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EzraBlumenfeld
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:37 pm 
 

metalfan99 wrote:
Ok that makes sense :) I just thought that most people still call Dir En Grey Visual kei, because they haven't listened to the new stuff. I was wrong. To mention their Visual kei roots is completely logical :) Thanks for clarifying this :)


That's a hell of a lotta smiley emojis you got going there
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:52 pm 
 

Please keep it strictly on topic in here, EzraBlumenfeld.
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EzraBlumenfeld
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:53 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Please keep it strictly on topic in here, EzraBlumenfeld.


Sorry.
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:40 pm 
 

Il Fefo wrote:
Don´t understand why this this rejected my band for not bein "too" metal. Obviusly I am requesting in a polite way. I send an EP that was realized digitaly. We were influenced and covered too MAlmstenn and Dream Theatre. the most important thing you and every body in the forum to listen to if it is metal or not. Obvoulsy we do not sound as Dying Fetus or Cannibal Corpse.

TEMPO EP (2005):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGgT5TFVDKc

If you mean Tempo from Uruguay, it was blacklisted for being predominantly Hard Rock. Yes, of the heavier kind, but still Hard Rock.
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Megalodon_
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:40 pm 
 

When was Headless Death (AUS) blacklisted?

I feel that their 2016 release, 'A Hideous Warning', may warrant the band's reassessment on account of being grindcore/death metal.

Here's a link to listen to it.

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:04 pm 
 

Blacklisting is old (2012) so reassessment is due.
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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:46 am 
 

Seems enough to warrant a proper evaluation, whitelisted.
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perzine
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:09 pm 
 

Could Mount Eerie (United States) be whitelisted on the basis of 'Wind's Poem'?

https://pwelverumandsun.bandcamp.com/album/winds-poem

It's their only metal album - everything else is anti-folk or somesuch - but if the "one full metal album" minimum rule still applies, I think this should get them over the line.

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TheStormIRide
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:18 pm 
 

perzine wrote:
Could Mount Eerie (United States) be whitelisted on the basis of 'Wind's Poem'?

https://pwelverumandsun.bandcamp.com/album/winds-poem

It's their only metal album - everything else is anti-folk or somesuch - but if the "one full metal album" minimum rule still applies, I think this should get them over the line.


Sorry but roughly 15 minutes of metallic stuff on a 55 minute album isn't going to cut it as a "full metal album."
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Medusashead
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:44 pm 
 

The band I submitted, Монте Кристо from Russia was rejected with the message "Can you provide more details about that album? Format, number of copies, reviews, etc." ALL of the available information about this band can be found on the encyclopaedia «КТО ЕСТЬ КТО В СОВЕТСКОМ РОКЕ» However, all they mention there is the album I posted being a demo. No further information can be found about the album. It is clearly a very obscure band from the Soviet years. But we DO have enough information about it to accepted into the Archives. And, they are heavy metal, which adheres to one of the most valid criteria to be accepted. Part of the biography can be found here: http://metalrus.ru/groups/57 Mind you, it is in Russian.
I hope this great band can be reconsidered.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:49 pm 
 

Can you upload a scan or photo of the relevant section from that book?
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CosmicDruid
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:40 pm 
 

Hello,

Why was Worry from Colorado is blacklisted? I assume it was due to strong metallic-hardcore influence rather than metal.

I'd like to appeal their blacklist with their latest release A Celebration Of Suffering, which is definitely mostly sludge metal.
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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:20 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Can you upload a scan or photo of the relevant section from that book?

I'll assist.
Here's this book online, page 38 - https://litlife.club/br/?b=146635&p=38
It says they released that album on magnetic tape (reel-to-reel).

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graystorm
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:18 am 
 

extermination deathcult demo:

https://imgur.com/a/z9sqd

https://cvlminis.bandcamp.com/album/death-to-this-world

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:33 am 
 

Krister Jensen wrote:
Azmodes wrote:
Can you upload a scan or photo of the relevant section from that book?

I'll assist.
Here's this book online, page 38 - https://litlife.club/br/?b=146635&p=38
It says they released that album on magnetic tape (reel-to-reel).

Thanks. That should do it.

Medusashead, is there any reason why the album you added to your submission is completely different from the one mentioned in that encyclopaedia and on metalrus?
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Klaagzang
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:20 am 
 

Klaagzang wrote:
Tried to add Ashen Chalice, which is blacklisted. Most likely due to having Noise elements in the music, although most of the (lengthier) tracks are fairly straightforward:
https://ashenchalice.bandcamp.com/track ... hyst-altar
https://ashenchalice.bandcamp.com/track ... the-casket
https://ashenchalice.bandcamp.com/track ... ane-le-eva
https://ashenchalice.bandcamp.com/album ... atimo-smrt
These make up for most parts of the demos, although there are a few pure Ambient/Noise tracks. Project has multiple physical releases through a label. A fourth is being released soon

Tried to add Vraeck, but it was blacklisted. The first demo was deemed Noise, the second has just been released on tape:
https://soundcloud.com/blackgangrene/vraeck
Tape rip of the first: https://soundcloud.com/onnormalezoon/vr ... ed/s-3NyKJ
Sounds like standard rehearsal recordings to me...


