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Drowned
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:23 pm 
 

wednesdead666 wrote:
the fact is that an answer of the band selling me the Cd is not a proof??
ok the last answer wasn't convicing at all. (Yes it's relased ,only few pieces!)
http://i50.tinypic.com/fkr3bk.jpg

But if they say (for example): "yes is our official Cd with booklet and we sell it for _ Dollars plus shipping, you can pay via paypal and I will send it to you, just give me your address"

I think it is enough and is the same than if the band without label provide a link to a page with a paypal icon selling their cd (you don't see the cd). I can't see the reason of why the band will lie me.

the message you sent me when it was rejected said this: You'll need to either get a more convincing reply on MySpace or have them provide a photo of the actual CD.

is that example more convicing???? (yes with the screenshot of the answer)

hope Moderators who accept or reject bands (Drowned, witcher...) see this


That example is more convincing, yes, but there's no saying that the band would be accepted solely based on that. Each submission is judged individually and, depending on if any other info can be found, the band may still be rejected.

You've submitted some bands this way before and I remember accepting many of them after checking (for example) the MySpace guestbook and finding comments like "Picked up your demo at the show last night" or "When are you gonna print more copies of the CD?", etc. However, if I didn't see anything along those lines or any ordering information anywhere on the band's website/profile then I would generally reject the submission and ask you for further proof.

As Fanfarigoule already explained to you, the best proof is always a photo of the actual release. The messages you exchange with the bands can certainly work in your favor, but in the majority of cases you'll need to present us with more than that to increase your chances of the band being accepted.

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XuL_Excelsi
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:31 am 
 

i attempted to post the US n oise/drone band chimora today and you rejected it. This would be my first band submission so i may be missing something, but i urge you to view their myspace page : myspace.com/jesusrapemobile for proof of their "Metalness" and of their physical releases besides the two free download albums (The Second Cumming of Christ and an earlier one).

If you still reject it, please inform me as to why so that i may improve my future submissions.

Thank you

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odium
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:23 am 
 

USA Black Metal band Murmur was rejected yesterday with the reason "According to the label's site, the CD is still on pre-order and has not actually been released yet.".

But if we take a look at the label's MySpace.com site (http://www.myspace.com/infernaprofundusrecords) we can see that the album is already released and can be ordered/bought. More over, here is the quote from their Newsletter that I received yesterday: "Today we have released MURMUR "Mainlining the Lugbrious" CD...".

Can I resubmit the band?

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Witcher
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Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:27 am
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:20 am 
 

XuL_Excelsi wrote:
i attempted to post the US n oise/drone band chimora today and you rejected it. This would be my first band submission so i may be missing something, but i urge you to view their myspace page : myspace.com/jesusrapemobile for proof of their "Metalness" and of their physical releases besides the two free download albums (The Second Cumming of Christ and an earlier one).

If you still reject it, please inform me as to why so that i may improve my future submissions.

Thank you

Simply do not submit noise/drone bands, they are not metal.

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PitThrasher
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:35 am 
 

Hello, I tried to submit a band called Hellblast and it got deleted due to the reason that I have to proove that their EP is not in download format but in sell format. (As in being released to the public).
I can proove as a matter of fact that their EP is not downloadable because it's being sold at concerts for 5 euro each.

It's from their Dutch blog and I quote : 'Earth Quaking Brutality From Hell is nu te koop bij Hellblast voor 5 euro!

Stay Brutal! '

It says that their EP is being sold for 5 euro each by them.

Link : http://hellblast.hyves.nl/blog/20915133 ... _now/GDwF/


Sincerely,

Joël Coll (PitThrasher)

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:07 pm 
 

Resubmit with that link as proof.

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coliseum880
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:57 pm 
 

I submitted Bridesmaid a few weeks ago, never saw anything show up. Can you confirm if it was rejected, or just not submitted properly?

If so what was it rejected based on?

Thanks for your time,
Bob

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:18 pm 
 

If it appeared in the queue, then it was certainly rejected. If it was rejected, then for reasons described inb the first post in this thread. You should enable your e-mail notification before you submit anything, so you could know the exact reason.

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coliseum880
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:34 pm 
 

EDIT****


Checked my profile and the notifications were already turned on, it must have never been queued then based off your reply. I will resub.

