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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:00 pm 
 

melonguru wrote:
Hey I'd like to know why Herod from Switzerland was blacklisted? As far as I can tell their latest record sounds like proper sludge metal: https://herod.bandcamp.com/album/sombre-dessein.

The blacklisting is from 2014 and says post-hardcore. Sounds like that still holds, with some djent thrown into the mix as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:28 pm 
 

Why is the band Neurocysticercosis blacklisted? They're the changed name of Dehumanize (from Louisville, Kentucky), and they haven't released any material yet.

They're brutal death metal, also.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:05 pm 
 

If they haven't released anything yet.. why do you wanna know?:P
They are blacklisted for being (unmetallic) goregrind since 2015.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:35 pm 
 

I want to know so that I can make a draft for them.

Thanks for the info - it must be a different band, as this one is a brand-new project.
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Anzle
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:16 am 
 

Dear Metal Archives Team

At first, thank you for hosting this amazing page and supporting Metal!

I am a member of the Band Endark The Brightness and I tried to add the band 2 years ago..but for some reasons (no guitar?) we have been rejected. We worked and finished our second album 'Cycle' that was released on the 16th February 2019, yesterday:). We now have guitars and the whole music got more brutal but still being atmospheric and epic.

I wanted to submit our band but I got a message that we have been blacklisted (maybe the status when you got rejected in the first place) - Is there a possibility to resubmit - because of the change in style (if you want we could only mention the album 'Cycle' if 'Beheaded Society' was not metal enough)?

We recently released our lyric video for the song 'Forsaking' of the album 'Cycle'. If you need the other songs from the album 'Cycle' to judge whether it classifies as 'Metal' I could send you the .mp3 files.

Thank you for considering us! Keep up the great work! Much appreciated:)

Brutal regards from Basel, Switzerland!

Link to the video:

https://youtu.be/usY2XEGRJ04

André / Endark The Brightness

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:27 am 
 

Apistevist wrote:
I want to know so that I can make a draft for them.

Thanks for the info - it must be a different band, as this one is a brand-new project.

Once there is a valid release, post proof here and we'll temporarily whitelist it. Provided it is indeed a different band.

Anzle wrote:
If you need the other songs from the album 'Cycle' to judge whether it classifies as 'Metal' I could send you the .mp3 files.

The entire album would be ideal. Please send to the email address found in my profile (see below). Thanks.
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waxwolfofficial
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:03 am 
 

Hello Metal Archives team, thanks a lot for your hard work, this site is wonderful.

I am writing about the avant-garde band Waxwolf that has been recently submitted and rejected for being more jazz than metal.
I want to explain my reason for why i think there should be a reconsideration:

1: the project features indeed many different genres but the matrice for each song can (in my opinion) be considered metal (i.e. distorted guitars, drums, bass, harsh and clean vocals). yes the jazz component is very strong but my main influences are bands like "thank you scientist" and "cynic" that also make a heavy use of brass and reeds and incorporate fusion elements to enrich the armonic scape.
*(this is not an argument "this band=that band", sorry if I used other bands with similar traits to try to explain why the line is very blurred expecially in avant-garde)

2: I am about to release a new single/extract from my next album that will be more canonically progressive death (as soon as the material goes live on spoitify i will write to the facebook page or to an admin to make the material be heard, so it is ok to wait untill then for the review)

3: take for example songs like "As black as a diamond" and "the dream king" wich are undoubtedly progressive death metal, or "clinamen" wich has a more progressive metal vibe, this leaves the last three songs:
I agree that "Metempsicosi" is 90% jazz with just a metal instert at the end, and that "A heart of wolf" is progressive rock with a metal bridge.
It's more complicated for a song like "What was left behind" to be classified, because even if it has an acoustic intro a la opeth, then progresses in a more metal chorus that then gives space to various kinds of traditional and electronic music inserts, but still i think that the core of the song is metal, because the repeated chorus features elements that can be found greatly in the progressive or avant garde death metal.

4: I am Proud to be part of the metal community since 2009, and I always considered myself to be a metalhead, and so this is a more emotional kind of appeal: I would love to have this project recognized by the metal community just for the fact that this is a part of my ideals as a musicians. (for example i never considered myself a jazz musician, but always a metal one).
I know this is not a very solid argument but I wanted to write it anyway \m/

Thanks for your time and effort.

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MorbidEngel
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:39 am 
 

Just in case this gets lost on Discord:

Quote:
derigin Yesterday at 5:56 PM
ambient/post-something/mathcore
December 31 2014


I was told this when I asked why The Misanthrope (UK) is blacklisted. I'm not familiar with the 2014 and earlier work, but there was one release after the blacklisting was done:
https://themisanthrope.bandcamp.com/album/the-plummet

If this changes anything, great! If not, oh well :-P
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TexanCycoThrasher
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:05 pm 
 

Attempting to submit End Times from fort worth and found the name was blacklisted.

