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Jalapeno_on_a_Stick
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:16 pm 
 

I do listen to a lot of old school bands, but if Skindred is rejected but Lipstick Liontigers is allowed I am seriously sonfused.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:18 pm 
 

Jalapeno_on_a_Stick wrote:
I do listen to a lot of old school bands, but if Skindred is rejected but Lipstick Liontigers is allowed I am seriously sonfused.

That says about everything. When you figure out why, come asking about something again. Please, not sooner...
Lipstick Liontigers play traditional metal, the only commercial elements are the keyboards, which do not get into the music.

Skinderd is modern downtuned jumpodafuckup, not power/prog, not thrash, not doom, not death, not n.w.ob.h.m. inspired metal.

Those atre the real metal genres, the only pure metal genres.

In case of metalcore and similar it always depends, how much they have from those valid genres in their sound.
Skindred have zero, expect for a possible groove influence, perveted and twisted for baggy pants generation in tru Korn/Slipknot style.


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Jalapeno_on_a_Stick
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:20 pm 
 

Ok, might as well just allow Def Leppard into the archives then.
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In_hora_mortis
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:24 pm 
 

Hello. Zepharnecron from Mexico was rejected. The band plays black metal and released two demos and one ep. Look it:


http://hellsouthlegions.blogspot.com/20 ... gions.html

And the other one is also in the same page.

REX INFERNUS MINDAR (guitar, bass) from the band, contact me. He said me it through msn:

(11:35) in_hora_mortis: Cuántas copias editan x demo generalmente?
(11:35) in_hora_mortis: en cd-r?
(11:35) Rex Infernus Min: 150

Translate:
Both demo was edited in cd-r format and limited copies to 150.

Thanks for your attention.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:25 pm 
 

Jalapeno_on_a_Stick wrote:
Ok, might as well just allow Def Leppard into the archives then.

They are here already for years. :lol: Do you have a comedy evening tonight, or are you such a noob what real metal concerns?

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:25 pm 
 

In_hora_mortis wrote:
Hello. Zepharnecron from Mexico was rejected. The band plays black metal and released two demos and one ep. Look it:


http://hellsouthlegions.blogspot.com/20 ... gions.html

And the other one is also in the same page.

REX INFERNUS MINDAR (guitar, bass) from the band, contact me. He said me it through msn:

(11:35) in_hora_mortis: Cuántas copias editan x demo generalmente?
(11:35) in_hora_mortis: en cd-r?
(11:35) Rex Infernus Min: 150

Translate:
Both demo was edited in cd-r format and limited copies to 150.

Thanks for your attention.

Prove it, his or your word is not enough.

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Jalapeno_on_a_Stick
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:25 pm 
 

You're serious. Def Freaking Leppard is on here. Wow.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:29 pm 
 

Jalapeno_on_a_Stick wrote:
You're serious. Def Freaking Leppard is on here. Wow.


Yes, they have realeased n.w.o.b.h.m. albums, when 15 years old kiddies like you were not even conceived.

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Jalapeno_on_a_Stick
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:35 pm 
 

Ha. Yankee. Wow. Anyways I always believed that NWOBHM was Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, REAL metal. And I don't see what this site has against Slipknot and Korn. Nu-metal is a very wide genre, everything from Linkin Park's whining to Otep's black metal-esque music.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:49 pm 
 

Jalapeno_on_a_Stick wrote:
Ha. Yankee. Wow. Anyways I always believed that NWOBHM was Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, REAL metal. And I don't see what this site has against Slipknot and Korn. Nu-metal is a very wide genre, everything from Linkin Park's whining to Otep's black metal-esque music.

Def Leppard's first two albums were real metal. You have obviously heard not much NWOBHM.
Otep - black metal - that is a joke of the year.

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Jalapeno_on_a_Stick
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:57 pm 
 

I never said they were black metal, I said some of their songs have black metal qualities.
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Jalapeno_on_a_Stick
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:10 pm 
 

Ok so enough of that, all hostility aside, why was Soulfly not accepted?
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:19 pm 
 

Jalapeno_on_a_Stick wrote:
Ok so enough of that, all hostility aside, why was Soulfly not accepted?

Because their albums were deeemed to not be metal enough bz the site owners.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:19 pm 
 

Jalapeno_on_a_Stick wrote:
I never said they were black metal, I said some of their songs have black metal qualities.

None of their songs is even remotely similar to black metal.

