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Eagleheart
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:18 pm 
 

Fanfarigoule wrote:
I hope you didn't understand I meant they are metal, I don't want to give you false hopes. I didn't listen to the samples. The place for asking whether a band is metal is the submission form. The answer is whether or not they are accepted.

Oh, I see. Then I tried it, I submitted them.

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Svordov
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:42 pm 
 

Hello,

I submitted yesterday (february 8) Hammerthrash to the archives, but I received some minutes ago a mail from Encyclopaedia Metallum telling about its rejection.
I read the submission rules before, and Hammerthrash since january of 2010 made its first physical release, that's is an EP called "Hammerthrash" which information (tracklist, cover...times...) i sent yesterday to the archives too.

I sent their myspace link... (http://www.myspace.com/hammerthrash)
I sent too the EP front cover, a band picture, logo, line-up information and some notes.
If the Encyclopaedia needs to have a scan of the official cover and back cover, I can get it from a friend of mine, who have direct contact with the band.

Here's is a link of a video about a show where they released their debut EP, sorry for the description in portuguese.
http://video.aol.co.uk/video-detail/ham ... /850944147

I would like to remember that this is my first band submission for the archives, and I am making it for my friend to get experienced about submission procedures, in order to submit as soon as I can my own one-man-band (Svörd Ordovices) which I only hadn't submitted yet because I still don't have a physical release, only some demos at my pc and myspace and last.fm...

So, which information are missing from my submission?

Sorry for my broken english... and for some lacks of information..
I'm proud to contribute with a serious metal encyclopaedia, which strongly observes its rules.

Lord Svörd Ordovices

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:54 pm 
 

We appreciate your efforts but there was no real proof of physical release. Resubmit with these links in the notes as proof:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=18396552
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=18396548

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Svordov
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:10 pm 
 

Fanfarigoule wrote:
We appreciate your efforts but there was no real proof of physical release. Resubmit with these links in the notes as proof:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=18396552
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=18396548


Thanks!!
But that links above (some photos of Hammerthrash's EP) will appear in the band's page at the archives?

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:15 pm 
 

No, it's just for the mods. They will delete them once the band is accepted.

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Uwe
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:36 pm 
 

I tried to upload CYANIDE (US, not to be confused with the other American Cyanide) on metal-archives. I added the logo, a weblink (www.myspace.com/cyanideband ) and the cover art+plus songtitles and bandpicture.
Although the band was rejected for the wellknown reasons.
Sometimes I think, that no one of the administrators listens closely to the bands we're trying to upload.
CYANIDE played a great mixture of heavy metal and thrash metal.
So the band would fit perfectly to metal-archives.

I don't understand this. :(

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Svordov
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:36 pm 
 

Ordovices wrote:
Fanfarigoule wrote:
We appreciate your efforts but there was no real proof of physical release. Resubmit with these links in the notes as proof:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=18396552
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=18396548


Ok, I re-submitted the band by now... with these links
After its acception could I edit their page in order to add their myspace link (sorry, i forgot to do this at the submission)

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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:45 pm 
 

Done.
You forget about link to myspace, samples.
Now you should add lyrics to.

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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:48 pm 
 

Uwe wrote:
I tried to upload CYANIDE (US, not to be confused with the other American Cyanide) on metal-archives. I added the logo, a weblink (www.myspace.com/cyanideband ) and the cover art+plus songtitles and bandpicture.
Although the band was rejected for the wellknown reasons.
Sometimes I think, that no one of the administrators listens closely to the bands we're trying to upload.
CYANIDE played a great mixture of heavy metal and thrash metal.
So the band would fit perfectly to metal-archives.

I don't understand this. :(


You don't tell us nothing about physical releases of this band.
So if you find proof that they released this on CD/tape you can add them again.
And don't ask how you need to do this.
This thread is full of answers of your questions.