Anyone? :) Could use the space on my soundcloud for some of my own stuff...

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:43 am 
 

Klaagzang wrote:
Klaagzang wrote:
Tried to add Ashen Chalice, which is blacklisted. Most likely due to having Noise elements in the music, although most of the (lengthier) tracks are fairly straightforward:
https://ashenchalice.bandcamp.com/track ... hyst-altar
https://ashenchalice.bandcamp.com/track ... the-casket
https://ashenchalice.bandcamp.com/track ... ane-le-eva
https://ashenchalice.bandcamp.com/album ... atimo-smrt
These make up for most parts of the demos, although there are a few pure Ambient/Noise tracks. Project has multiple physical releases through a label. A fourth is being released soon

Tried to add Vraeck, but it was blacklisted. The first demo was deemed Noise, the second has just been released on tape:
https://soundcloud.com/blackgangrene/vraeck
Tape rip of the first: https://soundcloud.com/onnormalezoon/vr ... ed/s-3NyKJ
Sounds like standard rehearsal recordings to me...


Anyone? :) Could use the space on my soundcloud for some of my own stuff...

That Ashen Chalice release was already considered. Maybe the next one will be sufficient.

Any chance to get a full rip of the new Vraeck demo?

perzine wrote:
Could Mount Eerie (United States) be whitelisted on the basis of 'Wind's Poem'?

https://pwelverumandsun.bandcamp.com/album/winds-poem

It's their only metal album - everything else is anti-folk or somesuch - but if the "one full metal album" minimum rule still applies, I think this should get them over the line.

Not predominantly metal.

CosmicDruid wrote:
Hello,

Why was Worry from Colorado is blacklisted? I assume it was due to strong metallic-hardcore influence rather than metal.

I'd like to appeal their blacklist with their latest release A Celebration Of Suffering, which is definitely mostly sludge metal.

Blacklisted in 2016, based on a decision involving four moderators (though it was considered borderline). Whitelisted now based on this new material.
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Taravilyaion
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:22 pm 
 

Today I ran into the band "Necro-Cannibal Machinery" and haven't listened to something else the whole day.

So I immediately checked if they were in the db, and they weren't.
Next thing I always check if they're possibly blacklisted, and unfortunately they are.

I know this is a bit a 'strange' avantgarde band mixing metal with a wide range of different styles such as electro, folk, and even a bit of J.pop,
but I really think they should be allowed in the database.
Unlike for example IGORRR (which is f'ing great too if I may say so), this is 95% metal which IGORRR is not.

Youtube: show


Youtube: show


Youtube: show


I would therefore ask if the blacklisting of this band possibly can be revised..
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:35 pm 
 

I don't think so. The blacklist calls the 2016 material predominantly -core/other assorted things. I just sampled the 2017 album and agree with that.
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Symbolic Violence
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:15 am 
 

My band "Symbolic Violence" is blacklisted. What do I have to do for you to accept?
I already read the post...

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:31 am 
 

Multiple submissions without any sign of a valid release. Can you provide evidence for one?
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PhuckingPhiphi
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:06 am 
 

Hi!

Please excuse me if you find some weird sentences below, English is not my native tongue ;)

This is about the French Black/Thrash Metal band « Diable » that has been rejected due to absence of pictures of their physical releases. Here are a few pictures taken from their Facebook page concerning the 2 demos that have been released in 2015 and 2017.

https://imgur.com/a/ylKWg

https://www.facebook.com/metaldudiable/

Have a nice day! :)

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Medusashead
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:12 pm 
 

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Medusashead, is there any reason why the album you added to your submission is completely different from the one mentioned in that encyclopaedia and on metalrus?

Not at all. I think it has to be the same. I have read a lot about it. It seems to be the only one available.

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Azmodes
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PhuckingPhiphi wrote:
Hi!

Please excuse me if you find some weird sentences below, English is not my native tongue ;)

This is about the French Black/Thrash Metal band « Diable » that has been rejected due to absence of pictures of their physical releases. Here are a few pictures taken from their Facebook page concerning the 2 demos that have been released in 2015 and 2017.

https://imgur.com/a/ylKWg

https://www.facebook.com/metaldudiable/

Have a nice day! :)

Those are fine. Can you also link to some music to listen to, please?

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Medusashead, is there any reason why the album you added to your submission is completely different from the one mentioned in that encyclopaedia and on metalrus?

Not at all. I think it has to be the same. I have read a lot about it. It seems to be the only one available.

Okay, so according to the sources we have, the album title is Золотой факел and it's not -like you added it- self-titled. That much seems clear and both MetalRus and the book agree, but what leaves me a bit confused is where you got the tracklist for your entry from, as it differs from the sources you provided. I'll restore the band entry and award you points, but we need to clear this up as well. Or at least add a note if there is some doubt or variation in regards to the tracks.

