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Corimngul
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:14 am 
 
lord_ghengis wrote:
ifritnuts wrote:
I'm sorry if it has been mentioned on one of the many previous pages, but how is It Dies Today still on this site? I understand their demo material was decent metalcore, but come on! Hasn't anyone noticed the emocore crap they've been releasing?


Bands don't come and go depending on the metalness of each release. Opeth wasn't removed from the site after Damnation and re-added after Ghost Reveries. If the demo is metal, then they're on the site.


To be honest that's not entirely true. When accepting bands we do look at how much metal they've released. If it just is a demo out of say five non-metal full-lengths it probably won't do. There's no defined limit though, we go case by case.

I'm not familiar with the band in question, but from the reviews it only seems to be slightly detached from metal at the point of 'The Caitiff Choir' and then losing it completely at 'Sirens', thus having both a demo and an EP of the right stuff. If so then they probably should be allowed - especially if the first album is deemed acceptable. Of course, reviews aren't the most trustworthy source. If you upload/provide links for their discography then it can be discussed again - unless a moderator has already taken the time/pain to inspect the band more closely.
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Witcher
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Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:27 am
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Location: Czech Republic
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:16 am 
 
Corimngul wrote:
lord_ghengis wrote:
ifritnuts wrote:
I'm sorry if it has been mentioned on one of the many previous pages, but how is It Dies Today still on this site? I understand their demo material was decent metalcore, but come on! Hasn't anyone noticed the emocore crap they've been releasing?


Bands don't come and go depending on the metalness of each release. Opeth wasn't removed from the site after Damnation and re-added after Ghost Reveries. If the demo is metal, then they're on the site.


To be honest that's not entirely true. When accepting bands we do look at how much metal they've released. If it just is a demo out of say five non-metal full-lengths it probably won't do. There's no defined limit though, we go case by case.

I'm not familiar with the band in question, but from the reviews it only seems to be slightly detached from metal at the point of 'The Caitiff Choir' and then losing it completely at 'Sirens', thus having both a demo and an EP of the right stuff. If so then they probably should be allowed - especially if the first album is deemed acceptable. Of course, reviews aren't the most trustworthy source. If you upload/provide links for their discography then it can be discussed again - unless a moderator has already taken the time/pain to inspect the band more closely.

The first e.p. was certainly melodeath based enough, I have heard songs from it at soundclick some time ago.
That alone would be enough.

To remove bands,which have actually whole metal release because of their later material would not only be strange, but a way to hell.
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Corimngul
Freddled Gruntbuggly

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Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:28 am 
 
Witcher wrote:
Corimngul wrote:
lord_ghengis wrote:
ifritnuts wrote:
I'm sorry if it has been mentioned on one of the many previous pages, but how is It Dies Today still on this site? I understand their demo material was decent metalcore, but come on! Hasn't anyone noticed the emocore crap they've been releasing?


Bands don't come and go depending on the metalness of each release. Opeth wasn't removed from the site after Damnation and re-added after Ghost Reveries. If the demo is metal, then they're on the site.


To be honest that's not entirely true. When accepting bands we do look at how much metal they've released. If it just is a demo out of say five non-metal full-lengths it probably won't do. There's no defined limit though, we go case by case.

I'm not familiar with the band in question, but from the reviews it only seems to be slightly detached from metal at the point of 'The Caitiff Choir' and then losing it completely at 'Sirens', thus having both a demo and an EP of the right stuff. If so then they probably should be allowed - especially if the first album is deemed acceptable. Of course, reviews aren't the most trustworthy source. If you upload/provide links for their discography then it can be discussed again - unless a moderator has already taken the time/pain to inspect the band more closely.

The first e.p. was certainly melodeath based enough, I have heard songs from it at soundclick some time ago.
That alone would be enough.

To remove bands,which have actually whole metal release because of their later material would not only be strange, but a way to hell.


Good enough for me.

I'm not so sure it would be so strange though. If we can reject a band that released one metal single and three hardrock albums, why shouldn't we delete a band that was originally accepted absed on that single and later released the albums? Obviously this will have to happen at a case-by-case basis and only when appropriate. Then again it doesn't exactly happen that often - better to take the discussion when it does.
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Witcher
Metal freak

Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:27 am
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Location: Czech Republic
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:34 am 
 
Corimngul wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Corimngul wrote:
lord_ghengis wrote:
ifritnuts wrote:
I'm sorry if it has been mentioned on one of the many previous pages, but how is It Dies Today still on this site? I understand their demo material was decent metalcore, but come on! Hasn't anyone noticed the emocore crap they've been releasing?


