I am asking only becausye you are from Germany and seem to have a source on those strange project - this one seems to be some "white power light" project, all image in order to make some cash with trendies anyway.

Is Zele really a Hard Rock band?! I heard some songs from them and i'm pretty sure it is NOT Hard Rock

Tricky... tricky indeed. I have found an entry in a right-wing forum... and a post in a Black Metal forum, where the demo is offered for trade. You simply get too much hits by searching for "The Goddess".

One thing: I listen to no NS-piece of crap. It is indeed a problem when not sharing personal attitudes and hence people are not able to categorize someone.

back to the topic:
http://www.paganforum.de/musik/497-nsbm ... ng-11.html
The Goddess - Melodic NS Black Metal

Link
THE GODDESS - Antares 7EP /Ger, Impresivní atmosférický pagan Ambient! Skrze syntezátory, akustiku a další instrumenty k melancholii a odevzdání se věčnému bádání!/
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We are getting somewhere:
the first demo:
http://www.bitenova.nl/tt/gh3tq
(uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh it is a torrent... dares someone?)

I'll download it, just need some time, my internet is slow. I'll tell you if it's metal or not.
EDIT: No seeds, won't work.

You are right.. there is no tracker... I have tried it now, too.

Perhaps someone has more success with soulseek or the like. I do not use such programs.

Thanks, for the efforts anyway. It seems that we have today some eruptions on the sun or what, since one of my countrymen demands to delete the band Kabát, because they are now one of the biggest czech rock bands and so shame for the site. He claims, that they never played thrash, because one of their songs is named Koleda, which means Christmas Carol in czech, and thrash bands cannot have funny lyrics. Of course, he is 22, so he cannot remember their beginnings. Guess of which music style is he a dedicated fan.

Too bad he did not complain here, he could find a good numerology obssessed slavonic brother here.

Here is the "Christmas" song, by the way:
http://www.kabat-fans.cz/stahnete-si/orgasmus.html


If anybody sees this moron, disregard him, please.

A suggestion:
Why don't you try to contact 'artery'. If there is someone with a lot of information on the German scene, then it will be him. He has to have all the informations of bands form somewhere... perhaps there is also somethng about 'The Goddess'. It is worth a try.
By the way... I searched for the term 'Ambient' and there are really a lot of bands here... I could not believe my eyes.

I do not think artery is a big ambient fan - neither am I. We will see what further comments will bring. According to the czech decription, it is pure atmospheric ambient.

As for the search - yes, and most of them are side projects with only a demo out. Some of them are only partially ambient, or only on some albums, but still we have hundreds of pure ambient/darkwave, electrogoth/industrial/whatever purely electronic bands here.

here is a soundfile:
http://www.sadistica.de/MP3/The_Goddess ... tares_2003).mp3

and this is not metal... just keyboards

Now we got somewhere, not metal at all and the reviews indicate, that all of her material is like that.

Deleted.

Tnanks again, i only wonder, why people even submit such bands.

Ok... what about this one:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=24098
and this one:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=23899
there was no discussion about them...
Both are Ambient bands and are no side-projects

and this one:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=53942
and this one:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=41602
and this one:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=26488
(side-project of Skrol... where is this band???)
and
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=14834
(it was before Hagalaz' Runedance)

joke band?
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=32541
the only information I find is this:
http://www.metalmusic.lv/bands.php?lang ... view&id=43

and what about this one:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=28065

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=10025

Band site was last updated in 1999. It says they recorded a CD but without vocals, so its not finished, not sure if it did get finished or released, nothing is posted after that.

Ok to make this easier, between me and oneyoudon'tknow, heres some bands that should be looked over to POSSIBLY be deleted. I think its all a matter of opinion. Open To Suggestions and opinions!

