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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:53 pm 
 

Muhammadabbadabba wrote:
Inquiring about the Japanese band Sledge Hammer / Iron Hammer (鐵鎚 / 鐵槌) and their blacklisting.

I take it the Metal on "Wolves of Japan" (日本狼) didn't pass muster:
Youtube: show


For your convenience, the song marks on that video are:
1. 日本狼 0:00
2. 百錬ノ鐵 4:06
3. 愛國者賦 7:37
4. 我、怒ル故ニ我在リ 11:27
5. 焔 16:35
6. 鋼 21:42
7. 三・千・世・界 26:23
8. 風、蕭々 31:58

The first song is quite thrashy but the more I keep listening to the album, it's a mix of dirty rock & roll with whiskey fueled vocals and some old punk influences. Not really metal.
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:06 pm 
 

I agree wholeheartedly with Metantoine. It's not Metal, so the blacklist stays.
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EpicDismemberment
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:36 am 
 

Hi guys,

Teethgrinder, which was blacklisted as non-metal grindcore. I think now they have a chance to be reevaluated as listening to their second full-length album. Please, let me know what you think, Thanks.

http://tartarusrecords.com/album/nihilism
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deplo
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Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:36 pm
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Location: Lebanon
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:10 pm 
 

Is it possible to re-add a project which was previously blacklisted (?) due to 'not being metal enough' upon listening to a new release? Now I have released a digital release with newer stuff and I would just like to add the project here anyway. The project is called 'Molodost'.

Here's the link: https://molodost.bandcamp.com/

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NIMBUS666
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Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:30 pm
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Location: Guatemala
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:50 pm 
 

Inanicion from Guatemala is a Grindcore band, but has a lot of influence of metal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QMn4-CCYBE, so S.R.T. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toR7SxBcvX4, I think they should by in the archives

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NIMBUS666
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:08 am 
 

Stvan from Guatemala has been blacklisted, I dont know why, they rejected the first time for no evidence of the released of the demo, but you need to contact the band for the demo, so I think this band should be in the archives

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Deathstalker1985
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:39 am 
 

Why is Teramobil not on here? A band with a few musicians from other bands that are on here who play a similar style to those bands with the biggest difference being they're strictly instrumental but they're numerous bands here that are instrumental only so that can't been the reason...

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:46 am 
 

Inanicion: Non-metal grindcore

Stvan: Blacklist note is vague but cites overuse of synth and not enough riffs

Teramobil: Technical nu-metal

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Deathstalker1985
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:11 am 
 

You obviously have never heard them or don't know what nu-metal really is, because they sound nothing like that. The only part you got right is that they're technical.

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:30 am 
 

Blacklist note in its entirety: "Technical nu-metal" with guitar wankery and blastbeats

Albeit this was blacklisted in 2013...

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:37 am 
 

It was me who blacklisted them, though I don't remember the band. "Technical nu-metal" is probably referring to a later-Meshuggah soundalike. (don't take the term too seriously... :oh shit:)

Teethgrinder: Really not sure right now, still quite crust/grind-y. Probably no.

Molodost: That release does not sound predominantly metal.
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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:39 am 
 

Teramobil are instrumental djent. Those calling them "technical death metal" or whatever are obviously bullshitting their way through life.
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NIMBUS666
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:26 am 
 

and what about S.R.T. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toR7SxBcvX4

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:06 pm 
 

Grind.
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kejumonyet09
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:40 pm 
 

Hello, I submitted the band Blunt Shovel, which was rejected due to the band's debut not being released yet. I've attached a photo of the Sampler the bands has distributed at shows - if this doesn't count, I'll just wait until the full release-date :)

http://imgur.com/uOtGOOc

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inactive messiah
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:48 am 
 

hi, why Hijiwaemi is blacklisted? it's side project ( with the same music ) of Cuntopsy vocalist http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Cuntopsy/3540266062 and is a Grindcore band that rooted to Death Metal.

please kindly check his demo
Youtube: show
( skip to 01:00 if u dont want to hear some porn intro ) thanks

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:22 am 
 

kejumonyet09 wrote:
Hello, I submitted the band Blunt Shovel, which was rejected due to the band's debut not being released yet. I've attached a photo of the Sampler the bands has distributed at shows - if this doesn't count, I'll just wait until the full release-date :)

http://imgur.com/uOtGOOc

Cheers

Resubmit.

inactive messiah wrote:
hi, why Hijiwaemi is blacklisted? it's side project ( with the same music ) of Cuntopsy vocalist http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Cuntopsy/3540266062 and is a Grindcore band that rooted to Death Metal.

please kindly check his demo
Youtube: show
( skip to 01:00 if u dont want to hear some porn intro ) thanks

Unacceptable gore/grind. I agree with the blacklisting.
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NARAKU666
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:12 am 
 

hey guys i just wanted to to know why the band Dreamslain is blacklisted. Sounds very metal to me (melodic metal with some goth hints, though). here's the EP they released last week.

https://dreamslain.bandcamp.com/
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:20 am 
 

It's an old entry and says they're hard rock, but that's evidently not true (anymore). Is this even the same band? Whatever, whitelisted.

EDIT: Maybe the note was referring to this release: https://www.discogs.com/Dreamslain-Shad ... se/7114028 Same band, looking at the lineup.
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Themeshuggah36
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Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:15 pm
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:58 am 
 

Hi,

I hope I`m in the right place for this.
I tried to add a band - Body Void (Sludge Metal) from the US and it says they are blacklisted.
I dunno why...Metalness and releases are OK...maybe it`s outdated.
Can a moderator review them again please?