Bands don't come and go depending on the metalness of each release. Opeth wasn't removed from the site after Damnation and re-added after Ghost Reveries. If the demo is metal, then they're on the site.


To be honest that's not entirely true. When accepting bands we do look at how much metal they've released. If it just is a demo out of say five non-metal full-lengths it probably won't do. There's no defined limit though, we go case by case.

I'm not familiar with the band in question, but from the reviews it only seems to be slightly detached from metal at the point of 'The Caitiff Choir' and then losing it completely at 'Sirens', thus having both a demo and an EP of the right stuff. If so then they probably should be allowed - especially if the first album is deemed acceptable. Of course, reviews aren't the most trustworthy source. If you upload/provide links for their discography then it can be discussed again - unless a moderator has already taken the time/pain to inspect the band more closely.

The first e.p. was certainly melodeath based enough, I have heard songs from it at soundclick some time ago.
That alone would be enough.

To remove bands,which have actually whole metal release because of their later material would not only be strange, but a way to hell.


Good enough for me.

I'm not so sure it would be so strange though. If we can reject a band that released one metal single and three hardrock albums, why shouldn't we delete a band that was originally accepted absed on that single and later released the albums? Obviously this will have to happen at a case-by-case basis and only when appropriate. Then again it doesn't exactly happen that often - better to take the discussion when it does.

It should not happen in case of e.p. or a demo with more than two songs.

Remember also, that some nwobhm bands have released only a single. So why to delete bands, whose contribution to metal was the same kind of physical release?
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ifritnuts
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:08 pm
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 5:32 pm 
 
Ok, fair enough.
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Scourge441
Metalhead

Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:38 am
Posts: 864
Location: United States
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 8:47 pm 
 
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=65664

A release is mentioned in the additional notes, but is not listed. Status says Changed Name, but no link is given to the new band's page.

The review at the bottom seems to imply that the release is real, however. I can't read German, so I don't know what it says.

Is it delete-worthy? Does someone have more info?
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MMisantropo
Magnificient Degluter of Yummy Ants

Joined: Thu Aug 22, 2002 10:52 pm
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Location: Brazil
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:40 pm 
 
The band has a proven release, that's all we need.
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SitraAhra
Metal newbie

Joined: Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:46 am
Posts: 268
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:22 am 
 
Recently Accepted NO REMORSE acctualy allready in Archives under name RAVEN PAYNE.Its the same band/album.
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SitraAhra
Metal newbie

Joined: Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:46 am
Posts: 268
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:43 am 
 
Then Again.ARTIC FOXX is pure AOR/Hard Rock band.have no idea why they're accepted...

http://www.aor-fm.com/bands/486_artic_foxx.aspx

Is't this band for sure sounds pure HARD ROCK not METAL.Some riffs here,and there,but overal record isn't METAL at all!!!

"New Jersey" sounds heavier than this one.Yes.Im angry,because these bands sounds no heavier than STARBREAKER(I worship this band) but this one is't on Archives,but another get accepted with the same sound.

band waiting in queqe : AFTERMATH

http://members.aol.com/mtldreams/aftermath.html

And I must say a few words about DOUBLE standarts.Since in early years some bands were aded on rejected list,but another ones don't.And now we have siutuation when the ones with the same sound get's accepted as MELODIC HM/HR,while another ones(imprisioned on Rejected List) have no chanses.


For example AIRLESS or EDEN LOST can be categorized as Melodic Metal/Hard Rock,and lots of similar bands.But I never tryed to subbmit after STARBREAKER case.That sucks.
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GraveWish
Metalhead

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:55 am 
 
Do you follow websites classifications :smile:? Try to listen to the cd on cdbaby
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Witcher
Metal freak

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Location: Czech Republic
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:59 am 
 
GraveWish wrote:
Do you follow websites classifications :smile:? Try to listen to the cd on cdbaby

Indeed, bith are metal enough.
Sithra Athra, you start to get annoying with Starbreaker. You were already told the site owner's opinion on them. You can disagree, but that is the only thing you can do about it now.


Ailess are too borderline, judging from two songs.
Eden Lost are mostly o.k., as their influences show, metal/hard rock mix, half to half.
Nobody hinders you to submit such bands, but nobody can gurantee you the acceptance.
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SitraAhra
Metal newbie

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:11 am 
 
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Sithra Athra, you start to get annoying with Starbreaker. You were already told the site owner's opinion on them. You can disagree, but that is the only thing you can do about it now.


I clearly understand sutation,but as said in earlier replay in early days some bands were Added to Rejected list while another(less known,but SAME SOUNDING bands) stayed unnoticed.So what we can do now? As I said it's double standarts.Anyway I hope that new STARBREAKER 2008 CD will be Heavy enough to get them in M-A.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:15 am 
 
SitraAhra wrote:
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Sithra Athra, you start to get annoying with Starbreaker. You were already told the site owner's opinion on them. You can disagree, but that is the only thing you can do about it now.