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Svordov
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:58 pm 
 

Piotr_Bojka wrote:
Done.
You forget about link to myspace, samples.
Now you should add lyrics to.


Thanks!
I will ask my friend to give me the lyrics soon.

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Uwe
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:08 pm 
 

Piotr_Bojka wrote:
You don't tell us nothing about physical releases of this band.
So if you find proof that they released this on CD/tape you can add them again.
And don't ask how you need to do this.
This thread is full of answers of your questions.


CYANIDE - Sleaze queen (1989) (Tape release)
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>>>>>Sleaze Queen Album Credits:

Recoded at Denny Lynn Productions in Toledo, Ohio

Produced by Cyanide

Engeneered by Denny Lynn Phillips

THANX TO: God, Families and friends of the band (of coarse), Monique McCoy, Kelly and Kathy Marlow, Damien, The Delta Forum (Irelans), Amy Tilse, Rob Prior, Chuck Neptune, Dynamic Music, Taco Bells worldwide, Wauseon McDonalds, Dennis (Harris) and Matt (Damien) for helping on stage, Eric Butler, Louie (skeeter) and Bill Rodgers, Starr Sherer, Tom Lantz, Jim Paxton, Paul Yarnell and most of you for supporting us!

Bass Trax on "Screams", "Never Let Go" and "Haunted" performed by John Paxton

Cover Art by Rob Prior, for Art By Design/Toledo, OH<<<<<<


//Taken directly from the homepage www.myspace.com/cyanideband!!!!

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GVOLTT
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:25 pm 
 

Ok, I don't know why I haven't asked about these two bands before now.

I realize Big Dumb Face is (err...was) a Limp Bizkit side-project, and their sole album is predominantly not metal. However, 5 of the songs from the album were released as part of the Big Dumb Metal EP; all of the songs from the EP can be considered metal. But is the existence of this EP enough to get the band in?

And for band number two: Naked City. I realize that the band was predominantly avant-garde jazz with grind influences, however a single-track album entitled Leng Tch'e was released, and it is practically full-on sludge metal. Like the case above with Big Dumb Face, is a single-track album enough to get Naked City on here? I think this album was brought up at least once before here, but I don't recall anyone responding to it.
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VioladorPeodfilo
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:40 pm 
 

same with gut the y told me that the band was already rejected and
shit like that
what can i do publish my posts
i've read their conditions to post
i think that i've done a permitted work

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:55 pm 
 

Both of these mentioned bands (Gut and Last Days of Humanity) have very little to do with metal. Their musical style is primarily rooted in grind and it's subgenres. They are not metal enough.

rejected genres in the guidelines wrote:
Grindcore (and all its variants; noise, crust, etc) with little to zero metal influence

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DiscreetMachine
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:58 pm 
 

well, I tried submitting Pysiedius and got that ol' "Not metal; Does not belong" kick in the butt.

I'm wondering if I can talk to the moderator who rejected my submission.
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PungentStenchOfPutrefacti
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:08 am 
 

Hi,
you might wanna reconsider AIRLINES OF TERROR position as they just released a metal album.
listen here (first traks): http://www.myspace.com/airlinesofterror
the album is sold here:
http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.as ... ISINGCD051

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Whiskey_Bonbons
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:12 am 
 

The band Age of Taurus has been rejected for "no apparent discography". Their demo can be sold here:
http://shadowkingdomrecords.com/store.p ... search_by=

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Annihislater
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:34 am 
 

Windrider were rejected for "Either there is a lack of information, or this band has no apparent discography. Please see rule #7. If this band has indeed released anything and you can show us proof, you can resubmit it again."

Despite the fact i added the muspelheim EP, and The Album due out any time now.

I also posted a link for a legal free download of the muspelheim EP, The Myspace page, and the Last.fm page where the muspelheim ep can be downloaded for free.

So how did they get rejected for no discography?

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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:45 am 
 

It's mp3 band. They don't have released anything physically.
If I'm wrong give me proves.

