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SitraAhra
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:36 am 
 
Yes.I found it yesterday,but as I said earlier to my ears not so many bands from this page sounded Heavy Metal.N.W.O.B.H.M influenced maybe,but to say the truth as many know theres really thin line between N.W.O.B.H.M and Hard Rock,so I decided to subbmit the bands I was sure they fit in Metal-Archives.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:48 pm 
 
I have deleted Enemite - ambient without world distribution.
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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:34 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
I have deleted Enemite - ambient without world distribution.

this CD is probably sold-out
ambient with black metal spirit, great stuff
I have one copy :D with Chineesse letters..
IMO that project should stay :P
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:38 pm 
 
Piotr_Bojka wrote:
Witcher wrote:
I have deleted Enemite - ambient without world distribution.

this CD is probably sold-out
ambient with black metal spirit, great stuff
I have one copy :D with Chineesse letters..
IMO that project should stay :P


Ambient with black metal spirit - that is like pop with thrash metal spirit...
:lol:

It was released by some Chinese underground label, their homepage consists indeed mostly of info in Chinese. Some info can be added to the guy's main project page, if you wish to do it.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:29 am 
 
I have deleted Kingdom (Ger) - this album is the same as Domain's "Our Kingdom" and Domain played melodic hard rock back then - like a mix of Whitesnake, Gary Moore and Magnum. It is often mistaken for a metal album because of the cover, but Domain have started to play power metal first with Carsten Schulz on vocals.
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ralfman
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:22 pm 
 
I was browsing the net for info on this band , http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=83298 and got confused;

First it seems that the name is not correct , where is Thastment should be Chastment and then a different genre poped up , Hardcore :shock:
here some links that got me confused:
Link.

Link.

Link.

http://www.panx.net/distro/view.shtml?/distro/10768.htm

I guess i've f***ed this one up... for deletion?
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Nightgaunt
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:14 pm 
 
Chastment deleted.
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HelloCthulhu
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:38 pm 
 
Black Rose (Dnk)

No releases at all.
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Nightgaunt
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:34 am 
 
Black Rose is a special case. A band that rich in lore is not going to remain on the site simply by some mistake or oversight.
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HelloCthulhu
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:21 am 
 
Okay, I was just wondering. Which is why I brought this up in the FFA first.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:34 am 
 
HelloCthulhu wrote:
Okay, I was just wondering. Which is why I brought this up in the FFA first.

In fact, it does have a release, but the rehearsal was released under King Diamond's name. Really a special, complicated, exceptional case, hardly to repeat itself too often.
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Baletempest
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:16 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
I have deleted Enemite - ambient without world distribution.


It did have world distribution (I got it from the UK distributor, Cold Spring), check Dying Art's website for a full list.


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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:48 pm 
 
Baletempest wrote:
Witcher wrote:
I have deleted Enemite - ambient without world distribution.


It did have world distribution (I got it from the UK distributor, Cold Spring), check Dying Art's website for a full list.


Dying Art is a label, whose releases are distributed in diverse mailorders worldwide, but ithe label itself does not have worldwide distribution like Relapse, Nuclear blast, Massacre, Metal Blade, Limb and others have.
The original label must have such distribution on their own. And please, stop asking about such absolutely non-metal projects, I think I do not have to repeat the same here every second day.
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We are collaborating with mass of oversea labels in distribution of the products of Dying Art, and you can also purchase our products from our oversea trade labels. The way in purchase is depending on the rules of our partners themselves. Please see next page for details.

Released on a label with worldwide distribution - released on a label, who distributes it worldwide under its own name using its own means.

Or you want it really compare to Nuclear Blast or Earache - I think not.
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droneriot
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:31 pm 
 
I just noticed that Unholy Grave are on the Archives. Do they have any Metal release?
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Baletempest
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:32 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
Released on a label with worldwide distribution - released on a label, who distributes it worldwide under its own name using its own means.


In my defence that definition probably should be up on the main rules page (I wouldn't have bothered saying anything if it was), but my bad for not reading back a bit.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:08 pm 
 
Baletempest wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Released on a label with worldwide distribution - released on a label, who distributes it worldwide under its own name using its own means.


In my defence that definition probably should be up on the main rules page (I wouldn't have bothered saying anything if it was), but my bad for not reading back a bit.

