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differer
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:17 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540285592

I tried submitting this myself a while back, and it was rejected for not being metal enough. Now it's here? Not that I mind though...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:20 pm 
 

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alexlovestheredchord
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:25 am 
 

where did the suicide silence page go?

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Zorg85
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:31 am 
 

alexlovestheredchord wrote:
where did the suicide silence page go?


http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... start=4840

Check last posts

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MeavyHetal
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:23 pm 
 

Why were Oceano accepted? What I heard on their myspace page sounds like its predominately built around breakdowns, with only a few death/grind riffs here and there.

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MeavyHetal
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:30 pm 
 

BTW, here's one of the songs to show you what i mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmS2hu7lQm0

Sorry for putting you through this deathcore rubbish :P

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OzzyApu
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:08 pm 
 

Just listened to the song, MeavyHetal.

It's like on 3 minute breakdown. It's got some metal elements, that's not hard to see, but this is just a lesser Himsa, if anything, and that band barely scraps gothenburg. This just sounds like really bad metalcore.
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MeavyHetal
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:16 pm 
 

OzzyApu wrote:
Just listened to the song, MeavyHetal.

It's like on 3 minute breakdown. It's got some metal elements, that's not hard to see, but this is just a lesser Himsa, if anything, and that band barely scraps gothenburg. This just sounds like really bad metalcore.


And to think, I almost had to see them LIVE.

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dietpepsi
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:09 pm 
 

(sorry my english is bad)

In my aera , there's a band named Karnaj (http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=76681)
, they started as a punk band and then Hardcore... They said since 2005 "Demo" it's thrash metal... I never listened to that demo, but I listened to Armé du silence (who came after that) pure hardcore with some punk moment. Thrash metal my ass! Well, I hear some Soulfly influences, if there's thrash, it's occasionnal in some short moment...

go to their myspace : http://www.myspace.com/karnajqc and see for yourself

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:23 pm 
 

Deleted and blacklisted.

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Goatfangs
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:41 am 
 

Elysia is being mentioned as one of those deathcore bands that shouldn't belong on the archives.

BULLSHIT.


Keep them, they are straight up death metal with hardcore influences, their first album is excellent for those who want angry death metal with NYHC breakdowns and a fucking attitude.

WHO'S THE FUCKING FAGGOT NOW?! *best fucking breakdown ever* (in a song that condemns homophobia, calls for the castration of anti-gay religious men, etc)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:51 am 
 

dietpepsi wrote:
(sorry my english is bad)

In my aera , there's a band named Karnaj (http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=76681)
, they started as a punk band and then Hardcore... They said since 2005 "Demo" it's thrash metal... I never listened to that demo, but I listened to Armé du silence (who came after that) pure hardcore with some punk moment. Thrash metal my ass! Well, I hear some Soulfly influences, if there's thrash, it's occasionnal in some short moment...

go to their myspace : http://www.myspace.com/karnajqc and see for yourself


I've heard the 2005 demo, it is definitely thrash metal with some punk influences. A lot of tremolo picked riffs, death metal even, no breakdowns, but a hardcore type attitude through and through.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:56 pm 
 

Adriankat wrote:
Elysia is more hardcore than metal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pE6uKFwWy0
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Goatfangs
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:58 am 
 

Adriankat wrote:
Adriankat wrote:
Elysia is more hardcore than metal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pE6uKFwWy0


I've heard it, it has a lot of death metal, but also a lot of hardcore. Whether one is more predominant than the other is speculation.

What about their latest album? I haven't heard that one.

And their demos? From what I hear (From MA reviewers, I'll start tracking them down myself) they are melodic death metal.


Edit: My first impressions of 2005's Killing Grounds EP, by Elysia. It's got its fair share of melodic death metal... a lot of twin guitar harmonies death metal riffs-a-plenty, plenty of slamming brutal death riffs during the breakdowns. The song 'Massacre' is pure brutal death metal. Slam part in the middle, reminds me of Devourment but more hardcore oriented. Continues with brutal death sound though... Ending breakdown more hardcore, but still fucking heavy and fits perfectly in the brutal death metal structure of the song. Killing Grounds starts of melodeath with twin harmonized tremolo picked guitars, then becomes brutal slamming death metal... sounds like a breakdown, but not a hardcore type breakdown, reminds me of a lot of Suffocations' slow parts. Confusing part later, a much more hardcore oriented part with two-step beat and a guitar solo. Continues with breakdown with brutal death riffs mixed in. Turns melodic, but still very much melodic death or melodic black riffs at the end. Last song is up, this one is called Triumph. Brutal march attack, something about this part reminds me of Torsofuck and other goregrind bands. Breakdown then. Returns to brutal attack with riffs and all that shit! Going into two-step at 1:30 in, definitely hardcore here, but it was seemless with the brutal metal going on before. Returns to the brutal attack for a while. Now the final breakdown of the EP, it has to be an Elysia breakdown, mixing slam-death riffs with hardcore breakdowns. There are some arpeggio moments mixed in as well. Well, it got me headbanging! Hahaha.

