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Rainer1
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:16 pm 
 

Why is Orphonic Orchestra on the site. They are a lighter version of Evanescence not even close to metal.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:50 am 
 

Rainer1 wrote:
Why is Orphonic Orchestra on the site. They are a lighter version of Evanescence not even close to metal.


No, they are more metal than Evanescence, with (almost) no annoying nu-metal influences. When Nightwish can be here, this too.

You are a fan of Within Temptation and say this is not metal? :nono:

Live with it.

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christkiller
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:48 am 
 

should this band be here?

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=99012

Apparently someone (Witcher?) rejected it on July 14th '(submitted by ImmortalSargon, who complained) saying it was not metal (only one song in the samples is metal, dixit)

And today it was accepted.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:02 am 
 

christkiller wrote:
should this band be here?

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=99012

Apparently someone (Witcher?) rejected it on July 14th '(submitted by ImmortalSargon, who complained) saying it was not metal (only one song in the samples is metal, dixit)

And today it was accepted.


I have listened to it again and I correct it to 3 metal songs, since one unlisted started to play now.

I personally would hesitate to accept it, since it does not seem like consequently metal album- the other sample songs are asolutely not metal.

But maybe someone heard it all and knows more.

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Helvede
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:25 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
christkiller wrote:
should this band be here?

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=99012

Apparently someone (Witcher?) rejected it on July 14th '(submitted by ImmortalSargon, who complained) saying it was not metal (only one song in the samples is metal, dixit)

And today it was accepted.


I have listened to it again and I correct it to 3 metal songs, since one unlisted started to play now.

I personally would hesitate to accept it, since it does not seem like consequently metal album- the other sample songs are asolutely not metal.

But maybe someone heard it all and knows more.


I accepted it, but mostly because it seems to be a sideproject of a member of Wolven Ancestry. I haven't listened to all of the songs on the myspace page, but it seems that there are songs that are metal enough, and then some ambient/whatever interludes in between.

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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:47 pm 
 

Band: Verum (Industrial Metal) even i it was submitted by a regular i don't see how an Industrial Metal band can be accept without any song sample at least.

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christkiller
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:19 am 
 

it is the new rule here, we accept everything without any proofs...

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Caliginosity
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:24 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=22483

No apparent discography, anyone know about any releases?
Dead links also.

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Iron_Gherkin
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:17 am 
 

I know I'm treading on old ground but whats the official consensus why Faith No More are here?
I really don't see how they are more metal than alternative. It's not even as if they've at least released a totally metal album...

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:25 am 
 

Iron_Gherkin wrote:
I know I'm treading on old ground but whats the official consensus why Faith No More are here?
I really don't see how they are more metal than alternative. It's not even as if they've at least released a totally metal album...


The general consensus is the such famous band are here for a reason and should not be discussed, because it starts a wave of flaming and trolling each time. The Real Thing can be considered metal enough, so they can be accepted based on that. And I will be harsh and will ask you, why do you think, that an opinion of completely anonymous newbie user on a worldwide famous band should matter somehow?

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Iron_Gherkin
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:30 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Iron_Gherkin wrote:
I know I'm treading on old ground but whats the official consensus why Faith No More are here?
I really don't see how they are more metal than alternative. It's not even as if they've at least released a totally metal album...


The general consensus is the such famous band are here for a reason and should not be discussed, because it starts a wave of flaming and trolling each time. The Real Thing can be considered metal enough, so they can be accepted based on that. And I will be harsh and will ask you, why do you think, that an opinion of completely anonymous newbie user on a worldwide famous band should matter somehow?


Erm...did I say somewhere my opinion on them SHOULD matter? When I last checked, a forum was a place where people discuss things.

A level headed, genuine and intelligent response on why they're included here was what I was looking for. I guess the wait continues...

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:38 am 
 

Iron_Gherkin wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Iron_Gherkin wrote:
I know I'm treading on old ground but whats the official consensus why Faith No More are here?
I really don't see how they are more metal than alternative. It's not even as if they've at least released a totally metal album...


The general consensus is the such famous band are here for a reason and should not be discussed, because it starts a wave of flaming and trolling each time. The Real Thing can be considered metal enough, so they can be accepted based on that. And I will be harsh and will ask you, why do you think, that an opinion of completely anonymous newbie user on a worldwide famous band should matter somehow?


Erm...did I say somewhere my opinion on them SHOULD matter? When I last checked, a forum was a place where people discuss things.

A level headed, genuine and intelligent response on why they're included here was what I was looking for. I guess the wait continues...


This is the suggestion and complaints forum , not a free discussion club. this thread is exactly for complaints, not for some free chat about bands.
Do not play innocent. You will hardly get a better answer, if you will look further in this and the other thread here, you will see an answer by Nightgaunt, that you cannot expect two pages elaborates why certain band is or is not metal. GOODBYE NOW!! And take it as an instruction to change the topic and way of discussion completely.

