more debatable band were to come up where would the line be drawn? Programmed drums ok but guitars not?

What about the very unlikely event of a band that uses real drums but programme their guitars?

All this is really just me thinking out loud by the way.

There was no such post. Morrigan posted here some time ago, that bands that use bass guitars insted of guitars may be acceptable in certain cases, but that entirtely electronic bands will usually be found not metal enough.

Metal is about guitars, they cannot be replaced.

Apocalyptica can be seen as a selected exception and even if not, they use electrified stringed instruments and not computers.

Instrumentation is one of the defining factors of metal, it is a style of rock music based around distorted guitar riffs.

Programmed drums do not matter. the guitars do.

Hello. I tried to add the band Balzabouth from Brazil, but a previously rejected band warning appears. I don't known why... but I found this page when the CD "Obscurum Lacus" is mentioned in a review. This must be considerated a prove of physical existence:

http://www.overmundo.com.br/overblog/gr ... o-cumprida

Can I re-submit it?

No, that proves nothing. it is a gig review, they say nothing about having a physical release.

Keyboards are an instrument.

Certain type of instrumentation. It should be obvious from the context, what I mean.

What about Russian power metal band Troy?
Their album is officially released on label and in stores now!
see troy-band.ru
musica.mustdie.ru news

What about it? If such info exists, you shoulds point to it in your submission, since the band has a Russian page only. It is there in the news, so you can resubmit.

regarding an Iirish Black Metal band called Nocternia who were rejected about 2 weeks ago. They will be resubmitted with proof of their discography.

So my two submissions, Sin (US) of New York City and Spine Wrench of the UK were rejected. I don't have my email activated on the site for notifications so whoever rejected them, can you explain what was the problem?

If it helps, here's a download to the both first split album together "No Rest For The Wicked". Both sound pretty metal enough to be on the archives: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3NHMJ2BP

The first track for Sin is an intro, so don't let that discourage you. The last three tracks of Sin are metal. All of Spine Wrench's stuff is very similar sounding to Deviated Instinct (former members of that group formed Spine Wrench) so I don't see the issue with Spine Wrench not being here is Deviated Instinct are. It's crusty sounding death metal with drum machines.

EDIT: while I can't show anymore Sin releases because that was the only release they had above, here is another Spine Wrench release I found (Spite Junkie single, two tracks): http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0AY4F0MS
Very Godflesh-eque with crust and sludge sound.

There were no songsamples, we will see.
But why don't you have your e-mail notification activated and submit bands?

Just don't want my email public to users on the MA any longer; been getting a lot of unwanted emails recently. But I will obviously understand that if a band wasn't accepted, I will come to these forums to see why.

The e-mail is not public, you only have to check the box in your profile.
You will get the post to the e-mail with which you have registered.

Say someone was to submit an obvious proof of existance for a band that would otherwise probably not be accepted. Would there be a chance if the submitter attached a well-written essay on why they should be included that they could convince otherwise?

No and there is no need for that.
If the band has releases in different style, they can mention which one is metal. But that is it.

Ah this is true, I forgot this. I haven't been on the MA in a while mind you so I forgot how things run around here Lemme know what's up with the Sin and Spine Wrench submissions once you hear the albums I provided.

Maybe you're right. I guess making such convincing arguments for inclusion is what the forums are for.

Well. But... look it:

"Balzabouth segue firme com o seu estilo Black Metal e mostrou maturidade em seu trabalho e um público fiel. Além de tocar músicas contidas em seu Cd Obscurum Lacus como Synfonia Funeral e Standarte de Satã, ainda tocaram músicas inéditas, mostrando que a aceitação da banda vem crescendo à medida que as pessoas passam a compreender melhor a proposta"

Translate: "They played songs taken from their CD Obscurum Lacus like Synfonia Funeral and Stantarde de Sata"...

I know it's only a reference, but is mentionated the CD.

Sorry, for the inconvenience, and thanks again.

tried to add Clairvoyants (Italy) but got the rejection that there is not enough information or no releases by the band

all information was taken from their myspace and official website
including the album information

information about the band: http://www.clairvoyants.it/band.htm
information about the cd: http://www.clairvoyants.it/disco.htm
their myspace: http://www.myspace.com/clairvoyants

i think it is enough information to have the band added, i seen bands with less info added

Holy shit, can't you people comprehend the rule 7, one of the simplest rules?
Read it again and think about what it says, I will not explain you anything, you should know better before you actually submit anything.

Small hint: NOT RELEASED YET!!!

Hey Witcher, any word on Sin (US) and Spine Wrench yet?

Why must metal be guitar based? Why not other instruments?

Isn't that kind of constricting creatively?

Because otherwise it would not be metal. It is one of the defining factors of the metal style. You may create interesting electronic music, but it still will not be metal. Creativity has nothing with definition of metal as a certain music genre. This thread's purpose is not to discuss it.

Metal played on balalaikas would not be metal, but folk music, even if the orchestra would play Holy Diver.

Why was the project Sleep On It (drone doom metal) rejected? The reason said "not metal- does not belong", so I was wondering what defines drone to those who review bands to accept here.

Yoiu should ask what defines doom metal. Drone as such has nothing to do with metal. Some more experimental metal bands may use droning structures, but that is something different. Your music has nothing that would resemble doom metal riffs or structures, it consists of industrialized droning. Doom metal should contain traits tracing back to Black Sabbath. This has nothing like that, it does not have anything resembling metal song, be it (the music) guitar induced or not.

Hello,

I'm wondering why my band gets rejected? We have released a demo and a EP but still get rejected. We have played since 2006 and right now
we are recording a new EP... can someone please mail me the answer
on j o n a t h a n _ m o r t e n s e n @ h o t m a i l . c o m (without spaces)

Thank you!
Stay Metal,
Jonathan

You have to prove, that the releases exist in physical form. Myspace page alone does not prove it. Links to distros, fanzine reviews that mention the physical demo or scan of the whole release nay serve as a proof.

Still waiting

"Sorry carnalsadistprod, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Bomb Storm (United States of America), for the following reason:

Either there is a lack of information, or this band has no apparent discography. Please see rule #7. If this band has indeed released anything and you can show us proof, you can resubmit it again.

If you would like to object to this rejection, please do so in the appropriate thread in the suggestions and complaints forum. Do not e-mail moderators directly about this.

Sincerely,
Encyclopaedia Metallum"

I'm still trying to wrap my fingers around how simple someone can be. I run the label that's releasing the ep. In the additional info...just for who approves/denies submissions...I wrote something along the lines of "The label has PHYSICAL copies of this release." I have not distributed them yet for financial reasons. So as far as I am concerned...the ep is OUT. Either I ended up with a trigger happy mod or the label actually possessing physical copies of a release is not good enough. Am I wrong here?

When you do not distribute them to people, they are not out yet. If the label has copies does not matter at all. What matters is the release to the general public. I for one do not understand, how can you ignore the clearly speaking rule 7. Besides that, the release was listed as for 2009. That shows, how you are not able to comprehend our written rules.