The part about label with worldwide distribution is already there and the side projects are decided case by case, anyway.
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Mieresch
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:50 pm 
 
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=44406
Not metal, acoustic folk/ambient band with harsh vocals. Banatian darkness is an underground label, belonging to one of the band members - no global distribution. Delete it please, thank you.
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Caliginosity
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Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 5:29 pm
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:19 pm 
 
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=115551 Mei Dei

Band already in the archives under the name "Meidei"
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=75024
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Carver
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:30 pm 
 
Hello, I think this band http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=115630 is too much on the modern hardcore side the majority of the songs are too far away from being metal enough for the site. Thanks.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:36 pm 
 
Carver wrote:
Hello, I think this band http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=115630 is too much on the modern hardcore side the majority of the songs are too far away from being metal enough for the site. Thanks.

No, they are the Heaven Shall Burn, and melodeath inspired metalcore.


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Caliginosity
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:30 am 
 
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=115709 Nekropolis (Arg)
already added in the archives

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=113809 Necrópolis (Arg)

Now heres the conflict. Which one is right? Both lineups are the same, first entry (Necrópolis) has the demo listed. And the review link provided shows the spelling is correct. This leads me to believe the first entry is correct, and the newly added one is duplicate. And added by the same user :roll: :roll:

and credit to witcher for tolerating my bad findings in his acceptance :P
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:59 am 
 
I have deleted Strijdlust, no physical demo.
In the liner notes of their "demo" here:
This was NOT a demo! Not for sale

Edit:
Also Raven of Thy Bleak Skies - ambient, not metal.


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ralfman
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:32 am 
 
Hi
This band http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=16743 is not metal , just ambient and doen´t seem to have worldwide distribution...
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:44 am 
 
ralfman wrote:
Hi
This band http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=16743 is not metal , just ambient and doen´t seem to have worldwide distribution...

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~Guest 62838
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:40 pm 
 
Why is Deadstar Assembly here? They sound like a cross between Marilyn Manson and Rammstein. I like them and all, but I don't feel they're metal.
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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:40 am 
 
why now this band was added :
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=115821 ?
nothing more then last time when maczarnot (or somebody else) try to add this
Hellmut show you proof about CD/tape?
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:16 pm 
 
Piotr_Bojka wrote:
why now this band was added :
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=115821 ?
nothing more then last time when maczarnot (or somebody else) try to add this
Hellmut show you proof about CD/tape?

There is clearly written, that all presented songs are taken from "Promo 2000"

Considering the release year (pre-myspace fever) and the members involved, it is quite probable, that it was still released in physical form. Do you have a convincing proof saying otherwise???
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AurvandiL
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:40 pm 
 
Hey

There are two bands called Temnozor, although it is the same band, who simply did a one-year break. Should they be melted into one band page instead of two?
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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:23 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
Piotr_Bojka wrote:
why now this band was added :
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=115821 ?
nothing more then last time when maczarnot (or somebody else) try to add this
Hellmut show you proof about CD/tape?

There is clearly written, that all presented songs are taken from "Promo 2000"

Considering the release year (pre-myspace fever) and the members involved, it is quite probable, that it was still released in physical form. Do you have a convincing proof saying otherwise???


maybe you are right
I will try to find this Promo ....
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:29 pm 
 
AurvandiL wrote:
Hey

There are two bands called Temnozor, although it is the same band, who simply did a one-year break. Should they be melted into one band page instead of two?


How do you know? According to the pages, the bands had different locations etc.

If you have proof, then elaborate.
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AurvandiL
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:22 pm 
 
Ach, really sorry, I totally misread the notes.
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ralfman
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:24 pm 
 
Excuse me but isn't this http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=77906 the so called nu-metal/mallcore?
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:40 am 
 
ralfman wrote:
Excuse me but isn't this http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=77906 the so called nu-metal/mallcore?

Yes, pretty much - deleted.
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Muloc7253
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:35 am 
 
Witcher wrote:
ralfman wrote:
Excuse me but isn't this http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=77906 the so called nu-metal/mallcore?

Yes, pretty much - deleted.


Who was it?
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:02 am 
 
Muloc7253 wrote:
Witcher wrote:
ralfman wrote:
Excuse me but isn't this http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=77906 the so called nu-metal/mallcore?

Yes, pretty much - deleted.


Who was it?

Hollow (Aus)- influenced by Deftones, amon others.
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darkmoonman
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:41 am 
 
darkmoonman wrote:
Nightgaunt wrote:
darkmoonman wrote:
I tried to add Russian black metal band Smaga couple of days ago but as I see other bands, which were in the queue after Smaga, rejected, I think it has been rejected too. Did not receive any e-mail though.

