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Witcher
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Location: Czech Republic
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:34 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Following Paganiusi's advice, I am posting here a few bnds, that have been falsely tagged with the thrashcore genre:
Undertow (Germany) - gothic/doom metal
https://open.spotify.com/artist/5VDEccNE2sLSs3QCiw6YTg
https://www.youtube.com/user/34CE
Ritual (Ita)- thrash/groove metal
https://www.youtube.com/user/MaxRITUAL
Stoutness (Fra): thrash/groove metal
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChYlue ... NATr4LXbqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR5YPyc9LHc
Days Of Grace (Ger) - thrash/groove metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYYdH885w8c
https://open.spotify.com/artist/7cD0ZuhK6ztPdQpPuv1wl1
Taunt - death/thrash metal/metalcore
https://www.youtube.com/user/666TAUNT
Pink Little Pig - thrash/groove metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUqwx3pwUI4
Nerun- thrash metal/crossover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R88GIw9vrm8
Terremoto - thrash/groove metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU2JXTs2qGc
https://open.spotify.com/album/1DmXTcuSWp0xphzPzPXmyi

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
Migration of https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/747861 to help clear the report queue

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bl ... 3540470767

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoUQKO ... 3t6vPUE9Kw

From a visitor, but written like it's from the band. "We are a Raw Black Metal band not only a Black Metal Band."

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AndromedaVessel
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Joined: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:10 am
Posts: 101
Location: Brazil
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:10 pm 
 

Timeless Necrotears

Sorry to whoever decides to listen to this, but I'd like to suggest a change from current to "Gothic Black/Doom Metal (early); Avant-garde/Experimental Gothic/Doom Metal (later)", with the "early" period being the demos and the live EPs, and "later" being all the rest.

The demos and live EPs:
- Mournful Melodies for Darkness
- Self-titled
- Live at Bascula 1994
- Live at Sala Mephisto 1996

Five random albums of the rest (it's pretty much how this project goes from 2013 onwards):
- Thora's Ride Through the Halls of Eternity
- Barcelona AD 2099
- Jurzikum Part 1
- Goddesses & Gods of the Universe 2
- Diary of an Interdimensional She-Scientist

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TheLoneForest
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Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:16 pm
Posts: 572
Location: Quebec
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 2:19 pm 
 

https://youtu.be/RFtRXatjj1s

New Lantlos. Genre should be Post Black Metal (Early); Alternative/Post-Metal (Later)

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delcev903
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Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:16 pm
Posts: 36
Location: Macedonia (FYROM)
PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 11:44 am 
 

I added Krigstjørn (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Kr ... 3540488283) as BLACK METAL band and KingSpooky changed it to post-black (when he was accepting the submission) which is FALSE statement.
This band is clearly only a black metal band. I don't know where this guy heared that post thing. Here are some samples and change it back to black metal:
https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Krigstj%C3% ... B08XYG7NXN


btw. this is not the only case where he is changing the genre on his own. And in most situations he is wrong!

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Metantoine
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Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:00 pm
Posts: 11986
Location: Montréal
PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 9:37 pm 
 

AndromedaVessel wrote:
Timeless Necrotears

Sorry to whoever decides to listen to this, but I'd like to suggest a change from current to "Gothic Black/Doom Metal (early); Avant-garde/Experimental Gothic/Doom Metal (later)", with the "early" period being the demos and the live EPs, and "later" being all the rest.

The demos and live EPs:
- Mournful Melodies for Darkness
- Self-titled
- Live at Bascula 1994
- Live at Sala Mephisto 1996

Five random albums of the rest (it's pretty much how this project goes from 2013 onwards):
- Thora's Ride Through the Halls of Eternity
- Barcelona AD 2099
- Jurzikum Part 1
- Goddesses & Gods of the Universe 2
- Diary of an Interdimensional She-Scientist

I GUESS.
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KingSpooky
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Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:24 pm
Posts: 768
Location: United States
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 11:49 am 
 

Hi,
Listening again to Krigstjørn, I do hear a post-Black Metal sound in tracks 3 and 6 of the clips that were provided. Feel free to put in a wrong genre report in these kind of cases, providing the full release to take into consideration.
Not sure what you mean about changing the genre "on my own." There are a lot of times that I discuss changing a genre with other people before doing so. As often as I deal with adjusting genres, there will be some error/disagreement, in which cases you can send in a report with your point of view and music to reference, rather than voicing it somewhere on the forum where I am only made aware of it from a third party. I hope this helps.

