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freezedriedego
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:46 pm 
 

Yes, but Urinefestival is (on my opinion) more death-metal-based then punk-influenced.

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Haatig
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:08 pm 
 

I added WolfKrieger(mex) and I recieved a rejection stating they had no discography. Here are two links stating this band exists and has a release;

http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/album-gr ... -l-en.html

http://www.myspace.com/wolfkrieger

Can someone explain why it was rejected. Thank you.

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Mieresch
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:16 pm 
 

There's a famous hungarian band called Edda, which is primarily known for it's 80's hard rock, which was kinda like Deep Purple in style. They were very popular in the 80's but they seem to have flirted with metal on their lesser known later albums.

Here are samples from what is their most metal album in my opinion:
http://www.edda.hu/html/alb_resz.php?albazon=17

It reminds of those crappy bands from japan, where the crappy keyboards drown the riffs. Even though not every song is metal, the album sounds predominantly melodic metal. I was surprised to hear a power metal song too. So is the band acceptable?

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:48 pm 
 

Haatig wrote:
I added WolfKrieger(mex) and I recieved a rejection stating they had no discography. Here are two links stating this band exists and has a release;

http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/album-gr ... -l-en.html

http://www.myspace.com/wolfkrieger

Can someone explain why it was rejected. Thank you.

You need a proof of physical release. Myspace alone does not prove anything and Spirit of metal accept everything without distinction and our strict rules. Read the rules on how to provide physical release proof.

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Whackooyzero
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:25 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Whackooyzero wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Whackooyzero wrote:
I submitted Mark St. John recently, and was rejected stating there were no links as evidence.

Well, I know he WAS the guitarist of Kiss but this project is much heavier.

Here are the links to a few of the songs if that helps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tD4P-wx ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_dz0lHLEek

If you look in the related videos of those you can see the rest of the album as well. It's kind of unusual sounding and one of the songs is almost all acoustic but I think it definitely sounds like heavy metal.

Not metal, hard rock at best. Not different then Steve Vai and other guitar heroes solo work. Slave Driver is the only song that could be considered metal.


You really didn't notice anything metal about AWOL, The Lone Gunman, or Communicator? Well to each his own I guess. I thought it was kinda reminiscent of the Scorpions. What metal elements was it lacking exactly? Too many acoustic/clean driven tracks?

Not heavy, metal riffs based enough. An album has to be predominantly metal for a project to get accepted.


Okay, so you didn't notice the riffs in:

The Lone Gunman at 0:43, and 2:01
Communicator at 0:35, 1:16, and 1:29
AWOL at 0:30
Magic Bullet Theory at 1:30
All of Slave Driver

Not to mention those are mostly the main themes of the songs, that appear multiple times enough for it to qualify as metal. Yes you've got Baghdad, Bourbon St, Utopian Trip, and Waiting On A Call but those are generally shorter tracks. The rest is no less metal then a band like Tygers Of Pang Tang. Who let's face it has more rock riffs then metal a lot of the time.

I don't see how it doesn't qualify as metal, except maybe that a lot of the album experiments in other areas which I guess is a fairly valid point.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:38 pm 
 

I repeat, the album is not predominantly metal. Occasional riffs will not save it.

Now, if you think this thread is for endless arguing, you are wrong. That ids not its purpose. You can ask here and will get an answer. When a moderator gives you his deciosion based on the music, then you have to accept it and stop trying. Nothing what you say will change it.

The purpose of this thread is to provide needed proof, to learn how to do it or to present less known or atypical material for band, that was rejected based their non-metal releases.


Simply NOT to argue when material for decision is readily available. That goes for all today's users with their ambient/grindcore/hard rock whatever projects.

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ODDin
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:51 pm 
 

Electric Sun. Not technically sure it was ever rejected as such, but I figure it must have been submitted or discussed by now. It's Uli Jon Roth's band after he left the Scorpions. It pretty much sounds like progressified 70s Scorpions. They've got three albums, and the second one, Fire Wind, is the heavier one IMO.

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Whackooyzero
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:20 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
I repeat, the album is not predominantly metal. Occasional riffs will not save it.

Now, if you think this thread is for endless arguing, you are wrong. That ids not its purpose. You can ask here and will get an answer. When a moderator gives you his deciosion based on the music, then you have to accept it and stop trying. Nothing what you say will change it.

The purpose of this thread is to provide needed proof, to learn how to do it or to present less known or atypical material for band, that was rejected based their non-metal releases.


Simply NOT to argue when material for decision is readily available. That goes for all today's users with their ambient/grindcore/hard rock whatever projects.


