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BlackFlag
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:23 am 
 

Ferdaves and Tartessos:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=31651
The first one is a Black Metal project:
His demo was never released in physical format:

(taken from his page):
"It was after that summer that Ferdaves had his first two songs: DiB (Death is the Begining) and Alone Wolf, the songs hadn't any lyrics and he hadn't the Ferdaves moniker yet. The style could be placed between Falkenbach, Ulver and first Borknagar with a medieval wave because of keyboards.

After all, these two tracks hadn't quality enough to be released because they were only pre-demos of a serious project. Ferdaves (the guy) evolved with this failed demo into the recording process in a hard drive. That was the base to think that he also could record something interesting (his Tartessos project)"

The second one is labelled as Black Metal but it's ambient music:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=31650

"In year 2000 he decided to not record any guitar in his first album because he didn't had a proper equipement to record external sounds in the computer"

As it is said on this forum:
http://www.metal-forum.com/viewtopic.ph ... 9aa94cb2ee

"No sé si la musica de Tartessos podrá ver la luz en forma de CD alguna vez."
"I don't know if Tartessos music could be the light in CD format some time in the future"
So Ambient Project + Nothing released = Deletion.

I feel like shit because the guy is dead, but rules are rules.

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Catastrophic
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:35 am 
 

How did this metalcore band got accepted into the archives. The band is The Hidden

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=13260

Here's their videoclip on youtube for their song Emphathy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t1kQxqK4dw

I don't think the band deserves a place here.
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Reaper43
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:48 am 
 

Catastrophic wrote:
How did this metalcore band got accepted into the archives. The band is The Hidden

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=13260

Here's their videoclip on youtube for their song Emphathy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t1kQxqK4dw

I don't think the band deserves a place here.

http://www.myspace.com/hiddenasia

Check out their MySpace, seems like some unacceptable commercial metalcore.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:59 am 
 

BlackFlag wrote:
Ferdaves and Tartessos:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=31651
The first one is a Black Metal project:
His demo was never released in physical format:

(taken from his page):
"It was after that summer that Ferdaves had his first two songs: DiB (Death is the Begining) and Alone Wolf, the songs hadn't any lyrics and he hadn't the Ferdaves moniker yet. The style could be placed between Falkenbach, Ulver and first Borknagar with a medieval wave because of keyboards.

After all, these two tracks hadn't quality enough to be released because they were only pre-demos of a serious project. Ferdaves (the guy) evolved with this failed demo into the recording process in a hard drive. That was the base to think that he also could record something interesting (his Tartessos project)"

The second one is labelled as Black Metal but it's ambient music:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=31650

"In year 2000 he decided to not record any guitar in his first album because he didn't had a proper equipement to record external sounds in the computer"

As it is said on this forum:
http://www.metal-forum.com/viewtopic.ph ... 9aa94cb2ee

"No sé si la musica de Tartessos podrá ver la luz en forma de CD alguna vez."
"I don't know if Tartessos music could be the light in CD format some time in the future"
So Ambient Project + Nothing released = Deletion.

I feel like shit because the guy is dead, but rules are rules.

Deleted.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:04 am 
 

Reaper43 wrote:
Catastrophic wrote:
How did this metalcore band got accepted into the archives. The band is The Hidden

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=13260

Here's their videoclip on youtube for their song Emphathy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t1kQxqK4dw

I don't think the band deserves a place here.

http://www.myspace.com/hiddenasia

Check out their MySpace, seems like some unacceptable commercial metalcore.

Problematic band, the mentioned song is not metal at all, but the other combined Gothenburg melodic verses with poppy refrains.All in all, they are rather borderline, with hearable alternative leanings, too much for me. More mods opinion??

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Catastrophic
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:41 pm 
 

I believe they should be deleted. I know the boys in that band and they keep on bugging me that they're on the archives but my grindcore band is not.
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Nightgaunt
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:50 pm 
 

I've removed The Hidden (Mys).
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Catastrophic
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:58 pm 
 

Good. Now I can make fun of them :)
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:40 am 
 

I have deleted Buxx - melodic commercial hard rock, not really metal (think Aerosmith in their more commercial phase).
Edit: and Mudshark - mallcore.