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oneyoudontknow
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Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 6:25 pm
Posts: 5293
Location: Germany
PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2021 4:18 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Zona_Morta/9762

There is a report:
Code:
 Death / Thrash
Source/Evidence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-TfogSj0IY
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Vadara
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Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:14 pm
Posts: 354
Location: United States
PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2021 4:21 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Me ... 3540418825

Should be tagged as "Brutal Deathcore (Early), Blackened Brutal Deathcore (Later)". They dropped a new album and it is extremely heavy with black metal influence in the riffs and atmosphere, but still includes a shitload of (actual) slams and breakdowns. The first three songs alone are all you need to tell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84TfX98cLYA

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Heliogabalus
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Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:57 pm
Posts: 106
Location: Italy
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 6:52 am 
 

The new album by Gargoyle sounds more like black/doom metal than doom metal: https://gargoylehorror.bandcamp.com/alb ... -necrodoom

Genre should be Doom Metal (early); Black/Doom Metal (later), in my opinion

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ga ... 3540409776

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Heliogabalus
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Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:57 pm
Posts: 106
Location: Italy
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 9:48 am 
 

Another band I want to bring to your attention is Chaos Echoes: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ch ... 3540353940

They are listed as Death/Doom Metal but this genre tag doesn't reflect their music properly.

Many releases are filled with Drone/Ambient elements (including their full length "Transient"). A couple of releases are Drone/Ambient only ("The Umfathomable") or Drone/Jazz ("Sustain"). Jazz presence is also very strong (see "Parisian Sessions / Rehearsal I", "Duo Experience / Spectral Affinities"), even on their most metal releases (see song textures on "Mouvement").

Experimental Death Metal/Drone/Jazz might be a better tag.

Listen: https://chaosechoes.bandcamp.com/

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TheUnhinged
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Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:28 pm
Posts: 334
Location: United States
PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:39 pm 
 

Heliogabalus wrote:
Another band I want to bring to your attention is Chaos Echoes: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ch ... 3540353940

They are listed as Death/Doom Metal but this genre tag doesn't reflect their music properly.

Many releases are filled with Drone/Ambient elements (including their full length "Transient"). A couple of releases are Drone/Ambient only ("The Umfathomable") or Drone/Jazz ("Sustain"). Jazz presence is also very strong (see "Parisian Sessions / Rehearsal I", "Duo Experience / Spectral Affinities"), even on their most metal releases (see song textures on "Mouvement").

Experimental Death Metal/Drone/Jazz might be a better tag.

Listen: https://chaosechoes.bandcamp.com/


I agree with this. They aren't a death/doom band.

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Muhammadabbadabba
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Joined: Wed Dec 31, 1969 8:00 pm
Posts: 1264
Location: R'lyeh
PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:48 pm 
 

A few years ago, I reported Honor because I felt and still feel that Viking Metal should be added to the field, but apparently, a band must have Viking themes to merit such classifying. Given that W płomieniach wschodzącej siły (and its English dub In Flames of the Rising Power) feature all the compositional aspects (big, bombastic riffs that convey epicness minus the folksiness) plus a song referencing Thor and berserkers charging into battle as well as other songs referencing Slavic gods and other things associating with Rodnovery, Honor's Metal albums have thoroughly earned the distinction of being called Viking Metal.

Here are songs from that album.
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I Am the Law
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Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2003 1:46 pm
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:32 am 
 

The band Warknife should be updated. Only the first album is death/thrash. The second one is some kind of progressive or post-* style. I'm not sure how you'd label it but it's definitely not death/thrash.
https://warknife.bandcamp.com/album/amorphous

Also I don't think my previous post was ever acknowledged, or maybe the mods disagreed with it, but I didn't see a reply.

