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Doomsday
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:47 pm 
 

TheGrimWombat wrote:
I've been submitting bands here for a few years now, and it was usually only in the beginning that I really had any points of contention...before I really understood how things worked...however, I have a slight problem now.

Futuresynner has submitted Lee Hyun Suk and has had it accepted:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540287205

But, I've tried for years to submit this artist, even sending full albums (including the one that Futuresynner used to get him in, his most metal album) and have had them all rejected by several mods. I've sent albums to mods for listening, and it's always been rejected...because not only does he do metal/shred, but he also has A LOT of pop ballads and pop songs in his albums. He's known more for those songs than his metal ones.

So my question is, what did Futuresynner do that I didn't? He didn't even include correct/complete information. Most of his submission is either incorrect, or missing a lot of information, plus he used one of the albums that I used (i.e. ripped, and uploaded for evaluation) to get this submission in.

I'm happy that the artist is here, but I must wonder what changed after these years? What did Futuresynner provide that I didn't, apart from incorrect information?

I'm curious.

Edit: Also, if you're going to keep him here, make sure to add "Pop Rock/Ballad" to his genre, because he has some albums that are completely of that variety.


I accepted it based on a review I now noticed Futuresynner himself wrote for metalpage.de. Always thought that site legit and knowing what the hell they talk about. Had no idea the artist in question had such a history of past rejections and if what you say is true then perhaps I made a mistake and in that case mea culpa.

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:14 pm 
 

I can provide you with the album in question, if you really want...I've had it rejected several times based on that album. It's one of his "most metal" if not his most metal album. He still plays shred-like music, as he is a virtuostic player, but many of his songs are just pop rock or ballads. He does collaborations with pop singers and the like as well.

The first album is about 50/50 metal and not metal. I've had it rejected by several mods and had many discussions about his inclusion, as he is an important figure, but I can see why he's been rejected so many times. If you would like to hear the album, just let me know. I've mostly talked with Witcher about the subject, and I trust his judgement on such an artist. It likely does not belong.
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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:54 am 
 

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540287418
"This band was actually a joke made by the webzine 'Guts of darkness'."
Did this band really exist?

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:02 am 
 

No, it was a joke. It even says in big on the cover "Poisson d'Avril", meaning "April Fool's Joke". It was all made up.


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OzzyApu
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:20 am 
 

All right, since I didn't want to make a new thread about it, I'll just post it here. The band X-Japan were known as X for a time before changing their name. However, their band page still has them under both names. Shouldn't this site separate the two? One page for them as band "X" and the other as "X-Japan?"

Every other band that undergoes a name change gets this treatment, so why are these guys accepted as one?
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Helvede
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:06 pm 
 

Fanfarigoule wrote:
No, it was a joke. It even says in big on the cover "Poisson d'Avril", meaning "April Fool's Joke". It was all made up.


Haha, allright, my French is not that good! I was fooled!

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Third_of_the_Storms
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:26 pm 
 

This is from the Flittering topic in metal discussion:

Seto wrote:
This is fake, I'm 99.9% sure.

I did a whois history on flittering.org - one of the addresses given on Flittering MA page - and got the following.

Quote:
Domain: flittering.org - Domain History
Cache Date: 2008-06-03
Registrar:
Registrant Search: Click on an email address we found in this whois record
to see which other domains the registrant is associated with:
[email protected]

Domain ID:D152881284-LROR
Domain Name:FLITTERING.ORG
Created On:02-Jun-2008 18:53:20 UTC
Last Updated On:02-Jun-2008 18:53:23 UTC
Expiration Date:02-Jun-2009 18:53:20 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:ADDPERIOD
Registrant ID:GODA-048542396
Registrant Name:[REMOVED]
Registrant Organization:huldraslaat
Registrant Street1: [REMOVED]
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:[REMOVED]
Registrant State/Province:California
Registrant Postal Code:91042
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:[REMOVED]
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:GODA-248542396
Admin Name:[REMOVED]
Admin Organization:huldraslaat
Admin Street1:[REMOVED]
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:[REMOVED]
Admin State/Province:California
Admin Postal Code:91042
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:[REMOVED]
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:GODA-148542396
Tech Name:[REMOVED]
Tech Organization:huldraslaat
Tech Street1:[REMOVED]
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:[REMOVED]
Tech State/Province:California
Tech Postal Code:91042
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:[REMOVED]
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:NS45.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server:NS46.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:


Removed all personal details, for obvious reasons. Pertinent bits in red.

This was created a week before Flittering were submitted to MA. Notice the "Admin Organization": Hudraslaat, which is apparently the label Flittering are on. That's not the most important bit, though.

The e-mail. CB_WH, evidently inundated with messages to his old e-mail, has recently changed his profile e-mail on here. Bit of a mistake.

Image

You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to notice CB_WH - and the guy who registered flittering.org - have the same e-mail. Ergo, they are the same guy.

Hard to conclude that this is anything other than a hoax.