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Helvede
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:46 am 
 

This band Noddegamrah,

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=12123

- Does anybody know about them? There is no discography on their MA-page, and it is mentioned on their webpage, that the recording of a demo/album is postponed. I wonder if it ever happened. If not, I'll delete their profile.

Edit: Deleted.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:36 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Klaagzang wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=98470

This band should be deleted.
The only release they did was a Harsh Noise split with Zarach 'Baal' Tharagh
(Angelus Diaboli - Harsh Noise & Zarach 'Baal' Tharagh - Raw BM)
also this was a free to download split, so real copies never existed!

there were plans to release a black metal demo, but now the band stopped
http://www.myspace.com/angelusdiaboli

quote:
"Angelus Diaboli = DEAD
We will be focussing on a NEW project
The Upcoming tape will not be released"

I have reported this band multiple times, because i really think that Harsh Noise doesn't belong on Metal-Archives.
Somehow, This band still didn't get deleted!


I will listen to it and decide later.
Do you think we are robots here, who do 24 hours long nothing else than correcting reports?!!
Learn to wait, to expect a band will be reviewed or deleted immediately when you report it, shows you belong to that people, that still do not get how the site works, that reports cannot always contain trustful info and that the moderators here do a voluntary work, not a paid job.

Witcher wrote:
Klaagzang wrote:
Witcher wrote:

I will listen to it and decide later.
Do you think we are robots here, who do 24 hours long nothing else than correcting reports?!!
Learn to wait, to expect a band will be reviewed or deleted immediately when you report it, shows you belong to that people, that still do not get how the site works, that reports cannot always contain trustful info and that the moderators here do a voluntary work, not a paid job.


It shouldn't take you four days to delete ONE page


Now you start to piss me off seriously, a band deletion needs time, since we want to avoid deletions of possibly valid bands and examine them more closely. Besides that, why do you think this band has priority before all other reported? Even if it took half a year, you would have to wait and behave, since you are not the one who is setting up the rules or making decisions here.

Edit. deleted now, if the black metal material will be released, tha under different name.

Sorry to bring this topic up again, but I just realized it, as one release on this site needs to changed!
I think you made a mistake here Witcher. The first release was BM and it was distributed. After this the noise-career started. Yet I am not able to offer any evidence for this, but I remember it; there was a track available at MySpace with information on a BM release; yet I am not able to recover the information. I remember this band as I had a discussion with a member on the board on this band and as I write a review on the split-CD with Zarach Baal Tharagh. Anyway.

edit:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=160823
Should this release be added? It is the one my topic deals with. It is a web-release my the netlabel/diy-label Smell the stench.
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Nightgaunt
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:37 am 
 

If I understand the situation correctly, then the band is still technically ineligible for the site. Net-only releases, while sometimes allowed on the pages of bands that also have physical metal releases, generally cannot serve as grounds for initial admission to the site. Even if the later non-metal material was physically distributed, it could not serve as grounds for admission either, simply by dint of not being metal.

However, I suppose this is a bit of an unusual case. If the band is going to get on, it will probably be at Morrigan/HellBlazer's behest.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:38 am 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Klaagzang wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=98470

This band should be deleted.
The only release they did was a Harsh Noise split with Zarach 'Baal' Tharagh
(Angelus Diaboli - Harsh Noise & Zarach 'Baal' Tharagh - Raw BM)
also this was a free to download split, so real copies never existed!

there were plans to release a black metal demo, but now the band stopped
http://www.myspace.com/angelusdiaboli

quote:
"Angelus Diaboli = DEAD
We will be focussing on a NEW project
The Upcoming tape will not be released"

I have reported this band multiple times, because i really think that Harsh Noise doesn't belong on Metal-Archives.
Somehow, This band still didn't get deleted!


I will listen to it and decide later.
Do you think we are robots here, who do 24 hours long nothing else than correcting reports?!!
Learn to wait, to expect a band will be reviewed or deleted immediately when you report it, shows you belong to that people, that still do not get how the site works, that reports cannot always contain trustful info and that the moderators here do a voluntary work, not a paid job.

Witcher wrote:
Klaagzang wrote:
Witcher wrote:

I will listen to it and decide later.
Do you think we are robots here, who do 24 hours long nothing else than correcting reports?!!
Learn to wait, to expect a band will be reviewed or deleted immediately when you report it, shows you belong to that people, that still do not get how the site works, that reports cannot always contain trustful info and that the moderators here do a voluntary work, not a paid job.