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:23 am 
 

Whiskey_Bonbons wrote:
The band Age of Taurus has been rejected for "no apparent discography". Their demo can be sold here:
http://shadowkingdomrecords.com/store.p ... search_by=

Resubmit with link.

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Annihislater
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:30 pm 
 

Piotr_Bojka wrote:
It's mp3 band. They don't have released anything physically.
If I'm wrong give me proves.


I didn't realise that was a rule, I apologise.

But what difference does it make? Whether physical copies exist or not? it doesn't mean the band doesn't exist. Id say if anything, this was just a sign of the times.
And in all fairness, windrider's music if far more available to people than a band who did like 20 tapes back in 1992 or something.

Also Battleheart are on the archives, but they only ever did two download only EP's as far as I can recall, I don't remember them being physically available.
Sure Alestorm did, but battleheart didn't.

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uglur
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:39 pm 
 

Annihislater wrote:
But what difference does it make? Whether physical copies exist or not? it doesn't mean the band doesn't exist. Id say if anything, this was just a sign of the times.
And in all fairness, windrider's music if far more available to people than a band who did like 20 tapes back in 1992 or something.


Derigin wrote:
Digital-only bands are a highly controversial matter to deal with, primarily because we can't deny the existence of professional bands that rely solely on digital releases. However, at least for the time being, such bands remain an extreme minority compared to those bands that choose to release their works through traditional physical formats. It seems reasonable, for the time being, that the hallmark for acceptance remain based on the latter. If, sometime in the future, that changes, and releases on physical formats become a minority, then it can be assumed that the processes for submission would need to be changed. The likelihood of that happening is highly debatable, and personally unlikely, given the state of the music industry and the continual desire by people to own physical material objects - but the possibility is always there.

As for the reasoning for the rule, that is at the discretion of those who created the rules; the reasoning may be as straightforward and distinct as simply desiring to avoid non-existent or Myspace bands - as is given in the guidelines. It's no surprise that this issue is a highly arguable one, though; there are similarities and significant differences between digital and physical formats, and each argument has its merits - whether that argument is based on the formats' tangibility (material value), availability (distribution-wise), survivability (in terms of the format's longevity), or validity (whether or not the music could be altered - changed - to a state of being a bootleg). Ultimately, deriving a compromise between both is difficult in itself; they're two different beasts attempting to do the same thing (distribute music) through entirely different methods. For the time being, the rule as it stands omits these difficulties splendidly and practically, given the state of the current popularity of digital-only releases. That may change, time can only tell.

For now, unless that band releases something on a physical format, it can not be on MA.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:28 pm 
 

Re: digital releases, why not make that if the band's music is distributed on a large/international/not sure what you'd call it pay website (i.e Itunes, Amazon etc) that it's legit? That'd be a compromise that could work for some of that extreme minority, at the very least.

It's going to become a more and more common problem, really.. Some sort of arrangement is eventually going to have to be found.
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PungentStenchOfPutrefacti
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:04 pm 
 

Hi,
you might wanna reconsider AIRLINES OF TERROR position as they just released a metal album.
listen here (first traks): http://www.myspace.com/airlinesofterror
the album is sold here:
http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.as ... ISINGCD051

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:31 am 
 

caspian wrote:
Re: digital releases, why not make that if the band's music is distributed on a large/international/not sure what you'd call it pay website (i.e Itunes, Amazon etc) that it's legit? That'd be a compromise that could work for some of that extreme minority, at the very least.

It's going to become a more and more common problem, really.. Some sort of arrangement is eventually going to have to be found.

but where to draw the line?

Maybe a band sells their music via PayPal without using such a well-known portal. Would this be valid, then? From your perspective ...

(I do not think this thread should be cluttered with this type of discussion ... a separate one would be more appropriate.)
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Metal_Serra
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:45 pm 
 

Sorry Metal_Serra, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Destrudo (Italy), for the following reason:
Not metal; does not belong.