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Bash
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:20 pm 
 

You seem to have a very flimsy understanding of what metal is. Perhaps you should explore the subject further before making the mods of this site explain to you the case against every non-metal band in the world.

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Jalapeno_on_a_Stick
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:24 pm 
 

http://search.playlist.com/tracks/Terrorist%20Soulfly

This is their song Terrorist. Is it metal enough?
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dust666
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:33 pm 
 

Btw... did Morrigan say her opinion about the new Soulfly album? It sounds acceptable groove metal to me. Should i PM her a link so she could listen to it?

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Jalapeno_on_a_Stick
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:35 pm 
 

Yeah you should, I always thought of them as thrash, but if Def Leppard is considered metal I guess I have no clue what metal is anymore.
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dust666
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:40 pm 
 

Jalapeno_on_a_Stick wrote:
Yeah you should, I always thought of them as thrash, but if Def Leppard is considered metal I guess I have no clue what metal is anymore.

Soulfly is in no way thrash..... not even close... the new album sounded to me like borderline groove/metalcore...

But anyways...i was asking for an opinion by a mod.

Here's a link to the album..if anyone would like to listen to is...
http://rapidshare.com/files/130174121/S ... oopsta.zip

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Jalapeno_on_a_Stick
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:43 pm 
 

Not the new album, some of their midway albums have a thrash influence (maybe even death metal on a couple)
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mrchris
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:59 pm 
 

Soulfly? With death influences? I don't think so.
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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:01 pm 
 

Jalapeno_on_a_Stick wrote:
Not the new album, some of their midway albums have a thrash influence (maybe even death metal on a couple)


You must be a fucking troll, no one could ever seriously believe that Soulfly sounded anything like death metal. If you are not a troll, you have the WORST grasp of what metal is.

Go listen to some real metal for a while, and come back later (or don't bother, you seem like a real waste of time and energy).

Leave the hall.

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Jalapeno_on_a_Stick
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:01 pm 
 

Ok...um...here I'm gonna go look and see if i can find the song but I could have sworn...
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Jalapeno_on_a_Stick
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:02 pm 
 

Forget this.
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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:02 pm 
 

Jalapeno_on_a_Stick wrote:
Ok...um...here I'm gonna go look and see if i can find the song but I could have sworn...


Don't even bother. It's sound will be so distant from death metal that we will all palm our faces and laugh at you in disgust.

Edit: Finally, he decided to drop it!

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splatter
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:33 pm 
 

hi there, regarding the subject "why was x band rejected" :

Tonight I have added a band that I play in called Awaiting Fear. Ofcourse it was rejected by mods due to lack of proof of EP's physical existence. Thing is, just a few days ago, the limited EP edition released by domestic label finaly went public so I guess this link to the label releases will now work for you to accept this band as a legit metal-archives.com band now ?

http://records.darkrevolution.org/sp-la ... tml#DRR008

unfortunately some of the info there might be unreadable to you due to the fact that page is not in english, but hopefuly it's enough... ? Maybe we should take a photo of the CDs ? :]

Thanks |m/

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WonderPat
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:41 pm 
 

Jalapeno_on_a_Stick wrote:
Nu-metal is a very wide genre, everything from Linkin Park's whining to Otep's black metal-esque music.


OTEP's black metal influenced music?

Pardon me while I laugh so hard I rupture a vein that cuts through my skin and die in a pool of my own blood. OTEP are about as black metal influenced as Creed. When OTEP does a split with Zarach 'Baal' Tharagh, however...


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WonderPat
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:44 pm 
 

Jalapeno_on_a_Stick wrote:
if Def Leppard is considered metal I guess I have no clue what metal is anymore.


Ding, ding, ding! ...save for the word "anymore." :p But no offense man, you just gotta understand what metal is. Its not always the heaviest, fastest, meanest music around. Rompeprop isn't accepted here, because they're grindcore (not metal). The 69 Eyes aren't accepted here, because they are slick, sleazy gothic hard rock (not metal; though their old stuff really comes close, I think). And Skindred isn't accepted here because they are nu-metal (not metal). Def Leppard is here because their earliest releases are clearly NWOBHM.

I'm no expert. I've flubbed, attempting to submit non-metal bands, just because they are 'heavy' or have distorted guitars. But once you're around here for a little while, its pretty easy to understand what IS metal and what IS NOT, and why. Sure, there will always be borderline bands that people disagree on (for example, I think Batoche deserves a place in the archives; they are Thrash/Metalcore), but generally, its easy to learn what's metal and what isn't.

