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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:56 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
TheGrimWombat wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=129165

Why is Voetsek here again? I submitted it over a year ago, it was accepted and then recently it was deleted from the archives by Witcher.

What changed your minds about this band once again? I don't understand.

The new album is crossover thrash.

But it's not released yet. If it is this new album which renders the band acceptable then the band should be submitted on the release date of the said album.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:11 am 
 

molk15 wrote:
Witcher wrote:
TheGrimWombat wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=129165

Why is Voetsek here again? I submitted it over a year ago, it was accepted and then recently it was deleted from the archives by Witcher.

What changed your minds about this band once again? I don't understand.

The new album is crossover thrash.

But it's not released yet. If it is this new album which renders the band acceptable then the band should be submitted on the release date of the said album.

They have other valid physical releases and there are no written rule demanding that. The album will be released soon and they are not a myspace CD-r band.

In case of Devildriver, we did not wait too, in order to avoid possible piontless discussions.

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White_Witch
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:55 am 
 

Also, what about Abortium? http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=73837 a band that has a demo release only that was limited to 25 copies, and the band is no longer. There was a show planned and not sure if it went through or not. Is that really a physical release? IMO a release should have 100 copies minimum. There is also no mp3s or myspace (invalid friend ID) for those unable to get one of the 25 copies. Ha, 25 copies! It's more like they gave them to their best mates. I'm not sure they should be here. It's pretty pointless to every single user here.

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BlackFlag
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 8:56 am 
 

White_Witch wrote:
Also, what about Abortium? http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=73837 a band that has a demo release only that was limited to 25 copies, and the band is no longer. There was a show planned and not sure if it went through or not. Is that really a physical release? IMO a release should have 100 copies minimum. There is also no mp3s or myspace (invalid friend ID) for those unable to get one of the 25 copies. Ha, 25 copies! It's more like they gave them to their best mates. I'm not sure they should be here. It's pretty pointless to every single user here.


We don't use to accept bands that claim that only 2 or 5 copies exist, but 25 copies are enough. There are NSBM bands that release demos limited to 14 copies.

By the way, IMHO, there should be a minimum of copies of the first release to accept a band, but no specific rule exist right now.

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mrchris
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:41 pm 
 

May I ask why Venomous Concept is here? It says they are hardcore punk.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:00 pm 
 

Side project.

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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:18 pm 
 

I have a question about Nachzehrer (Ger) (http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=125499). They have changed name to Thodtgehoelz, their old myspace page was deleted, and new myspace has info about the demo, which is the same demo that is added to Nachzehrer (Ger) page with the same tracklist, but with different cover-art with new logo. So, should the page of Nachzehrer (Ger) be renamed to Thodtgehoelz?
http://www.myspace.com/thodtgehoelz

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DaveJ84
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:21 am 
 

Added SPLEEN: thanks..good!
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=129631

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:


They partecipated on the "Electric Minstrels" Compilation with the track: "Inside your blindness"

the song is this (ripped from the original cd):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AI5AZ11C

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:08 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=129641
are already in the MA
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=63165
(see logo)
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SitraAhra
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:26 am 
 

Heh Spelling mistake on review page :)

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SitraAhra
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:24 am 
 

Prelude 2 Infinity Band is HEAVY METAL band ? Maybe Moderators just kidding (Or drink too much beer yesterday ;) ) :D

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:26 am 
 

Nuke Volchiy Istochnik http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=129675

Already added as Wolf's Source http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=70500
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:22 am 
 

SitraAhra wrote:
Prelude 2 Infinity Band is HEAVY METAL band ? Maybe Moderators just kidding (Or drink too much beer yesterday ;) ) :D

There are regular metal songs combined with those pseudo operatic interlude songs.

Besides that, will you please present your questions in less provocative manner in the future?

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SitraAhra
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:41 am 
 

Quote:
Besides that, will you please present your questions in less provocative manner in the future?


No.Its just an IRONY.Why do ya take it so much serious?There's allmost every man pretend to by so clever and such.Im not one of these.But to say the truth that band sounds DUMBASS even it have Heavy Moments :)

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:46 am 
 

SitraAhra wrote:
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Besides that, will you please present your questions in less provocative manner in the future?