I clearly understand sutation,but as said in earlier replay in early days some bands were Added to Rejected list while another(less known,but SAME SOUNDING bands) stayed unnoticed.So what we can do now? As I said it's double standarts.Anyway I hope that new STARBREAKER 2008 CD will be Heavy enough to get them in M-A.

I hope too, unfortunately, you got an opinion of the owner on the first album, which is what decides in borderline cases.
As I said, Eden Lost are o.k., except for You Make Me Feel- i hope such Bon Jovi style songs are in minority on the album?
As for Airless, the second album seems to be heavier, but I would need more songs.
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Mieresch
Metalhead

Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:46 pm
Posts: 681
Location: Romania
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:15 pm 
 
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=28344
Don't really think this has global distribution.
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Witcher
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Location: Czech Republic
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:12 am 
 
dust666 wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=28344
Don't really think this has global distribution.

Gone.
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PiotrB
Metalhead

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Posts: 1963
Location: Poland
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:55 am 
 
Moëvöt :
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=9278
Independent Dark Ambient...
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Witcher
Metal freak

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Location: Czech Republic
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:56 am 
 
Piotr_Bojka wrote:
Moëvöt :
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=9278
Independent Dark Ambient...

LLN band, we decided we will leave them aside, at least for now.
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AurvandiL
Metalhead

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:22 am
Posts: 559
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:40 am 
 
Yet you have deleted Aakon Ketreh?

I am far from being a fan of all this pseudo underground mess, but one must stay coherent.
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Witcher
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Location: Czech Republic
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:43 am 
 
AurvandiL wrote:
Yet you have deleted Aakon Ketreh?

I am far from being a fan of all this pseudo underground mess, but one must stay coherent.


http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=14415
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AurvandiL
Metalhead

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:45 am 
 
Hem.
Hem.


Thought it had been deleted.
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Witcher
Metal freak

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Location: Czech Republic
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:50 am 
 
Spawned into Death, no physical releases, deleted.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:47 pm 
 
i have deleted Steel Hammer, the demo is not out yet.
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xiaowang
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:46 am
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:59 am 
 
Bodies Lay Broken:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=2581
Why is this band here? Pure grindcore, not a side project of a metal band.
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oneyoudontknow
Cum insantientibus furere necesse est.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:25 pm 
 
I have just seen at the label of Eternal Penumbra:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=127063

http://www.eggofnihilism.com/releases.htm
ENP003 - Eterna Penumbra " Ceniza Y Polvo" demo tape

Release date: 06.2008

More info comming soon!!
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Witcher
Metal freak

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:56 am 
 
Reports for Haunt


May 10th, 2008
Posted at 15:57

PLEASE DELETE THIS PAGE! I AM SLEAZE!!!!! SOLE MEMEBR OF THIS BAND!!!!! THIS WAS NEVER REALLY A BAND< AND I AM NOT SURE HOW THIS GOT HERE!!!!


I WAS ALSO IN INVICTUS!

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Deleted, two of the demo are listed as not released on the page, so he is most probably right.
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Doomsday
Metalhead

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Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:49 am 
 
As far as I am concerned the German Revelation never existed by the simple reason that the demos listed on their page are the same ones that are on the American Revelation's page. Also compare band members. The same names on both pages.

Here's the American Revelation's discography on their website:
http://www.revelation-usa.net/discography.html

And it says this on the German Revelation's page:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=77342
"Released their demos "Face Reality" and "Terminal Destiny" sometime before their third demo."

And that third demo is called "demo '87" but has the exact same tracklisting as the Revelation (US) demo "Terminal Destiny".

Made a report earlier but nothing happened. Perhaps in my hurry I didn't offer enough proof. Either way, Revelation (Ger) ought to go.
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Fanfarigoule
Veteran

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Location: France
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:17 am 
 
I've deleted Wicked Garden, heavy metal band from Germany, no releases.
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GraveWish
Metalhead

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Posts: 1472
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:06 pm 
 
Hello, I think the page of S.O.S. (Hun) should be deleted since the band already exist under Save Our Souls name and as you can see S.O.S. is a reduced name for Save Our Souls then why a second page?
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Fulgurius
Metalhead

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Posts: 1066
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:18 pm 
 
Zodiacalius Pathologoanatomos
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=48585
Reviews:
http://www.realmusic.ru/zodiacaliuspath ... omos/info/
and samples:
http://www.realmusic.ru/zodiacaliuspathologoanatomos/
metal??