Well I respect you're opinion, and I'm not going to try to change your mind. But I should point out that I wasn't simply mentioning "occasional riffs" but rather riffs that served as the basis of the song.

Now, I understand this thread isn't for arguing, but that wasn't what I was doing, or at least not intentionally. All I did was what the 3rd paragraph your post said. I provided proof as to why it was metal, and you didn't think it was metal. End of story, I don't see why you consider that endless arguing, but as I said I am not going to try to change your opinion.

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~Guest 193166
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:32 pm 
 

ODDin wrote:
Electric Sun. Not technically sure it was ever rejected as such, but I figure it must have been submitted or discussed by now. It's Uli Jon Roth's band after he left the Scorpions. It pretty much sounds like progressified 70s Scorpions. They've got three albums, and the second one, Fire Wind, is the heavier one IMO.


They have previously been deemed not metal enough.

PhantomOTO wrote:
Anyway, I'm a big fan on Roth's work, but Electric Sun is less metal than Scorpions, who are themselves a pretty borderline case. ES (Electric Sun) is not getting on, I reckon.

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The_Alone
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:46 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
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The Alone belongs in the Encyclopaedia Metallum. due to insufficient labeling in the "genre" field, it was not apparent that this is a metal band, but I assure you they are. I ask you to please accept the current submission request. Thank you.

What you say does not prove anything. You have to provide samples which would be then judged and proof of physical release. You have to read the rules before you actually submit something.


The official myspace site has music samples:

http://www.myspace.com/thealoneofficial

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:55 am 
 

The_Alone wrote:
Witcher wrote:
The_Alone wrote:
The Alone belongs in the Encyclopaedia Metallum. due to insufficient labeling in the "genre" field, it was not apparent that this is a metal band, but I assure you they are. I ask you to please accept the current submission request. Thank you.


What you say does not prove anything. You have to provide samples which would be then judged and proof of physical release. You have to read the rules before you actually submit something.


The official myspace site has music samples:
http://www.myspace.com/thealoneofficial


Not metal, basically new wave/british alternative scene rock with sreamed vocals.

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javibackyard
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:40 am 
 

Reject the band this entry: Enochian (SPA)

http://www.myspace.com/enochianisback

For the reason that they have no recording. They have a demo recorded in 1996, and is even available for download.

On his myspace you can hear his songs.


Greetings,

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:55 am 
 

Download is not a physical release.

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javibackyard
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:03 am 
 

You can need a photo of their demo?

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:06 am 
 

Yes, that would help.

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Mieresch
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:34 am 
 

dust666 wrote:
There's a famous hungarian band called Edda, which is primarily known for it's 80's hard rock, which was kinda like Deep Purple in style. They were very popular in the 80's but they seem to have flirted with metal on their lesser known later albums.

Here are samples from what is their most metal album in my opinion:
http://www.edda.hu/html/alb_resz.php?albazon=17

It reminds of those crappy bands from japan, where the crappy keyboards drown the riffs. Even though not every song is metal, the album sounds predominantly melodic metal. I was surprised to hear a power metal song too. So is the band acceptable?


Anyone?

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:20 pm 
 

dust666 wrote:
dust666 wrote:
There's a famous hungarian band called Edda, which is primarily known for it's 80's hard rock, which was kinda like Deep Purple in style. They were very popular in the 80's but they seem to have flirted with metal on their lesser known later albums.

Here are samples from what is their most metal album in my opinion:
http://www.edda.hu/html/alb_resz.php?albazon=17

It reminds of those crappy bands from japan, where the crappy keyboards drown the riffs. Even though not every song is metal, the album sounds predominantly melodic metal. I was surprised to hear a power metal song too. So is the band acceptable?


Anyone?

Yes, there is one fast Power/speed song, but the rest is still quite borderline hard rock.


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javibackyard
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:21 pm 
 

Fanfarigoule wrote:
Yes, that would help.


Ok,

Here you have

Image

Image

The Myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/enochianisback

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Drowned
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:08 pm 
 

You can resubmit Enochian, but please include either a link to those pictures or a reference to this thread with your submission.

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freezedriedego
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:51 pm 
 

Please, listen again, so i can make a profile for the band again without the fear, that it'll be deleted afterwards...
It's not really ("pure") Death Metal but even less Punk or can you find a blastbeat in Hardcore Punk?

http://www.myspace.com/urinefestival

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Scumring
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:04 pm 
 

I've tried to submit Doomsday Cult from Russia, but it has been rejected. If you need proof links, here is their once EP:
http://letitbit.net/download/6184.6f380 ... _.rar.html
http://depositfiles.com/ru/files/scth1way2


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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:04 pm 
 

freezedriedego wrote:
Please, listen again, so i can make a profile for the band again without the fear, that it'll be deleted afterwards...
It's not really ("pure") Death Metal but even less Punk or can you find a blastbeat in Hardcore Punk?

http://www.myspace.com/urinefestival

I have told you, that it is not enough death metal based. There is nothing to be solved. The band was blacklisted and so you cannot submit it anymore.

