I submitted "The Forrest Gump Mile High Marathon". Rejected "Not Metal, Does Not Belong". I posted the myspace, and was hoping i could have that looked over again. Perhaps there was some other reason for its rejection?

No, read the rules on metalcore.

About Grind Your Brain band.
Hopefully this will prove that we have physically released our EP
It's our banner, copies of EP and patches which will be added to EP.

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/imag ... 2708d5.jpg

I tried to submit this band (myspace here: http://www.myspace.com/fourthempireovterror ) and received the following as sole reason for rejection:

"Not metal; does not belong. electronic band, no guitars"

I would like to dispute that claim. I believe that this band, on their sole album "Interdimensional Slavery.", makes _extensive_ use of the guitar on 4/5 tracks (excepting the Intro track (no guitar) and final track (where it exists, but has a smaller presence than on other tracks) ). While the band endorses download of their album here ( http://fourthempireovterror.blogspot.com/ ), I direct particular attention to the first track Paradigm I - The Event Horizon. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfm5YjKD1jw ), which features the same guitar sound that the rest of the album uses.

So I'm a bit confused. If the reason given to me by email is to be accepted, that means that whoever rejected it thinks that isn't a guitar, if I read it correctly? Sure, it's heavily effected, but it sounds like a guitar to me: the fundamental volume changes from strumming are present, the chord shifting delay is present, and all other aspects of a person playing a guitar are present.

If someone could take a look at this band - they were on the archives before and deleted with no argument here, which I thought meant likely accidental deletion, since they sound pretty black metal to me - that would be great.

--frozencemetery

You can resubmit. I also just checked the other songs you uploaded to your MySpace and the music is acceptable.

The music sounds acceptable to me. You'll just need to show proof that they've released something physically.

Bands are normally deleted with no argument here, it was not an accident.

But o.k., provide a physical proof.

Sure thing. I linked to this picture of the album when I submitted:

http://s48.radikal.ru/i121/0912/87/6a011ff8e655.jpg

--frozencemetery

Any word on soulfly yet?

Larry David was rejected because "Not metal; does not belong."

But I think they should be listened to again. While it is clearly more grindcore it is not like Anal Cunt or Agoraphobic Nosebleed which is all grind, it is more brutal death/grind along the lines of Screaming Afterbirth or Captain Cleanoff (who are both on Metal Archives). And also they do have a demo out which can be ordered on the blog

www.myspace.com/larrydavidgrind

I'm sure its been submitted. But Steelheart not in the archives? They may be more classed as rock as opposed to metal, but can anyone confirm this?

the band, Red War has been rejected because of the lack of release, but there is no way that this band could ever had released anything regarding the political situation in NK.
northern korea is a totalitarian regime, where heavy metal, or even long hair is forbidden.

it would be the first band known in North Korea, and a huge victory for metal.

Tried to submit PUS (Gbr) to the archives and was "pre-emptively rejected" because of another band named Pus who were rejected previously. We are a doom band from the UK and as such have NOTHING to do with the any terrible punk/hardcore bands named Pus from the distant past. We currently have one limited demo available and new releases forthcoming in 2010 that I'd like to add to our metal archives page in due course.

For your consideration - http://www.myspace.com/pushatesyou

Thanks

why the fuck arent swans here?? are you guys stupid???

Why aren't Swans in a metal database? Hmm, take a guess...

There is a submission form for bands not on the archives, you know. From what I've seen they are not even remotely close to metal.
And read the first post, such behaviour of yours will lead nowhere, but this should go without saying.

It is precisely this band which is blacklisted. Noise, not metal.

I tried to submit The Castle Is A Tomb from Tennessee and it rejected it. TCIAT has a 6 song ep out and is an active band.

please check and see why it rejected it

http://www.myspace.com/thecastleisatomb

Predominantly -core.

hi, you rejected my band for the following reason: lately we've had problems with some users adding bands based only on contacting the members about a physical release, only to discover that in fact no physical copies exist. You'll need to either get a more convincing reply on MySpace or have them provide a photo of the actual CD.

1.- what are you refering with this?? if they clearly told me: "Yes it's relased ,only few pieces!" (since i was asking for the phisical CD)??.
is it not enough??

2.-do you need an answer like this (example)?: yes we have in format CD and we sell it for x dollars??

3.- is that example enough?? or how??
the true is that I have seen some user that only provide answers like: i have some cd do you want it (which is not convicing and not refering if it is an official cd of the band)...
Even I can give you my password to my myspace (since I only use for contact bands) in order to see the replies (obviously for the Moderators only)

If course not. Since when is that a proof?


The best would be a picture of the CD.

