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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:43 pm 
 

That is not a proof of physical release. Will you kindly read the guidelines, to which I have pointed you in the rejection message?

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unclevladistav
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:45 pm 
 

I added PUS earlier tody, but it was deemed "not metal".
http://www.myspace.com/pushatesyou

It's just a raw demo recording, still sounds like metal to me.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:51 pm 
 

To me not. There is just buzzing instead of real metal riffs, wall of noise instead of proper guitar sound in all sample songs.

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Dr_Keloid
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:13 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
There is just buzzing instead of real metal riffs

Listening now, & I can hear sludge metal riffs even tho' they're hideously fuzzed-out.

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jizzomatic
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:14 pm 
 

im pretty sure their myspace page talked about their demo somewhere. if not ill stop, and sorry for wasting your time

http://www.myspace.com/demension13

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unclevladistav
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:57 pm 
 

Dr_Keloid wrote:
Witcher wrote:
There is just buzzing instead of real metal riffs

Listening now, & I can hear sludge metal riffs even tho' they're hideously fuzzed-out.

Agreed. It's definitely there if you listen.

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Goatfangs
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:05 pm 
 

unclevladistav wrote:
Dr_Keloid wrote:
Witcher wrote:
There is just buzzing instead of real metal riffs

Listening now, & I can hear sludge metal riffs even tho' they're hideously fuzzed-out.

Agreed. It's definitely there if you listen.


I hear them too.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:44 am 
 

unclevladistav wrote:
Dr_Keloid wrote:
Witcher wrote:
There is just buzzing instead of real metal riffs

Listening now, & I can hear sludge metal riffs even tho' they're hideously fuzzed-out.

Agreed. It's definitely there if you listen.

No, there is nothing that would resemble Crowbar or Eyehategod.
It is more noise than anything.

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Hellrisen
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:06 am 
 

I added the band Birth a few days ago, and they were rejected because of no physical proof of releases. On their myspace they listed their discography, and even had the record labels listed next to each release as well.
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chris_rtp
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:49 am 
 

A band that I try to post keeps getting rejected by rule no.7.
The band has released a demo but still I get rejected. I link the myspace page of the band but I still get rejected.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:53 am 
 

chris_rtp wrote:
A band that I try to post keeps getting rejected by rule no.7.
The band has released a demo but still I get rejected. I link the myspace page of the band but I still get rejected.


http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... 85&start=0
Read the first post and learn how to provide a proof of physical release.

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deathgrindfreak
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:38 pm 
 

I'm sure I'm not the first person to try and add this band to your vault, but I was rejected on the basis they the album is not officially out until the 21st and there is no "proof" that a demo was ever released. But I assure you that it was released, since I have been listening to it since 2008 (of course it was not on a label, but he is on one now). If you need in-depth proof I suppose I could drum it up for you.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:41 pm 
 

deathgrindfreak wrote:
I'm sure I'm not the first person to try and add this band to your vault, but I was rejected on the basis they the album is not officially out until the 21st and there is no "proof" that a demo was ever released. But I assure you that it was released, since I have been listening to it since 2008 (of course it was not on a label, but he is on one now). If you need in-depth proof I suppose I could drum it up for you.


http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... 85&start=0
What you say is no proof of a physical release. How about waiting for the official release - plain and simple?

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deathgrindfreak
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:51 pm 
 

Sounds good to me I suppose. So do I have to re-up the band then? Or do you have the information saved?
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:55 pm 
 

Of course you have to resubmit it. Please, read the guidelines, before you submit something next time.

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Goatfangs
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:46 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
unclevladistav wrote:
Dr_Keloid wrote:
Witcher wrote:
There is just buzzing instead of real metal riffs

Listening now, & I can hear sludge metal riffs even tho' they're hideously fuzzed-out.

Agreed. It's definitely there if you listen.

No, there is nothing that would resemble Crowbar or Eyehategod.
It is more noise than anything.


Funny you should say that, actually this band is quite influenced by Electric Wizard. I do hear some Eyehategod in there as well, especially in the riff in Your Mother's Arsehole and Colossus. In the former song some of the vocals also remind me of Crowbar to a degree. This isn't noise, it is just noisy sludge metal with a very raw, fuzzy production.

If I had the know how, I bet I could even tab out the riffs for you. I can hear them fairly well, especially on Colossus. If someone knows how to do this, perhaps they could. I can even distinguish both a regular and bass guitar.