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CatBlack_WizardsHat
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:56 pm 
 

I ran the same search on the band and label and thats the only contact info I have for the huldra label, so I placed it on my acct here to be an ass, bad choice I know (I did it yesterday after I read the forum I'm not sure why besides just wanting to see if anyone would notice, I regret it now but I couldn't believe all the bitching & naysayers)
It's a real demo from a real band like a million other demo releases from the death, doom, black explosion- forgotten and known by a few people
I have tons of local one time demos from bands that ain't on here and to be honest I'm worried about submitting anymore, isn't this site supposed to be a place to rekindle those lost bands aswell?
I had previous contact with the "label" (if you can call it that) who was gonna re release it ...so there are OTHERS around the world like the reviewer who reviewed it for heaven sake!!!
if all the countless myspace/mp3 bands can be here, why not a one off demo band from 93??
-wiz

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Corimngul
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:25 am 
 

CatBlack_WizardsHat wrote:
if all the countless myspace/mp3 bands can be here, why not a one off demo band from 93??
-wiz


Actually they cannot, if there is not convincing proof that there is a physical release. Similarly there is so far not much pointing in that direction in this case - not one trade list, not one zine mention, not one photo... Really, like Derigin said in the other thread, could you post a photo of the cassette and cover? If you are unable to, I'm sure someone at your work has a digital camera or a camera phone.
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~Guest 152635
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:27 am 
 

Dark Cove: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=129605

I submitted this band a while back when I was kinda new. I re-listened to the only song they have for download and it is not really black metal. http://www.geocities.com/dark_cove/mp3s/DOOM.mp3

I also ordered the cd they have for sale. I emailed them before paying for it it and they said it was still available so they knew I was clicking the paypal button. I have never received the cd or any replies to my emails concerning that so the release has a chance of not existing.

Forgotten Blaze: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540265847

Another band I submitted when I was still somewhat new. I wasn't sure if this: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =128683520 would have been enough proof or not so I submitted anyways. I now know it is not considered a physical release so it should be deleted. "Select few good friends will have a copy mailed directly to them, otherwise we will have the mp3s sent to you electronically. "

Sorry for the inconvenience


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CrownOvHorns
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:25 am 
 

Why is Carnifex still here? They're pretty much a watered down Suicide Silence. Which is pretty much the worst of the worst.

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Snowgrave
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:46 am 
 

Ugh. I submitted Seven Nautical Miles last year and it was rejected for not being metal. Why accepted now? :(

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Goatfangs
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:56 pm 
 

If there was one band that should be removed and blacklisted out of principle, it is this band: http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540265592

Because of the shit this band pulled, they have lowered themselves to the bottom of the barrel. WAY below emo and metalcore. They killed Middian.

I doubt that is how this site works, and since they released an album in 1996, they probably are metal enough to be on here. However, I am very curious to hear what this album sounds like, if it is indeed metal... and if not, KILL IT WITH FIRE!
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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:03 am 
 

The tracks on MySpace are definitely metal enough.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:46 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540288032
MP3 band? Demo is for download and I see no advertisement for a 'real' CD
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Mieresch
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:14 pm 
 

I have just realised that some japanese bands features on the site have music composed by someone called ZUN. I did some research and i found that ZUN is a video game composer, and the bands are actually video game cover bands.

See here, info about ZUN:
http://vgmdb.net/artist/1

Here are a few ZUN cover bands:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540281741
Proof that their music was composed by ZUN:
http://vgmdb.net/album/14540

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540288243
Proof that music was composed by ZUN:
http://www.aod666.com/dream.html

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540283349
Proof that music was composed by ZUN:
http://syncarts.jp/sp/sacd5022/index.html

I'll get back to this, once i have time to find more bands.

If you see any band with the composer called ZUN, please report it.

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:33 am 
 

Snowgrave wrote:
Ugh. I submitted Seven Nautical Miles last year and it was rejected for not being metal. Why accepted now? :(

I know it might seem unfair but mods have different standards on borderline bands.

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Doomsday
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:58 am 
 

Snowgrave wrote:
Ugh. I submitted Seven Nautical Miles last year and it was rejected for not being metal. Why accepted now? :(

I have had this happen to me a dozen times over in the past. But life goes on, right?

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darkk_winter
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:56 am 
 

with pictures you mean band logo and photo only?

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:17 am 
 

No, not at all. I meant pictures of the physical release. Like this:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3205/dsc04008o.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1239/dsc04010f.jpg

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:59 pm 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540288032
MP3 band? Demo is for download and I see no advertisement for a 'real' CD


I talked to the band themselves.

Their response was:

I have the real cd's as well, would you like to buy one? It's $3.
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Zorg85
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:25 am 
 

Are you sure Bazooka is really metal?

http://www.strillostrano.com/bands/metal80/bazooka.htm

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Shadespawn
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:11 pm 
 

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540286967

Midi drums and bass, both sound very similar to "Guitar Pro" sounds. The band itself has very little to do with "brutal death metal" or anything metal related. Check it out.