Thanks,
Bob

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TheMournersOak
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:36 pm 
 

****Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Dead Neon (United States of America), for the following reason:

Not metal; does not belong.*****


Would it be possible to have this reviewed a second time? The band has a style that is based on a mix of Venom ("In League with Satan"), Motorhead, Ministry, and Voivod with a punk/experimental edge. Please peruse through the following tracks on their myspace page to get a quick idea:

100 Suns
Doom Town

http://www.myspace.com/deadneonband

Thanks for checking out.

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Goatfangs
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:33 am 
 

Neat sound, not sure why a moderator would reject this. Definitely got the vocals down groovy, certainly feels like I am living in Doom Town.

In fact, I think I'll play Borderlands.

By the way, the band picture on the myspace... sexy collarbone. It gave me boner.

Disclaimer: I just got home from a lot of fucking Jucifer, so I may be a bit on the O_o side.
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deadlymetal
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:12 pm 
 

Fanfarigoule wrote:
There is a submission form for bands not on the archives, you know. From what I've seen they are not even remotely close to metal.
And read the first post, such behaviour of yours will lead nowhere, but this should go without saying.


shut the fuck up you faggot

early swans is heavy as hell.heavier than most metal and theyre not here?? a fucking JOKE

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:19 pm 
 

Quote:
Age 22

You sure? :rolleyes:

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:09 pm 
 

deadlymetal wrote:
Fanfarigoule wrote:
There is a submission form for bands not on the archives, you know. From what I've seen they are not even remotely close to metal.
And read the first post, such behaviour of yours will lead nowhere, but this should go without saying.


shut the fuck up you faggot

early swans is heavy as hell.heavier than most metal and theyre not here?? a fucking JOKE

Look at the url, does it say http://www.heavy-music-archives.com?
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Goatfangs
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:51 pm 
 

I've been thinking about Praying Mantis a lot recently. I know their entire discography up until recently has been determined to not be metal enough. However, I have been listening to their 2009 album Sanctuary a lot and the album sounds to me like a melodic power metal album. Very melodic at times.

So, have the mods heard this album? If not, there are youtube links to most or all of the songs. Some sound metal while others sound more melodic and rock oriented. Here are the songs on Youtube in track-list order. I included notes next to them to keep track of what the songs sound like to my ears, if I type up a lot of "more rock" songs then this most shouldn't really be here as I would've given up. If more are metal, metallic or unknown (to my ears, I could be wrong about what I think is metal about this band) then I leave that to the moderators.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvwwn-hrESU - More metal to my ears.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0_pCAq8qjY - More rock, reminds me of Journey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS5A1j_QI38 - Not sure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SibxOkr21U - Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s1veHENEko - Ballad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woRYnXzDhl0 - Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBD8mpfFH5w - Metal and best song of the album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X3gUToX6Ic - Metal / Progressive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VHkEHLW4oI - AOR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upDionsgvRY - Metal / Power metal

6 out of 10 are metal to my ears, but again I could be wrong. Certainly would be nice to see Praying Mantis on the archives considering their history and close ties to NWOBHM (but I know they aren't the only NWOBHM band that's not metal enough to be on the archives) but if this isn't metal enough I won't bug you guys about it any further.
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Schynderhannes
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:58 am 
 

Cheers.


Last edited by Schynderhannes on Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:24 am 
 

Resubmit with that link.

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Hipster_Holocaust
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Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:07 am 
 

Hey, I was just wondering if somebody can re-review the band Larry David because they are certainly metal (brutal death/grind) but rejected for not being metal (maybe they thought I was trying to submit the actual comedian?)

www.myspace.com/larrydavidgrind

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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:19 pm 
 

Goatfangs wrote:
Praying Mantis


Sounds like typical melodic rock to me. Not completely devoid of metal influences, but not nearly as heavy as classic Kansas either.

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failsafeman
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:25 pm 
 

Yeah, if we were talking a whole album of power metallish stuff like that last track it might be a different story, but there are practically no actual metal riffs on that album. Remember, just being played on a distorted guitar doesn't automatically make a riff metal.
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Harbardrsvolket
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:47 pm 
 

Why you delete Escape fron Altenburg, Germany?

