You misunderstood me. This is not the band's label, it was sold by a German journalist. Is it therefore acceptable?

Indeed, newly accepted bands like these bother me:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=105980
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=106016

"newly accepted bands bother me" blablabla

tell me why NWOBHM should be reserved for UK bands only?

I'm speechless.

Because it's not a genre. NWOBHM was a scene of early heavy metal bands from the UK, hence the N.W.O. British! Heavy Metal.

Why should bands from other countries be part of something that had nothing to do with them. In that case, bands like Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Motorhead, Budgie (and every other active metal band around 1980) would be NWOBHM too, just because they released albums in the period and (in the case of mentioned bands) even benefited from the scene.

Next to that, the NWOBHM ended in 1986 (1979-1983 is the core, but it's actually spread between 1977-1986) and the band in the first link "Almost Human (Aus)" released their EP in 1987.

I just received a promo copy of the new The Great Deceiver album (Life is Wasted On The Living), and the band has totally switch from nu-metal to melodic death metal/death metal with industrial influences. They can now be added onto the site based on this release, in my opinion.

I'd like to ask the mods to give a few of their newer tracks a listen and decide if this is passable for the site. Here's a link to some songs on a myspace. The songs are titled Home to Oblivion, Running with Scissors: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =233416268

The rest of the CD is right on that sound. I have all the stuff filled out, and am awaiting mod consent.

NWOBHM ended in 1986 ?

Yes, bands like Deep Switch, whose first release was in 1986, are generally still regarded as NWOBHM.

It's like saying ...Thrash Metal actually started with Stained Class.

What do you say about bands like Mournblade, Mammoth, Horse London, Rhabstallion, Lyadrive....that released albums between 1988-1998.. ? they are still NWOBHM...even Metalucifer from Japan plays NWOBHM-styled Heavy Metal or some early swedish bands like Zone Zero, Behemoth.

Mammoth arent' NWOBHM. They are not regarded as such either, they're more hard/heavy rock anyway. Lyadrive released their first single in 1984. Mournblade released their first in 1985. Rhabstallion even released their first demo in 1980. Only Horse London released their first EP in 1989 and is sometimes still considered as NWOBHM. I do not know why this is. But NWOBHM bands that have releases after 1986 are part of the NWOBHM because of their earlier releases.

Metalucifer doesn't play NWOBHM-styled heavy metal, they play heavy metal and (probably) were influenced by bands that were part of the NWOBHM, and that's only because the NWOBHM was famous at the time and Japan has always loved the scene. And all early 80s metal bands sound NWOBHM, because they the early 80s was the big dawn of heavy metal all over the world. NWOBHM is such a big scene that all sorts of (early) heavy metal types are represented and thus it's only obvious that bands like the Swedish ones you mentioned sound like it...

I'm against labelling all other countries than UK, NWOBHM.
Check : Behemoth (SWE) and EF Band. and the australian bands, they should be edited.

Metalucifer is not an 80s band as you might think , and NWOBHM never ended as a genre, maybe as a movement, because most of the bands after '86 and the new bands played and took it as a genre.
Strikelight from Greece also is a NWOBHM devoted band and to early swedish steel!

I know Metalucifer isn't from the 80s. But NWOBHM was never genre and isn't. Strikelight are also a normal Heavy Metal band that just stays close to the feeling of the early 80s bands, and specifically the NWOBHM(but that does not make a new genre).

I'm also clueless as to why Behemoth is seen as NWOBHM, but the EF Band was at some times based in the UK and had various British members(and they're on MFM too). So they should stay. Nightmare (Fra) is also credited as NWOBHM, but as far as I know that's only because they were signed to Ebony(So they should be edited). I don't think they were ever based in the UK like Horsepower (originally from the US, who do belong on the list because their releases are from the period they were based in the UK).

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=24383 from US...

and i didn't say that they make a new genre ....

They have nothing to do with the NWOBHM, they should be edited.

I know early French bands that sound more like them than most NWOBHM bands... They just play Heavy/Speed metal like mentioned on their profile...

Warning were NWOBHM styled...Dum Dum Bullet - Priest-style


Trust ? Attentat Rock ? to those you are referring ?

Warning weren't NWOBHM styled, they just got their influences from the same sources as most of the NWOBHM bands. Get it.

Dum Dum Bullet were influenced by Priest yes, but so were Desolation Angels and Reincarnate to name a few, so does that make them NWOBHM according to your views? So useless, not from UK and their first METAL(-ish) release between 1977-1986, not NWOBHM.

Both songs sound like that modern hardcore/metalcore, which we usually reject, I do not see much death metal in it, certain The Haunted references maybe, but real death or thrash metal?

You can get an opinion from more mods, of course.

The song from Terra Incognito sounds much closer to real metal to me, interestingly, more brutal riffing to it.

Well, I meant it was metal based on a melodic death base more than anything. And it's certainly a lot more metal than their older stuff.

I agree with Witcher about The Great Deceiver.

Destructive Explosion of Anal Garland - Grindcore
http://www.myspace.com/destructiveexplosion
to core for MA ?

My opinion is null and void.

I still don't think I get it. Now it sounds to me like some cheap bootleg.

This sounds to me like acceptable death/grind mix. Shitty production values of course, but if one pays attention to the slower parts, one can hear clearly that more groovy riffing typical for modern death. Most of the death/grind hybrid have some hc in them, otherwise it would be pure death metal and not a hybrid with a genre derived from hardcore. It is not really noisegrind or pure hc/grind/Crust.