Oh, and blastbeats do not make a band metal , nor they are exclusively a metal technique - read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blast_beat

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javibackyard
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:42 pm 
 

Drowned wrote:
You can resubmit Enochian, but please include either a link to those pictures or a reference to this thread with your submission.


Thanks.

Ok, made.

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Nordic_Warhammer
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:36 pm 
 

I'm just curious as to why Herrenvolk was deleted.
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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:41 pm 
 

You probably mean this:
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:Zb ... clnk&gl=fr

Not metal.

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Nordic_Warhammer
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:47 pm 
 

Yup, thats it. Thanks for the speedy response.
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DiscreetMachine
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:21 pm 
 

submitted a band called The Unavowed and they were rejected because they didn't have releases.

Well, just to let you know, they have two EPs out. a live one and a studio one.

http://www.theunavowed.com/music.html

I know that they're physical releases because I happen to own the live one
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EntilZha
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:42 pm 
 

DiscreetMachine wrote:
I know that they're physical releases because I happen to own the live one

You know, but the mods don't.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:47 pm 
 

If you could take a photo of the CD and/or whatever it may be packaged in (or any audio release from the band that exists in the physical world and was distributed to a considerable/sufficient extent to pass as a legitimate physical release) and upload it to a website such as http://www.imageshack.us and post the link here, that should be sufficient enough as physical proof.

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EntilZha
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:53 pm 
 

ksevile wrote:
If you could take a photo of the CD and/or whatever it may be packaged in (or any audio release from the band that exists in the physical world and was distributed to a considerable/sufficient extent to pass as a legitimate physical release) and upload it to a website such as http://www.imageshack.us and post the link here, that should be sufficient enough as physical proof.

^^ Another recurring piece of advice that could very well be part of the submission page. (Along with the bit about allowing links for proof in the additional notes.)
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Scumring
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:16 am 
 

Can I submit Doomsday Cult now? Read my post above

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kimiwind
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:21 am 
 

Scumring wrote:
Can I submit Doomsday Cult now? Read my post above

Those links arent enough !! mp3's bands arent allowed here , you need to give a proof that this ep indeed been released physically .
Try to read this thread
http://www.metal-archives.com/guidelines.php#bands , check rule 7 .
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GVOLTT
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:37 am 
 

EntilZha wrote:
DiscreetMachine wrote:
I know that they're physical releases because I happen to own the live one

You know, but the mods don't.

I can't speak for the live release, but the EP does have a physical release. See here:
http://www.theunavowed.com/creatingEP03.html

There's no link at the top of the official site because they are sold out according to a recent news post, but a merch page linked to from an old news post listed the EP for sale:
http://www.theunavowed.com/merch.html

Resubmit with those links or a reference to this thread.
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Herr_Inoddorell
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:52 am 
 

Hi again!

Hephesstus (Argentina) was rejected for the following reason:

"The picture you posted doesn't really prove a physical release. It only shows the front cover of the CD. Here is a good example of a proper proof of physical release: http://s2.subirimagenes.com/privadas/pr ... ndemo2.jpg If you can take a picture like that then please include it with your resubmission. Thanks."

Well it's a photo of their EP, maybe it isn't proper enough but it's the better I could find. Anyway, I found something in their MySpace that could be useful. It's a notice about the band in question, from the local journal "El Chubut": http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=485333912&albumID=175082&imageID=12751647

Image

This a part of the pic below:

Image

The line that I highlighted in red (El EP se encuentra a la venta en la disquería Imperio Musical), says that the EP is on sale at the record store Imperio Musical (Google Translation), in the province of Chubut. I hope that this is enough for you, to proof that the release is physical and it is avalaible for sale.

http://www.myspace.com/hephesstus

Cheers and thanks for your attention.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:31 am 
 

Resubmit.

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Malacoda
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:45 pm 
 

Son of Aurelius (Santa Cruz, CA) was rejected for being "predominantly not metal". I'd like to dispute this.

http://www.myspace.com/sonofaurelius

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Derigin
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:29 pm 
 

It has already been discussed in this thread before.

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Herr_Inoddorell
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:57 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Resubmit.


Thanks! Done.

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hypnotica
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:37 pm 
 

my band (Hypnotica) www.myspace.com.*hypnoticabr was rejected!

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:52 pm 
 

No physical release. The "new merchandise" leads to nothing.

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