If these are acceptable bands, disregard this looooong post

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=24098 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=23899 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=53942 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=41602 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=26488 (Ambient) (stated as side-project of skrol, not in archives)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=14834 (Dark Ambient) (Possible side-project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=32541 (Black Ambient) (Possible to stay. http://www.metalmusic.lv/bands.php?lang ... view&id=43 Info)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=28065 (Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=49089 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=48047 (Dark Ambient) (Possible side-project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=52583 (Ritual Dark Ambient) (Possible side-project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=63258 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=21120 (Dark Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=40557 (Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3979 (Dark Ambient) (Possible side project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=53171 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=22385 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=53942 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=35950 (Ritualistic Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=48248 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=48493 (Dark Ambient) (Possible side project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=14415 (Dark Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=44979 (Dark Ambient) (Possible Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=59295 (Ritual Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=42554 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=26060 (Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=26871 (Dark Ambient) (Possible Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=43208 (Dark Ambient) (Possible Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=41588 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=35480 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=41752 (Dark Ambient)
(Possible Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=43053 (Dark Ambient)
(Side Project? Drudkh)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=2128 (Atmospheric and Ambient Music) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=21242 (Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=14461 (Dark Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=17895 (Electronic/Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=25074 (Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=46925 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=45903 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=55775 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=12035 (Dark Ambient) (Possible Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=26417 (Dark Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=75952 (Ritual Dark Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=19311 (Dark Ambient) (Reasonable Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=71186 (Dark Ambient) (Possible Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=38855 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=79887 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=23492 (Dark Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=39812 (Dark Ambient/Electro) (Possible Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=23162 (Orchestral Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=44746 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=25196 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=21978 (Black Ambient) (Ambient Black Metal?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=63759 (Ritual Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=25206 (Ambient/Trance)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=99873 (Dark Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=20155 (Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=42632 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=100621 (Dark Ambient) (Reasonable Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=32227 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=49894 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=36737 (Extreme Metal, Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=17860 (Dark Ambient) (Possible Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=44942 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=74491 (Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=26568 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=39806 (Dark Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=65445 (Ritual Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=23069 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=23015 (Dark Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=35991 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=96301 (Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=34979 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=9278 (Dark Ambient) (Reasonable Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=42261 (Dark Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=71408 (Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=31014 (Ritual Dark Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=13542 (Dark Ambient) (Reasonable Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=24024 (Dark Ambient) (Possible Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=56708 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=20772 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=30009 (Ambient) (Possible Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=89266 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=39330 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=78795 (Ritual Dark Ambient) (Reasonable Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=24834 (Dark Ambient/Industrial)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=41176 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=38763 (Epic Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=65259 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=30804 (Minimalistic Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=38707 (Dark Ambient) (Possible Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=28882 (Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=42494 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=24173 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=66957 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=47119 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=10435 (Ambient/Ethno) (Possible Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=39114 (Pagan Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=55291 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=80304 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=43772 (Dark Ambient) (Reasonable Side project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=77872 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=24141 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=26643 (Medieval Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=62360 (Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=62827 (Ritual Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=63744 (Dark Ritual Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=23079 (Dark Ambient) (Possible Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=83030 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=85763 (Dark Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=40330 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=23779 (Cosmic Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=21975 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=60728 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=5670 (Dark ambient experimental 'tribal' noise) (Reasonable Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=33427 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=18858 (Electronic Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=56727 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=59948 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=16743 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=24670 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=31464 (Dark Ambient, Noise)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=25244 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=54274 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=64445 (Ritual Ambient) (Possible Side project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=83086 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=65524 (Dark Ambient) (Side Project?)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=29830 (Dark Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=79411 (Ambient) (Reasonable Side Project)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=65902 (Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=54885 (Ambient)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=10025
(No Discography) (Last updated in 1999)

All i could find as far as ambient.

And now,

This band should be removed http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=79576 or at least give me 1 reason why you will keep it here

Don't bother about this band http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=14834 i already tried before you many times to know why it's kept here even all those bands Hagalaz' Runedance, Nebelhexë and Northaunt they all should be removed

perhaps it should be worth somebody's time to create an ambient archives?

Probably would solve a lot of issues regarding ambient acceptance.

nice post.. really..

I have read your post and remembered it yesterday. That is way I made the attempt.

A folk archive would also be cool... OK.. who is starting it?
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Some bands are gone... but Northaunt ist still here...why?

ATTENTION:
This band http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=62176 and this band http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=21839 are the same. Please delete the Satansso submission and just keep the Hellmace one.

Thanx

Since the Alcest thread was locked, let me inform you, that the genre will stay as it is. Some people are apparently catching up some trendy expressions, which they got from hip magaziones, without knowing much about them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoegazing

ommon musical elements in shoegazing are distortion (aka "fuzzbox"), droning riffs and a "wall of sound" from noisy guitars. Typically, two distorted rhythm guitars are played together to give an amorphous quality to the sound. Although lead guitar riffs were often present, they were not the central focus of most shoegazing songs.

There was already a discussion about the band, which some are obviously unable to read.

If you can come up with something better, you can report it, at best with reviews supporting your claim, but no shoegaze please.

OK.. those two bands are still here and have no relation to metal or whatsoever.. so why do they stay? Why is Northaut accepted and not Gustav Hildebrand, who is on the rejected list?

about the second band Trollenwoud:
I have tried, goodle, ask, yahoo and exalead, but have found no release or homepage or the like. Nothing at all, except the sites at rock-detector and simiar ones.

Both are gone now, sorry BMGirl, but his music is not metal in the slightest and it is not a side project either.

Both? really? I am still able to see the second one.
Edit: OK... now it is gone, too...

Where is the release of this band Nazazel ?
Looks like an online 4 mp3 only no physical release please remove.

I have rejected them because of that, but they got accepted by someone else.

Generally, we cannot be sure at all about iranian bands, since metal is looked upon by the goverment there, and it is quite possible that many other bands listed here do not have physical releases.

