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brokenopen
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:52 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Fanfarigoule wrote:
According to their MySpace page, it's pretty obvious that they have released something. But I'd say it's not metal enough. Other opinions?

Yes, too much like Hatebreed.


I'd like to respectfully request that you listen to their page again. The first song starts out growl-ish but changes up in the middle. One of the others starts with piano (something Hatebreed doesn't use) and also uses clean singing.

If they're still not up to snuff, I'll accept that; I just think they deserve another shot. Thanks again for taking the time to hear me out.

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Glittery
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:57 am 
 

Why was this band rejected?

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rexxz
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:58 am 
 

What.
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Glittery
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:04 am 
 

rexxz wrote:
What.



Why was Nornir's Wisdom rejected?

Sorry, I should have included the band name in the post instead of just the subject.

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rexxz
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:10 am 
 

Oh, hah. I never even notice the subjust form. Didn't even see it.

Well, I didn't reject it myself, sorry. Have to wait for the person who handled that specific case. Did you read the submission rules and make sure that your submission followed them?
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Glittery
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:18 am 
 

rexxz wrote:
Oh, hah. I never even notice the subjust form. Didn't even see it.

Well, I didn't reject it myself, sorry. Have to wait for the person who handled that specific case. Did you read the submission rules and make sure that your submission followed them?


Oh alright.
Thanks anyway.
Yeah, I've done that before.

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rexxz
Where's your band?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:19 am 
 

Well the most common reason for rejection is that they do not adhere to rule #7, that is, there are no physical releases available. Other than that it's because they are deemed to be not metal. If you're absolutely certain this band is metal (not even borderline at all!) then it must be because of rule #7.
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TheFecundComing
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:18 am 
 

I don't understand why this isn't in the archives. The rules state "We accept the following non-metal bands in certain cases (these exceptions can be ambiguous and debatable - scroll down for details):

* Side-projects of metal band members (ex: Pain, Wongraven, Die Verbannten Kinder Eva's)," yet somehow Diagnose: Lebensgefahr doesn't make it in.

Why is this?

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EntilZha
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:29 am 
 

Read the rest of the rules, not just the parts you like.
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sme150
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:59 am 
 

brokenopen wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Fanfarigoule wrote:
According to their MySpace page, it's pretty obvious that they have released something. But I'd say it's not metal enough. Other opinions?

Yes, too much like Hatebreed.


I'd like to respectfully request that you listen to their page again. The first song starts out growl-ish but changes up in the middle. One of the others starts with piano (something Hatebreed doesn't use) and also uses clean singing.

If they're still not up to snuff, I'll accept that; I just think they deserve another shot. Thanks again for taking the time to hear me out.

Best wishes


I agree. There is much more variety in this band that makes them all the more entertaining to me, and I find the keys to be a nice fit into a good heavy and melodic sound.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:44 am 
 

TheFecundComing wrote:
I don't understand why this isn't in the archives. The rules state "We accept the following non-metal bands in certain cases (these exceptions can be ambiguous and debatable - scroll down for details):

* Side-projects of metal band members (ex: Pain, Wongraven, Die Verbannten Kinder Eva's)," yet somehow Diagnose: Lebensgefahr doesn't make it in.

Why is this?

It is not a side project.

Former after the musician left Silencer. As you have been told, read the complete rules.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:46 am 
 

sme150 wrote:
brokenopen wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Fanfarigoule wrote:
According to their MySpace page, it's pretty obvious that they have released something. But I'd say it's not metal enough. Other opinions?

Yes, too much like Hatebreed.


I'd like to respectfully request that you listen to their page again. The first song starts out growl-ish but changes up in the middle. One of the others starts with piano (something Hatebreed doesn't use) and also uses clean singing.

If they're still not up to snuff, I'll accept that; I just think they deserve another shot. Thanks again for taking the time to hear me out.

Best wishes


I agree. There is much more variety in this band that makes them all the more entertaining to me, and I find the keys to be a nice fit into a good heavy and melodic sound.

That has absoilutely nothing to do with the band's metalness. If you do not understand the purpose of the thread, at least do not make irrelevant comments, please.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:47 am 
 

brokenopen wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Fanfarigoule wrote:
According to their MySpace page, it's pretty obvious that they have released something. But I'd say it's not metal enough. Other opinions?

Yes, too much like Hatebreed.


I'd like to respectfully request that you listen to their page again. The first song starts out growl-ish but changes up in the middle. One of the others starts with piano (something Hatebreed doesn't use) and also uses clean singing.

If they're still not up to snuff, I'll accept that; I just think they deserve another shot. Thanks again for taking the time to hear me out.

Best wishes

It will not change, even after 100 further listens.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:50 am 
 

JaneBathory wrote:
rexxz wrote:
What.