My band is Progressive and Experimental and METAL!!! So what's the problem??

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Rob1
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:23 pm 
 

Metal_Serra wrote:
Sorry Metal_Serra, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Destrudo (Italy), for the following reason:
Not metal; does not belong.

My band is Progressive and Experimental and METAL!!! So what's the problem??

Maybe too Progressive an Experimental to be Metal enough?

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Metal_Serra
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:32 pm 
 

Rob1 wrote:
Metal_Serra wrote:
Sorry Metal_Serra, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Destrudo (Italy), for the following reason:
Not metal; does not belong.

My band is Progressive and Experimental and METAL!!! So what's the problem??

Maybe too Progressive an Experimental to be Metal enough?


go to our space rob: destrudoexperiment

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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:39 pm 
 

http://www.myspace.com/destrudoexperiment

Maybe someone made a mistake and wanted to click on :
"Either there is a lack of information, or this band has no apparent discography. Please see rule #7. If this band
has indeed released anything and you can show us proof, you can resubmit it again."
On myspace I can't find any proves for CD.
Music is OK for me.
Experimental? I don't think so.

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:58 pm 
 

Sounds OK for me, too.

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Metal_Serra
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:00 pm 
 

Piotr_Bojka wrote:
http://www.myspace.com/destrudoexperiment

Maybe someone made a mistake and wanted to click on :
"Either there is a lack of information, or this band has no apparent discography. Please see rule #7. If this band
has indeed released anything and you can show us proof, you can resubmit it again."
On myspace I can't find any proves for CD.
Music is OK for me.
Experimental? I don't think so.


Read the bio... if you want, i send to you a copy XDXD

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:13 pm 
 

It says the release is "completed". I understand it as "recorded" and that does not necessarily mean released. If Homunclus indeed exists physically, just take a photo of it.

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PungentStenchOfPutrefacti
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:18 pm 
 

dudes, I'm feelin invisible...anyway, for the 3rd time in 3 days:


you might wanna reconsider AIRLINES OF TERROR (rejected once) position as they just released a metal album.
listen here (first traks): http://www.myspace.com/airlinesofterror
the album is sold here:
http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.as ... ISINGCD051

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Metal_Serra
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:28 pm 
 

Fanfarigoule wrote:
It says the release is "completed". I understand it as "recorded" and that does not necessarily mean released. If Homunclus indeed exists physically, just take a photo of it.


http://yfrog.com/5cp1010699ij

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spgoldfingerfan
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:33 pm 
 

Hey I had an e-mail saying the band I submitted was "Not Metal"

and I fail to see why

Link: myspace.com/violentinsight

You have their top influences here on the site
Glass Casket
The Black Dahlia Murder
Lamb of God
As I Lay Dying (Which BTW is Metalcore and according to your rules shouldn't be here)

Not only that but they are named after a Malevolent Creation lyric (in "The Fine Art of Murder) which is a DEATH METAL band.

Violent Insight was a DEATH METAL band, not anything else.

Why did it get rejected?

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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:48 pm 
 

PungentStenchOfPutrefacti wrote:
dudes, I'm feelin invisible...anyway, for the 3rd time in 3 days:


you might wanna reconsider AIRLINES OF TERROR (rejected once) position as they just released a metal album.
listen here (first traks): http://www.myspace.com/airlinesofterror
the album is sold here:
http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.as ... ISINGCD051


Weird. Add them again with link to myspace.
Even blind men will see that they are selling this album

Metal_Serra wrote:
http://yfrog.com/5cp1010699ij

Great. Add them with this photo.