About this band Ningen-Isu where can i listen to the music they have a very large disco for a metal band who got lately accepted here

I know, but I will not tell you, because you are exagerating again a bit.

Look at the Zaarach Baal disco or what is the name of the band again and then we will speak.

Small hint, youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWF2yBe8 ... ed&search=

I nuked Nazazel : I don't see anywhere info about a demo; just crappy mp3 and a cover? pfff easy to make with Paint

Iran -_-

Example of reports done by fanboys of terrible bands, which will be completely ignored:
Hello,

I've been a fan of DevilDriver throughout their carrer, but I definitely think the genre is all wrong... metalcore is not what they were starting out, and frankly, the thought that DD had/has punk influences is a bit of a head scratcher.

My proposal is to change their genre to the following:

Nu Metal/Groove Metal with Melodic Death Metal influences (old) and Groove Metal/Melodic Death Metal with Nu Metal influences (new).

Frankly, while their new record shows them delving ever deeper into a more pure-metal sound, you can still hear the nu metal groove brought to the table by their members, and on the same note it should be acknowledged that they were influenced by melodeath on their previous two records.

thanks for your time,
--N
Genius at work isn't it??
I think i will "acknowledge" something else to that user...
Not to speak about the fact, that the band is indeed influenced by modern groovy type of hardcore.

I think the problem is that many people see the word core and immediately think Original Hardcore, not realizing that Modern Hardcore is a very different entity that carries little resemblance to it's ancestor. As well as the whole debate of whether breakdowns are actually a defining factor of core bands as they weren't significantly present in original hardcore bands, but are now a staple of the modern sound. It's a grey area and if someone wasn't well versed enough versed in the idea of the genre as a whole, past and present they could very simply make such a mistake. Although the quality of his writing leads me to believe I.Q. factors in at some point.

Double entry :
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=96633
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=4373

I can sympathize with hardcore punk fans on this subject. Don't we react the same way when people say Korn is modern metal?

How very true.

Band: Psyopus
Supposed Genre: Death/grindcore

So apparently Psyopus is in the Archives and upon actually hearing them for the first time, they honestly sound like a lot of bands which are rejected all the times from the site like Ion Dissonance and Dillinger Escape Plan. They sound like a "mathcore" band to me (aka technical hardcore band) yet they're labeled "death/grindcore?" I suppose then we might as well let in The Number Twelve Looks Like You then, right?

http://www.myspace.com/psyopus

For me personally they are miles away from death metal or any real metal genre, but apparently someone thinks otherways. I ually stay away from such kind of bands, so I cannot tell you why they were accepted or have been here for so long without someone making a serious complaint. That is a question for someone who was mod back then. But your claim has definitely some merit.

Psyopus's first album Ideas of Reference, is tech death for sure. Our Puzzling Encounters... not so much.
Overall they are like !T.O.O.H.! somewhat, or Behold... The Arctopus.

That's accurate their first album is more fluid then their second resembling tech death with the experimental aspects of grindcore. That is most likely why they are here and with the genre they have.

Sorry, but even after listening to the two songs from their debut I do not see the connection. They have the death/grind type of drumming, but lack almost any brutality or aggressive riffs. If those songs are typical, they still are pa problem band for me.
As for T.O.O.H!, even if there are similarities in the music, they are far less dissonant and more death metal based: The downtuned aggressive death metal riffs are present.

http://www.myspace.com/theobliteration

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=34412
they play neo-folk and it is no side-project

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=27880
they play avant-garde!!! Whatever this is.
http://www.myspace.com/belespritband
four tracks are available at myspace
not metal... has anyone more information on them?

Even though I´m from Denmark, I never heard of this band or read about them on Danish metal sites and so on. The samples are indeed far from metal at all. I'll try and see again if I find anything on the band. If not it should be deleted I guess.

I have also reported this one, but maybe a discussion is necessary, so I thought I'd just post it here:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=96549
Judging from the combined information of release notes, myspace page, label website... this band obviously has not released anything so far. The first full-length is to be released in the future without a date set, the "singles" are just unreleased songs for future splits or whatever, second full-length also seems to be just a finished recording for possible future release...

Yeah and the same can be said for other bands NOT in the archives like Ion Dissonance (IMO they have more metal in them than Psyopus or any other "tech metal/hardcore" band out there.) I mean like I said, even bands like The Number Twelve Looks Like You (http://www.myspace.com/tntllu) sounds very much and in vein with Psyopus yet that band isn't considered metal. I hear you Witcher but I really do believe that they should be removed from the site and I'm sure the other moderators will agree on some level with that.

If The Number Twelve... and Ion Dissonance can't be here, then why Psyopus? I"m by no means a fan boy of any of these bands by the way (I hardly know of any of their stuff but only heard a few tracks) so don't think I'm trying to get my favorite "tech hardcore" bands onto this site!!!