Colossus has a guitar solo that starts at 3:20. I heard three different riffs in this song, including one main riff that repeats in 4/4 time signature.

The song PUS has a lead guitar melody that kicks in at 0:20. It's in the background but I can hear it and distinguish a pattern to the riff. I also can hear some moanish clean singing very deep in the sludge. This is some filthy shit. I did not listen to the entire song but I heard two different distinct riffs.

Your Mother's Arsehole is the noisiest of the three. The main riff of this song reminds me of Nirvana (especially the intro riff to the song Smells Like Teen Spirit) for some reason. There are some lead-guitar melodies buried deep in the fuzz.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:48 pm 
 

Thank you for your exibition, but for me it is still more noise rock than anything. If anything, they use the guitar in the same way as My Bloody Valentine and Sonic Youth - not metal. Could you kindly stop giving your opinion on cases, where it was not asked for?

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Goatfangs
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:30 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Thank you for your exibition, but for me it is still more noise rock than anything. If anything, they use the guitar in the same way as My Bloody Valentine and Sonic Youth - not metal. Could you kindly stop giving your opinion on cases, where it was not asked for?


I am opinionated and I do like to voice it, but I am not trying to be an asshole or go head to head with you and the other moderators or anything like that.

With each case I remark on I do learn a little bit. PUS is too noisy for riffs to be easily discernible. They are discernible but very difficultly so. So from now on I'll avoid commenting on bands that are too noisy - the only reason I commented on PUS is because they are apparently doom and that is more of my niche since I listen to doom more than other genres. Another example, one I did not comment on but was curious about, is Murder Ink - my first thought was "Motorhead?" but now I hear this band is more along the lines of Wednesday 13 with a shitload of guitar solos.

So its not like I am trying to dispute everything or ignoring every remark of the moderators, I just try to understand the whys for certain rejections and with each case I learn a bit about those whys.

Speaking of the whys, (and I hope I am not becoming a pain in the ass with this band) - has Soulfly been decided on based on their most recent album? Or is there still some debate going on? I haven't seen any moderator remark on this band either way since May 25.
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Ethan9
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:30 pm 
 

I know for certain that Udumurt exists. I've downloaded their demo myself. I did all the research I could on them, and I've seen more than enough evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they do exist and have released. The band logo I submitted I cropped from the cover art myself, which came with the demo that I downloaded. A lot of details about them are unclear, but their existence and the existence of their demo "Lolita Complex" is undeniable, and I expect more details to be revealed about them as time goes on.

http://gnwp.ru/grindcore/print:page,1,1 ... -2009.html

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unclevladistav
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:16 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Thank you for your exibition, but for me it is still more noise rock than anything. If anything, they use the guitar in the same way as My Bloody Valentine and Sonic Youth - not metal. Could you kindly stop giving your opinion on cases, where it was not asked for?

Noise rock? How? The guitar is not used in the same way as MBV, it's definitely playing actual sludge riffs...the "noise" you keep referring to is in the production/recording methods they used.

And Goatfangs was just trying to help. He obviously knows his stuff when it comes to sludge and was voicing his opinion. By the way, EHG and Crowbar hardly epitomize the entire sludge sub-genre.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:43 pm 
 

Ethan9 wrote:
I know for certain that Udumurt exists. I've downloaded their demo myself. I did all the research I could on them, and I've seen more than enough evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they do exist and have released. The band logo I submitted I cropped from the cover art myself, which came with the demo that I downloaded. A lot of details about them are unclear, but their existence and the existence of their demo "Lolita Complex" is undeniable, and I expect more details to be revealed about them as time goes on.

http://gnwp.ru/grindcore/print:page,1,1 ... -2009.html

You need to prove that they have a physically released album (not just one available for download). Read the first post.

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Goatfangs
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:03 am 
 

unclevladistav wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Thank you for your exibition, but for me it is still more noise rock than anything. If anything, they use the guitar in the same way as My Bloody Valentine and Sonic Youth - not metal. Could you kindly stop giving your opinion on cases, where it was not asked for?

Noise rock? How? The guitar is not used in the same way as MBV, it's definitely playing actual sludge riffs...the "noise" you keep referring to is in the production/recording methods they used.

And Goatfangs was just trying to help. He obviously knows his stuff when it comes to sludge and was voicing his opinion. By the way, EHG and Crowbar hardly epitomize the entire sludge sub-genre.