MH LMTH
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=55517
drone/ambient, no worldwide distribution

EDIT: Acoustic Black Metal?? :
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=48586
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=28528
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=27723
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Mieresch
Metalhead

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Location: Romania
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:29 am 
 
Fulgurius wrote:
Zodiacalius Pathologoanatomos
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=48585
Reviews:
http://www.realmusic.ru/zodiacaliuspath ... omos/info/
and samples:
http://www.realmusic.ru/zodiacaliuspathologoanatomos/
metal??

MH LMTH
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=55517
drone/ambient, no worldwide distribution

EDIT: Acoustic Black Metal?? :
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=48586
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=28528
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=27723

The last band in the acoustic black metal list is surely not metal, look at what the additional notes say on their page: Stormhammer is a mostly acoustic based black metal (in spirit) project of the sole member of Hills of Sefiroth. After the release of the upcoming demo, Stormhammer will be laid to rest. That would mean that the band was not metal, only acoustic folk with a "black metal spirit"....
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Fulgurius
Metalhead

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:53 am 
 
I have found review of Cromlech (Rus) in Russian:
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:xz ... =firefox-a
It describes the music as "acoustic black-wave", the only instruments used are acoustic bass and drums, and only vocals are in black metal style.
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SitraAhra
Metal newbie

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:27 am 
 
I do not know why LABYRINTH (US) were accepted.I contacted this band months ago and former member said that they never ever released any Demo tape.I can post here old letter from MySpace.Guy who subbmited this band just copied songs from MySpace by year and posted it as "Demos".

Quote:

RE: Labyrinth Records

Body:
Hey Jonas from Lithuania! Thanks for checking out the "Labyrinth" page....... No.... we did not have a finished
Album or CD..........Many times I have thought about re-recording the tunes for the sake of getting a much better quality
product...... but the likeliness of it being the same players
would be a challenge.... but not impossible...... especially the Labyrinth-89 lineup... which didn't even get into the studio(which is why all I have posted are live tracks)...... I am the songwriter of the music..... so re-recording it .. is not out of the question....... and I do have some more Heavy music I could throw in the mix....
so keep checking back from time to time...... I will try to
get a complete re-issue of the demo together.... and /or re-record a new release of the music altogether..... so for now.
... the Metal-Archives will have to wait a bit......
I appreciate the feedback.... and interest in the music...
Thanks for listening,

Jimmy


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Jonas
Date: May 6, 2008 5:55 AM


Hello guys. Jonas from Lithuania here. It was great to discover your band. VERY IMPRESSIVE songs. I just have a few questions for you. Do LABYRINTH released some records(Demos or something on vinyl back in early years). I ask this because I would like to subbmit your band to www. Metal-Archives. com database(Your band still missing there) and need this info. Can you write tracklist of your demo? Also cover artwork to see would be awesome. Thanks

Best regards

Jonas


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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:36 am 
 
SitraAhra wrote:
I do not know why LABYRINTH (US) were accepted.I contacted this band months ago and former member said that they never ever released any Demo tape.I can post here old letter from MySpace.Guy who subbmited this band just copied songs from MySpace by year and posted it as "Demos".

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:50 am 
 
I have deleted Epoha L'da, Paluster Rex and Mensch-Schmerz Interaction - all ambient or industrial with no world distro.
Edit: also Unholy Cross.
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immortalshadow666
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:21 am 
 
Double entry

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=127703

Already submitted by Gravewish a few minutes ago
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SitraAhra
Metal newbie

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:24 am 
 
Yeah :D I subbmited this one EARLIER (A few seconds /half Minute :P ) :D :D
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SitraAhra
Metal newbie

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:31 am 
 
Hey!!!!!! Why do you deleted band I subbmited FIRST ?????
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BlackFlag
Metal newbie

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Posts: 374
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:12 am 
 
SitraAhra wrote:
Hey!!!!!! Why do you deleted band I subbmited FIRST ?????


Oh, hell, not another drama...
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SitraAhra
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:22 am 
 
Quote:
Oh, hell, not another drama...


There's no drama at all :D .Just next time,see who subbmited band first to avoid such misunderstandings,because here's not my mistake,but Mod's fault ;)
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:39 am 
 
SitraAhra wrote:
Quote:
Oh, hell, not another drama...


There's no drama at all :D .Just next time,see who subbmited band first to avoid such misunderstandings,because here's not my mistake,but Mod's fault ;)


Gravewish one was accepted earlier.
First, you two should flag the band in this case. Second, do not make a big deal out of it. You both submitted the band shortly after each other with similar info, so no big reason to complain.
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