Smaga is a new band, first official release coming in November 2007, but as I have all the information dealing with the release (I am releasing it actually!) and got also other info from the band to be added in Metal Archives, I thought it would be totally ok to add it one month (!!) before the actual release is out. Apparently it was not.

There are, still, other bands related to Smaga with info about Smaga ... Cernunn (RIP) and Vspoloh having same members, and mentioned in their details. Also links were added during the adding-process to my homepage (even if there are just the cover of the MCD), and the website of Smaga which actually has two samples from the forthcoming MCD. MySpace and new Smaga site is coming soon as well as some more info on my own page, of course. But I honestly thought those info was already enough for submission and acceptance.

You're correct in your assumption that the submission was rejected because the "official release" you've spoken of isn't out yet. Adding releases before they come out is sometimes allowed for bands that are already legitimately on the site (though I personally consider this to be one of our most flawed/problematic policies), but no band can be accepted on the basis of something that has not yet come out, regardless of all other considerations (how "metal" the band is, connection to other bands, etc.). It's a matter of prudence.

You'll have to wait until the release you've spoken of comes out, and then you may try again.

Alright. That is crystal clear, and as I am releasing the material, I know when it is out, hah.

Thanks for the fast reply.

This kind of "discussion" was held in October 2007.

Now, the band Smaga is added to Metal Archives EVEN IF the first ever release is not out yet! I am still releasing the "My Lands" EP (MCD) so I surely know what I am talking about.

If you look at the Smaga site in the Metal Archives, you see there is nothing more that what can be found on my and the Smaga's website. E.g. there are no lengths of the tracks or the actual EP/MCD anywhere. Why? Because it is only me and the band who actually knows these things. Also lyrics are missing (that is not so unusual of course), lyrical themes are missing, some information is either incorrect or details are missing, etc.

That same information was already existing in October and still I was told that the band can not be added until the first official release is out.

Rules are rules ... or not.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:48 am 
 
darkmoonman wrote:
darkmoonman wrote:
Nightgaunt wrote:
darkmoonman wrote:
I tried to add Russian black metal band Smaga couple of days ago but as I see other bands, which were in the queue after Smaga, rejected, I think it has been rejected too. Did not receive any e-mail though.

Smaga is a new band, first official release coming in November 2007, but as I have all the information dealing with the release (I am releasing it actually!) and got also other info from the band to be added in Metal Archives, I thought it would be totally ok to add it one month (!!) before the actual release is out. Apparently it was not.

There are, still, other bands related to Smaga with info about Smaga ... Cernunn (RIP) and Vspoloh having same members, and mentioned in their details. Also links were added during the adding-process to my homepage (even if there are just the cover of the MCD), and the website of Smaga which actually has two samples from the forthcoming MCD. MySpace and new Smaga site is coming soon as well as some more info on my own page, of course. But I honestly thought those info was already enough for submission and acceptance.

You're correct in your assumption that the submission was rejected because the "official release" you've spoken of isn't out yet. Adding releases before they come out is sometimes allowed for bands that are already legitimately on the site (though I personally consider this to be one of our most flawed/problematic policies), but no band can be accepted on the basis of something that has not yet come out, regardless of all other considerations (how "metal" the band is, connection to other bands, etc.). It's a matter of prudence.

You'll have to wait until the release you've spoken of comes out, and then you may try again.

Alright. That is crystal clear, and as I am releasing the material, I know when it is out, hah.

Thanks for the fast reply.

This kind of "discussion" was held in October 2007.

Now, the band Smaga is added to Metal Archives EVEN IF the first ever release is not out yet! I am still releasing the "My Lands" EP (MCD) so I surely know what I am talking about.

If you look at the Smaga site in the Metal Archives, you see there is nothing more that what can be found on my and the Smaga's website. E.g. there are no lengths of the tracks or the actual EP/MCD anywhere. Why? Because it is only me and the band who actually knows these things. Also lyrics are missing (that is not so unusual of course), lyrical themes are missing, some information is either incorrect or details are missing, etc.

That same information was already existing in October and still I was told that the band can not be added until the first official release is out.

Rules are rules ... or not.


http://www.darkmoonzine.net/dmp.html
MCD is released in January 2008, and is available directly from the Dark Moon Productions headquarters.
Mailorders and distributors which will have the MCD for sale will be announced later…

Labels, mailorders, etc.; Ask for very fair wholesale-prices. Also trades possible!