They had no physical release you wrote. I add their Demo CD from 2009. This is an official release! I dont know what is going wrong, please answer.

Regards HV

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:51 pm 
 

Read the first post. It's written in the thread's title.

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Harbardrsvolket
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:09 pm 
 

Fanfarigoule wrote:
Read the first post. It's written in the thread's title.


I read the first post what a physical release is and escape got one, you can watch here on the left side of their page you can see the demo cd:

http://www.myspace.com/escapeabg

Regards

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:18 pm 
 

A tracklist with a computer-made cover. How is that a proof of physical release?

Read part 3. thoroughly.

Quote:
However, a crude band website mentioning a demo casually, with no information on the format, no links or email addresses for ordering it, no cover art, or cover art that does not seem convincing (bad photoshops, MS Paint, etc.) are not enough.

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Harbardrsvolket
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:22 pm 
 

Ok, I got the CD in my own hands should I show you a picture of them with the CD? I dont know why they got no informations on their side.

Greetz

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:28 pm 
 

Yes, or just the CD.

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Harbardrsvolket
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:37 pm 
 

Here you can watch the Demo CD with booklet:

http://hpim0137.grimwald.imageloop.com/ ... /index.htm

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:45 pm 
 

Fine, resubmit the band with that link in the notes (very important since several mods work on the queue).

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SharpAndSlender
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:47 pm 
 

Why was Aghast (Norway) deleted? I thought they were a pretty well-defined exception as a dark ambient project belonging to the metal scene.
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Harbardrsvolket
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:58 pm 
 

Fanfarigoule wrote:
Fine, resubmit the band with that link in the notes (very important since several mods work on the queue).


Thank you! But where is that link in which notes? Sorry

Edit: Ok I know, the link to this page ;-)

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:05 pm 
 

The link to the picture in the additional notes.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:08 pm 
 

SharpAndSlender wrote:
Why was Aghast (Norway) deleted? I thought they were a pretty well-defined exception as a dark ambient project belonging to the metal scene.

The project is not metal in the slightest.

The bands selecvted as exceptions and why was done so is of no cocern to users - read the guidelines which state it.

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AnythingForDethklok
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:35 pm 
 

Sorry guys, but I am a bit annoyed. I tried to add the band Tool because it wasn't on here. I was disappointed that it was rejected and I don't know why. They check all the boxes and the only reason they might've been rejected is because maybe they're not metal enough, but they really are. I'm not impressed because they are one of my favourite bands. Thank you anyway.

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Derigin
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:45 pm 
 

You answered your own question; it is because they are not metal.

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AnythingForDethklok
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:27 pm 
 

They really are though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgPUXHi8UyY
How can you say it's not metal? I would like a better explanation please.

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caspian
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:20 am 
 

One song with a sort-of-metal opening riff doesn't make a band metal. They have much more influence from stuff like Nirvana and general grunge then anything that's metal.

I mean really, if that song is the best example you can give then you're going to have to concede defeat..
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AnythingForDethklok
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:57 am 
 

Okay, if you have a spare $20 or something I think you should buy their album Undertow. It will convince you that they're metal. I really think you should reconsider letting them in these archives. Thank you anyway, I love the website :D

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DrSharK
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:31 am 
 

Undertow, while certainly having lots of heavy metal influence, is not the most "metal" thing Tool have done. Their Opiate EP is basically a mix of groove metal, thrash metal and progressive rock, and would be a much better place to vouch for an entry into the archives. I wouldn't mind seeing Tool on here, but I can see why some people would rather call them a rock band, and, ignoring the Opiate EP, they most certainly are.

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AnythingForDethklok
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:36 am 
 

Fine then, I give up. But I really believe that they should be on here.

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:30 am 
 

DrSharK wrote:
Undertow, while certainly having lots of heavy metal influence, is not the most "metal" thing Tool have done. Their Opiate EP is basically a mix of groove metal, thrash metal and progressive rock, and would be a much better place to vouch for an entry into the archives. I wouldn't mind seeing Tool on here, but I can see why some people would rather call them a rock band, and, ignoring the Opiate EP, they most certainly are.

You can even go one step closer and download their demo, which is yet another notch closer to metal. Certainly has everything Alice in Chains have and more.
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