Trying to submit based upon their new release:
https://endtimes.bandcamp.com/album/s-t-promo

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artery
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:49 pm 
 

Why was the Band "Suicidius" from Germany rejected ?

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:08 pm 
 

waxwolfofficial wrote:
Hello Metal Archives team, thanks a lot for your hard work, this site is wonderful.

I am writing about the avant-garde band Waxwolf that has been recently submitted and rejected for being more jazz than metal.
I want to explain my reason for why i think there should be a reconsideration:

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1: the project features indeed many different genres but the matrice for each song can (in my opinion) be considered metal (i.e. distorted guitars, drums, bass, harsh and clean vocals). yes the jazz component is very strong but my main influences are bands like "thank you scientist" and "cynic" that also make a heavy use of brass and reeds and incorporate fusion elements to enrich the armonic scape.
*(this is not an argument "this band=that band", sorry if I used other bands with similar traits to try to explain why the line is very blurred expecially in avant-garde)
2: I am about to release a new single/extract from my next album that will be more canonically progressive death (as soon as the material goes live on spoitify i will write to the facebook page or to an admin to make the material be heard, so it is ok to wait untill then for the review)

3: take for example songs like "As black as a diamond" and "the dream king" wich are undoubtedly progressive death metal, or "clinamen" wich has a more progressive metal vibe, this leaves the last three songs:
I agree that "Metempsicosi" is 90% jazz with just a metal instert at the end, and that "A heart of wolf" is progressive rock with a metal bridge.
It's more complicated for a song like "What was left behind" to be classified, because even if it has an acoustic intro a la opeth, then progresses in a more metal chorus that then gives space to various kinds of traditional and electronic music inserts, but still i think that the core of the song is metal, because the repeated chorus features elements that can be found greatly in the progressive or avant garde death metal.

4: I am Proud to be part of the metal community since 2009, and I always considered myself to be a metalhead, and so this is a more emotional kind of appeal: I would love to have this project recognized by the metal community just for the fact that this is a part of my ideals as a musicians. (for example i never considered myself a jazz musician, but always a metal one).
I know this is not a very solid argument but I wanted to write it anyway \m/

Thanks for your time and effort.

Feel free to post the new album here so we can re-evaluate, but for now the blacklist stays.

MorbidEngel wrote:
Just in case this gets lost on Discord:

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derigin Yesterday at 5:56 PM
ambient/post-something/mathcore
December 31 2014


I was told this when I asked why The Misanthrope (UK) is blacklisted. I'm not familiar with the 2014 and earlier work, but there was one release after the blacklisting was done:
https://themisanthrope.bandcamp.com/album/the-plummet

If this changes anything, great! If not, oh well :-P

Might be...whitelisted

TexanCycoThrasher wrote:
Attempting to submit End Times from fort worth and found the name was blacklisted.

Trying to submit based upon their new release:
https://endtimes.bandcamp.com/album/s-t-promo

Blacklisted for being Hardcore. A 2-song promo won't make a difference. Wait for more ;)

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Why was the Band "Suicidius" from Germany rejected ?

"More -core than metal with a bit of althardrock/mallcore in there" - Oct 2015
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RunningWild_AT
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:45 pm 
 

Just found out about 313 (USA, PA, Pittsburgh) being blacklisted.

Azmodes wrote:
Dembo wrote:
If the blacklisted Three Thirteen is the 80's one from Pittsburgh, the blacklisted message should show up also when typing in 313, since they go by that name as well. I assume they were deemed hard rock to a higher degree than metal?

It doesn't quite work like that. Only "Three Thirteen" is blacklisted, "313" is not. I'm not sure if that's what you're getting at, but variations like that aren't covered automatically; a mod has to manually add it. Anyway, as you assumed: "hard rock", November 2013

Finally they got a physical/digital release out, a compilation of their 1985/87 recordings on Tribunal records: https://tribunalrecords.bandcamp.com/al ... e-thirteen
Just went through all 19 songs and all I hear is 80s Power/Speed Metal - I didn´t find a single Hard Rock song (not even 1 out of 19!), also the ballad (#19) is typical 80s Metal…

How about rethinking the blacklisting with this 2019 release finally showing up?

---- (Edit, 19-Feb-2019) ----
Just added 313, the Power/Speed band from PA.
May someone else add the Three Thirteen (Thrash band) with the Dawn of the Shred album (2016)…
Thanks Az for removing this blacklisting!