Because that appeared on the official label website.
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darkmoonman
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:55 am 
 
Witcher wrote:
darkmoonman wrote:
darkmoonman wrote:
Nightgaunt wrote:
darkmoonman wrote:
I tried to add Russian black metal band Smaga couple of days ago but as I see other bands, which were in the queue after Smaga, rejected, I think it has been rejected too. Did not receive any e-mail though.

Smaga is a new band, first official release coming in November 2007, but as I have all the information dealing with the release (I am releasing it actually!) and got also other info from the band to be added in Metal Archives, I thought it would be totally ok to add it one month (!!) before the actual release is out. Apparently it was not.

There are, still, other bands related to Smaga with info about Smaga ... Cernunn (RIP) and Vspoloh having same members, and mentioned in their details. Also links were added during the adding-process to my homepage (even if there are just the cover of the MCD), and the website of Smaga which actually has two samples from the forthcoming MCD. MySpace and new Smaga site is coming soon as well as some more info on my own page, of course. But I honestly thought those info was already enough for submission and acceptance.

You're correct in your assumption that the submission was rejected because the "official release" you've spoken of isn't out yet. Adding releases before they come out is sometimes allowed for bands that are already legitimately on the site (though I personally consider this to be one of our most flawed/problematic policies), but no band can be accepted on the basis of something that has not yet come out, regardless of all other considerations (how "metal" the band is, connection to other bands, etc.). It's a matter of prudence.

You'll have to wait until the release you've spoken of comes out, and then you may try again.

Alright. That is crystal clear, and as I am releasing the material, I know when it is out, hah.

Thanks for the fast reply.

This kind of "discussion" was held in October 2007.

Now, the band Smaga is added to Metal Archives EVEN IF the first ever release is not out yet! I am still releasing the "My Lands" EP (MCD) so I surely know what I am talking about.

If you look at the Smaga site in the Metal Archives, you see there is nothing more that what can be found on my and the Smaga's website. E.g. there are no lengths of the tracks or the actual EP/MCD anywhere. Why? Because it is only me and the band who actually knows these things. Also lyrics are missing (that is not so unusual of course), lyrical themes are missing, some information is either incorrect or details are missing, etc.

That same information was already existing in October and still I was told that the band can not be added until the first official release is out.

Rules are rules ... or not.


http://www.darkmoonzine.net/dmp.html
MCD is released in January 2008, and is available directly from the Dark Moon Productions headquarters.
Mailorders and distributors which will have the MCD for sale will be announced later…

Labels, mailorders, etc.; Ask for very fair wholesale-prices. Also trades possible!

Because that appeared on the official label website.


So? I wrote that text to my own website today. I had info about the release already 6 months ago there, not all the info as I did not want to reveal them but anyway. If something is coming, and no release is made before, the band was not supposed to accepted.

The MCD is NOT out yet! And as said before, the reason for rejection when I tried to add Smaga was simply the lack of releases ....


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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:58 am 
 
darkmoonman wrote:
Witcher wrote:
darkmoonman wrote:
darkmoonman wrote:
Nightgaunt wrote:
darkmoonman wrote:
I tried to add Russian black metal band Smaga couple of days ago but as I see other bands, which were in the queue after Smaga, rejected, I think it has been rejected too. Did not receive any e-mail though.

Smaga is a new band, first official release coming in November 2007, but as I have all the information dealing with the release (I am releasing it actually!) and got also other info from the band to be added in Metal Archives, I thought it would be totally ok to add it one month (!!) before the actual release is out. Apparently it was not.

There are, still, other bands related to Smaga with info about Smaga ... Cernunn (RIP) and Vspoloh having same members, and mentioned in their details. Also links were added during the adding-process to my homepage (even if there are just the cover of the MCD), and the website of Smaga which actually has two samples from the forthcoming MCD. MySpace and new Smaga site is coming soon as well as some more info on my own page, of course. But I honestly thought those info was already enough for submission and acceptance.

You're correct in your assumption that the submission was rejected because the "official release" you've spoken of isn't out yet. Adding releases before they come out is sometimes allowed for bands that are already legitimately on the site (though I personally consider this to be one of our most flawed/problematic policies), but no band can be accepted on the basis of something that has not yet come out, regardless of all other considerations (how "metal" the band is, connection to other bands, etc.). It's a matter of prudence.

You'll have to wait until the release you've spoken of comes out, and then you may try again.