So, Killing Season from my point of view is brutal death metal, mixed with melodic death metal, slam death metal and metalcore. Guitar solos included, two-step adds for the hardcore side. If any mod wants to hear this release, I can send a download link (Google does wonders, or search metalarea)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:40 pm 
 

http://www.myspace.com/rashamba
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=121263

Just listened to this old band, submitted by me, and it doesn't seem metal at all... Most of it is just emo whining.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:45 pm 
 

Deleted Rashamba.
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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:02 am 
 

TORNRAK removed.
not BM, ambient.

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ApocalypticxAngel
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:46 pm 
 

I been wondering why Five Finger Death Punch was on here. Personally, I find them about as metal as old Devildriver or even Demon Hunter.

And I don't think Bethrayer should be on here either. They are recognized as a Nu Metal band and not the Thrash Metal band that seems to have only been on their demo album.
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Mieresch
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:59 pm 
 

ApocalypticxAngel wrote:
I been wondering why Five Finger Death Punch was on here. Personally, I find them about as metal as old Devildriver or even Demon Hunter.

And I don't think Bethrayer should be on here either. They are recognized as a Nu Metal band and not the Thrash Metal band that seems to have only been on their demo album.

I don't know about Five Finger Death Punch since i have never heard the band, but Bethrayer will stay if that demo is really thrash. One metal release is enough

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AppleQueso
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:21 am 
 

Alright, after embarassingly posting this in the wrong thread, I'll try again.

While there's a big purge going on, might I ask about Hellyeah?
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=90772

I see absolutely nothing metal about this band at all save for Vinnie Paul's involvement. It doesn't really qualify as a side project either considering both Pantera and Damageplan were far defunct by the time this band came around.

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Goatfangs
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:52 am 
 

So Psyopus got nuked...

So what about Stranglefuck? Three of the songs on their demo are rerecorded on the Psyopus debut, one of which are on their Myspace as "The White Light" (which, to me sounds like random noise), the other two songs are Bones to Dust and possibly Mannequin (the demo version is Manikin).
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:05 pm 
 

Rules:

Quote:
The band must have a demo out - this is the minimum. If you want to add your band, and you *know* you will release something soon, simply wait until it's released before submitting it!


Just noticed that Cain's Offering was added.

Code:
Submitted by   On
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Official site says:
Release: July 22nd 2009 - Japan/Asia - BLUE COVER VERSION
Release: August 27th 2009 - Europe - RED COVER VERSION
Release: September 11th 2009 - USA/Canada - RED COVER VERSION

Just wanting to get this clear, adding it was OK because it's already 22nd in Japan?
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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:11 pm 
 

I saw on my clock that is 2009-07-22 so I put them :P
on Metal Archives is time from Canada?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYSYipouABI

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:25 pm 
 

Yes, if the release date has been reached where the said version is going to be released, it's OK.

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kampfplatz666
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:54 pm 
 

Why this band is accepted if they don't got releases, not even in the additional notes???

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=34538
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:02 pm 
 

kampfplatz666 wrote:
Why this band is accepted if they don't got releases, not even in the additional notes???

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=34538


Good question. Deleted.

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kampfplatz666
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:07 pm 
 

I don't know where to post this but here it's almost the best:

This band has the full length added, but it was never released according to the label:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540258344

From the label's page:

(Miscellaneous Statement)
There is a band out of Coloumbia called "Dark Wisdom Horde" who claim that I have released their demo "Imperial Wolves". This is a sad lie generated by the band. While I was in talks to work with them, nothing ever materialzed, there is also rumor that this band is a fraud or something which I found out about after talks between us fell apart. They uploaded the release online and claim I support it, Winter Solace does not support these "online" or "net" releases. While some bands have uploaded releases I have done after it has been released (In the case of Semai, who I am no longer in contact with) or have the material uploaded but have agreed to take it down once a proper release has happened (this was/is a ONE time exception). I usually will not release anything that has been publicy uploaded for official internet distribution by bands.
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Scrabsy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:26 pm 
 

ApocalypticxAngel wrote:
I been wondering why Five Finger Death Punch was on here. Personally, I find them about as metal as old Devildriver or even Demon Hunter.