It shouldn't take you four days to delete ONE page


Now you start to piss me off seriously, a band deletion needs time, since we want to avoid deletions of possibly valid bands and examine them more closely. Besides that, why do you think this band has priority before all other reported? Even if it took half a year, you would have to wait and behave, since you are not the one who is setting up the rules or making decisions here.

Edit. deleted now, if the black metal material will be released, tha under different name.

Sorry to bring this topic up again, but I just realized it, as one release on this site needs to changed!
I think you made a mistake here Witcher. The first release was BM and it was distributed. After this the noise-career started. Yet I am not able to offer any evidence for this, but I remember it; there was a track available at MySpace with information on a BM release; yet I am not able to recover the information. I remember this band as I had a discussion with a member on the board on this band and as I write a review on the split-CD with Zarach Baal Tharagh. Anyway.

edit:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=160823
Should this release be added? It is the one my topic deals with. It is a web-release my the netlabel/diy-label Smell the stench.

If you will find tmore info about that mentioned bm release, you can ask about the band again.

http://www.myspace.com/angelusdiaboli
But as you can see, they have chaged their name to Grift and want to release bm material under this new name in the future.
There were songs like that on the myspace, buit there were not featured on the split release. The upcoming black metal release was obviously that tape that got scratched later.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:05 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
If you will find tmore info about that mentioned bm release, you can ask about the band again.

http://www.myspace.com/angelusdiaboli[...]

I tried this yesterday, but I found nothing... You know how it is with these obscure bands which hand out releases in a low number.

I will contact the band after the holiday season.
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pingu53
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:53 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=77863

http://www.myspace.com/xenonerus

:ugh:

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:00 am 
 

pingu53 wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=77863

http://www.myspace.com/xenonerus

:ugh:

Deleted.

Unrelated, but you will soon recognize, that trolling submissions of Varg Vikernes rap bands are not a good idea at all. :fuck:

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pingu53
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:29 pm 
 

http://www.last.fm/music/Bumzur

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:04 am 
 

pingu53 wrote:
http://www.last.fm/music/Bumzur

The question stands - why do you submit obviously joke non-metal stuff like this without physical releases?

If you were not trolling, you can talk to Evenfiel and he will decide.

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JoeCapricorn
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:10 am 
 

pingu53 wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=77863

http://www.myspace.com/xenonerus

:ugh:


Heh, dance metal.

Guitars are metal though, don't see why they were deleted... although the dancey stuff is more in the foreground. Vocals suck...
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Reaper43
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:17 am 
 

JoeCapricorn wrote:
pingu53 wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=77863

http://www.myspace.com/xenonerus

:ugh:
don't see why they were deleted...

This is why you don't handle band submissions.
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Carver
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:07 pm 
 

The band SelfDevoured doesn't have a physical release.

From their official MySpace page: You can download a session recording from june 2007 from our webside (this is he demo added on he band's page available as mp3 on their official pagem the cover is a fictif cover with the band logo and demo 2007 added by Metal On Demand)

Dead Members the demo is never released as a physical release already contacted the band many imes and hey never have a physical release yet from their official myspace: we finished recording our first "Demo"-Album "Members only". Now the recording is only only waiting for its Mastering, and will most probably be released within the next two weeks....be prepared!!!!

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:53 am 
 

Deleted Serial Asesino, too much Korn/nu-influences.

Also Silester, no physical demos out yet, when they release something, they can be resubmitted.

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:07 am 
 

Is there any particular reason for Mogoutre being here?
They definitely had no worldwide distribution...


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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:18 am 
 

molk15 wrote:
Is there a particular reason for Mogoutre being here?
They definitely had no worldwide distribution...


No, as for the other non-metal LLN projects. MMIsanthropo has told me the last time, that they could be possibly kept here by the owners for historical significance or something like that. I do not know what the owners actually think, though.
But at least the inclusion of Boreb should be questioned, for 90% an internet joke only, unrelated to that circle, not metal and the original joke is long time over.

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DGYDP
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:25 am 
 

Why was Morda (from Belgium) accepted?
I've seen these guys live at least 5 times and while they manage to entertain the crowd, they sure as hell aren't metal.