Alright. That is crystal clear, and as I am releasing the material, I know when it is out, hah.

Thanks for the fast reply.

This kind of "discussion" was held in October 2007.

Now, the band Smaga is added to Metal Archives EVEN IF the first ever release is not out yet! I am still releasing the "My Lands" EP (MCD) so I surely know what I am talking about.

If you look at the Smaga site in the Metal Archives, you see there is nothing more that what can be found on my and the Smaga's website. E.g. there are no lengths of the tracks or the actual EP/MCD anywhere. Why? Because it is only me and the band who actually knows these things. Also lyrics are missing (that is not so unusual of course), lyrical themes are missing, some information is either incorrect or details are missing, etc.

That same information was already existing in October and still I was told that the band can not be added until the first official release is out.

Rules are rules ... or not.


http://www.darkmoonzine.net/dmp.html
MCD is released in January 2008, and is available directly from the Dark Moon Productions headquarters.
Mailorders and distributors which will have the MCD for sale will be announced later…

Labels, mailorders, etc.; Ask for very fair wholesale-prices. Also trades possible!

Because that appeared on the official label website.


So? I wrote that text to my own website today. I had info about the release already 6 months ago there.

The MCD is NOT out yet! And as said before, the reason for rejection when I tried to add Smaha was simply the lack of release ....

Very well, deleted and will not be reaccepted, unless you show me this, or the release will appear in other established distros. Satisfied now???

http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... hp?t=32679
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:59 am 
 
Witcher wrote:
darkmoonman wrote:
Witcher wrote:
darkmoonman wrote:
darkmoonman wrote:
Nightgaunt wrote:
darkmoonman wrote:
I tried to add Russian black metal band Smaga couple of days ago but as I see other bands, which were in the queue after Smaga, rejected, I think it has been rejected too. Did not receive any e-mail though.

Smaga is a new band, first official release coming in November 2007, but as I have all the information dealing with the release (I am releasing it actually!) and got also other info from the band to be added in Metal Archives, I thought it would be totally ok to add it one month (!!) before the actual release is out. Apparently it was not.

There are, still, other bands related to Smaga with info about Smaga ... Cernunn (RIP) and Vspoloh having same members, and mentioned in their details. Also links were added during the adding-process to my homepage (even if there are just the cover of the MCD), and the website of Smaga which actually has two samples from the forthcoming MCD. MySpace and new Smaga site is coming soon as well as some more info on my own page, of course. But I honestly thought those info was already enough for submission and acceptance.

You're correct in your assumption that the submission was rejected because the "official release" you've spoken of isn't out yet. Adding releases before they come out is sometimes allowed for bands that are already legitimately on the site (though I personally consider this to be one of our most flawed/problematic policies), but no band can be accepted on the basis of something that has not yet come out, regardless of all other considerations (how "metal" the band is, connection to other bands, etc.). It's a matter of prudence.

You'll have to wait until the release you've spoken of comes out, and then you may try again.

Alright. That is crystal clear, and as I am releasing the material, I know when it is out, hah.

Thanks for the fast reply.

This kind of "discussion" was held in October 2007.

Now, the band Smaga is added to Metal Archives EVEN IF the first ever release is not out yet! I am still releasing the "My Lands" EP (MCD) so I surely know what I am talking about.

If you look at the Smaga site in the Metal Archives, you see there is nothing more that what can be found on my and the Smaga's website. E.g. there are no lengths of the tracks or the actual EP/MCD anywhere. Why? Because it is only me and the band who actually knows these things. Also lyrics are missing (that is not so unusual of course), lyrical themes are missing, some information is either incorrect or details are missing, etc.

That same information was already existing in October and still I was told that the band can not be added until the first official release is out.

Rules are rules ... or not.


http://www.darkmoonzine.net/dmp.html
MCD is released in January 2008, and is available directly from the Dark Moon Productions headquarters.
Mailorders and distributors which will have the MCD for sale will be announced later…

Labels, mailorders, etc.; Ask for very fair wholesale-prices. Also trades possible!

Because that appeared on the official label website.


So? I wrote that text to my own website today. I had info about the release already 6 months ago there.

The MCD is NOT out yet! And as said before, the reason for rejection when I tried to add Smaha was simply the lack of release ....

Very well, deleted and will not be reaccepted, unless you show me this, or the release will appear in other established distros. Satisfied now???

http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... hp?t=32679


Alright. Thanks!

Tommi "darkmoonman" Hakonen
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