Same, from what I've heard they just sound like Slipknot collided with Nickelback.

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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:18 am 
 

Ara'kus (Submitted by DeadHead487) - Progressive Melodic Death/Black Metal from United States of America (Seattle, Washington)
Removed.

"Hello,

My name is Randy Haines, I am the guitarist and public relations representative for ArA'KuS. I just came across your entry for our band and would like to let you know that Susan Thieme is no longer a member of the band. We are currently using a guest keyboard player named Rachel Brunson.

The album Aeterno Elementum is not considered a demo and has not yet been released. The entire album currently resides on the hard drive of the main computer at CG&S Studios in Marysville, WA (back-up copies in two locations) and a release date has not yet been set.

We are not with PRS Records. Currently we are not under contract with any label and we have no plans to sign with anyone in the foreseeable future.

The picture on your site is outdated, I know that you said to upload to imageshack, but it may be easier if you would like to choose from these: http://oddology.net/eyes.html (this is my personal website, as the ArA'KuS site is down for updates). We are hoping to have photo shoot in the near future and can provide better images if you desire.

Thank you for your help with these updates. If you have any questions, or if I can be of any assistance, feel free to e-mail me at [email protected]

Amiably,

Randy Haines
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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:30 pm 
 

I've deleted Stranglefuck, first incarnation of Psyopus.

Edit: Nâd are gone, ambient stuff.

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Carter
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:10 pm 
 

Rise of Caligula are just noisy hardcore with some metal influence. They're not "Death/Thrash Metal".

http://www.myspace.com/riseofcaligula

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:26 pm 
 

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540287012
MP3 band?
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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:55 pm 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540287012
MP3 band?

Indeed, looks like. I approved the band but I didn't see that the album was made available as net-release. The "Two-Part album available now" and the fact that the full tracklisting was in the submission made me think that the submitter had a physical copy.
Before deleting, could you send them a mail for me, please? Thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:09 am 
 

Deleted.

"I talk to gary brents who is behind this project. he just told me yesterday that they did not release hard copies because Gary has absolutely no money to do so, they released it all strictly as internet release only until Gary gets enough money to release a hard copy"
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termitejr
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:10 am 
 

funny that psyopus have been on archives for years and years but now that the metalcore scene has begun to turn more towards noise/tech and embrace bands like psyopus that they get removed...

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http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540275617
MP3 band?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:10 pm 
 

termitejr wrote:
funny that psyopus have been on archives for years and years but now that the metalcore scene has begun to turn more towards noise/tech and embrace bands like psyopus that they get removed...


Yeah, that's real funny.

What's your point?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:10 pm 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540275617
MP3 band?


It looks like it. That new "album" looks suspect too. I'm going to pm Lunar Strain. It looks like he added an incomplete album.

I'll do some more investigation and then delete the band, if necessary.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:38 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=74153
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=127717

Two entries for one band. I suggest removing the newer one as it's less detailed than the older one. The only link from the newer entry has to be moved, not deleted, however.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:17 pm 
 

I've been submitting bands here for a few years now, and it was usually only in the beginning that I really had any points of contention...before I really understood how things worked...however, I have a slight problem now.

Futuresynner has submitted Lee Hyun Suk and has had it accepted:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540287205

But, I've tried for years to submit this artist, even sending full albums (including the one that Futuresynner used to get him in, his most metal album) and have had them all rejected by several mods. I've sent albums to mods for listening, and it's always been rejected...because not only does he do metal/shred, but he also has A LOT of pop ballads and pop songs in his albums. He's known more for those songs than his metal ones.

So my question is, what did Futuresynner do that I didn't? He didn't even include correct/complete information. Most of his submission is either incorrect, or missing a lot of information, plus he used one of the albums that I used (i.e. ripped, and uploaded for evaluation) to get this submission in.

I'm happy that the artist is here, but I must wonder what changed after these years? What did Futuresynner provide that I didn't, apart from incorrect information?

I'm curious.

Edit: Also, if you're going to keep him here, make sure to add "Pop Rock/Ballad" to his genre, because he has some albums that are completely of that variety.
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