Were we blacklisted before even submitting the information? I found it odd that were instantly rejected considering I'd only put our member info/genre/etc on and didn't link to a Myspace or anything like that. I'm not contesting the rules, but PUS is primarily doom/sludge oriented and contains only minute sections of music in the songs that could be considered noise. The reviews we've had (which are available on the internet) do not mention "noise" at all, but rather associate the music with doom/stoner doom, sludge or even drone. We began (before ever having recorded anything) as a noise band, but PUS has changed members and concerntrates solely on doom now.

Somebody tried to submit it, so the band was blacklisted.
Anyway, it is of no concern to you when the band was blacklisted.
As for why, you got your answer. We do not consider the style we hear on myspace doom metal or any other valid kind of metal. We do consider it to be expeerimental noise rock. Or do you want to claim that you sound like Saint Vitus or Trouble?

http://www.myspace.com/pushatesyou

Right, thanks for clearing it up. I only asked when we were blacklisted since I inferred from the previous reply that it was previously blacklisted before I'd even tried to submit it, which seemed odd.

We don't claim to sound like Saint Vitus or Trouble or any other of the typical trad-doom bands. I would claim that we sound more like some of the contemporary doom styles like Weedeater or Electric Wizard etc, rather than "experimental noise rock" though - surely that tag is more suited to the likes of Sonic Youth or Butthole Surfers... But if it doesn't fit into your guidelines, thats fine.

Why Liquorworks is not on archives? Please, check the samples.

http://www.myspace.com/liquorworks

No physical releases.

http://liquorworks.wippiespace.com/kotisivut/News.html

Ten euros for a physical copy.

Why was Smut (mkd) deleted...
Their style(on 2nd album and parts of 1st) is similar to Pro-Pain...
It's because of the last album(which is more HC/metalcore ) or something else??

http://www.myspace.com/smutmkhc
Because the samples hre are generally too - core.

Will I be able to re-submit PUS when we get a better quality recording (despite the fact our demo is a physical release available from the band on request)? The feeling I get is that even though you consider the music to be "experimental noise rock", we are certainly doom and perhaps you are only hearing the noise of the recording rather than the music.

This is a genuine question here, I'm not trying to argue, but get a better feel of how the submission process works.

The staff needs sound samples to judge a band's metalness. Samples in which nothing can be made out are equivalent to no samples at all, in both cases the result is the same: If the staff can't hear if it's metal or not, how are they to judge if the band is acceptable?

But, one of the moderators already said he considers it to be "experimental noise rock", so the music must be able to be listened to...

I'm just confused - surely some of the most important recordings in metal (specifically black metal or sludge metal) were badly recorded, yet still deemed listenable and "metal" to fans of the genres. You can clearly make out the instruments and vocals on http://www.myspace.com/pushatesyou and even though it is a poor quality recording, I would find it baffling to consider this more in the vein of "noise rock" than doom metal. And no, not trad-doom like Vitus and the like. There are plenty of doom bands around at the moment who don't sound like the early doom bands, but share the downtuned instruments and agonising, despair filled vocals/lyrics.

I am not sure where to put it other than ehre, but i wonder, My band for example has only done one release, Which is on a compilatio release with 10 other bands, would that count as enough to be able to submit it to the site or would it just get deleted?

Thanks

/Elle

No and you should not ask about it here. It is something that is explained in the guidelines. Read the first post in this thread.

the fact is that an answer of the band selling me the Cd is not a proof??
ok the last answer wasn't convicing at all. (Yes it's relased ,only few pieces!)
http://i50.tinypic.com/fkr3bk.jpg

But if they say (for example): "yes is our official Cd with booklet and we sell it for _ Dollars plus shipping, you can pay via paypal and I will send it to you, just give me your address"

I think it is enough and is the same than if the band without label provide a link to a page with a paypal icon selling their cd (you don't see the cd). I can't see the reason of why the band will lie me.

the message you sent me when it was rejected said this: You'll need to either get a more convincing reply on MySpace or have them provide a photo of the actual CD.

is that example more convicing???? (yes with the screenshot of the answer)

hope Moderators who accept or reject bands (Drowned, witcher...) see this

Some have an ear for raw doom while others do not. I argued for this band already but the last thing I said about it (until now) was that it would be best to wait until another recording. You have a live recording coming up in the future, no? Provide the sound samples from that recording when it is released to the moderators (Be mindful that I am not a mod), if it is a clearer recording it should be convincing enough by then.

A shocking revelation!

Yes, we have a live one surfacing in the next few weeks or so. I will try again then when we've sorted the audio into a physical release/Myspace uploads. Thanks for the help off everyone, much appreciated!

Hi there,

I'd like to object to the rejection of Headstone Down. The reason for your rejection was 'Must have a physical release'. I did provide details of one, and am not sure what more you'd like me to to do...... Take a picture of the disc in front of me?

Thanks

It's all explained in the first post... Did you read the thread's title?