It's your average metalcore band, with thousands of breakdowns, no solos ... sounds like any other MC band to me.
Also, they label themselves "a mixture of hardcore, metalcore and more !!!!!!" While this sentence is not only incredibly moronic and makes no sense at all, it also proves that they know shit about metal or music in general.
For some reason they have "melodic death metal" as genre on the MA, and that really doesn't make sense to me.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:38 am 
 

DGYDP wrote:
Why was Morda (from Belgium) accepted?
I've seen these guys live at least 5 times and while they manage to entertain the crowd, they sure as hell aren't metal.

It's your average metalcore band, with thousands of breakdowns, no solos ... sounds like any other MC band to me.
Also, they label themselves "a mixture of hardcore, metalcore and more !!!!!!" While this sentence is not only incredibly moronic and makes no sense at all, it also proves that they know shit about metal or music in general.
For some reason they have "melodic death metal" as genre on the MA, and that really doesn't make sense to me.


Because simply, they are metal enough to be featured here. It will be best to list them just like metalcore though. Bands here are not judged by the number of breakdowns or solos, but just their general sound. They have a lot of Heaven Shall Burn and similar bands in their sound, even The Haunted.
http://www.myspace.com/mordahc
Compare it with songs from "Antigone":
http://www.myspace.com/officialheavenshallburn

We do NOT accept the following (this is our decision, please don't argue this):


* Metalcore, unless it's clearly more metal than core (e.g Shadows Fall, The Red Chord, Mastodon are OK: Avenged Sevenfold, Atreyu, Bullet For My Valentine are NOT). If you are uncertain, best avoid metalcore bands altogether.

Does this band sound to you like BFMV, emo, alternative or punk based hardcore?

And for the last time, bands will not be deleted just because of your pesonal dislike. I sincerely hope that such pseudo arguments will stop being used here.

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DGYDP
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:51 am 
 

Yes I have all of their albums ... and to me, it's clearly more core than metal.
But if you think it's more metal, then fine.

If they stay on the Archives, then at least change the genre to just metalcore :)

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Carver
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:59 am 
 

Sanhedrin released a 5-way slit this is considered a valide release or a compilation album?

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little_raven
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:07 pm 
 

haven't read the whole thread, but why is Moonn here? I mean I find the music interesting and I think they should belong here but they have no physical releases (yet)


Sry if it's a repost but i really want to know

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:17 pm 
 

little_raven wrote:
haven't read the whole thread, but why is Moonn here? I mean I find the music interesting and I think they should belong here but they have no physical releases (yet)


Sry if it's a repost but i really want to know

http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... onn#628305
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:46 pm 
 

Carver wrote:
Sanhedrin released a 5-way slit this is considered a valide release or a compilation album?


A split album cannot have more than 5 participating bands, or else it sort of falls under the "VA compilation" category...

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little_raven
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:01 pm 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
little_raven wrote:
haven't read the whole thread, but why is Moonn here? I mean I find the music interesting and I think they should belong here but they have no physical releases (yet)


Sry if it's a repost but i really want to know

http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... onn#628305


oh thank youy much sir

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DGYDP
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:32 am 
 

Probably has been posted before, but why was "Hellyeah" accepted?
Sounds like the average hard rock / nu metal band to me.
I know it's an allstar band of metal musicians, but that still doesn't make this album metal ...

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Catastrophic
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:31 am 
 

DGYDP wrote:
Probably has been posted before, but why was "Hellyeah" accepted?
Sounds like the average hard rock / nu metal band to me.
I know it's an allstar band of metal musicians, but that still doesn't make this album metal ...


Phil Anselmo's side project.
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You mean Vinnie Paul.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:34 am 
 

DGYDP wrote:
Probably has been posted before, but why was "Hellyeah" accepted?
Sounds like the average hard rock / nu metal band to me.
I know it's an allstar band of metal musicians, but that still doesn't make this album metal ...


Search for it.
By the way, you will do best, if you will avoid this thread for several weeks or even months and will use other parts of the forum to share your listening experiences.
If you do not know why, ask the regular members...

Or look how users like Reaper43 and Sitra argument here in the both stickied threads and why, under which conditions, in which ceases they ask about blacklisted or on the other hand longtime listed bands and IF THEY ASK WHEN THEY ARE SURE IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY.