No.Its just an IRONY.Why do ya take it so much serious?There's allmost every man pretend to by so clever and such.Im not one of these.But to say the truth that band sounds DUMBASS even it have Heavy Moments :)

It is a project of Damien Storm type - (un)willingly self-parodic.

For the other thing, I would not take it so serious, especially when it would be a single isolated post, but when almost every of your post in this thread is in such a tone, it gets on my nerves pretty quickly, whatever your reasons for it are.

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SitraAhra
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:58 am 
 

Maybe its becaue I and you(as well as other Moods) have different Wiev on Heavy Metal Music.M-A is excellent source of H-M,but theres a lot of people who have another opinion,and they're no kids.They grow with heavy Music.Its just one of the ways to show how cool I'm.I can show how TOM aca Sodomatic_Slaughter did big job but he was banned and created new account.Do ya think its fair? And nobody care about it? I know a lot of people who would like to create ATLERNATIVE website(Not kiddie spirit Of Metal) and I think that M-A should look a bit deeper and with competence towards Metal Music.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:10 am 
 

SitraAhra wrote:
Maybe its becaue I and you(as well as other Moods) have different Wiev on Heavy Metal Music.M-A is excellent source of H-M,but theres a lot of people who have another opinion,and they're no kids.They grow with heavy Music.Its just one of the ways to show how cool I'm.I can show how TOM aca Sodomatic_Slaughter did big job but he was banned and created new account.Do ya think its fair? And nobody care about it? I know a lot of people who would like to create ATLERNATIVE website(Not kiddie spirit Of Metal) and I think that M-A should look a bit deeper and with competence towards Metal Music.

You have read somewhere, that banned members cannot make another account, under no circumstances?
He was banned for review plagiarism - so that was fair, as it was proven beyond a doubt, but there was no reason to disallow him band submissions under new name, since otherwise he contributed a lot, many valid and rare bands, and was still willing to contribute even after that.

So I was actually right, you see this thread as another way to show off or for self presentation, therefore the tone of your posts. That shows quite deep misunderstanding of the purpose of the site. If you want to make your knowledge useful, do it in your submissions, they give you the credit, not silly pseudo-tough guy talk or nonsensical self-presentation.

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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:05 pm 
 

Rubicon
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=62656
looks like MySpace band only wivh mp3's

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:46 pm 
 

Piotr_Bojka wrote:
Rubicon
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=62656
looks like MySpace band only wivh mp3's

from their page:
Rvbikon ceased to be an active band in March of 2007. Its legacy is nine recorded songs over two demos.
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Someone should contact them.
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and you did not noticed that they split-up?
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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:01 pm 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
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and you did not noticed that they split-up?

I was focused on something different :P

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:28 am 
 

Nuke http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=37037

Same band as http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=32281 (= correct spelling)
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White_Witch
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:01 am 
 

This seems to have been overlooked. (If not sorry for posting it again.)

White_Witch wrote:
How did the band Hexx(Aus) get in here?
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=101768
There is no band contact, a two track demo with no times, and a myspace link with an invalid friend ID. All pointing towards the obvious end of the band. There is no way to get the demo and I know no-one that has it or even heard it. Im pretty sure they haven't played live.


I bet no proof of a physical release exists.

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GVOLTT
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:59 am 
 

White_Witch wrote:
This seems to have been overlooked. (If not sorry for posting it again.)

White_Witch wrote:
How did the band Hexx(Aus) get in here?
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=101768
There is no band contact, a two track demo with no times, and a myspace link with an invalid friend ID. All pointing towards the obvious end of the band. There is no way to get the demo and I know no-one that has it or even heard it. Im pretty sure they haven't played live.


I bet no proof of a physical release exists.

I found an email address at this link: http://www.unsigned.com/hexx; the band could hopefully be contacted through there, but I haven't tested the email address.
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immortalshadow666
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:08 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=20625

Not sure that this band released something
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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:19 pm 
 

immortalshadow666 wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=20625

Not sure that this band released something

Nuked.

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Myjk
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:52 pm 
 

I'm sick of seeing bands that are clearly hard rock and NOT metal and have no real benefit to an online metal encyclopedia, and other bands who aren't, who well the debate will rage on to as whether they are metal or not, certainly do warrant inclusion, if even for their contribution to metal history. case in point: Van Halen. Never thought I wouldn't see Van Halen on here and yet when you look at all the metal guitarists Eddie Van Halen influenced with his guitar style. I just don't get it.