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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:30 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
boblovesmusic wrote:
Dembo wrote:
I meant that a mod should manually add it in this case, since they also go by that name, for example on Bandcamp:
https://tribunalrecords.bandcamp.com/al ... e-thirteen


I kinda think a re-review might be in order. I was listening to it yesterday and gotta say the riffs seem quite metal to me. Also Tim Aymar is automatically metal so yeah (yeah I know that's not how things work, but just sayin :P )

Good call and I will specifically point out their 2016 album "Dawn Of The Shred", which seems to be definitely heavier than their older material:
https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/threethirteen16
https://open.spotify.com/album/4QY9beYdQl2QTehnnCYtwt
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/dawn- ... 1175715089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_H6GfrTjBk

RRegarding the post about the band 313 above, unfortunately tthese two posts by Boblovesmusic and then me got overlooked, so here are they again...

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:38 am 
 

Looks like there's two different bands here? Both are metal, so I've removed the blacklist entry.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:35 am 
 

Hi, I would like to know why CabraMacabra is on the blacklist...

https://cabramacabra666.bandcamp.com/releases

this is the new record...

thanks

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:15 pm 
 

CabraMacabraOfficial wrote:
Hi, I would like to know why CabraMacabra is on the blacklist...

https://cabramacabra666.bandcamp.com/releases

this is the new record...

thanks

More nu-metal/mallcore than metal.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:30 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Looks like there's two different bands here? Both are metal, so I've removed the blacklist entry.

Thanks, Azmodes, I've already submitted the band Three Thirtenn with the album Dawn Of The Shred.

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Milos
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:38 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Milos wrote:
Why Grudom is not listed on the site?

"Goofy horror rock/dark ambient" (from 2013)


As far as I know, this is black metal, pure as gold.
https://afgrundsvisioner.bandcamp.com/t ... endes-land

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:51 pm 
 

Milos wrote:
As far as I know, this is black metal, pure as gold.
https://afgrundsvisioner.bandcamp.com/t ... endes-land

No, it has bm vocals at times and even some blast beats, maybe, but no riffs. Just weird, rocky guitar noodling/wandering
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:44 pm 
 

Hello, I would like to raise an objection that the "Fólkvangr" band from Iceland was placed on the blacklist. The cause is that "it was not metal." Currently I again sent a request to add it, but it seems that since it was previously blacklisted, this new request was also rejected. The last time I had used this website was a year ago so I did not really know how it worked, I would like to be able (if possible) to remove the band Fólkvangr from the blacklist in order to send the last request, which was rejected. The band is metal, with folk influences, the content can be found on Spotify and other streaming platforms; in the last application, provide all the required information.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:18 pm 
 

The mods will need some samples for their decision, so I will help you by posting some:
https://soundcloud.com/folkvangr
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-b ... 1450258446
https://open.spotify.com/album/2s4Bsh9XHovbwkIltL8rKm
Proof of the distribution of the new album: https://www.amazon.com/Wolf-Tundra-F%C3 ... B07GCBLNT9

Official youtube channel with samples: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7Oo12 ... pp=desktop

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PaganiusI wrote:
CabraMacabraOfficial wrote:
Hi, I would like to know why CabraMacabra is on the blacklist...

https://cabramacabra666.bandcamp.com/releases

this is the new record...

thanks

More nu-metal/mallcore than metal.


ok, thanks

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:21 am 
 

I see that the Swedish Black Earth is blacklisted; I can understand why, given the unusual situation, but with two releases to their name (a live album from 2017 and an upcoming compilation), both of which contain brand-new studio material, I think an appeal is justified.

Label page with information on the two releases (in Japanese; band members, album and track titles in English): http://www.trooper.co.jp/artist_blackearth.html
Brief interview about the new studio recordings: http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/origin ... th-banner/

"Burn on the Flame" and "Life Infernal" from Path of the Immortal (the compilation) are explicitly listed as new tracks, and "Darkness Has Returned" from the live album sure sounds like a new studio recording as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJhlanI7oTs

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larsbs
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:31 am 
 

Hi, I tried to submit my band, Ethereal Darkness, but it was already submitted by another user. The thing is that the info I provided is more complete and up to date than the info the user posted, couldn't we replace his submission with mine? Thanks

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:57 am 
 

Could the Italian band Varego be whitelisted based on their new, 2019 album? It sounds like heavy/doom metal to me, similar to early Death SS or the more metal albums by Paul Chain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5UnV6OLueI

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:52 pm 
 

PurpleDoom wrote:
I see that the Swedish Black Earth is blacklisted; I can understand why, given the unusual situation, but with two releases to their name (a live album from 2017 and an upcoming compilation), both of which contain brand-new studio material, I think an appeal is justified.