I Am the Law wrote:
The band Chronicle from Denmark is under the genre "Blackened Melodic Thrash Metal". I really don't think this is even remotely accurate. I don't hear any black metal in their music aside from maybe a borderline riff here and there and the thrash influence is questionable at best.

https://chroniclemetal.bandcamp.com/releases
https://open.spotify.com/album/680sggmpRZ5197QeBa1bkb


They sound more like melodic death metal than anything else to me.

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MDL
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:00 pm 
 

This band is currently tagged as "melodic metal": https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Innosin/34919

While there are only two traceable tracks from that same release, I guess it is fair to assume that these constitute what could've been the musical basis of the band. To me, it could be changed to gothic metal or even melodic heavy metal, as their music is pretty much on the vein of another bands of that same style, like Crimson Sun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FodLbaoJSeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loZkWXO0fa4

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Death By Wall of Text
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Joined: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:18 pm
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:11 am 
 

Votum - my suggestion would be "Progressive/heavy metal (early), Progressive/atmospheric/industrial metal (later)"

It's tricky as they've always been prog metal with something that definitely made them a bit of an outlier and darker than most prog metal.

Their early stuff has a darker, almost doomy vibe and some riffs that would belong on a Green Carnation or Paradise Lost record, but not sure if that's enough for a "doom" tag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilCDblEQpv4
The latest full-length (so far) has a slight Katatonia vibe, simpler riffs and denser arrangements with some electronics, hence "progressive/atmospheric" imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqhh8aziRCg
The latest EP goes deeper into industrial, has more techy riffs and definitely fits that "atmospheric" label. There's even a slight djent element but again I don't think it's enough for a "djent" tag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf8ity-CA_s

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OCD means Death
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:14 am 
 

Is Unjoy(https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Unjoy/3540322371) Depressive Black Metal?
Photophobia is tagged DBM, what is the difference between them?
Sorry if I'm wrong.

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MDL
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Posts: 497
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:32 pm 
 

Descend Into Maelstrom has recently adopted a more progressive/experimental edge to their music:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/De ... 3540423997

https://descentintomaelstrom.bandcamp.com/track/pater
https://descentintomaelstrom.bandcamp.com/album/gehenna

It could be changed to something like: "Melodic Death Metal (early), Progressive Death Metal (later)".

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GuardAwakening
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Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:35 pm
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:56 am 
 

The long-running policy and golden rule of the site has always been "heavy metal ONLY"....
well then why are there a couple bands listed solely as progressive rock then? About 3 of them arent even side-projects (which i thought was the only exception for non-metal bands), so it's very peculiar.

Today I filed a report for Rush to have "heavy metal" brought back to their genre. It's beyond me why it was even removed in the first place and without it, it only makes their presence on MA even more confusing. There is no note in their bio that even explains why they're here despite only being listed as prog rock.
But despite this I really hope my report could maybe get fulfilled because i feel like i've brought up some valid points
https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/762958/

Shortly after this I did a search to see if this is common anywhere else, and then I noticed these bands (which dont appear to be side-projects) are also listed SOLELY as progressive rock:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Unicorn/5445
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Transatlantic/5503

So shouldn't they either have a metal genre added to their genre or should be deleted from the database? ........Or do these two have some super notable musicians that make the cut for the "side project" rule somehow and i'm just being dense? (Most of these bands usually mention it in the notes).

All & all the main point of this is that I hope Rush's genre problem can get fixed.
The other stuff on this was just a little extra.

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Witcher
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Location: Czech Republic
PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:43 am 
 

Unicorn were acceptd as a side project by Dan Swanö. Do you see him in the line-up?
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Unicorn/5445
It wawas recently explained on the "Cleansing The Archivess" forum , sso you can search for it.
Transatlantic were accepted as a side project of Mike Potnoy, when he was still in Dream Theater.

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