We now have an exact time for which a band with their first release become valid on the site. What exactly are the approval/rejection standards for premature submissions? It's a good idea to use the MA time as a uniform standard but the announcement didn't really specify any potential consequences for ignoring the time. We all know that there are rule and announcement ignorers everywhere, it's going to happen... if it hasn't already.

For example, if a user submits a band 30 minutes too early or even less and a mod sees the timestamp, is automatic precedence given to any other submission of the same band? If there is an early submission in the list, are users still discouraged from submitting the same band to the queue but at the correct time?

Well, what are the consequences of ignoring the rules and/or mod instructions? Submit a band prematurely and it's a rejection. If it keeps happening, increasingly more drastic measures will be taken.


If the other draft was submitted according to the rules, then yes, of course.


No.

That's good to know. The consequences of ignoring rules range from a friendly reminder or rejection of a submission up to an account ban, depending on the infraction. I wasn't sure how much this new rule was going to be enforced. If any submission that's 10 minutes premature will automatically be rejected, then perhaps this new MA time standard should be added to the site rules under "Valid releases", stating the potential consequences... certainly before the next news post at latest... or new users might miss it. Derigin recently said that submitting too early is frowned upon and discouraged but the band will be accepted if no one else has submitted it and it's valid by the time a mod finds it. However, that was before the announcement.

ah sure, I see what you were getting at now. There's a spectrum of infractions, submitting a band early isn't exactly on the same level as flatout vandalism or blacklist evasion (though naturally the dosage makes the poison), so as I said as a first time offense it's going to be a rejection informing the user of what they did wrong. Only when it becomes symptomatic of someone just not giving a shit about the rules and ignoring the mods are we going to bring out the big guns.


No argument from me there. Unfortunately I can't update the rules section myself, but that's going to be taken care of by one of the higher-ups soon.


Yeah, I don't want to put words in derigin's mouth, but that was from before we decided to make this explicit once and for all. Before that we tended to be more lenient since it was an ambiguous issue. "frowned upon" is certainly no longer the right phrase. From now on we should be more strict with this, though you definitely bring up a scenario where the staffer who comes across a premature submission validated by the passage of time can choose to just approve it for the sake of convenience. The user sh/would still receive a message or warning via the site, though.

Cheers... now I know we're strict on this, which is useful as now I know I can still submit my band if someone else has jumped the gun by 10 minutes. This rule is much clearer now.