Label page with information on the two releases (in Japanese; band members, album and track titles in English): http://www.trooper.co.jp/artist_blackearth.html
Brief interview about the new studio recordings: http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/origin ... th-banner/

"Burn on the Flame" and "Life Infernal" from Path of the Immortal (the compilation) are explicitly listed as new tracks, and "Darkness Has Returned" from the live album sure sounds like a new studio recording as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJhlanI7oTs


They blacklisted because they are essentially an early Arch Enemy cover band. Three songs of OG material isn't gonna cut it. We're going to need an album that is predominately new material.

larsbs wrote:
Hi, I tried to submit my band, Ethereal Darkness, but it was already submitted by another user. The thing is that the info I provided is more complete and up to date than the info the user posted, couldn't we replace his submission with mine? Thanks


Stuff like this happens, sorry about that. It is usually because earlier submissions are usually grabbed but we try to get the most comprehensive data but sometimes a later submission isn't really looked at unless the different in info/lack of info in the former is obviously clear. We don't replace entries of already submitted bands just due to how counter-intuitive it would be. If there is anything missing or out of date, please send a report about it.

Geralthunter wrote:
Hello, I would like to raise an objection that the "Fólkvangr" band from Iceland was placed on the blacklist. The cause is that "it was not metal." Currently I again sent a request to add it, but it seems that since it was previously blacklisted, this new request was also rejected. The last time I had used this website was a year ago so I did not really know how it worked, I would like to be able (if possible) to remove the band Fólkvangr from the blacklist in order to send the last request, which was rejected. The band is metal, with folk influences, the content can be found on Spotify and other streaming platforms; in the last application, provide all the required information.


When the band was initially submitted, the mods had some back and forth and we felt that a mix of the music sounding too chuggy/-core and mixed production of what we have heard (circa October 2018). The second submission was rejected because blacklist evasion is a bannable offence and goes against our rules (which from the looks of it, you have talked to the admins/other mods about that). Since there is a new album we'll (read: I'll) check it out in a bit.
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PDS wrote:
They blacklisted because they are essentially an early Arch Enemy cover band. Three songs of OG material isn't gonna cut it. We're going to need an album that is predominately new material.

Gotcha. It does seem odd to exclude those two albums from the Archives, though, especially given that the compilation is essentially an Arch Enemy release. But given that it's a separate band and not a name change and, as you say, there's only a limited amount of distinguishing material, I can see how it slips through the cracks.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:58 pm 
 

I know this is terribly old, and I posted in here before about it, but i wanted to raise it again because I didnt really get what I wanted last time (which was a revaluation), can someone please reevaluate Signal the Firing Squad based on their 2010 album Earth Harvest? Being a heavy editor and oraganizer of the deathcore bands on the archives it really is confusing why this band isn't on here from that album. It's almost entirely a technical brutal death album just with breakdowns and it easily fits in with the type of deathcore that gets accepted on MA.

Before I shut up for good about the band, I just want to urge the mods (preferably Midnight Rider and Azmodes in particular since both of you are great at this sort of stuff) to listen to it. If you still don't agree, I'll fuck off about it forever.
Just wanted to ask one last time
Here is the album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66JKrp8CxLA

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:49 pm 
 

GuardAwakening wrote:
I know this is terribly old, and I posted in here before about it, but i wanted to raise it again because I didnt really get what I wanted last time (which was a revaluation), can someone please reevaluate Signal the Firing Squad based on their 2010 album Earth Harvest? Being a heavy editor and oraganizer of the deathcore bands on the archives it really is confusing why this band isn't on here from that album. It's almost entirely a technical brutal death album just with breakdowns and it easily fits in with the type of deathcore that gets accepted on MA.

Before I shut up for good about the band, I just want to urge the mods (preferably Midnight Rider and Azmodes in particular since both of you are great at this sort of stuff) to listen to it. If you still don't agree, I'll fuck off about it forever.
Just wanted to ask one last time
Here is the album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66JKrp8CxLA


Not predominantly metal.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:50 pm 
 

GuardAwakening wrote:
I know this is terribly old, and I posted in here before about it, but i wanted to raise it again because I didnt really get what I wanted last time (which was a revaluation), can someone please reevaluate Signal the Firing Squad based on their 2010 album Earth Harvest? Being a heavy editor and oraganizer of the deathcore bands on the archives it really is confusing why this band isn't on here from that album. It's almost entirely a technical brutal death album just with breakdowns and it easily fits in with the type of deathcore that gets accepted on MA.