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Reaper43
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:53 am 
 

Catastrophic wrote:
DGYDP wrote:
Probably has been posted before, but why was "Hellyeah" accepted?
Sounds like the average hard rock / nu metal band to me.
I know it's an allstar band of metal musicians, but that still doesn't make this album metal ...


side project.

It's not here as the side-project of anything.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:07 pm 
 

Reaper43 wrote:
Catastrophic wrote:
DGYDP wrote:
Probably has been posted before, but why was "Hellyeah" accepted?
Sounds like the average hard rock / nu metal band to me.
I know it's an allstar band of metal musicians, but that still doesn't make this album metal ...


side project.

It's not here as a side-project of anything.


Correct, one of the several discussions about the, there are also old posts in this thread:

http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... t=hellyeah

I sincerely do not understand, why "newborn", two week old users are constantly feeling the need to make demands how the manage the site.
Logical would be observe the submission and decision process for some time, perhaps make informed requests backed up by the rules and already gainded experience and finally after proving to be worthy take part in serious proposals.
I would help everybody involved and spare a lot of stress.

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DGYDP
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:49 pm 
 

Allright well I was just trying to help, you know.
I did a search for this, but since all those topics were locked I figured I could re-open the conversation in this thread.

It's a side project, but none of the members are in other bands that are metal (Mudvayne and Nothingface are not on the archives).
Sure, it has Paul and Zilla, but they shouldn't count for side project either simply because Damageplan doesn't exist any more.

For 3 out of 5 members this IS a side project, but they don't play metal in the other band + for the other 2 members this ISN'T a side project since they don't even play in another band. Following this reasoning I think somebody can perhaps shed more light as to why they were accepted. I mean, the music (to me) is nu metal. Since nu metal is not considered to be a valid metal genre on here, and since it doesn't really count as side project either ... I thought that maybe they shouldn't really be here.

If somebody could just give a reaction based on what I said, and not based on the time I've been on this site ... that'd be appreciated.

Once again, I did a search before but since the "side project" line of thinking is not waterproof (as you can see from my above explanation) ... I thought that maybe somebody should re-consider Hellyeah.
I'm not questioning the person who accepted this band on the Archives, I just figured that since other bands were removed from the MA aswell, why not Hellyeah?
I'm not so sure if it's possible to cause stress on the net, but if I did, that was not my intention.

If I overlooked something, I can accept that I am wrong, just like I accepted I was wrong before. This is not about implementing my own opinion but about improving the site.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:57 pm 
 

DGYDP wrote:
Allright well I was just trying to help, you know.
I did a search for this, but since all those topics were locked I figured I could re-open the conversation in this thread.

It's a side project, but none of the members are in other bands that are metal (Mudvayne and Nothingface are not on the archives).
Sure, it has Paul and Zilla, but they shouldn't count for side project either simply because Damageplan doesn't exist any more.

For 3 out of 5 members this IS a side project, but they don't play metal in the other band + for the other 2 members this ISN'T a side project since they don't even play in another band. Following this reasoning I think somebody can perhaps shed more light as to why they were accepted. I mean, the music (to me) is nu metal. Since nu metal is not considered to be a valid metal genre on here, and since it doesn't really count as side project either ... I thought that maybe they shouldn't really be here.

If somebody could just give a reaction based on what I said, and not based on the time I've been on this site ... that'd be appreciated.

Once again, I did a search before but since the "side project" line of thinking is not waterproof (as you can see from my above explanation) ... I thought that maybe somebody should re-consider Hellyeah.
I'm not questioning the person who accepted this band on the Archives, I just figured that since other bands were removed from the MA aswell, why not Hellyeah?
I'm not so sure if it's possible to cause stress on the net, but if I did, that was not my intention.

If I overlooked something, I can accept that I am wrong, just like I accepted I was wrong before. This is not about implementing my own opinion but about improving the site.



Read my and Reaper's post, read it at least three times and then stop it , finally. We both told, you that they are not here as a side project, but because they are considered to be metal enough. I also do not understand, how you can think such a famous band is here without a reason and argument with helping . Did you really think about an amazing discovery of totally unjustified submission or what??

And do you really think the reasons will be reapeted to each new user over and over??
You have the search function, use it in the future, please.

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