Why was Nornir's Wisdom rejected?

Sorry, I should have included the band name in the post instead of just the subject.

Not metal.

There are no agressive metal riffs in the music:
http://www.myspace.com/nornirswisdom

It is no more heavy than Impaled Moonforest is.

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FlorianMoser
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:00 pm 
 

I've added the band Discipline M (other spelling: Discipline Misanthropy) and their first release (album: Zerogod). When I try to search the band now, I don't find the band.

(Why) was the band rejected?

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:02 pm 
 

Don't know whether it was rejected but you can resubmit the band. It meets both main requirements.

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FlorianMoser
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:05 pm 
 

Okay, I'll do (later).

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BluntForce
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:29 am 
 

I submitted a band called "into the moat" and apparently they have been rejected before, i haven't the slightest clue why, they are a technical/progressive death metal band with multiple releases and proof all over the place.

why are they on the rejected list?

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EntilZha
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:03 am 
 

Been discussed a billion times before. Lame mathcore isn't metal.
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BluntForce
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:45 am 
 

thats techdeath straight fuckin up. it might have mathcore structure but thats definetly metal. i dont know where you got straight mathcore from, but thats incorrect.

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:53 am 
 

Nile, Origin, Psycroptic. That's technical death metal "straight fucking up". As said, they won't make it with their current sound.

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:59 am 
 

BluntForce wrote:
thats techdeath straight fuckin up. it might have mathcore structure but thats definitely metal. i dont know where you got straight mathcore from, but thats incorrect.


You hate metal, don't you?

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Meloman
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:49 am 
 

apparently Honeytrap dont exist enough or have a proper physical release
well i have their first Album which i would gladly write all the track titles, times and who and when it was released, the date etc and get photos of both the front and back cover if neccessary, even put the songs on soulseek for download

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:54 am 
 

Meloman wrote:
apparently Honeytrap dont exist enough or have a proper physical release
well i have their first Album which i would gladly write all the track titles, times and who and when it was released, the date etc and get photos of both the front and back cover if neccessary, even put the songs on soulseek for download

Not on soulseek, on rapidshare or megaupload.

You are suppossed to read the rules, before you make a submission, so do it now, especially rule 7.
By the way, if you mean this band, then they are not metal in the slightest:
http://www.myspace.com/honeytraponmyspace

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Meloman
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:59 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Meloman wrote:
apparently Honeytrap dont exist enough or have a proper physical release
well i have their first Album which i would gladly write all the track titles, times and who and when it was released, the date etc and get photos of both the front and back cover if neccessary, even put the songs on soulseek for download

Not on soulseek, on rapidshare or megaupload.

You are suppossed to read the rules, before you make a submission, so do it now, especially rule 7.
By the way, if you mean this band, then they are not metal in the slightest:
http://www.myspace.com/honeytraponmyspace

nonono www.myspace.com/honeytrap69

btw they have two vids of them playing live

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:09 am 
 

Meloman wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Meloman wrote:
apparently Honeytrap dont exist enough or have a proper physical release
well i have their first Album which i would gladly write all the track titles, times and who and when it was released, the date etc and get photos of both the front and back cover if neccessary, even put the songs on soulseek for download

Not on soulseek, on rapidshare or megaupload.

You are suppossed to read the rules, before you make a submission, so do it now, especially rule 7.
By the way, if you mean this band, then they are not metal in the slightest:
http://www.myspace.com/honeytraponmyspace

nonono www.myspace.com/honeytrap69

btw they have two vids of them playing live



That is not metal, either, some kind of grunge.

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Meloman
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:10 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Meloman wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Meloman wrote:
apparently Honeytrap dont exist enough or have a proper physical release
well i have their first Album which i would gladly write all the track titles, times and who and when it was released, the date etc and get photos of both the front and back cover if neccessary, even put the songs on soulseek for download

Not on soulseek, on rapidshare or megaupload.

You are suppossed to read the rules, before you make a submission, so do it now, especially rule 7.
By the way, if you mean this band, then they are not metal in the slightest:
http://www.myspace.com/honeytraponmyspace

nonono www.myspace.com/honeytrap69

btw they have two vids of them playing live



That is not metal, either, some kind of grunge.

they refer to themself as stoner rock / metal but ok

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todesengel_hell
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:58 am 
 

I attempted to submit a metalcore band named Acirema from North Carolina to the archives. They were rejected due to already being listed in the encyclopaedia. When I did a quick search, the only Acirema already listed that I found was a Folk Metal/Ambient project from Arizona. Here are some links:

Acirema (metalcore) Myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/acirema
NOTE: proof of a physical release is on this page in the text box with their bio

Acirema (folk metal) MA Listing:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=20527

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Rog
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:31 am 
 

I've posted the band Mexican Mud, but it was rejected 'cause considered "Not Metal"...
I think that there's any substantial style difference with other Stoner Metal/Rock bands like Kyuss, Orange Goblin, Bongzilla, Camarosmith and so on.
You can hear them on http://www.myspace.com/mexicanmud.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:39 am 
 

Rog wrote:
I've posted the band Mexican Mud, but it was rejected 'cause considered "Not Metal"...
I think that there's any substantial style difference with other Stoner Metal/Rock bands like Kyuss, Orange Goblin, Bongzilla, Camarosmith and so on.
You can hear them on http://www.myspace.com/mexicanmud.