Bandcamp:
https://bodyvoid.bandcamp.com/

Thanks,
Anton.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:09 pm 
 

They don't have any original releases under the new name. The EP is a re-release of the same material put out under the name Devoid.
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Themeshuggah36
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:11 pm 
 

Got it, thanks.

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HeavyMetal1984
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Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:58 am
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Location: Poland
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:59 pm 
 

Hey,
I added a band/music project - Maciej Podsiadło. http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mac ... 3540390652
The band info was banned because of not enough heavy. I know first LP album it's 20% melodic metal, more hard rock and soft rock, but debiut single it's a traditional heavy metal. Now Maciej Podsiadło released new CD. (I have all CD of the artist) New CD as vocalist promised going from traditional 80's metal to power metal with thrash and AOR. 7 songs album It contains 4 heavy metal songs, 1 AOR and 2 instrumental miniatures. One of songs it's a Accept cover with different text.

If you want to listen:
http://chomikuj.pl/Rock.Metal/Maciej+Podsiad*c5*82o - Maciej Podsiadło new CD

I have all CD's, pictures and informations about band.

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Midnight Rider
Metalhead

Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:07 pm
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:47 pm 
 

About Mutación the only link I found to the full release is
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/mutacion/id1162098295 (which I put on the submission notes)
Sorry, I couldn't find it for free anywhere.

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~Guest 375902
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:39 pm 
 

Did the digital release only requirement get upped back to 30+ mins?

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MDL
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Location: Portugal
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:29 pm 
 

What about The Black Satans and Greta Knights?

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PDS
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:52 pm 
 

putrevomitory wrote:
Did the digital release only requirement get upped back to 30+ mins?


Nope, we just stopped being lax.

MDL666 wrote:
What about The Black Satans and Greta Knights?


The notes for the Black Satans says that they are a parody band with no VR proof and Greta Knights has no blacklist note, I"m guessing more -core than metal but since it is one of the none-note blacklists this was from a while ago.
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Derigin
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:44 pm 
 

putrevomitory wrote:
Did the digital release only requirement get upped back to 30+ mins?

The general policy is around 20 minutes of metal music. But of course that's not the only requirement.

Remember, the spirit of the law tells us that digital releases should have both some level of professionalism to them and that they should contain a reasonable amount of metal material. In many ways this is no different than how we handle physical releases, albeit instead of judging physical packaging (ie. the way it is distributed physically) we're judging digital packaging (ie. the way it is distributed digitally). But the general principles remain the same for both, or at least in theory they should be.
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Grindocore
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:36 pm 
 

Spanish deathgrind band Ernia is blacklisted, they put out a new album last September (https://erniatheband.bandcamp.com/album/ernia). Are they are elegible?

Thanks.

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stealthattack
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:52 pm 
 

Sorry guys, I invite you to read these reviews of our last album; they considered us absolutely a metal band:
http://www.breath-fresher.com/2014/10/11/stealth/
http://www.metalwave.it/recensione.php?id=7418

I also invite you to listen to our last here:
http://www.stealthattack.it/home.htm

Let me know

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HeavyMetal1984
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:11 am 
 

Ok i know. I must wait for release new LP of Maciej Podsiadło project. And if it's really 100% heavy, the band Maciej Podsiadło has been removed from blacklist ?
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:13 am 
 

stealthattack wrote:
Sorry guys, I invite you to read these reviews of our last album; they considered us absolutely a metal band:
http://www.breath-fresher.com/2014/10/11/stealth/
http://www.metalwave.it/recensione.php?id=7418


These mean nothing. We judge bands against our own standard.
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stealthattack
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:43 am 
 

Ok, thanks anyway!

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Nachtmist
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:16 am 
 

Hey guys,

I would like to know why Amtal was rejected. It's post black metal. It's almost 20 minutes (18 actually).

https://amtal.bandcamp.com/releases.

It's been released digitally only for now and available for full download.

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hells_unicorn
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:47 pm 
 

https://petercrowley.bandcamp.com/album ... seven-seas
https://www.amazon.fr/Conquest-Seven-Se ... er+Crowley
https://itunes.apple.com/fr/album/conqu ... 1183627848

I understand why this project was originally blacklisted, since it was just a one-man keyboard oriented project that was pure symphonic with little to no metal elements, but this latest official album release is cut from the exact same stylistic grain as early Dark Moor, Rhapsody Of Fire, Fairyland and several other accepted symphonic power metal projects, and even features several prominent musicians from the same bands.
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SwordofOdin
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:58 am 
 

To whom it may concern,

I am writing to you to ask if you would please reconsider the band Swartwoud for your Metal Archives.

This is the band performing Live at One Man Metal Fest, March 7th 2016

(Some intros to songs are acoustic arpeggio, but please listen to the whole song. Thank you)

https://youtu.be/1SDmzWnc3jM

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SFENSON6669
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:43 am 
 

sorry for bothering


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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:47 am 
 

If it was blacklisted for not being metal before, re-releasing it with proper label support doesn't change anything.
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Grindocore
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:49 am 
 

So if a band has been blacklisted for not being metal, is the blacklisting permanent? Or can it be reversed with the release of qualifying material?

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:50 am 
 

Of course it isn't permanent. If the band releases a metal release that meets the requirements the blacklisting is lifted.

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