Before I shut up for good about the band, I just want to urge the mods (preferably Midnight Rider and Azmodes in particular since both of you are great at this sort of stuff) to listen to it. If you still don't agree, I'll fuck off about it forever.
Just wanted to ask one last time
Here is the album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66JKrp8CxLA


Not predominantly metal.
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GuardAwakening wrote:
I know this is terribly old, and I posted in here before about it, but i wanted to raise it again because I didnt really get what I wanted last time (which was a revaluation), can someone please reevaluate Signal the Firing Squad based on their 2010 album Earth Harvest? Being a heavy editor and oraganizer of the deathcore bands on the archives it really is confusing why this band isn't on here from that album. It's almost entirely a technical brutal death album just with breakdowns and it easily fits in with the type of deathcore that gets accepted on MA.

Before I shut up for good about the band, I just want to urge the mods (preferably Midnight Rider and Azmodes in particular since both of you are great at this sort of stuff) to listen to it. If you still don't agree, I'll fuck off about it forever.
Just wanted to ask one last time
Here is the album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66JKrp8CxLA


Not predominantly Metal.
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GuardAwakening
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:18 am 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
Not predominantly metal.


MuntantClanfear wrote:
Not predominantly metal.


OspiusCato wrote:
Not predominantly metal.


Alright, although I still don't exactly see how or why that is.
I can fully understand why their second album (Abnegate) isn't passable, but I'll never really get why the first album isn't "predominantly metal", but somehow virtually identical albums by Thy Art Is Murder or The Red Shore are somehow OK.
Figure it's no longer worth bringing this up despite that it'll never really make total sense, but I thought it was worth it to try one last time.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:39 am 
 

To me it sounds pretty similar to a more technical version of early Suicide Silence, or the Infinite Death EP by Thy Art Is Murder (neither of which are acceptable) - borderline, with parts that are tech-death or similar-sounding, but overall there’s enough breakdowns and chugs to leave me leaning no. It’s intense music for sure but I don’t think the guitar riffs are consistently close enough to what we call metal - and for the record IMO this sounds pretty distinct from The Adversary, the only reason TAIM is on the website.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:57 am 
 

To me, that band sounds like a mix of 60 or 70% core and 38% tech death. Obviously more predominantly core riffages than metal.

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GuardAwakening
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:40 am 
 

MutantClannfear wrote:
To me it sounds pretty similar to a more technical version of early Suicide Silence, or the Infinite Death EP by Thy Art Is Murder (neither of which are acceptable) - borderline, with parts that are tech-death or similar-sounding, but overall there’s enough breakdowns and chugs to leave me leaning no. It’s intense music for sure but I don’t think the guitar riffs are consistently close enough to what we call metal - and for the record IMO this sounds pretty distinct from The Adversary, the only reason TAIM is on the website.


Already totally aware that that album is what got TAIM on the website (and yeah, that record that was the album I had in mind comparing to Earth Harvest).
Im unsure if any of Thy Art's newer/recent albums would have gotten them on the website if The Adversary wasn't released, never really even listened myself to confirm or find out because i find Thy Art Is Murder to be the most ridiculously boring and overrated band ever. The Adversary was the only album I ever bothered caring about (for deathcore that thing is a masterpiece).

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ULTRAS
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:43 am 
 

Why this band is on the blacklist??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV4opSw04-w

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:02 am 
 

ULTRAS wrote:
Why this band (Blutgrund) is on the blacklist??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV4opSw04-w

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ULTRAS
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:03 am 
 

Or this (Sacerdos Mori):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_5Vco8p27s
?

Thx for answer.

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ULTRAS
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:06 am 
 

Rehearsal68686 wrote:
Hi.
Once again I tried to add Blutgrund (Pol). Please check this new split release with this band :
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/W ... sty/664551

https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/P ... nce/664553

label description of music in this releases:
http://www.actofhate.republika.pl/

and check music of this band on this releases:
http://uploadfile.pl/pokaz/1177993---1ibh.html
http://uploadfile.pl/pokaz/1178019---xqvp.html

Remove from the blacklist is possible?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV4opSw04-w

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:06 pm 
 

ULTRAS wrote:
Blutgrund

Blacklisted in the second half of 2015 for benig predominantly ambient music with little Black Metal. I see there's two full lengths since, one from 2016 and another one from 2018, plus two splits from 2017. We can reevaluate the band if you can provide us with the music of those four releases. This to properly assess the band.
ULTRAS wrote:
Sacerdos Mori

This one was blacklisted in early 2017 for being predominantly ambient, based on samples found online. Please provide us with both full albums (especially the second one) to have it reevaluated.
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