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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:47 am 
 

why Northaunt, Aghast (Nor), Hagalaz' Runedance, Nebelhexë are included?

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:20 am 
 

GraveWish wrote:
why Northaunt, Aghast (Nor), Hagalaz' Runedance, Nebelhexë are included?

speaking of Dark Ambient:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=23899
and as we are discussion these bands: A dark Ambient side-projekt of Zarach Baal Tharagh would not be accepted or?; I have one demo (no.4, date: 2001)
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:48 am 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
GraveWish wrote:
why Northaunt, Aghast (Nor), Hagalaz' Runedance, Nebelhexë are included?

speaking of Dark Ambient:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=23899
and as we are discussion these bands: A dark Ambient side-projekt of Zarach Baal Tharagh would not be accepted or?; I have one demo (no.4, date: 2001)


Was it released on a label with worldwide distribution? Seeing as what is the main band, I would strongly doubt it in this case. :smile:

Second case:
M.Zetterberg - ate you sure he is not active in some bm band now, seeing as it was added by christkiller?
If not, I will probably delete it - not a side project.
Of course we all make mistakes, myself included.

It is only a small drop among the hundreds of bands he submitted, so it will not be a big loss for him, I guess ... :grin:


Last edited by Witcher on Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:00 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:51 am 
 

GraveWish wrote:
why Northaunt, Aghast (Nor), Hagalaz' Runedance, Nebelhexë are included?


Frankly, I do not know. Perhaps because it was reviewed by some metal magazine at the time of release. Musically it is not metal, that is sure. I am not particularly happy to see such bands here. It seems first Runedance was added and then it went like avalanche- the users started to submit anything personally related to it.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:23 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
oneyoudontknow wrote:
GraveWish wrote:
why Northaunt, Aghast (Nor), Hagalaz' Runedance, Nebelhexë are included?

speaking of Dark Ambient:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=23899
and as we are discussion these bands: A dark Ambient side-projekt of Zarach Baal Tharagh would not be accepted or?; I have one demo (no.4, date: 2001)


Was it released on a label with worldwide distribution? Seeing as what is the main band, I would strongly doubt it in this case. :smile:

Second case:
M.Zetterberg - ate you sure he is not active in some bm band now, seeing as it was added by christkiller?
If not, I will probably delete it - not a side project.
Of course we all make mistakes, myself included.

It is only a small drop among the hundreds of bands he submitted, so it will not be a big loss for him, I guess ... :grin:

He has distributed it by his own label 'Sado Ambient Productions', but I have no idea on how many of them exist.
I think Christkiller will know more about this band...
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Caliginosity
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:20 pm 
 

Caliginosity wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=22483

No apparent discography, anyone know about any releases?
Dead links also.



Another one, no info or discography

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=9061

And one more again, no discography, a statement says they're split up now

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=14998

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:35 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=99441

I disagree with MMisantropo accepting this. They sound like a softer and tamer version of Genocide SS.
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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:48 am 
 

I didn't accept it, never heard it myself.

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:50 am 
 

MMisantropo wrote:
I didn't accept it, never heard it myself.

Ah, sorry. I just assumed so because you were the last one to modify it.
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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:40 am 
 

I believe it was Witcher.

If I'm incorrect, I apologize in advance.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:29 am 
 

droneriot wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=99441

I disagree with MMisantropo accepting this. They sound like a softer and tamer version of Genocide SS.


No, I cannot help, but I hear enough Motorhead, Warfare and Tank influences in their style, not to speak about metallic riffing. Pure punk it certainly is not. Listen to "She waits". Your comparison is only partially valid. Especially they are very similar to the mentioned Warfare. Now what?

Genocide SS is also hearably metal influenced, but the songs quite vary in style and the influence level, so I would be reluctant to accept them.

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Gutterscream
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:11 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=98770

Wow. :shock: :smile:
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:19 am 
 

Gutterscream wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=98770

Wow. :shock: :smile:


Yes, Black Flag has the album, if you want to listen to it.
Another early Sabbath inspired band with progressive parts, like Flower Travellin' Band and the likes.

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Splitzero36
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:12 pm 
 

This is my fault for leaving my account logged in, so I come to fix it.My account I use for adding and correcting bands on MA is Obituary36, under this name a band was added, but not by me but my room mate.The band I'm talking about is "Zimowy Chmura", It was only myself and I never released anything under this name, and the name written is actually wrong it's "Zimowe Chmury".I have the "Demo" in my hands at the moment and I wish to have it removed from MA becuase it is a false add.I never released a thing under that name.Any Proof required I can give, if need be.
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christkiller
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:30 pm 
 

Splitzero36 wrote:
This is my fault for leaving my account logged in, so I come to fix it.My account I use for adding and correcting bands on MA is Obituary36, under this name a band was added, but not by me but my room mate.The band I'm talking about is "Zimowy Chmura", It was only myself and I never released anything under this name, and the name written is actually wrong it's "Zimowe Chmury".I have the "Demo" in my hands at the moment and I wish to have it removed from MA becuase it is a false add.I never released a thing under that name.Any Proof required I can give, if need be.


by your room mate? yeah yeah.......