Not metal, stone rock. No comparison will make them more metal.

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Rog
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:42 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Rog wrote:
I've posted the band Mexican Mud, but it was rejected 'cause considered "Not Metal"...
I think that there's any substantial style difference with other Stoner Metal/Rock bands like Kyuss, Orange Goblin, Bongzilla, Camarosmith and so on.
You can hear them on http://www.myspace.com/mexicanmud.

Not metal, stone rock. No comparison will make them more metal.


Ok, but I still can not understand why Kyuss are considered more metal...

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AlSeDob
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:31 pm 
 

I've posted today the band Affect (Russia) and it was rejected apparently because of a lack of information or released music. Now, i suppose i submitted enough information for the project that only exists for 1 year and as a proof of released music you can check the following links for more than 50 minutes of recorded music (demo):
http://www.myspace.com/affectrus
http://www.realmusic.ru/affected/
Anyway, thanks for considering my request.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:37 pm 
 

Judging from the site:

-> rule #7
Must have a physical release. No MP3 bands are allowed here.
http://www.metal-archives.com/guidelines.php
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AlSeDob
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:58 pm 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
Judging from the site:

-> rule #7
Must have a physical release. No MP3 bands are allowed here.
http://www.metal-archives.com/guidelines.php


Hum...very strange...how can you judge whether this particular band has a physical release or not? Do you recieve every particular physical release in your mail-box? Or do you search for the information about the album in Billboard-100?:))) I mean, i have physically the demo of Affect and as far as i know the only member of this project releases it on occasion and presents it as a hand-made gift for everyone who is interested. It's underground, dude!:)))

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:59 pm 
 

AlSeDob wrote:
oneyoudontknow wrote:
Judging from the site:

-> rule #7
Must have a physical release. No MP3 bands are allowed here.
http://www.metal-archives.com/guidelines.php


Hum...very strange...how can you judge whether this particular band has a physical release or not? Do you recieve every particular physical release in your mail-box? Or do you search for the information about the album in Billboard-100?:))) I mean, i have physically the demo of Affect and as far as i know the only member of this project releases it on occasion and presents it as a hand-made gift for everyone who is interested. It's underground, dude!:)))

Take a picture, or scan a copy of the physical product. Or you can direct the powers that be to a place where it's possible to purchase a copy of the release.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:52 pm 
 

I was thinking to submit band Brobdingnagian but it was saying that band already was rejected cause it isnt metal.
I was curios why Brobdingnagian isnt added when on MA exist a lot of bands with similiar music like for example
Enbilulugugal.

Also on their myspace page are possible to listen songs and there is possible to hear a lot of black metal stuff..
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... D=44450948

Thanx.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:55 pm 
 

avrlabel wrote:
I was thinking to submit band Brobdingnagian but it was saying that band already was rejected cause it isnt metal.
I was curios why Brobdingnagian isnt added when on MA exist a lot of bands with similiar music like for example
Enbilulugugal.

Also on their myspace page are possible to listen songs and there is possible to hear a lot of black metal stuff..
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... D=44450948

Thanx.

They have only one short black metal song and one partially metal. The rest is industrial/noise.

Also, there is not a lot of similiar sounding bands, stop making things up. The band you have mentioned has at least some black metal based releases among the noise ones.

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avrlabel
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:03 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
avrlabel wrote:
I was thinking to submit band Brobdingnagian but it was saying that band already was rejected cause it isnt metal.
I was curios why Brobdingnagian isnt added when on MA exist a lot of bands with similiar music like for example
Enbilulugugal.

Also on their myspace page are possible to listen songs and there is possible to hear a lot of black metal stuff..
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... D=44450948

Thanx.

They have only one short black metal song and one partially metal. The rest is industrial/noise.

Also, there is not a lot of similiar sounding bands, stop making things up. The band you have mentioned has at least some black metal based releases among the noise ones.


Ok.

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larshus
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:17 pm 
 

You rejected My Life's Despair for not being able to find a release. Here's the UPC, 845350010947. It won't be on Itunes and the such for a few weeks as they lag, but if you want a free copy all you have to do is ask. hehe

http://www.mininova.org/tor/2164520

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ogmetal
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:16 pm 
 

Resubmit.
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