Compare it with Dead Infection - they are several classes better musicians, but play similar mix of fast, brutal, hardcore tinged parts, which come close to both death metal and old school hc and midtempo groovy death parts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKOhHBO9M0A

Of course, most myspace and underground grind does not reach the musical or production standard of D.I., comes closer to noise in delivery and still is submitted by many people as the next "goregrind" discovery....

From the current line-up section of Carcass page:

{\link Jeff Walker} - Vocals/Bass ({\link Electro Hippies}, ex-{\link Blackstar}, {\link Brujeria}, Jeff Walker und Die Fluffers)
Bill Steer - Guitars/Vocals (ex-{\link Napalm Death}, Firebird)
Carlo Regadas - Guitars (ex-{\link Blackstar}, ex-{\link Devoid (UK)})
Ken Owen - Drums (ex-{\link Blackstar})

Carcass has been rehearsing with the following linrup:
Michael Amott - Guitars ({\link Arch Enemy}, {\link Spiritual Beggars}, ex-{\link Carnage (Swe)}, ex-{\link Candlemass}, ex-{\link Armageddon (Swe)})
{\link Jeff Walker} - Vocals/Bass ({\link Electro Hippies}, ex-{\link Blackstar}, {\link Brujeria}, Jeff Walker und Die Fluffers)
Bill Steer - Guitars/Vocals (ex-{\link Napalm Death}, Firebird)
Daniel Erlandsson - Drums ({\link Arch Enemy}).
Mike Amott has expressed that the band would hope Ken Owen would be able to play a few songs at potential shows.

Nice, isn't it. The saddest thing is, that such people think they are doing a great service for the page. The info about a reunion could be potentially a part of the band's bio, but such update is more than counterproductive.


"Mike Amott has expressed that the band would hope Ken Owen would be able to play a few songs at potential shows." Especially this - I see a future submissions, when the members of myspace bedroom bands express their hopes that they will get a third member for live drumming in the future in the line-up section...it will be mostly wishful thinking, however.

He is a journalist and runs/ran(?) in his free time a label. There is an address mentioned of both the band and the label. Perhaps he gotin contact with the band through his profession as a journalist for a metal magazine; who knows. But he was selling(?) or better said promoting the band by giving out promos, but he is not involved in the band in any way.

Then it's a fan made bootleg that has little more merit than that Bee Gees compilation CD-R I did and gave my dad on his birthday.

huh? why is it now a bootleg?
There are two tracks in the promo:
the first is taken from the first demo.
the second appears on the second demo which is released one year after the promo. On the promo this track is also in a different version than the later released one.
So this is no compilation and no fan-bootleg... it was done with permission from the band.

I would like to ask moderators opinion about band JERUSALEM,because this band is from 70s.JERUSALEM released just one S/T LP in 1972 and their music sounded really heavy at that time.Its amost the same as lets say SIR LORD BALTIMORE,NIGHT SUN and some other early bands.I know that bands that sounds like SABBS are accepted here,like Proto-Doom. Here You'll find some soun samples.Opinions?

http://www.myspace.com/jerusalemheavy72

Also I can upload the full LP on Rapidshare.

http://rapidshare.com/files/46626430/El ... s.rar.html

Is this acceptable? For me it's Metal enough (50:50), but I'd like to have a mod opinion since this is band released two Hard/Prog. Rock albums in the 70s and could be a problematic submission.

Pretty cool stuff, Progressive metal as far as I'm concerned. I don't see why this should be rejected. But I ain't no mod.

Although the last three songs lean a bit more to the hardrock side, it definitely is metal enough. And their previous albums should not be held against them, that rule is mainly designed to rule out bands with just a small fraction of metal during their career. Full-lengths are per definition more than a small fraction.

Yes, submit it, one metal album is enough, you do not have to worry about their old hard rock style.

Artist: Клiч
carrying on the discussion from here:
http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... 974#641974

I have listened to the 2006 album and the songs have a good deal of metal. The question remains whether they have a physical release out.

Hi
Sorry to bother but i´ll like an opinion about this band´s genre;
http://www.myspace.com/sinhome

Acceptable or nu-metal...?

THanks
Cheers

The heavy parts sound like metalcore/groove, and the soft parts sound like nu-metal. There are some metal parts, but I'm not sure with the overall aesthetic.

Not even gonna try to guess if this is acceptable, although personally I don't see why you want more Nu-metal influenced crap here.

Hails metalheads, i don't know if its appropiate to post it here, but i have seen some similar posts here. Sorry if its innapropiated
I want you to hear this band from my country, its name is B'Rock (better known as Broncco)
http://www.esnips.com/web/BROCK-BronccodeElSalvador
Its classified simply as Rock, but i think it has a notable heavy metal influence
What do you think? Does it Belong?

P.D. I haven't post the downloading link because the file is 100 MB, i dont want to make you loose more time.
Thanks

Too much nu-metal.

This is heavy metal, go ahead and submit it.

I guess you´re an expert in Nu-Metal, right?
Well, i´m not! sinse i only know the Korns, Limbiscuits,Linkinparks,SOAD from radio and TV.
I guess the people responsible for this site don´t want bands like Earthtone9, The Great Deceiver , Skinlab and others ´cause they are considered nu-metal , then , and i´m not afraid to say it , i like nu-metal.

I´m an open minded guy , and i do enjoy many bands not present here , such , Killing Joke , Q.O.T.S.A. , AC/DC, Led Zeppelin , just to state a couple. But most of all i´m a real manic about the 90´s Death metal.

...but does the korns,linkinparks even deserve the METAL tag? to me they don´t.