-_-

you're both morons, you for leaving your account logged on and your room mate (if he exists.) for adding a fake band

If I were you, I'd kick him in the face (or bang your own head in a wall)

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obituary36
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:45 pm 
 

christkiller wrote:
Splitzero36 wrote:
This is my fault for leaving my account logged in, so I come to fix it.My account I use for adding and correcting bands on MA is Obituary36, under this name a band was added, but not by me but my room mate.The band I'm talking about is "Zimowy Chmura", It was only myself and I never released anything under this name, and the name written is actually wrong it's "Zimowe Chmury".I have the "Demo" in my hands at the moment and I wish to have it removed from MA becuase it is a false add.I never released a thing under that name.Any Proof required I can give, if need be.


by your room mate? yeah yeah.......

-_-

you're both morons, you for leaving your account logged on and your room mate (if he exists.) for adding a fake band

If I were you, I'd kick him in the face (or bang your own head in a wall)


I have no need to lie, I worship MA and I try to keep it updated with what I know.I've just happed to catch that when I saw all the points I had.Either way if I'm not being taken serious I'll post a picture with myself and the "demo".It's nothing but a CDr I gave him with some guitar tracks I recored on my PC.I've also removed my save password feature on all programs, the mistake won't happen again.
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ralfman
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:32 pm 
 

Hi

This band http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=13366 has nothing about discography.
This was all i could find (http://www.corpsegrinder.hpg.com.br/Pag ... _hpg7.html) , but no releases...

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:19 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=11695

It even states that nothing was recorded. Why are they here, then?

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:23 pm 
 

TheGrimWombat wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=11695

It even states that nothing was recorded. Why are they here, then?

Last modified by christkiller
On February 24th, 2007

:scratch:

Wouldn't he have noticed?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:40 pm 
 

droneriot wrote:
TheGrimWombat wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=11695

It even states that nothing was recorded. Why are they here, then?

Last modified by christkiller
On February 24th, 2007

:scratch:

Wouldn't he have noticed?


You'd think so...

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:15 am 
 

TheGrimWombat wrote:
droneriot wrote:
TheGrimWombat wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=11695

It even states that nothing was recorded. Why are they here, then?

Last modified by christkiller
On February 24th, 2007

:scratch:

Wouldn't he have noticed?


You'd think so...

What I meant is, maybe the mods know something we don't. Who knows, maybe the band is being kept for some specific reason.
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christkiller
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:27 am 
 

"The band never recorded any official demos but only a couple of rehearsal tapes that was spread in the underground"

now if you want this band nuked.....

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ralfman
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:00 am 
 

ralfman wrote:
Hi

This band http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=13366 has nothing about discography.
This was all i could find (http://www.corpsegrinder.hpg.com.br/Pag ... _hpg7.html) , but no releases...


and another http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=18279

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prezuiwf
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:55 pm 
 

So, 2-part question. Part one is, why is Thin Lizzy on the site? Is it because of their metal influence or because they are actually considered to be metal?

I'm not contesting their inclusion on the site, but if they are on here based on influence, then isn't it a stretch to include Phil Lynott's solo work on here? If they're actually metal then it's fine (as it's a side project), but basically an answer to question #1 would help solve question #2.

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Reaper43
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:18 pm 
 

To get on the site Thin Lizzy would have to have at least one release that is considered to be predominantly metal.

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prezuiwf
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:20 pm 
 

Reaper43 wrote:
To get on the site Thin Lizzy would have to have at least one release that is considered to be predominantly metal.


Not necessarily, they could have gotten in under the "influential" criteria like several other bands. But I am not a Thin Lizzy fan so I can't really speculate.

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Reaper43
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:26 pm 
 

Yes well if that is the case only the head mods would be able to make that choice, it was probably something that went through Morrigan.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:39 pm 
 

prezuiwf wrote:
So, 2-part question. Part one is, why is Thin Lizzy on the site? Is it because of their metal influence or because they are actually considered to be metal?

I'm not contesting their inclusion on the site, but if they are on here based on influence, then isn't it a stretch to include Phil Lynott's solo work on here? If they're actually metal then it's fine (as it's a side project), but basically an answer to question #1 would help solve question #2.
Their last album Thunder And Lightning is full-on Heavy Metal. The other albums post Live And Dangerous are also heavier, though more Heavy Rock.
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