Unclevladistav, it probably will be best to just wait until PUS releases a clearer recording - they mentioned a live release coming up on a blog post from May. More than likely that may have a better production that could better demonstrate what sort of riffs they actually play.

I always try to help. Sometimes not in the best way (I tend to be wordy) but my intentions are good.
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Maulgraun
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:16 am 
 

Why wasn't Immemorial accepted?

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:30 am 
 

There is one Immemorial from Poland listed. I do not remember any other band. You have to be precise and explain which band it is, provide links etc.

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gorilla1969
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:21 am 
 

Is this team can be added to the database

http://www.myspace.com/hiddenscarspl

or rather not
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jizzomatic
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:52 pm 
 

Is Alternative Tentacles worldwide distributed?

I submitted the band Lard and they were rejected for not being metal.
I understand that, but they were a side project of Al Jourgensen from Ministry, and they are on this site.
Lard has only been signed to Alternative Tentacles.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:07 pm 
 

jizzomatic wrote:
Is Alternative Tentacles worldwide distributed?

I submitted the band Lard and they were rejected for not being metal.
I understand that, but they were a side project of Al Jourgensen from Ministry, and they are on this site.
Lard has only been signed to Alternative Tentacles.

There is a reason why Ministry related industrial projects are not here, namely that they would look oout of place here and would encourage users to submit similar stuff. Read the rule on side projects again, please.

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elfstone321
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:59 pm 
 

hi, I just want to know if this is metal or not cuz it was rejeted.
http://www.mediafire.com/?c1myxizzwyz
is only a song (download from mediafire). Thanks

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Drowned
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:13 pm 
 

wednesdead666 wrote:
hi, I just want to know if this is metal or not cuz it was rejeted.
http://www.mediafire.com/?c1myxizzwyz
is only a song (download from mediafire). Thanks


It has already been decided that Amaranthe are more -core than metal.

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FurorNoricus
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:58 am 
 

Hey,
I guess the submission for my band Wurzlzwerg has been rejected, and I'm not sure why.

We do play metal: http://myspace.com/wurzlzwerg
We do have a release ("Dwarf King Rievezåhl", EP), as proven by this review: http://www.schwarze-news.de/2010/06/13/ ... nd-kritik/
(I know it's german, but I guess it's not too hard to figure out what "Review und Kritik" means)

So where's the problem?

Greetz,
Michael

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:53 am 
 

EP OUT ON NORTHERN LIGHTS FESTIVAL 25.6.2010!!!
So not yet released.

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Teeraal
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:57 am 
 

Grind Your Brain EP - there are now more songs on the MySpace - it had to take some time to fully upload them to the site. nd yeah - please insert "death metal" for the genre ;) I'll post something into the additional note alter on.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:02 am 
 

What?
Are you sure you understand how the site works?

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Teeraal
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:09 am 
 

I've received mail saying that there was not enough songs on MySpace proving that the band released the EP, there are now more songs so I ask the admins to check it out and decide once more ;)

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:12 am 
 

The songs on myspace can prove a band's metalness, nt the existence of physical release.

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Teeraal
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:42 am 
 

We (the band) released it here in Poland - all of the info can be provided is on our MySpace. How can I prove it to the EM admins that we have the cd's in physical form? :P

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:59 am 
 

Teeraal wrote:
We (the band) released it here in Poland - all of the info can be provided is on our MySpace. How can I prove it to the EM admins that we have the cd's in physical form? :P


http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... 85&start=0

Read the first post in the thread above.

It is also possible, that the band was rejected for not being metal. In that case, you should provide a link wuith samples here.
You should always specify in your original question, why are you asking, which band was deleted, why you were told it was deleted and provide links.

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Teeraal
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:17 am 
 

Ok. Thank you. I will upload the photo today in the evening of my time :)
HOpefully we are metal enough ;) www.myspace.com/grindyourbrain

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Clarity
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:32 pm 
 

Recently I added a band named "Break Of Reality" and it was rejecred. The reason is "not metal". But, I want to ask, why such bands as "Apocalyptica" and "Hyperion (Cze)" are present here and Break Of Reality can not? They play in he same musical style and have VERY much in common.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:35 pm 
 

Because your band is not metal. You dso not even attempt to emulate the guitars or compose something that would resemble thrash or power metal. Because Apocalyptica is here, does not mean that all bands with cellos will be accepted.

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