One more thing: You added the album with the format as "Vinyl", but now we've established that it was released on reel-to-reel tape. Please be exact about these things and don't try to guess the format.
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PhuckingPhiphi
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:07 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Those are fine. Can you also link to some music to listen to, please?


Cool! :)

Azmodes wrote:
Can you also link to some music to listen to, please?


That's where things are going to be a bit tricky… As I explained in my initial message, these guys seem to be deeply rooted in the underground and pretty hostile to any kind of digital share, that’s why everything they produced have been so far only available on tape or CD. I discovered them a few days ago thanks to a friend who bought their second demo on tape in late 2017, but I don't own it myself (I was looking forward to buy the CD version, but they are all sold out by now). They play some dirty old school Black Metal in the vein of Venom, early Bathory and early Sodom. All lyrics are in French and they sing about Satan, witchcraft, sex… Well, your typical Black Metal topics, but with a little bit of humor from time to time. They sound rather raw, but not awful.

I don't think my friend has the equipment to convert a tape into MP3, but next time I go to his place, I can try to record one track or two with my Smartphone if that might help. But this won't be before several weeks at best :(

Also, Diable are registered on the « Spirit of Metal » website since 2015 (the biggest French Metal database). I think you can find some info there too: https://www.spirit-of-metal.com/fr/band/Diable

Hope this helps… ;)

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:29 pm 
 

Okay, while we usually like to have samples for listening, exceptions can be made. Telling from your descriptions, the unambiguous genre and such, this is fair enough. I have restored the band.

If you ever get your hands on some tracks, though, feel free to email them to me (address below). Thanks.
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PhuckingPhiphi
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:34 pm 
 

Sure, thank you very much Azmodes!

Merci beaucoup ! ;)

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EzraBlumenfeld
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:48 pm 
 

Why was Rope (black metal from Brazil) blacklisted?
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Diamhea
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Wimpy post-rock/depressive suicidal.
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CBRVE
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:56 pm 
 

Methgoat looks and sound Metal to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcHR3yjdSEY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfOgTWGQJtA

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Erosion of Humanity
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It was rejected yesterday. So no.
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I couldn't really make out any riffs with that one.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:46 pm 
 

I was banned for submitting a blacklisted band (The Aurora Project), but in my opinion it's unfair as the band was rejected for previous albums. Selling the Aggression (the record I believed was sufficiently metal based) didn't come out as far as I could tell from the blacklist remark (which was about previous album Shadow Border). So hence I resubmitted the band. I even mentioned this in my submission. I get it if you deem it more prog rock than prog metal, but a ban is an unnecessary harsh fine for this.

This was the album in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ew2aHu ... 4GnNlJkpug

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:02 pm 
 

sam1oq wrote:
but a ban is an unnecessary harsh fine for this.


Um, no. It isn't. It is explicitly stated in the warning when you try to enter a blacklisted band's name:

Quote:
If you think this is an error, please ask in this forum thread. Attempting to circumvent the blacklist is a bannable offense. Thank you.


It isn't our fault you failed at reading comprehension, or if you didn't even see this warning by some circuitious way of logic when submiting a band, it isn't our fault in general for other people's idiocracy. Ask first, then submit.

And for the record, eh, the second album still sounds more prog rock than metal by a good amount.
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cesp
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:32 am 
 

Vanfrejd was rejected due to lack of proof. Here's a link to Vanfrejds bandcamp, where an album was released earlier today.

https://vanfrejd.bandcamp.com/

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MasterOfSin
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:02 am 
 

cesp wrote:
Vanfrejd was rejected due to lack of proof. Here's a link to Vanfrejds bandcamp, where an album was released earlier today.

https://vanfrejd.bandcamp.com/


Hi,
so provide the information required and submit again the band, the bandcamp link seems to be enough to listening the songs.
Thank you.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:20 pm 
 

Is this enough to put Krull (Brazil) in condition of acceptance?

http://www.nuclearblast.de/en/products/ ... coast.html
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:09 pm 
 

Blindfolded and Led to the Wood's second album Modern Adoxography (2017) is available online in full now. Definitely not as deathcore inclined as the last one. Any chance of them being un-blacklisted?

https://youtu.be/8XYtYAx_drc

https://balttw.bandcamp.com/album/modern-adoxography

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cranialcrusherabc wrote:
Is this enough to put Krull (Brazil) in condition of acceptance?

http://www.nuclearblast.de/en/products/ ... coast.html


Also this: https://www.facebook.com/krullheavymeta ... =3&theater
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:01 pm 
 

Whitelisted Krull - go ahead and submit, this is definitely heavy/power metal.

Blindfolded and Led to the Woods sounds like deathcore. I'm not sure if this is acceptable, there's some metal in there, but a lot of core. We could use a second mod opinion.

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