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MercyfulSatyr
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:26 pm 
 

Yorkshire Manor:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=100580
http://www.myspace.com/yorkshiremanor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivp53X3bA1k

Their songs are just Seth Putnam-styled screaming mixed with short bursts of chugging and programmed effects. There are also some pornogrind burps. The band sounds like WCWBT, a band that has been nuked. Not only that, its genre tag is ridiculously off.

A bit of a warning - the YouTube video is NOT for the easily disturbed.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:54 pm 
 

Thank you, MS, I have been meaning to post that band in this thread for a while now, but never really got around to doing so. They definitely don't belong on the site.
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:28 am 
 

Athlos (Grc)
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540287588
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7249/unbenannteml.png
release out October
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:41 am 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:


http://www.metal-integral.com/chronique ... ue_ID=1208

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:40 am 
 

Zorg85 wrote:

So? A review site ... they got a promo. I do not get your point.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:03 pm 
 

Cuntja
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=26627

This band is highly suspicious. The page insists that the demo Verimaa was spread in mp3 format. Yesterday I contacted the owner of theundergroundcollection.com, in whose trade list that demo appears. He replied to me, saying that he only had mp3 in hand, but was nonetheless not sure whether CD-Rs existed.

Anyone knew some useful information?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:00 pm 
 

Dreaming In Oceans

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=119399

Personally I love this band but imo there not metal and are best desribed as a hardcore band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elc5HNj3Q-c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbW5fm_-9fQ

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:40 am 
 

this band should be discussed:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=51498

label (wayback machine)
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www ... news_2.htm

Quote:
Skuggon "Ett möte med det förgångna" 7"inch has been launched. Swedish grim act with some famous names in it however the names will never be mentioned.


so far so good...

http://web.archive.org/web/200701030106 ... eps001.htm

the release is not mentioned in the release list for 7"
and also not in the mail-order list of the wen entry:
http://web.archive.org/web/200502151244 ... lorder.zip

looks a bit suspicious.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:18 pm 
 

Hi, about this band Satanus (Irl) it was accepted based on some informations posted in the irishrock.org website. I don't know if this is a trusted source of informations, anyway the style is mentioned as heavy metal although in the band's bio they say that the band was inspired by Earache Records in general and Napalm Death in particular. I don't see how can a band with such inspirations play heavy metal, more possibly a grindcore band. Anyway the site has also some weird style desciptions like pop metal for example I don't see if he can be a trusted site for submissions.
Also about the other band "Witches Brew" accepted based on the informations from this site I think it should be deleted too just read the bio.


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ralfman
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:21 pm 
 

Wrath of Deathrash

Unfortunatly i must say that i think this band doen't exist...Unfortunatly, cause it's registered as being a Portuguese one :) ...

When going through Goggle, 3 types of results appear;

Thrash Metal From brasil with a Japanese Label (as the first 3 results indicate)
Portuguese Thrash Metal
and finally ;
Compilation Tape made in japan

To me the way it is registered as Being a Portuguese band is the least probable to be true (not that i am omniscient or have all knowledge but , and it looks like a 90´s demo, never heard or read such name in all my fanzines,magazines, tapes, from friends, etc, etc in my long metal years)
Besides the fact of being a japanese!!!???!!! label releasing it...
na... Spanish perhaps but Japanese?... Dont think so.

Being a Brasilian Band? , Well perhaps and that may be more certain.

But to me the most logical as to this tape, being is the 3rd result.
A compilation tape. And why i say this , 'cause it has 8 tracks , being the last 2 with the same name!
Heres a link to some info on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Wrath-of-Deathrash-d ... .m20.l1116

Again , if you google it , those 3 results will appear. A Tape with 8 tracks (not 7) , being the last two with the same name.
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:06 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=42587
http://www.myspace.com/obstruo
do they really have a release out? There is some announced but nothing more.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:26 am 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=42587
http://www.myspace.com/obstruo
do they really have a release out? There is some announced but nothing more.

I send them message.
I wait a week.

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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:34 am 
 

ralfman wrote:
Wrath of Deathrash


7th result from google :
"eBay.be: Wrath of Deathrash - Compilation Tape"
I also almost submit VA as a band, few times xP

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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:35 pm 
 

Darkness Enshroud
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=31976
Do you know something about them?
I heard that on demos they played Dark Ambient with Black Metal vocals and later on albums it was Dark Ambient/Industrial.
It's here by "side project" rule?
Or it's metal enought?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:41 pm 
 

Piotr_Bojka wrote:
Darkness Enshroud
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=31976
Do you know something about them?
I heard that on demos they played Dark Ambient with Black Metal vocals and later on albums it was Dark Ambient/Industrial.
It's here by "side project" rule?
Or it's metal enought?

Hmm...it looks like the side-project rule. As far as I know, Moribund Records has worldwide distribution.
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Athlos (Grc) should be remove then since apparently the album will not be out before october

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PiotrB
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Zorg85 wrote:
Athlos (Grc) should be remove then since apparently the album will not be out before october

this band was in queue long time...
you should flagged them

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