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mrchris
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:25 pm 
 

splatter: That would certainly prove it's existance.
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SupremeAbstract
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:27 am 
 

I can't belive you guys fed that troll for so long...
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dust666
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:01 am 
 

dust666 wrote:
Jalapeno_on_a_Stick wrote:
Yeah you should, I always thought of them as thrash, but if Def Leppard is considered metal I guess I have no clue what metal is anymore.

Soulfly is in no way thrash..... not even close... the new album sounded to me like borderline groove/metalcore...

But anyways...i was asking for an opinion by a mod.

Here's a link to the album..if anyone would like to listen to is...
http://rapidshare.com/files/130174121/S ... oopsta.zip


So any opinions on the new Soulfly?

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Goatfangs
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:28 am 
 

I'm back with more proof of the existence of Ebenezer.

I said that I could take a picture of their CD at their merch booth, just to show that I didn't just write on a blank CD-r with a green marker.

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll61 ... rmerch.jpg

That picture (taken with a cellphone) is at the Gloominous Doom's merch booth, with Ebenezer demos in the yellow sleeves. There are white sleeved CDs next to it with the Viking Lord demo, and those strange things above the CDs are indeed 8-tracks that cost 75 dollars (no one has ever bought one, and they are more for humorous display).

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll61 ... ezercd.jpg

That's a scan of the Ebenezer CD for comparison. The one I got also came in a yellow slipcase.
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rexxz
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:07 pm 
 

Ok, you can re-submit them. Although, I should comment that your picture of those CDs is a very poor one :D I can hardly tell that's a merch booth haha. Anyway, add them and it will be accepted.
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Jalapeno_on_a_Stick
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:08 pm 
 

Ok sorry about that i guess i should probably shut up until i figure out what I'm talking about....
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Goatfangs
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:56 pm 
 

rexxz wrote:
Ok, you can re-submit them. Although, I should comment that your picture of those CDs is a very poor one :D I can hardly tell that's a merch booth haha. Anyway, add them and it will be accepted.


Cell phone camera sux, but it's the best I can do. I did the same thing for another band I added, but didn't upload it since that was in case they were rejected... but they were accepted.

I added them.
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SpeedF
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:04 pm 
 

Although a totally unacceptable mallcore/ alternative rock band, Passenger was a side-project of of members from metal bands In Flames and Gardenian. It may not be as important as most side-projects, but it has worldwide distribution. Mod's thoughts?

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Goatfangs
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:46 pm 
 

I submitted a band called Dead Mans Hand and they were rejected...

The strange thing about this band is they have two releases out, apparently amateur recordings on a CD-R... both of them have the same cover art but are each one track and a different song.

Shall I resubmit with a scan of each of these CDs and their cover art?

Edit: http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll61 ... dstuff.jpg

That's the best I can do. If this isn't enough I'll wait for their new CD to come out.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:10 pm 
 

Goatfangs wrote:
I submitted a band called Dead Mans Hand and they were rejected...

The strange thing about this band is they have two releases out, apparently amateur recordings on a CD-R... both of them have the same cover art but are each one track and a different song.

Shall I resubmit with a scan of each of these CDs and their cover art?

Edit: http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll61 ... dstuff.jpg

That's the best I can do. If this isn't enough I'll wait for their new CD to come out.

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Why today bands cannot make old fashioned informational page is beyond me. Sure, myspace offers place for soundfiles, but the desing, adds and blogs often lead to confusion instead of being informative.

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PatientZero
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:04 am 
 

So, I submitted Doombringer (a Polish death metal band, not to be confused with a core band from US that I found through last.fm)

It was rejected on the basis that I didn't provide evidence of their existence, fair enough I suppose. Anyway, hopefully this is proof enough:

http://www.nwnprod.com/catalog/product_ ... ts_id=4193

(their demo on NWN!)

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Stark
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:38 am 
 

I'm puzzled...
If bands like Sir Lord Baltimore, Lotus, Messendger etc etc. are submitted and ok:d, why was Mountain of Power rejected? The music is pure 70s influenced heavy rock, even heavier than some of the aforementioned. It features people from (submitted) bands like Andromeda, Cloudscape, Overdrive, Dan Swanö, Hammerfall etc etc.

The album includes covers of (submitted) bands like Budgie, Samson etc.

Check: www.myspace.com/mountainofpower

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