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:53 pm 
 

Piotr_Bojka wrote:
Weird. Add them again with link to myspace.
Even blind men will see that they are selling this album

They were not rejected but on the blacklist for not being metal. The new album seems to be fine.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:59 pm 
 

spgoldfingerfan wrote:
Hey I had an e-mail saying the band I submitted was "Not Metal"

and I fail to see why

Link: myspace.com/violentinsight

You have their top influences here on the site
Glass Casket
The Black Dahlia Murder
Lamb of God
As I Lay Dying (Which BTW is Metalcore and according to your rules shouldn't be here)

We judge bands on their sound not on their self-claimed influences.
You should read again the rules more thoroughly.
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We do NOT accept the following (this is our decision, please don't argue this):

* Metalcore, unless it's clearly more metal than core (e.g Shadows Fall, The Red Chord, Mastodon are OK: Avenged Sevenfold, Atreyu, Bullet For My Valentine are NOT). If you are uncertain, best avoid metalcore bands altogether.


spgoldfingerfan wrote:
Not only that but they are named after a Malevolent Creation lyric (in "The Fine Art of Murder) which is a DEATH METAL band.

You aren't serious, are you? :shock:

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spgoldfingerfan
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:48 pm 
 

I still fail to see what in their sound makes them "not metal"

If anything including Throwdown (a hardcore band) and Suffokate (a mostly Hardcore band) in this encyclopedia, then trying to justify anything as "not metal" ill-legitimizes this site. If you stuck to your own rules, I'd certainly not complain, I get it. But with some of the submissions you have here it's a joke that bands like this one get excluded.

But I digress, tell me what makes Violent Insight "not metal", because I fail to hear it.

And yes, I'm serious:
"Swath of blood, shapes of the dead
My mind transforms to canvas in my head
Always striving set to achieve
And execute the fine art of...
Murder, murder, murder, murder
The fine art of

Blood soaked canvas
Knife for brush
Execution

Mind expressing
Hands achieving
<b>Violent Insight</b>"

Fanfarigoule wrote:
spgoldfingerfan wrote:
Hey I had an e-mail saying the band I submitted was "Not Metal"

and I fail to see why

Link: myspace.com/violentinsight

You have their top influences here on the site
Glass Casket
The Black Dahlia Murder
Lamb of God
As I Lay Dying (Which BTW is Metalcore and according to your rules shouldn't be here)

We judge bands on their sound not on their self-claimed influences.
You should read again the rules more thoroughly.
Quote:
We do NOT accept the following (this is our decision, please don't argue this):

* Metalcore, unless it's clearly more metal than core (e.g Shadows Fall, The Red Chord, Mastodon are OK: Avenged Sevenfold, Atreyu, Bullet For My Valentine are NOT). If you are uncertain, best avoid metalcore bands altogether.


spgoldfingerfan wrote:
Not only that but they are named after a Malevolent Creation lyric (in "The Fine Art of Murder) which is a DEATH METAL band.

You aren't serious, are you? :shock:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:12 pm 
 

spgoldfingerfan wrote:
If anything including Throwdown (a hardcore band) and Suffokate (a mostly Hardcore band) in this encyclopedia, then trying to justify anything as "not metal" ill-legitimizes this site. If you stuck to your own rules, I'd certainly not complain, I get it. But with some of the submissions you have here it's a joke that bands like this one get excluded.

If anything, attempting to argue the point that a band should be accepted here based on another band's acceptance, ill-legitimizes your remonstrance. M-A DOES stick to it's rules. No where in the guidelines does it say that bands are to be judged based on other band's works/accomplishments and that other band's overall musical style. Just imagine the plethora of inconsistencies that would be present if moderators went about band evaluations in such a manner.

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But I digress, tell me what makes Violent Insight "not metal", because I fail to hear it.

Their -core influences outweigh their metal influences endlessly, and in every area of instrumentation.

The fact that they made-up their name from a Malevolent Creation song does not make them any more "metal" at all. Bands are definitely not going to be accepted because of THAT. They also aren't going to be accepted on grounds of the bands that influenced them (see above).

Fanfarigoule wrote:
You aren't serious, are you?
spgoldfingerfan wrote:
And yes, I'm serious:

See: here.

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