And then there's grindcore. I agree grindcore is just "grindy hardcore" hence the name "Grindcore" and isn't metal. By that criteria there really shouldn't be ANY grindcore bands on here. There's really not much difference between Anal Cunt, Sore Throat, Blood Duster and Brutal Truth.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:09 pm 
 

Van Halen wre debated countless times. The owners have different opinion on them than you, learn to live with it. To bring it up over and over again will not help you just a bit.

I find it fascinating, that there are constantly anonymous users, who think they are knights in shining armour who bring us metal salvation by explaining who wrong were were on a world famous band. When such a popular band is missing, it is ALWAYS for a reason.

As for grindcore, it is sad, that you are not able to read a few simple written rules.

We accept the following non-metal bands in certain cases (these exceptions can be ambiguous and debatable - scroll down for details):


* Grindcore if it's close enough to death metal (ex: Carcass, Napalm Death)

Grindcore - Death/grind = OK. Noisegrind, crustcore, jazz/grind, heavy punk/hardcore, etc. = Not OK.

We do NOT accept the following (this is our decision, please don't argue this):


* Grindcore (and all its variants; noise, crust, etc) with little to zero metal influence (ex: Anal Cunt, Libido Airbag)
http://www.metal-archives.com/guidelines.php


So there is a difference between Brutal Truth and Sore Throat, if you are not able to hear it, it is entirely your personal problem.

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immortalshadow666
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:13 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=16329

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=65392

Isn't it the same band? They have the same member involved - Michel Roether... (or this guy lacked originality when he chose the names)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:50 am 
 

Delete http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=47551

Same band as http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=36526
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:55 pm 
 

immortalshadow666 wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=16329

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=65392

Isn't it the same band? They have the same member involved - Michel Roether... (or this guy lacked originality when he chose the names)


looks like so, i'll merge the two pages.

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Mieresch
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:49 pm 
 

Whatever happened to the Why was Band X rejected thread? Doesn't appear in the suggestions.

Anyway, this sounds to me like acceptable metalcore...
http://www.myspace.com/yearsspentcold

So why is it on the rejected list?

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DaveJ84
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:02 pm 
 

some minute ago i added DEVIANT PULSE
(http://www.myspace.com/deviantpulseband)

So the vocalist and bassist of this band, is the same of ANONIMA SEQUESTRI and the guitarist and drummer, is the same of HANDFUL OF HATE.

So, when needs..add links

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:10 pm 
 

DaveJ84 wrote:
some minute ago i added DEVIANT PULSE
(http://www.myspace.com/deviantpulseband)

So the vocalist and bassist of this band, is the same of ANONIMA SEQUESTRI and the guitarist and drummer, is the same of HANDFUL OF HATE.

So, when needs..add links

1. Read the rules and learn how to add links by yourself
2. When the band is accepted, you can report such things using the button on the page
3. You did not provide enough proof of physical release, so the band was rejected in the end.
4. Conclusion - read all the three sections on the main page dedicatzed to terms of use and then provide a proof of physical existence of the demo, if you have any.

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SitraAhra
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:28 pm 
 

BLACK OBSIDIAN do not have any discography added(Even in additional notes).Did some Google search and found website.Theres' kind of chaotic info about recordings.Also genre is not Power Metal(Thats for sure).maybe Groove Metal fits the best.

http://www.blackobsidian.net/

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:06 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=103632
not metal.
http://www.myspace.com/indornen
not metal at all...
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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:31 pm 
 

Wonder how this one got in here.

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:41 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=6517

This band has no discography, I noticed that while trying to update it.

I even looked up their site on the wayback machine, there is just something sayhing "studio demo out this summer!!!"...but there is no mention of an actual release, nothing to be found on google, either.

I think it should be removed.

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Nightgaunt
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:11 pm 
 

Done.
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Vulture_Helsing
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:19 am 
 

So Slipknot is exanding on the "thrash riffage" of their last album...and just when I thought metal couldn't get any more br00tal.

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BlackFlag
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:30 am 
 

Vulture_Helsing wrote:
So Slipknot is exanding on the "thrash riffage" of their last album...and just when I thought metal couldn't get any more br00tal.


So? Is this a random comment?

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